History Main / ObligatoryWarCrimeScene

27th May '17 12:14:14 PM nombretomado
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A fairly young trope that emerged from the previously-hidden TruthInTelevision of TheVietnamWar. Often used to show that WarIsHell and/or to [[AvertedTrope avert]] TruffautWasRight. Compare SinkTheLifeboats, LeaveNoSurvivors. Contrast TheWomenAreSafeWithUs, WouldNotShootACivilian.

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A fairly young trope that emerged from the previously-hidden TruthInTelevision of TheVietnamWar.UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar. Often used to show that WarIsHell and/or to [[AvertedTrope avert]] TruffautWasRight. Compare SinkTheLifeboats, LeaveNoSurvivors. Contrast TheWomenAreSafeWithUs, WouldNotShootACivilian.
21st May '17 11:05:12 PM Lanes17B
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** The Ultranationalist forces in ''Modern Warfare 3'' have laid waste to New York City, including having killed hundreds, if not thousands, of civilians. More were also killed in the opening gas attack across numerous European cities, which are being blasted into rubble by the Ultranationalist war machine, and in the Prague level, a number of people, [[LaResistance resistance members]] or otherwise, are seen hung from makeshift gallows.
4th May '17 6:02:19 PM zylon
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---> '''Gunner:''' Anyone who runs is a VC, anyone who stands still is a ''well-disciplined'' VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!\\

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---> '''Gunner:''' Anyone who runs is a VC, anyone VC. Anyone who stands still is a ''well-disciplined'' VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!\\



** Joker covers the story of a mass-grave where 20 civilians executed by the North Vietnamese Army lie, some of the victims were buried alive.

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** Joker covers the story of a mass-grave mass grave where 20 civilians executed by the North Vietnamese Army lie, some of the victims were buried alive.
22nd Apr '17 4:19:08 AM erforce
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** The ''Punisher'': ''Born'' mini series reveals that this happened ''all the time'' during Frank Castle's third and final tour in Vietnam. From Marines executing incapacitated enemy combatants, using overtly cruel attack methods, to one of the Marines actually having a bag full of ''human scalps'' that he keeps as "souvenirs". And that's not even getting in to the part were they tried to gang rape a female enemy...

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** The ''Punisher'': ''Born'' ''Comicbook/ThePunisherBorn'' mini series reveals that this happened ''all the time'' during Frank Castle's third and final tour in Vietnam. From Marines executing incapacitated enemy combatants, using overtly cruel attack methods, to one of the Marines actually having a bag full of ''human scalps'' that he keeps as "souvenirs". And that's not even getting in to the part were they tried to gang rape a female enemy...
4th Apr '17 3:06:50 PM Frankencastle
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-->'''Fury:''' Jesus fucking Christ almighty.
** The ''Punisher'': ''Born'' mini series reveals that this happened ''all the time'' during Frank Castle's fourth and final tour in Vietnam. From Marines executing incapacitated enemy combatants, using overtly cruel attack methods, to one of the Marines actually having a bag full of ''human scalps'' that he keeps as "souvenirs". And that's not even getting in to the part were they tried to gang rape a female enemy...
** All of the above examples pale in comparison to what General Zakharov got up to in Afghanistan. In the Man Of Stone'' arc, a British journalist calmly describes to Frank the sort of "tactics" that Zakharov would routinely employ against the Afghan fighters. [[spoiler:The most infamous of these was the way he decided to goad the local Afghan rebels out of hiding. He did this by gathering up the entire population of a local Afghan village and had them forcibly thrown off a cliff one by one, much to the horror of the Afghan fighters. But the crowning moment would have to be when an Afghan woman begs Zakharov that he spare her infant son. How does Zakharov respond to this woman's plea? By taking the infant into his hands, and '''''chucking the baby off a cliff''''']]. The scariest part is that we later learn that he did this to another ''six villages''.

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-->'''Fury:''' Jesus ''Jesus fucking Christ almighty.
almighty''.
** The ''Punisher'': ''Born'' mini series reveals that this happened ''all the time'' during Frank Castle's fourth third and final tour in Vietnam. From Marines executing incapacitated enemy combatants, using overtly cruel attack methods, to one of the Marines actually having a bag full of ''human scalps'' that he keeps as "souvenirs". And that's not even getting in to the part were they tried to gang rape a female enemy...
** All of the above examples pale in comparison to what General Zakharov got up to in Afghanistan. In the Man ''Man Of Stone'' arc, a British journalist calmly describes to Frank the sort of "tactics" that Zakharov would routinely employ against the Afghan fighters. [[spoiler:The most infamous of these was the way he decided to goad the local Afghan rebels out of hiding. He did this by gathering up the entire population of a local Afghan village and had them forcibly thrown off a cliff one by one, much to the horror of the Afghan fighters. But the crowning moment would have to be when an Afghan woman begs Zakharov that he spare her infant son. How does Zakharov respond to this woman's plea? By taking the infant into his hands, and '''''chucking the baby off a cliff''''']]. The scariest part is that we later learn that he did this to another ''six villages''.
4th Apr '17 3:05:27 PM Frankencastle
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** The ''Punisher'': ''Born'' mini series reveals that this happened ''all the time'' during Frank Castle's fourth and final tour in Vietnam. From Marines executing incapacitated enemy combatants, using overtly cruel attack methods, to one of the Marines actually having a bag full of ''human scalps'' that he keeps as "souvenirs". And that's not even getting in to the part were they tried to gang rape a female enemy...
** All of the above examples pale in comparison to what General Zakharov got up to in Afghanistan. In the Man Of Stone'' arc, a British journalist calmly describes to Frank the sort of "tactics" that Zakharov would routinely employ against the Afghan fighters. [[spoiler:The most infamous of these was the way he decided to goad the local Afghan rebels out of hiding. He did this by gathering up the entire population of a local Afghan village and had them forcibly thrown off a cliff one by one, much to the horror of the Afghan fighters. But the crowning moment would have to be when an Afghan woman begs Zakharov that he spare her infant son. How does Zakharov respond to this woman's plea? By taking the infant into his hands, and '''''chucking the baby off a cliff''''']]. The scariest part is that we later learn that he did this to another ''six villages''.
1st Mar '17 5:19:12 PM Wuz
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* The [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression Second Interplanetary War]] in ''Anime/AldnoahZero'' opens with the Orbital Knights bringing their [[MileLongShip Landing Castles]] down on several of Earth's major cities, generating massive, nuke-like explosions that kill what is likely to be millions of civilians.
** When flying in to his mission, [[BloodKnight Sir Trillram]] deliberately has his sky carrier crash into an ejected Terran pilot, disintegrating him with his [[HumongousMecha Kataphrakt]]'s dimensional barrier.
19th Feb '17 10:35:51 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Arya's scenes in Harrenhal before Tywin arrives.
** The hanged women Jaime and Brienne find in "Valar Morghulis."
** Locke's torture and abuse of Jaime and Brienne.
** The murders of Willem and Martyn Lannister in "Kissed By Fire."
4th Feb '17 1:00:41 AM Doug86
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** The ''Transformers IDW'' run also features issue #8, "Scrapper," where the eponymous Decepticon engineer is pinned in a building by iron beams, including one that goes through his abdomen. Crippled and vulnerable, he offers to surrender to the humans--Spike Witwicky in particular--but in lieu of accepting the surrender of a disabled fighter unable to offer resistance, Spike executes Scrapper by using his own gun to blow his face off. The Decepticons recovered his body and were able to view his final moments, and Megatron is able to use this information to gain the upper moral hand against Optimus for once, showing it as proof that humans could not be trusted to accept the honors of war, not even Optimus' closest human friends. This revalation disturbs Optimus so much he has to dispatch Prowl to investigate if this is a ploy on Megatron's part--naturally, it's not, as Prowl finds out firsthand when the Decepticons make ''him'' into the rebuilt Devastator's head later.

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** The ''Transformers IDW'' run also features issue #8, "Scrapper," where the eponymous Decepticon engineer is pinned in a building by iron beams, including one that goes through his abdomen. Crippled and vulnerable, he offers to surrender to the humans--Spike Witwicky in particular--but in lieu of accepting the surrender of a disabled fighter unable to offer resistance, Spike executes Scrapper by using his own gun to blow his face off. The Decepticons recovered his body and were able to view his final moments, and Megatron is able to use this information to gain the upper moral hand against Optimus for once, showing it as proof that humans could not be trusted to accept the honors of war, not even Optimus' closest human friends. This revalation revelation disturbs Optimus so much he has to dispatch Prowl to investigate if this is a ploy on Megatron's part--naturally, it's not, as Prowl finds out firsthand when the Decepticons make ''him'' into the rebuilt Devastator's head later.



* In [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/90939/shell-shock Shell Shock,]] this trope is chillingly partnered with SadisticChoice. A truckload of captured zebras are machinegunned in the middle of the road.

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* In [[http://www.''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/90939/shell-shock Shell Shock,]] Shock]]'', this trope is chillingly partnered with SadisticChoice. A truckload of captured zebras are machinegunned in the middle of the road.



* In ''FallingSkies'', when the aliens order a mech to mow down a group of kids, as an example of what happens when the humans attempt to free one.

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* In ''FallingSkies'', ''Series/FallingSkies'', when the aliens order a mech to mow down a group of kids, as an example of what happens when the humans attempt to free one.



* In German war drama ''[[Series/UnsereMuetterUnsereVaeter Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter]]'', the Winter brothers' unit is seen shooting Russian [=POW=]s, pushing civilians at gunpoint onto a mined area to clear their path, and carrying out reprisal killings against innocent farmers for the actions of partisans (not that the [[EvilVersusEvil Russians]] are much better, during the little we see of them). And the crimes [[spoiler: Friedhelm]] commits at the behest of [=SS=]-Sturmbahnführer Hiemer are even worse.

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* In German war drama ''[[Series/UnsereMuetterUnsereVaeter Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter]]'', the Winter brothers' unit is seen shooting Russian [=POW=]s, pushing civilians at gunpoint onto a mined area to clear their path, and carrying out reprisal killings against innocent farmers for the actions of partisans (not that the [[EvilVersusEvil Russians]] are much better, during the little we see of them). And the crimes [[spoiler: Friedhelm]] commits at the behest of [=SS=]-Sturmbahnführer Hiemer are even worse.



* Potentially present in ''VideoGame/{{Sabres of Infinity}}'' at the Antari Camp, where the player may massacre the civilians fleeing from the camp, trap them inside before burning it to the ground, or execute all the captured Antari after intimidating them into surrendering, [[WhatTheHellHero much to the disgust of their superiors.]]

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* Potentially present in ''VideoGame/{{Sabres of Infinity}}'' ''VideoGame/SabresOfInfinity'' at the Antari Camp, where the player may massacre the civilians fleeing from the camp, trap them inside before burning it to the ground, or execute all the captured Antari after intimidating them into surrendering, [[WhatTheHellHero much to the disgust of their superiors.]]



* Happens from time to time in ''WorldOfWarcraft'', such as early on in the Jade Forest, when Admiral Rogers orders her troops to open fire on Horde soldiers swimming away from their sinking ships and trying to surrender. On the other hand, some of the atrocities that the Forsaken and Garrosh commit are viewed with disgust by much of the rest of the Horde (in the former case, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Garrosh]]).

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* Happens from time to time in ''WorldOfWarcraft'', ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', such as early on in the Jade Forest, when Admiral Rogers orders her troops to open fire on Horde soldiers swimming away from their sinking ships and trying to surrender. On the other hand, some of the atrocities that the Forsaken and Garrosh commit are viewed with disgust by much of the rest of the Horde (in the former case, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Garrosh]]).



* In ''VideoGame/CompanyOfHeroes'' ''2'', the Soviet campaign plays out like a demented who's-who list of your standard war crimes. Shooting surrendering German soldiers is one thing that's commonly done, but this game goes the extra mile by having Soviet soldiers ''burning women and children to death in their farmhouses''. What's funnier, the German campaign takes no such liberties to depict German soldiers executing Russian civilians ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Invasion_of_the_Soviet_Union which is something they did very, very often]], or indeed committing anything remotely resembling a war crime. Needless to say, the reception to the game among Russian gamers was [[{{Understatement}} a tad negative]]. The game's Russian publisher ceased distributing it, and then there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4SCUaBHS8 this video]].

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* In ''VideoGame/CompanyOfHeroes'' ''2'', ''VideoGame/CompanyOfHeroes 2'', the Soviet campaign plays out like a demented who's-who list of your standard war crimes. Shooting surrendering German soldiers is one thing that's commonly done, but this game goes the extra mile by having Soviet soldiers ''burning women and children to death in their farmhouses''. What's funnier, the German campaign takes no such liberties to depict German soldiers executing Russian civilians ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Invasion_of_the_Soviet_Union which is something they did very, very often]], or indeed committing anything remotely resembling a war crime. Needless to say, the reception to the game among Russian gamers was [[{{Understatement}} a tad negative]]. The game's Russian publisher ceased distributing it, and then there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4SCUaBHS8 this video]].


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17th Jan '17 9:19:01 AM Jhonny
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* Creator/MikeDuncan does not particularly revel in telling the grim details in his Podcast/TheHistoryOfRome Podcast nor in his Podcast/{{Revolutions}} Podcast, but he does recount most of them and certainly all of the ones he considers relevant. One of the reasons why he was stumped when asked about a good book about the History of Rome for kids, because - in his words - there is really no way to make "And then Augustus rounded up all his political opponents and had them beheaded" child friendly
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