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8th Oct '17 5:50:30 AM Gosicrystal
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* The ''Film/SuperMarioBros'' movie: It had plumbers, mushrooms (sorta), and a dinosaur, but other than that had [[InNameOnly nothing to do with the]] [[SuperMarioBros games]]. The bob-omb was its selling point.

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* The ''Film/SuperMarioBros'' movie: It had plumbers, mushrooms (sorta), and a dinosaur, but other than that had [[InNameOnly nothing to do do]] with the]] [[SuperMarioBros [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros the games]]. The bob-omb was its selling point.
9th Sep '17 1:35:12 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Similarly, Marvel's [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate series]] is an attempt to bring casual and new fans into the fold by recreating their most popular works (Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}, Comicbook/XMen, ComicBook/FantasticFour, and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'') from the ground up. Although almost all villains and heroes are extremely familiar, they've all received major make-overs and have had their [[BackStory backstories]] {{retool}}ed and modernized. In one of their most controversial points, they've removed Peter Parker's job as a photojournalist and made him a webjockey instead.

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* Similarly, Marvel's [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate series]] is an attempt to bring casual and new fans into the fold by recreating their most popular works (Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}, (Comicbook/SpiderMan, Comicbook/XMen, ComicBook/FantasticFour, and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'') from the ground up. Although almost all villains and heroes are extremely familiar, they've all received major make-overs and have had their [[BackStory backstories]] {{retool}}ed and modernized. In one of their most controversial points, they've removed Peter Parker's job as a photojournalist and made him a webjockey instead.
11th May '17 11:05:19 PM Kadorhal
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* Fanboys and regular moviegoers alike sure seem to enjoy ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. Note that regular folks reacted to ''Film/BatmanBegins'' being made with "Batman? With the rubber nipples and terrible, campy villains? Why are you going back to that again?" and fanboys reacted to CreatorHeathLedger being cast as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' with "That Film/{{Brokeback|Mountain}} prettyboy as the Joker? This is gonna SUCK!". Note further that both sides have since been forced to eat their own words in dramatic fashion.

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* Fanboys and regular moviegoers alike sure seem to enjoy ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. Note that regular folks reacted to ''Film/BatmanBegins'' being made with "Batman? With the rubber nipples and terrible, campy villains? Why are you going back to that again?" and fanboys reacted to CreatorHeathLedger Creator/HeathLedger being cast as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' with "That Film/{{Brokeback|Mountain}} prettyboy as the Joker? This is gonna SUCK!". Note further that both sides have since been forced to eat their own words in dramatic fashion.
11th May '17 11:04:44 PM Kadorhal
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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' was deliberately set far away from anything related to the first two installments to allow a new team the freedom to operate without necessarily being bound by canon. This, combined with the jump to real-time and a first-person/over the shoulder view like ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', completely alienated much of the existing fanbase. Bethesda realized that they weren't going to get that set of the fans on board and didn't worry about it too much, playing to their strengths and going with the basic theme of a somewhat-farcical post-nuclear setting based on an exaggeration of TheFifties, while taking a few set-pieces like the Brotherhood of Steel, ghouls and super-mutants and using them as they chose. The game is immensely LoveItOrHateIt in the ''VideoGame//{{Fallout}}'' fandom, but made exactly the profits you'd expect from a AAA title by Bethesda.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' was deliberately set far away from anything related to the first two installments to allow a new team the freedom to operate without necessarily being bound by canon. This, combined with the jump to real-time and a first-person/over the shoulder view like ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', completely alienated much of the existing fanbase. Bethesda realized that they weren't going to get that set of the fans on board and didn't worry about it too much, playing to their strengths and going with the basic theme of a somewhat-farcical post-nuclear setting based on an exaggeration of TheFifties, while taking a few set-pieces like the Brotherhood of Steel, ghouls and super-mutants and using them as they chose. The game is immensely LoveItOrHateIt in the ''VideoGame//{{Fallout}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fandom, but made exactly the profits you'd expect from a AAA title by Bethesda.
11th May '17 11:00:49 PM Kadorhal
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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' was deliberately set far away from anything related to the first two installments to allow a new team the freedom to operate without necessarily being bound by canon. This, combined with the jump to real-time and a first-person/over the shoulder view like the Elder Scrolls, completely alienated much of the existing fanbase. Bethesda realized that they weren't going to get that set of the fans on board and didn't worry about it too much, playing to their strengths and going with the basic theme of a somewhat-farcical post-nuclear setting based on an exaggeration of TheFifties, while taking a few set-pieces like the Brotherhood of Steel, ghouls and super-mutants and using them as they chose. The game is immensely LoveItOrHateIt in the ''Franchise/{{Fallout}}'' fandom, but made exactly the profits you'd expect from a AAA title by Bethesda.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' was deliberately set far away from anything related to the first two installments to allow a new team the freedom to operate without necessarily being bound by canon. This, combined with the jump to real-time and a first-person/over the shoulder view like the Elder Scrolls, ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', completely alienated much of the existing fanbase. Bethesda realized that they weren't going to get that set of the fans on board and didn't worry about it too much, playing to their strengths and going with the basic theme of a somewhat-farcical post-nuclear setting based on an exaggeration of TheFifties, while taking a few set-pieces like the Brotherhood of Steel, ghouls and super-mutants and using them as they chose. The game is immensely LoveItOrHateIt in the ''Franchise/{{Fallout}}'' ''VideoGame//{{Fallout}}'' fandom, but made exactly the profits you'd expect from a AAA title by Bethesda.



* The ''IronMan'' [[Film/IronMan movie]] is another strong example of this process done successfully.
* Fanboys and regular moviegoers alike sure seem to be enjoying Film/TheDarkKnightSaga. Note that regular folks reacted to ''Film/BatmanBegins'' being made with "Batman? With the rubber nipples and terrible, campy villains? Why are you going back to that again?" and fanboys reacted to Heath Ledger being cast as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' with "That [[BrokebackMountain Brokeback]] prettyboy as the Joker? This is gonna SUCK!". Note further that both sides have since been forced to eat their own words in dramatic fashion.
* The ''MortalKombat'' [[Film/MortalKombat movie]] was enjoyed by the fans for being a faithful adaptation and moviegoers and critics enjoyed it for being a coherent action movie.

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* The ''IronMan'' ''ComicBook/IronMan'' [[Film/IronMan movie]] is another strong example of this process done successfully.
* Fanboys and regular moviegoers alike sure seem to be enjoying Film/TheDarkKnightSaga. enjoy ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. Note that regular folks reacted to ''Film/BatmanBegins'' being made with "Batman? With the rubber nipples and terrible, campy villains? Why are you going back to that again?" and fanboys reacted to Heath Ledger CreatorHeathLedger being cast as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' with "That [[BrokebackMountain Brokeback]] Film/{{Brokeback|Mountain}} prettyboy as the Joker? This is gonna SUCK!". Note further that both sides have since been forced to eat their own words in dramatic fashion.
* The ''MortalKombat'' ''Franchise/MortalKombat'' [[Film/MortalKombat movie]] was enjoyed by the fans for being a faithful adaptation and moviegoers and critics enjoyed it for being a coherent action movie.



* ''MagicTheGathering'', as of late. The power-creep has been pretty damn noticeable lately, which makes older players cringe, and the newer ''Franchise/YuGiOh''-influenced generation squeal; however, the bar-none best cards are still those from well over 10 years ago, and the costs of these cards, whether the originals or in special reprint sets & decks, can easily run 40 bucks for a playset (4), making "veteran" formats like Legacy a nightmare for newer players to compete in. Let's just say that Magic is "balanced" in that [[UnpleasableFanbase it manages to delight and piss off both sides equally]].

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* ''MagicTheGathering'', ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', as of late. The power-creep has been pretty damn noticeable lately, which makes older players cringe, and the newer ''Franchise/YuGiOh''-influenced generation squeal; however, the bar-none best cards are still those from well over 10 years ago, and the costs of these cards, whether the originals or in special reprint sets & decks, can easily run 40 bucks for a playset (4), making "veteran" formats like Legacy a nightmare for newer players to compete in. Let's just say that Magic is "balanced" in that [[UnpleasableFanbase it manages to delight and piss off both sides equally]].



* ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' was intentionally made to bridge the gap between the Fallout old guard and new blood, starting by bringing in [[Creator/ObsidianEntertainment one of the successor studios of Black Isle]] to do the game back on the West Coast, but doing it with the updated engine and SPECIAL system from ''3'' and continuing to innovate in storytelling and setting lore. The result was a game that both old-school ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' purists and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' fans agree is an excellent entry in the series.

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* ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' was intentionally made to bridge the gap between the Fallout ''Fallout'' old guard and new blood, starting by bringing in [[Creator/ObsidianEntertainment one of the successor studios of the series' creator Black Isle]] to do the game back on the West Coast, but doing it with the updated engine and SPECIAL system from ''3'' and continuing to innovate in storytelling and setting lore. The result was a game that both old-school ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' purists and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' fans agree is an excellent entry in the series.
2nd May '17 6:43:55 PM nombretomado
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** And then there's ''TransformersAnimated'', which brought a new art style to the cartoon and placeed more emphasis on human supervillains to keep the Decepticons from looking ineffective, but won over a lot of converts in short order via strong writing and good use of the MythologyGag.

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** And then there's ''TransformersAnimated'', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', which brought a new art style to the cartoon and placeed more emphasis on human supervillains to keep the Decepticons from looking ineffective, but won over a lot of converts in short order via strong writing and good use of the MythologyGag.
1st Feb '17 4:34:14 AM StFan
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* ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' brought in a new art style and a completely new set of storylines while keeping as many old characters as they could. Their main new character, Spyke, failed testing and [[PutOnABus was written out]] (and a version of him was even executed by Wolverine in the unrelated ''X3'' in a cool, but one-sided fight). {{X-23}}, on the other side, became popular enough with only two episodes worth of screening to be ported into the comics.

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* ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' brought in a new art style and a completely new set of storylines while keeping as many old characters as they could. Their main new character, Spyke, failed testing and [[PutOnABus was written out]] (and a version of him was even executed by Wolverine in the unrelated ''X3'' in a cool, but one-sided fight). {{X-23}}, ComicBook/{{X 23}}, on the other side, became popular enough with only two episodes worth of screening to be ported into the comics.
9th Jan '17 9:17:23 PM Scabbard
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* ''Film/SupermanReturns'', a film that by all rights, ''should'' have been a reboot of the franchise that ended up becoming a sequel to a movie that came out [[Film/SupermanII close to 30 years previously.]] Bryan Singer turned the movie into his own personal love to the Christopher Reeves movies. Critics and audiences who grew up with the original films showered it with praise while [[CriticalDissonance new audiences were completely frozen out.]] The movie ultimately ended up disappointing at the boxoffice.

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* ''Film/SupermanReturns'', a film that by all rights, ''should'' have been a reboot of the franchise that ended up becoming a sequel to a movie that came out [[Film/SupermanII close to 30 years previously.]] Bryan Singer turned the movie into his own personal love letter to the Christopher Reeves movies. Critics and audiences who grew up with the original films showered it with praise while [[CriticalDissonance new audiences were completely frozen out.]] The movie ultimately ended up disappointing at the boxoffice.box office.
8th Jan '17 3:05:08 PM nombretomado
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* Similarly, Marvel's [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate series]] is an attempt to bring casual and new fans into the fold by recreating their most popular works (Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}, Comicbook/{{X-Men}}, ComicBook/FantasticFour, and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'') from the ground up. Although almost all villains and heroes are extremely familiar, they've all received major make-overs and have had their [[BackStory backstories]] {{retool}}ed and modernized. In one of their most controversial points, they've removed Peter Parker's job as a photojournalist and made him a webjockey instead.

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* Similarly, Marvel's [[UltimateMarvel [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate series]] is an attempt to bring casual and new fans into the fold by recreating their most popular works (Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}, Comicbook/{{X-Men}}, Comicbook/XMen, ComicBook/FantasticFour, and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'') from the ground up. Although almost all villains and heroes are extremely familiar, they've all received major make-overs and have had their [[BackStory backstories]] {{retool}}ed and modernized. In one of their most controversial points, they've removed Peter Parker's job as a photojournalist and made him a webjockey instead.
16th Sep '16 3:12:37 PM ZeroDozer
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* ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' brought in a new art style and a completely new set of storylines while keeping as many old characters as they could. Their main new character, Spyke, failed testing and [[PutOnABus was written out]] (and a version of him was even executed by Wolverine in the unrelated ''X3'' in a cool, but one-sided fight).

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* ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' brought in a new art style and a completely new set of storylines while keeping as many old characters as they could. Their main new character, Spyke, failed testing and [[PutOnABus was written out]] (and a version of him was even executed by Wolverine in the unrelated ''X3'' in a cool, but one-sided fight). {{X-23}}, on the other side, became popular enough with only two episodes worth of screening to be ported into the comics.
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