History Main / ObligatoryWarCrimeScene

17th Sep '16 11:52:52 AM StrixObscuro
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* ''Series/{{JAG}}'': The promotion of Rear Admiral Thomas Boone to Vice Admiral is called off in "A Separate Peace" because of credible sources claiming he took part in war crimes during TheVietnamWar when working closely with {{CIA}} officers.

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* ''Series/{{JAG}}'': The promotion of Rear Admiral Thomas Boone to Vice Admiral is called off in "A Separate Peace" because of credible sources claiming he took part in war crimes during TheVietnamWar UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar when working closely with {{CIA}} officers.



* ''Series/TheLastShip'' does this every now and then:
** In the second season, [[spoiler:Dr. Rachel Scott murders Dr. Niels Sorenson by stripping him of the thing that makes him immune to the Red Flu.]]
** In the third-season finale, [[spoiler:Chandler murders Allison Shaw in cold blood.]]



* In Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''HenryV,'' the hero-king threatens the citizens of Harfleur with some pretty grisly consequences for trying to defend themselves ("In a moment look to see the blind and bloody soldier with foul hand defile the locks of your shrill-shrieking daughters", [[http://shakespeare.mit.edu/henryv/henryv.3.3.html etc.]]). He goes on, at Agincourt, to order his soldiers to slaughter all their prisoners (the text of the play actually has him [[http://shakespeare.mit.edu/henryv/henryv.4.6.html doing this]] [[http://shakespeare.mit.edu/henryv/henryv.4.7.html twice]], which is a little weird). In the next scene this is explained by Captain Gower as retribution for the killing of the boys looking after the baggage (and many readers of the play are inclined to take his word for it), but the first of these orders is given before anyone on the English side learns of it, in response to the French regrouping.

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* In Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''HenryV,'' ''Theatre/HenryV,'' the hero-king threatens the citizens of Harfleur with some pretty grisly consequences for trying to defend themselves ("In a moment look to see the blind and bloody soldier with foul hand defile the locks of your shrill-shrieking daughters", [[http://shakespeare.mit.edu/henryv/henryv.3.3.html etc.]]). He goes on, at Agincourt, to order his soldiers to slaughter all their prisoners (the text of the play actually has him [[http://shakespeare.mit.edu/henryv/henryv.4.6.html doing this]] [[http://shakespeare.mit.edu/henryv/henryv.4.7.html twice]], which is a little weird). In the next scene this is explained by Captain Gower as retribution for the killing of the boys looking after the baggage (and many readers of the play are inclined to take his word for it), but the first of these orders is given before anyone on the English side learns of it, in response to the French regrouping.
17th Sep '16 11:44:01 AM radnick104
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'''IMPORTANT NOTE:''' Civil wars don't count, [[LoopholeAbuse as the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to internal conflicts.]]
4th Sep '16 3:26:24 PM Potman
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* Ulfric Stormcloak (or the [[PlayerCharacter Dovahkiin]], on his order) executing General Tullius after he surrenders, or vice versa, in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', though there's DeliberateValuesDissonance in play: this was somewhat less objectionable in medieval times.

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'':
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Ulfric Stormcloak (or the [[PlayerCharacter Dovahkiin]], on his order) executing General Tullius after he surrenders, or vice versa, in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', though there's DeliberateValuesDissonance in play: this was somewhat less objectionable in medieval times.


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** In Ulfric Stormcloak's backstory, he inflicted the entire city of Markarth with this: any Forsworn sympathisers, including women and children, were put to sword once he'd taken the city.
4th Sep '16 3:10:15 PM Potman
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* So many examples of this in ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'', that it's probably easier to talk about a "obligatory decent behaviour scene" instead.
18th Aug '16 9:23:45 PM PaulA
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* ''Literature/TheVorkosiganSaga'' Cordelia and Aral Vorkosigan's first meeting is laced with these. An unexpected meeting between his squad and her survey team turned into a firefight, which would be bad enough on its own (the Betans were unarmed noncombatants,) but by the time they catch up with the Barrayaran forces a few days later, they are in the process of torturing a mute, brain-damaged Betan prisoner to death.

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* ''Literature/TheVorkosiganSaga'' In ''Literature/ShardsOfHonor'', Cordelia and Aral Vorkosigan's first meeting is laced with these. An unexpected meeting between his squad and her survey team turned into a firefight, which would be bad enough on its own (the Betans were unarmed noncombatants,) noncombatants), but by the time they catch up with the Barrayaran forces a few days later, they are in the process of torturing a mute, brain-damaged Betan prisoner to death. death.
8th Jul '16 1:58:41 PM Willbyr
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* So many examples of this in {{Manga/Berserk}}, that it's probably easier to talk about a "obligatory decent behaviour scene" instead.

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* So many examples of this in {{Manga/Berserk}}, ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'', that it's probably easier to talk about a "obligatory decent behaviour scene" instead.



* The Emperor Rescue Mission Arc in ''TheFiveStarStories'' features a scene with the AKD forces (more or less the good guys here) lining up and shooting captured enemy troops as the Morale Officer (actually a member of the [[SuperSoldier Headdliner corps]] in disguise) begs their commanding officer to call it off.

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* The Emperor Rescue Mission Arc in ''TheFiveStarStories'' ''Manga/TheFiveStarStories'' features a scene with the AKD forces (more or less the good guys here) lining up and shooting captured enemy troops as the Morale Officer (actually a member of the [[SuperSoldier Headdliner corps]] in disguise) begs their commanding officer to call it off.
8th Jun '16 4:23:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[TheVorkosiganSaga Cordelia and Aral Vorkosigan's]] first meeting is laced with these. An unexpected meeting between his squad and her survey team turned into a firefight, which would be bad enough on its own (the Betans were unarmed noncombatants,) but by the time they catch up with the Barrayaran forces a few days later, they are in the process of torturing a mute, brain-damaged Betan prisoner to death.

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* [[TheVorkosiganSaga ''Literature/TheVorkosiganSaga'' Cordelia and Aral Vorkosigan's]] Vorkosigan's first meeting is laced with these. An unexpected meeting between his squad and her survey team turned into a firefight, which would be bad enough on its own (the Betans were unarmed noncombatants,) but by the time they catch up with the Barrayaran forces a few days later, they are in the process of torturing a mute, brain-damaged Betan prisoner to death.
15th Mar '16 4:30:52 AM Fireblood
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* Sergeant Meserve in ''Film/CasualtiesOfWar'' kidnaps, rapes, and kills an innocent Vietnamese civilian, which is the main plot of the entire story, and the other soldiers' reactions.

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* Sergeant Meserve and his men in ''Film/CasualtiesOfWar'' kidnaps, rapes, kidnap, gang rape, and kills murder an innocent Vietnamese civilian, women, aside from one soldier who reports them to command, which is the main plot of the entire story, and the other soldiers' reactions.story.



* ''Film/PlayDirty'' ends with the only two survivors of the squad (With the possible exception of a man left behind with a mortal gut wound who potentially hadn't died ''yet'') being gunned down by a British soldier who saw their white flag (they were disguised as German soldiers) and shot them anyway. The killer's CO simply said "Don't do it again".
* ''Film/RedDawn1984'' is almost nothing but war crimes on both sides. The Communists start executing unarmed civilians left and right the moment they parachute in, and their response to any wolverine attack is to round up a group of random townpeople and execute them in public as a "message". A fairly large portion of the town is held in a gulag converted from a drive in movie theater. The wolverines are more then happy to bomb civilian buildings and torture, then execute, captured Russian soldiers "because we live here".
* In ''Film/BloodDiamond'', the RUF terrorists shoot anyone who's not on their side, and their leader hacks a mans hand with a machete. Much of this happened in the Sierra Leone Civil War.

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* ''Film/PlayDirty'' ends with the only two survivors of the squad (With (with the possible exception of a man left behind with a mortal gut wound who potentially hadn't died ''yet'') being gunned down by a British soldier who saw their white flag (they were disguised as German soldiers) and shot them anyway. The killer's CO simply said "Don't do it again".
* ''Film/RedDawn1984'' is almost nothing but war crimes on both sides. The Communists start executing unarmed civilians left and right the moment they parachute in, and their response to any wolverine Wolverine attack is to round up a group of random townpeople townspeople and execute them in public as a "message". A fairly large portion of the town is held in a gulag converted from a drive in drive-in movie theater. The wolverines Wolverines are more then happy to bomb civilian buildings and torture, then execute, captured Russian soldiers "because "Because we live here".
* In ''Film/BloodDiamond'', the RUF terrorists shoot anyone who's not on their side, and their leader hacks a mans man's hand off with a machete. Much of this actually happened in the Sierra Leone Civil War.



** A little later Wardaddy orders the summary execution of a captured SS officer. The officer had been hanging civilians for not joining the army at gunpoint, so it ''might'' have been legal - if there had been modicum of due process attached.
*** In fact, it's legal, as summary execution for witnessed war crimes is allowed if there is no possibility that the criminal can be detailed for future trial. It just requires a "in the field" trial, presided over by an officer, with a pro-forma trial of testimony.

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** A little later Wardaddy orders the summary execution of a captured SS officer. The officer had been hanging civilians for not joining the army at gunpoint, so it ''might'' have been legal - if there had been a modicum of due process attached.
*** In fact, it's legal, as summary execution for witnessed war crimes is allowed if there is no possibility that the criminal can be detailed for future trial. It just requires a an "in the field" trial, presided over by an officer, with a pro-forma trial hearing of testimony.



* No ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' novel would be complete without at least one graphic description of what happens to civilians who get caught in the crossfire. In one story their employer chews out Colonel Hammer for nerve-gassing a village that was harboring insurgents, the Colonel responds that a nuke would have been noticed by the press.

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* No ''Literature/HammersSlammers'' novel would be complete without at least one graphic description of what happens to civilians who get caught in the crossfire. In one story their employer chews out Colonel Hammer for nerve-gassing a village that was harboring insurgents, the insurgents-the Colonel responds that a nuke would have been noticed by the press.



** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', Harry himself uses the "unforgivable" torture-inflicting Cruciatus curse to ambush a Death Eater--and reminds us that for the curse to work, you have to ''genuinely want'' the target to suffer.
** Also, he uses Imperio like a JediMindTrick in book seven.

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** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', Harry himself uses the "unforgivable" Unforgivable torture-inflicting Cruciatus curse Curse to ambush a Death Eater--and Eater-and reminds us that for the curse to work, you have to ''genuinely want'' the target to suffer.
** Also, Also he uses Imperio Imperio, another Unforgivable Curse, like a JediMindTrick in book seven.



* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Capitol air force blowing up the hospital in Eight. It turns into a strategic blunder, however, since [[spoiler: not only does the Capitol lose several precious bombers in the process, but the attack is televised and subsequently milked for all its worth, PR-wise, by District 13 media.]]
** Then used plenty on the rebel side in the FinalBattle for the capitol. Starting when Katniss kills a random civilian woman who stumbles on her squad as they infiltrate the Capitol-held territory. Then TurnedUpToEleven in the final sequence with the rebels (including Gale and Katniss) firing indiscriminately into crowds of civilians, Gale murdering a wounded peacekeeper to take his rifle and finally [[spoiler: District 13 aircraft firebombing a courtyard packed with children, using bombs that detonate a second time to eliminate the relief personnel.]]

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* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': The Capitol air force blowing up the hospital in Eight. It turns into a strategic blunder, however, since [[spoiler: not only does the Capitol lose several precious bombers in the process, but the attack is televised and subsequently milked for all its worth, PR-wise, by District 13 media.]]
** Then used plenty on the rebel side in the FinalBattle for the capitol. Starting capitol, starting when Katniss kills a random civilian woman who stumbles on her squad as they infiltrate the Capitol-held territory. Then territory then TurnedUpToEleven in the final sequence with the rebels (including Gale and Katniss) firing indiscriminately into crowds of civilians, Gale murdering a wounded peacekeeper to take his rifle and finally [[spoiler: District 13 aircraft firebombing a courtyard packed with children, using bombs that detonate a second time to eliminate the relief rescue personnel.]]



** In another scene, after a last-ditch suicide charge by the Japanese, Sledge shoots a soldier who was unarmed and wounded. Later in the same episode, he decides not to shoot another unarmed Japanese soldier - but then a few rookie marines gun him down instead and blow off Sledge when he disapproves.

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** In another scene, after a last-ditch suicide charge by the Japanese, Sledge shoots a soldier who was unarmed and wounded. Later in the same episode, he decides not to shoot another unarmed Japanese soldier - but then a few rookie marines Marines gun him down instead and blow off Sledge when he disapproves.



* On ''Series/{{Alphas}}'' an attempt by government agents to arrest the leaders of Red Flag (an Alpha terrorist organization) gathered for a meeting quickly descends into chaos as some of the Alphas resist and the government agents open fire. They kill everyone they see, even those trying to surrender or hide. They shoot Bill (in his vest), failing to distinguish him from their targets after a demonstration of SuperStrength. One agent nearly kills ''Gary'' when he has a tantrum over finding [[spoiler:Anna]]'s body - given that he weighs ninety pounds soaking wet and can barely lift the baton he was whaling on the agent with, it comes off very much like a Nazi about to [[KickTheDog stomp on a yapping chihuahua]]. The scene demonstrated how unprepared and heavy handed the government is when dealing with Alphas and that the situation has reached the level of a war.
* Two such instances in the 1997 miniseries ''Series/TheRoughRiders''. One involves a Spanish soldier who tries to surrender, but after he's already killed one of the Rough Riders. He's promptly shot. The other is the rather casual bayoneting of a German military adviser. The German's death is fictional, as no such incident is known to have occurred and indeed the presence of German military at the battle is disputed by historians. Why director John Milius would invent a fictional war crime unnecessary to the plot is not known, however he refers to the Germans bizarrely and inaccurately as [[AllGermansAreNazis Nazis]] on the DVD's audio commentary, suggesting a mild axe to grind even against pre-World War II Germans.

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* On ''Series/{{Alphas}}'' an attempt by government agents to arrest the leaders of Red Flag (an Alpha terrorist organization) gathered for a meeting quickly descends into chaos as some of the Alphas resist and the government agents open fire. They kill everyone they see, even those trying to surrender or hide. They shoot Bill (in his vest), failing to distinguish him from their targets after a demonstration of SuperStrength. One agent nearly kills ''Gary'' when he has a tantrum over finding [[spoiler:Anna]]'s body - given that he weighs ninety pounds soaking wet and can barely lift the baton he was whaling on the agent with, it comes off very much like a Nazi about to [[KickTheDog stomp on a yapping chihuahua]]. The scene demonstrated how unprepared and heavy handed heavy-handed the government is when dealing with Alphas and that the situation has reached the level of a war.
* Two such instances in the 1997 miniseries ''Series/TheRoughRiders''. One involves a Spanish soldier who tries to surrender, but after he's already killed one of the Rough Riders. He's promptly shot. The other is the rather casual bayoneting of a German military adviser. The German's death is fictional, as no such incident is known to have occurred and indeed the presence of German military at the battle is disputed by historians. Why director John Milius would invent a fictional war crime unnecessary to the plot is not known, however he refers to the Germans bizarrely and inaccurately as [[AllGermansAreNazis Nazis]] on the DVD's audio commentary, suggesting a mild axe ax to grind even against pre-World War II Germans.



* In ''Series/TrueBlood'', Terry Belflaur and all the other Marines are war criminals, committing some seemingly harmless acts, such as holing up in a mosque, but also for more harmful crimes, such as killing harmless and unarmed civilians.

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* In ''Series/TrueBlood'', Terry Belflaur and all the other Marines are war criminals, committing some seemingly harmless acts, such as holing up in a mosque, but also for more harmful crimes, crimes such as killing harmless and unarmed unarmed, wounded civilians.



* ''Series/{{The 100}}'' sees our heroes torturing a captive prisoner for information, firing on the enemy during a peace conference, and, on one occasion, just snapping from the stress and gunning down a bunch of innocent villagers. Most of them are ChildSoldiers with no formal training, thrust into a war and a world they don't understand, so they don't always handle things as well as they should.

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* ''Series/{{The 100}}'' sees our heroes torturing a captive prisoner for information, firing on the enemy during a peace conference, and, on one occasion, just snapping from the stress and gunning down a bunch of innocent villagers. Most of them are ChildSoldiers with no formal training, thrust into a war and a world they don't understand, so they don't always handle things as well as they should. Meanwhile, their enemies are even worse in most cases.



** The prisoners were presumably against it, but it must also have been a very unpopular order among his own army. Many of them had captured French knights that would otherwise have paid hefty ransoms. (Henry's kill-em-all order is the reason that his old drinking buddy Pistol looks forward to a future as a pimp and thief: he could have retired comfortably on the ransom his prisoner M. Fer would have brought him.)

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** The prisoners were presumably against it, but it must also have been a very unpopular order among his own army. Many of them had captured French knights that would otherwise have paid hefty ransoms. ransoms (Henry's kill-em-all order is the reason that his old drinking buddy Pistol looks forward to a future as a pimp and thief: he could have retired comfortably on the ransom his prisoner M. Fer would have brought him.)him).



* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' that shows O.S.I battling the classic Sphinx organization, the forces of O.S.I are shown casually committing numerous war crimes, including mirroring some famous/infamous real life ones. The deeds done range from [[SinkTheLifeboats killing pilots who have ejected from destroyed planes]] to shooting a helpless prisoner who has already surrendered, ([[http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/saigon-execution-murder-vietcong-saigon-1968/ paralleling an award winning picture from the Vietnam War]]) or a soldier casually smoking while standing atop a naked group of Sphinx soldiers, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse ala the Abu Ghraib prison torture]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz59tFR2KMs Here's the clip in question]].

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* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' that shows O.S.I battling the classic Sphinx organization, the forces of O.S.I are shown casually committing numerous war crimes, including mirroring some famous/infamous real life ones. The deeds done range from [[SinkTheLifeboats killing pilots who have ejected from destroyed planes]] to shooting a helpless prisoner who has already surrendered, ([[http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/saigon-execution-murder-vietcong-saigon-1968/ paralleling an award winning award-winning picture from the Vietnam War]]) or a soldier casually smoking while standing atop a naked group of Sphinx soldiers, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse ala the Abu Ghraib prison torture]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz59tFR2KMs Here's the clip in question]].
6th Feb '16 5:20:22 AM Griff4
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*** Yzak gets to see this from the other side later in the series. He was at the Battle of Panama mentioned above. Yzak is horrified by the slaughter, and it greatly contributes to his HeelFaceTurn at the end of the series.

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*** Yzak gets to see this from the other side later in the series. He was at the Battle of Panama mentioned above. Yzak is horrified by the slaughter, and it greatly contributes to his HeelFaceTurn at the end of the series.
29th Jan '16 7:44:09 AM TheWanderer
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* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' that shows O.S.I battling the classic Sphinx organization, the forces of O.S.I are shown casually committing numerous war crimes, including mirroring some famous/infamous real life ones. The deeds done range from [[SinkTheLifeboats killing pilots who have ejected from destroyed planes]] to shooting a helpless prisoner who has already surrendered, ([[http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/saigon-execution-murder-vietcong-saigon-1968/ paralleling an award winning picture from the Vietnam War]]) or a soldier casually smoking while standing atop a naked group of Sphinx soldiers, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse ala the Abu Ghraib prison torture]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz59tFR2KMs Here's the clip in question]].
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