History Main / ObligatoryWarCrimeScene

9th Jan '17 2:58:22 AM jamespolk
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* Two cases in ''Film/{{Fury2014}}'', both committed by the main characters.

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* Two cases in ''Film/{{Fury2014}}'', ''Film/{{Fury 2014}}'', both committed by the main characters.


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* Vietnam War documentary ''Film/HeartsAndMinds'' is chock full o'war crimes, all perpetrated by the Americans of course. Children poisoned by napalm, a man screaming hysterically because his little children were killed by an American bomb, American soldiers torching a village--in other words, not a good 4th of July film.
8th Nov '16 10:00:52 AM Smeagol17
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*** In fact, it's legal, as summary execution for witnessed war crimes is allowed if there is no possibility that the criminal can be detailed for future trial. It just requires an "in the field" trial, presided over by an officer, with a pro-forma hearing of testimony.
*** See this troper's outraged response in the form of the four-star response above. Sometimes I hate you all(Humanity).
8th Nov '16 9:59:28 AM Smeagol17
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*** It should be noted: the German soldier was wearing the overcoat of an American soldier. Regardless of why he had the coat (it was cold in April 1945, so the implication is that he took it off a dead GI), according to the Geneva Conventions, an enemy soldier captured wearing any article of your own side's uniform or gear or carrying your side's issued weapon is legally considered an infiltrator and subject to summary execution. The Germans would (and did) do the same thing. Notice that other captured Wehrmacht troops were not harmed by the Americans. Troops on both sides were warned about this, and told to get rid of any captured enemy gear before surrendering. It was his own fault for not doing so.
*** I'm sorry, what? It's the German's fault he was murdered? What kind of world do you live in that that is acceptable under any circumstances? We're not talking about an SS Camp guard, here(and an extrajudicial summary execution wouldn't even be morally acceptable then), we're talking about a terrified German soldier in the last days of WW2, when most of those soldiers still fighting had no choice(they were often forced by the aforementioned SS--and many were children), and most surrendered the first chance they could get without being shot as a traitor. To go through that kind of hell and then be killed by the supposedly morally superior allies for bundling up in a coat in the freezing cold is horrific, and the claim 'it was his own fault' is disgusting. Talk about [[WrittenbytheWinners Victor's Justice]]. Add to that that this page used to have the farcical claim that the Geneva convention doesn't apply to Civil Wars and I seriously worry about the moral fibre and intelligence of people on this site.
8th Nov '16 9:33:50 AM SolidSonicTH
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** ''Modern Warfare 2'' ups the ante even further with the infamous 'No Russian' level, [[spoiler:where the player, as a deep cover CIA operative tasked with getting in the good graces of the villain of the game, participates in a terrorist attack on a Moscow airport, complete with the gunning down of unarmed civilians.]] In retribution for that mission, [[spoiler: the Russians invade Washington, D.C. with the sole intent of [[RoaringRampageofRevenge killing as many Americans as possible.]] The player gets a front-row view of Russian tanks and helicopters firing on CASEVAC choppers (i.e., civilian evacuation helicopters). In the rules of war, that's what we call a definite no-no.]]

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** ''Modern Warfare 2'' ups the ante even further with the infamous 'No Russian' level, [[spoiler:where the player, as a deep cover CIA operative tasked with getting in the good graces of the villain of the game, participates in a terrorist attack on a Moscow airport, complete with the gunning down of unarmed civilians.]] In retribution for that mission, [[spoiler: the Russians invade Washington, D.C. with the sole intent of [[RoaringRampageofRevenge killing as many Americans as possible.]] The player gets a front-row view of Russian tanks and helicopters firing on CASEVAC choppers (i.e., civilian evacuation helicopters). In the rules of war, that's what we call a definite no-no.]]]] Soap also commits some JackBauerInterrogationTechnique during the game.
6th Nov '16 10:21:47 PM Mhazard
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* [[SociopathicHero Mikazuki Augus]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' has a habit of executing enemy prisoners of war, justified that he's a [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Private Military Contractor]] rather than a soldier, and most of the people he killed are either AssholeVictim, or those [[ItsPersonal he has a grudge against]].
6th Nov '16 10:10:53 PM Mhazard
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A fairly young trope that emerged from the previously-hidden TruthInTelevision of TheVietnamWar. Often used to show that WarIsHell and/or to [[AvertedTrope avert]] TruffautWasRight. Compare SinkTheLifeboat, LeaveNoSurvivo Contrast TheWomenAreSafeWithUs, WouldNotShootACivilian.

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A fairly young trope that emerged from the previously-hidden TruthInTelevision of TheVietnamWar. Often used to show that WarIsHell and/or to [[AvertedTrope avert]] TruffautWasRight. Compare SinkTheLifeboat, LeaveNoSurvivo SinkTheLifeboats, LeaveNoSurvivors. Contrast TheWomenAreSafeWithUs, WouldNotShootACivilian.
6th Nov '16 10:10:15 PM Mhazard
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A form of KickTheDog in war movies, where the heroes (or more often, the side that the heroes fight for) commit a war crime of some sort, most often mistreatment of [[WouldNotShootACivilian enemy prisoners of war or civilians]]. Done to illustrate that most [[WarIsHell wars]] aren't instances of BlackAndWhiteMorality, as well as the mix of good and bad in most armies and how wartime can change a person's personality. Sometimes, these crimes will be reprisals for earlier ones against the heroes' side. May sometimes overlap with TokenEvilTeammate.

A fairly young trope that emerged from the previously-hidden TruthInTelevision of TheVietnamWar. Often used to show that WarIsHell and/or to [[AvertedTrope avert]] TruffautWasRight. Contrast TheWomenAreSafeWithUs, WouldNotShootACivilian.

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A form of KickTheDog in war movies, where the heroes (or more often, the side that the heroes fight for) commit a war crime of some sort, most often mistreatment of [[WouldNotShootACivilian enemy prisoners of war or civilians]]. Done to illustrate that most [[WarIsHell wars]] aren't instances of BlackAndWhiteMorality, as well as the mix of good and bad in most armies and how wartime can change a person's personality. Sometimes, these crimes will be reprisals for earlier ones against the heroes' side. May sometimes overlap with TokenEvilTeammate.

TokenEvilTeammate. In a heroic portrayal, these crimes are justified for the principles of PayEvilUntoEvil, or a RoaringRampageOfRevenge.

A fairly young trope that emerged from the previously-hidden TruthInTelevision of TheVietnamWar. Often used to show that WarIsHell and/or to [[AvertedTrope avert]] TruffautWasRight. Compare SinkTheLifeboat, LeaveNoSurvivo Contrast TheWomenAreSafeWithUs, WouldNotShootACivilian.
6th Nov '16 6:52:58 PM TheLearnedSoldier
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*** See this troper's outraged response at the four-star response above. Sometimes I hate you all(Humanity).

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6th Nov '16 6:52:34 PM TheLearnedSoldier
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***I'm sorry, what? It's the German's fault he was murdered? What kind of world do you live in that that is acceptable under any circumstances? We're not talking about an SS Camp guard, here(and an extrajudicial summary execution wouldn't even be morally acceptable then), we're talking about a terrified German soldier in the last days of WW2, when most of those soldiers still fighting had no choice(they were often forced by the aforementioned SS--and many were children), and most surrendered the first chance they could get without being shot as a traitor. To go through that kind of hell and then be killed by the supposedly morally superior allies for bundling up in a coat in the freezing cold is horrific, and the claim 'it was his own fault' is disgusting. Talk about [[WrittenbytheWinners Victor's Justice]]. Add to that that this page used to have the farcical claim that the Geneva convention doesn't apply to Civil Wars and I seriously worry about the moral fibre and intelligence of people on this site.


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****See this troper's outraged response at the four-star response above. Sometimes I hate you all(Humanity).
6th Nov '16 6:36:37 PM TheLearnedSoldier
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'''IMPORTANT NOTE:''' Civil wars don't count, [[LoopholeAbuse as the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to internal conflicts.]]
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