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26th Aug '16 3:17:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* Despite being Japanese, ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' complete averts it and is actually one of the most realistic portrayals of the [[WestGermany Bonn]] and TheBerlinRepublic in non-German fiction. It even deals with the difficulties of [[EastGermany east German]] officals integrating into a new society that [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell regards their former government as criminals]], which is quite difficult to explain to outsiders.

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* Despite being Japanese, ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' complete averts it and is actually one of the most realistic portrayals of the [[WestGermany Bonn]] and TheBerlinRepublic UsefulNotes/TheBerlinRepublic in non-German fiction. It even deals with the difficulties of [[EastGermany east German]] officals integrating into a new society that [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell regards their former government as criminals]], which is quite difficult to explain to outsiders.
16th Aug '16 12:16:45 PM Knight20
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* Well... [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest the Oktoberfest]], [[CaptainObvious rea]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin lly]]. And '''''no''''', it neither celebrates beer nor does it celebrate the fact that it's October. It celebrates the jubilee of the 1810 wedding of the Bavarian Prince Ludwig I (later King Ludwig I of Bavaria, the grandfather of UsefulNotes/LudwigIIOfBavaria) and Therese of Saxe-Hildburghausen on the same spot, just outside the city limits of UsefulNotes/{{Munich}} (in 1810, that was, as the city engulfed it. Nowadays, it's in the city centre). Not that it would be an easy task to find any German who knows this.
* Cincinnati ''is'' a known example for this trope during Oktoberfests, along with many places in the world with a high German colony will become mini Oktoberfests or host similar festivals, i.e. Blumenau in Brazil and Kitchener (formerly Berlin, Ontario) in Canada.
** The Kitchener Oktoberfest is actually the largest Oktoberfest celebration in the world outside of Germany.
* German songs bang on about this to the extent that the Deutschlandlied, from which one part was taken to become the '''national anthem''', has a second stanza (repeated in the chorus) to this effect:
-->Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
-->Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang.
-->'''Translation:'''
-->German Women, German loyalty,
-->German Wine and German song.
** As of 1990, only the third stanza of the Deutschlandlied is recognized as the national anthem. That's the one about unity, justice and freedom. The first stanza was deemed too nationalist to be part of the anthem of united Germany, and had the taint of the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] besides (they had sung ''only'' the first stanza, and then jumped into the Horst-Wessel-Lied). The second stanza was deemed to be too drunk and informal to be the anthem of ''any'' country.
* At a cruder level, there are interminable German student songs, invariably about imbibing huge quantities of beer (''Im Schwarzen Walfisch'', ''Krambambuli'' et al), generally sung at the Kneipe, which is a sort of Oktoberfest organised by ultra-conservative German student fencing (Mensur, a crude summary would be fencing standing still, with sharp sabres, and no head protection beyond goggles. The aim is to take hits silently) Corps.
* Many breweries in the United States and other non-German countries sell seasonal craft beers to commemorate Oktoberfest. Such beers are usually premium German-style lagers that are only available during the months of September and October.
* The Japanese restaurant "Die Wurst" is Bavarian themed, with waitresses wearing "Dirndl" and "Lederhosen".
* Leavenworth Washington, which survived the decline of the timber industry by turning itself into a little Bavaria in the Cascades, is known for it's Octoberfest.

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\n[[AC:RealLife]]\n* Well... [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest the Oktoberfest]], [[CaptainObvious rea]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin lly]]. And '''''no''''', it neither celebrates beer nor does it celebrate the fact that it's October. It celebrates the jubilee of the 1810 wedding of the Bavarian Prince Ludwig I (later King Ludwig I of Bavaria, the grandfather of UsefulNotes/LudwigIIOfBavaria) and Therese of Saxe-Hildburghausen on the same spot, just outside the city limits of UsefulNotes/{{Munich}} (in 1810, that was, as the city engulfed it. Nowadays, it's in the city centre). Not that it would be an easy task to find any German who knows this.\n* Cincinnati ''is'' a known example for this trope during Oktoberfests, along with many places in the world with a high German colony will become mini Oktoberfests or host similar festivals, i.e. Blumenau in Brazil and Kitchener (formerly Berlin, Ontario) in Canada.\n** The Kitchener Oktoberfest is actually the largest Oktoberfest celebration in the world outside of Germany.\n* German songs bang on about this to the extent that the Deutschlandlied, from which one part was taken to become the '''national anthem''', has a second stanza (repeated in the chorus) to this effect:\n-->Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,\n-->Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang.\n-->'''Translation:'''\n-->German Women, German loyalty,\n-->German Wine and German song.\n** As of 1990, only the third stanza of the Deutschlandlied is recognized as the national anthem. That's the one about unity, justice and freedom. The first stanza was deemed too nationalist to be part of the anthem of united Germany, and had the taint of the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] besides (they had sung ''only'' the first stanza, and then jumped into the Horst-Wessel-Lied). The second stanza was deemed to be too drunk and informal to be the anthem of ''any'' country.\n* At a cruder level, there are interminable German student songs, invariably about imbibing huge quantities of beer (''Im Schwarzen Walfisch'', ''Krambambuli'' et al), generally sung at the Kneipe, which is a sort of Oktoberfest organised by ultra-conservative German student fencing (Mensur, a crude summary would be fencing standing still, with sharp sabres, and no head protection beyond goggles. The aim is to take hits silently) Corps.\n* Many breweries in the United States and other non-German countries sell seasonal craft beers to commemorate Oktoberfest. Such beers are usually premium German-style lagers that are only available during the months of September and October.\n* The Japanese restaurant "Die Wurst" is Bavarian themed, with waitresses wearing "Dirndl" and "Lederhosen". \n* Leavenworth Washington, which survived the decline of the timber industry by turning itself into a little Bavaria in the Cascades, is known for it's Octoberfest.\n\n[[AC:{{Theatre}}]][[/folder]]

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* Well... [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest the Oktoberfest]], [[CaptainObvious rea]][[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin lly]]. And '''''no''''', it neither celebrates beer nor does it celebrate the fact that it's October. It celebrates the jubilee of the 1810 wedding of the Bavarian Prince Ludwig I (later King Ludwig I of Bavaria, the grandfather of UsefulNotes/LudwigIIOfBavaria) and Therese of Saxe-Hildburghausen on the same spot, just outside the city limits of UsefulNotes/{{Munich}} (in 1810, that was, as the city engulfed it. Nowadays, it's in the city centre). Not that it would be an easy task to find any German who knows this.
* Cincinnati ''is'' a known example for this trope during Oktoberfests, along with many places in the world with a high German colony will become mini Oktoberfests or host similar festivals, i.e. Blumenau in Brazil and Kitchener (formerly Berlin, Ontario) in Canada.
** The Kitchener Oktoberfest is actually the largest Oktoberfest celebration in the world outside of Germany.
* German songs bang on about this to the extent that the Deutschlandlied, from which one part was taken to become the '''national anthem''', has a second stanza (repeated in the chorus) to this effect:
-->Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
-->Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang.
-->'''Translation:'''
-->German Women, German loyalty,
-->German Wine and German song.
** As of 1990, only the third stanza of the Deutschlandlied is recognized as the national anthem. That's the one about unity, justice and freedom. The first stanza was deemed too nationalist to be part of the anthem of united Germany, and had the taint of the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] besides (they had sung ''only'' the first stanza, and then jumped into the Horst-Wessel-Lied). The second stanza was deemed to be too drunk and informal to be the anthem of ''any'' country.
* At a cruder level, there are interminable German student songs, invariably about imbibing huge quantities of beer (''Im Schwarzen Walfisch'', ''Krambambuli'' et al), generally sung at the Kneipe, which is a sort of Oktoberfest organised by ultra-conservative German student fencing (Mensur, a crude summary would be fencing standing still, with sharp sabres, and no head protection beyond goggles. The aim is to take hits silently) Corps.
* Many breweries in the United States and other non-German countries sell seasonal craft beers to commemorate Oktoberfest. Such beers are usually premium German-style lagers that are only available during the months of September and October.
* The Japanese restaurant "Die Wurst" is Bavarian themed, with waitresses wearing "Dirndl" and "Lederhosen".
* Leavenworth Washington, which survived the decline of the timber industry by turning itself into a little Bavaria in the Cascades, is known for it's Octoberfest.
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21st Jun '16 12:29:53 AM PaulA
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Of course, many foreign authors discover there is more than one region of Germany. Sadly these "discoveries" tend to include regions like the [[TheLostWoods Black Forest]] where they grow cuckoo clocks, [[BrothersGrimm fairy tales]], and gingerbread houses. In {{Prussia}}, of course, the men are all {{Badass Longcoat}}s who have [[PuttingOnTheReich crew cuts, monocles, duelling scars and interrogation sessions that start with "Vays off makink you talk"]], while of course, their DistaffCounterpart TheBaroness is happy to assist. Oddly, while the stigmatic association with swastikas and blitzkrieg is fading as time progresses, this archetype seems to be [[MemeticMutation morphing]] into an image of [[GermanicEfficiency tight-laced]] [[GermanicDepressives basketcases]], {{Goth}}s, and fascistic {{Dominatrix}}es who frequent badly lit discotheques blaring ElectronicMusic, and their ways of making you talk consists of [[MostCommonSuperpower the baroness]] enacting unspeakable bondage, domination and sadomasochism. But [[CulturedWarrior be prepared to listen to a detailed history]] of ImperialGermany before ''[[ThoseWackyNazis they]]'' went and ruined it for everyone.

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Of course, many foreign authors discover there is more than one region of Germany. Sadly these "discoveries" tend to include regions like the [[TheLostWoods Black Forest]] where they grow cuckoo clocks, [[BrothersGrimm [[Creator/TheBrothersGrimm fairy tales]], and gingerbread houses. In {{Prussia}}, of course, the men are all {{Badass Longcoat}}s who have [[PuttingOnTheReich crew cuts, monocles, duelling scars and interrogation sessions that start with "Vays off makink you talk"]], while of course, their DistaffCounterpart TheBaroness is happy to assist. Oddly, while the stigmatic association with swastikas and blitzkrieg is fading as time progresses, this archetype seems to be [[MemeticMutation morphing]] into an image of [[GermanicEfficiency tight-laced]] [[GermanicDepressives basketcases]], {{Goth}}s, and fascistic {{Dominatrix}}es who frequent badly lit discotheques blaring ElectronicMusic, and their ways of making you talk consists of [[MostCommonSuperpower the baroness]] enacting unspeakable bondage, domination and sadomasochism. But [[CulturedWarrior be prepared to listen to a detailed history]] of ImperialGermany before ''[[ThoseWackyNazis they]]'' went and ruined it for everyone.
29th May '16 2:05:23 PM eroock
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->''We are we and write us ''us'' - it's Bavarian ''liberalitas''!\\

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-->--'''Die Biermüslblosn''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyi8L6J--IY "Welcome To Bavaria"]]

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-->-- '''Die
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20th Apr '16 6:37:59 AM 20person
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** The Kitchener Oktoberfest is actually the largest Oktoberfest celebration in the world outside of Germany.
19th Apr '16 12:36:57 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''FastTimesAtRidgemontHigh'' Mark Ratner takes Stacy on a date to a German restaurant. The waitress who serves them is a rubenesque woman wearing lederhosen.

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* In ''FastTimesAtRidgemontHigh'' ''Film/FastTimesAtRidgemontHigh'' Mark Ratner takes Stacy on a date to a German restaurant. The waitress who serves them is a rubenesque woman wearing lederhosen.
9th Mar '16 1:04:00 PM Hossmeister
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* The character Dieter Lederhosen from ''PepperAnn'' fulfills about every non-Nazi, non-{{Prussia}}n, non-Music/{{Kraftwerk}} German stereotype. So does his family whose name is indeed Lederhosen. And although he grew up in Hazelnut (as opposed to being on student exchange), he speaks with the typical accent.

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* The character Dieter Lederhosen from ''PepperAnn'' ''WesternAnimation/PepperAnn'' fulfills about every non-Nazi, non-{{Prussia}}n, non-Music/{{Kraftwerk}} German stereotype. So does his family whose name is indeed Lederhosen. And although he grew up in Hazelnut (as opposed to being on student exchange), he speaks with the typical accent.
6th Mar '16 7:07:25 PM FF32
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* The japanese restaurant "Die Wurst" is bavarian themed with waitresses wearing "Dirndl" and "Lederhosen".

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* The japanese Japanese restaurant "Die Wurst" is bavarian themed Bavarian themed, with waitresses wearing "Dirndl" and "Lederhosen".



* The Medic in ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is German, and of course has the stereotypical accent. [[MemeticMutation "Oktoberfest"]] is one of his taunts. Thankfully, he doesn't wear lederhosen, though he can put on a NiceHat.

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* The Medic in ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is German, and of course has the stereotypical accent. [[MemeticMutation "Oktoberfest"]] is one of his taunts. Thankfully, he doesn't wear lederhosen, though he can put on a NiceHat. A Mann vs. Machine map brings the team to his hometown of Rottenburg, which looks to have situated itself as this for tourists.



* The goats and [[{{Mooks}} Rhynocs]] of the level Sheila's Alp in ''VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon'' are obviously based on this. Despite that, [[PlayerCharacter Sheila]] herself is an out of place [[KangaroosRepresentAustralia Aussia-accented kangaroo]].

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* The goats and [[{{Mooks}} Rhynocs]] of the level Sheila's Alp in ''VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon'' are obviously based on this. Despite that, [[PlayerCharacter Sheila]] herself is an out of place [[KangaroosRepresentAustralia Aussia-accented Aussie-accented kangaroo]].



* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''. When the gang go to Germany for Oktoberfest, Fry expects the drunken debauchery of his day. He is greatly dissapointed that in the ensuing thousand years, it has evolved into a classy, sophisticated event. Lederhosen and sausage are still present, though; in fact, the plot includes Bender entering a sausage-making competition.

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* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''. When the gang go to Germany for Oktoberfest, Fry expects the drunken debauchery of his day. He is greatly dissapointed disappointed that in the ensuing thousand years, it has evolved into a classy, sophisticated event. Lederhosen and sausage are still present, though; in fact, the plot includes Bender entering a sausage-making competition.
26th Feb '16 7:22:20 AM Menshevik
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This has partly to do with the fact that many American units were assigned the southern part of Germany as their occupation zone at the end of WW II and as such most of their military personnel took their experiences of bucolic Bavaria as the archetype of all things German back home. Another contributing factor is that a significant portion of the German immigrants to America came from the rural regions of Southern and Eastern Germany- especially Bavaria. To this day one will find German Americans proudly operating [[TheGoodOldDays traditional]] Biergartens and breaking out the Leiderhosen, steins, sausage, polka, and sauerkraut at any opportunity, much to the chagrin of any modern Germans trying to shed exactly this folksy image. While the intention is an honest celebration of their heritage, it can reach a point of MisaimedFandom and SelfParody at times, similar to the enthusiasm of those of [[{{Oireland}} Oirish]] [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishDiaspora descent]].

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This has partly to do with the fact that many American units were assigned the southern part of Germany as their occupation zone at the end of WW II and as such most of their military personnel took their experiences of bucolic Bavaria as the archetype of all things German back home. Another contributing factor is that a significant portion of the German immigrants to America came from the rural regions of Southern and Eastern Germany- especially Germany - notably Bavaria. To this day one will find German Americans proudly operating [[TheGoodOldDays traditional]] Biergartens and breaking out the Leiderhosen, Lederhosen, steins, sausage, polka, and sauerkraut at any opportunity, much to the chagrin of any modern Germans trying to shed exactly this folksy image. While the intention is an honest celebration of their heritage, it can reach a point of MisaimedFandom and SelfParody at times, similar to the enthusiasm of those of [[{{Oireland}} Oirish]] [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishDiaspora descent]].
26th Feb '16 7:19:14 AM Menshevik
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This has partly to do with the fact that many American and British units were assigned the southern part of Germany as their occupation zone at the end of WW II and as such most of their military personnel took their experiences of bucolic Bavaria as the archetype of all things German back home. Another contributing factor is that a significant portion of the German immigrants to America came from the rural regions of Southern and Eastern Germany- especially Bavaria. To this day one will find German Americans proudly operating [[TheGoodOldDays traditional]] Biergartens and breaking out the Leiderhosen, steins, sausage, polka, and sauerkraut at any opportunity, much to the chagrin of any modern Germans trying to shed exactly this folksy image. While the intention is an honest celebration of their heritage, it can reach a point of MisaimedFandom and SelfParody at times, similar to the enthusiasm of those of [[{{Oireland}} Oirish]] [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishDiaspora descent]].

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This has partly to do with the fact that many American and British units were assigned the southern part of Germany as their occupation zone at the end of WW II and as such most of their military personnel took their experiences of bucolic Bavaria as the archetype of all things German back home. Another contributing factor is that a significant portion of the German immigrants to America came from the rural regions of Southern and Eastern Germany- especially Bavaria. To this day one will find German Americans proudly operating [[TheGoodOldDays traditional]] Biergartens and breaking out the Leiderhosen, steins, sausage, polka, and sauerkraut at any opportunity, much to the chagrin of any modern Germans trying to shed exactly this folksy image. While the intention is an honest celebration of their heritage, it can reach a point of MisaimedFandom and SelfParody at times, similar to the enthusiasm of those of [[{{Oireland}} Oirish]] [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishDiaspora descent]].
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