History Main / NuclearOption

23rd Apr '17 10:22:18 AM nombretomado
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* In ''SwordOfTheStars'', the first Hiver fleet that [[DeathFromAbove visited humanity]] was driven off only after Earth broke out its ICBM stockpile. In-game, your missile warhead options ''start'' at nuclear fission and go up from there.

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* In ''SwordOfTheStars'', ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'', the first Hiver fleet that [[DeathFromAbove visited humanity]] was driven off only after Earth broke out its ICBM stockpile. In-game, your missile warhead options ''start'' at nuclear fission and go up from there.
7th Apr '17 2:50:27 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* Captain Stanislav Petrov very nearly came to this conclusion in late 1983, when he saw what looked like 5 [=ICBMs=] inbound to Moscow while on duty at an early-warning center. Fortunately, he was mistrustful of the newly-installed system (which was malfunctioning -- the satellites had picked up a rare reflection at just the right angle over the right portion of the US to spoof the IR signatures of launching [=ICBMs=]), [[OnlySaneMan and rational enough to realize that launching only five warheads as a first strike was suicidally foolish]]; otherwise, he might have deemed it a US first strike and would have alerted his superiors in the Soviet Union (at that point absolutely paranoid that the US was imminently planning such a sneak attack) who would have ordered a "counter" strike against the "attack"... the upshot of which is that we probably would be too busy being radioactive dust or having never been born to be reading TVTropes right here and now. He was [[UngratefulBastard reprimanded by his superiors at the time]] but rather obviously has been VindicatedByHistory.

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* Captain Colonel Stanislav Petrov very nearly came to this conclusion in late 1983, when he saw what looked like 5 [=ICBMs=] inbound to Moscow while on duty at an early-warning center. Fortunately, he was mistrustful of the newly-installed system (which was malfunctioning -- the satellites had picked up a rare reflection at just the right angle over the right portion of the US to spoof the IR signatures of launching [=ICBMs=]), [[OnlySaneMan and rational enough to realize that launching only five warheads as a first strike was suicidally foolish]]; otherwise, he might have deemed it a US first strike and would have alerted his superiors in the Soviet Union (at that point absolutely paranoid that the US was imminently planning such a sneak attack) who would have ordered a "counter" strike against the "attack"... the upshot of which is that we probably would be too busy being radioactive dust or having never been born to be reading TVTropes right here and now. He Petrov himself was [[UngratefulBastard reprimanded by neither punished nor rewarded for the incident. Though he found himself HauledBeforeASenateSubCommittee, it was concluded that he had acted properly and sensibly in the situation, but since the incident demonstrated several technical problems with the early warning system, and therefore was an embarrassment his superiors at and the time]] but rather obviously has been VindicatedByHistory.influential scientists who were responsible for it, Petrov was ultimately just quietly transferred to a less important post and his story was not told until after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
5th Apr '17 6:33:56 PM DemoDemon
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-->Notes: One would think that putting SCP-682 in the epicenter of an explosion that can cause third-degree burns at a distance of 300 km is a good idea, but as long as there are odds of survival we simply cannot go through with it. Yes, it's a goddamn nuke, but if 682 [[FromASingleCell survives]] and [[AdaptiveAbility adapts]] we'd be boned beyond belief. [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure O5-█]]
2nd Apr '17 11:08:54 AM StevieC
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* Hypothetically, an option that might be considered to destroy an asteroid if it were about to strike the earth. However it's not considered a very good option except for fairly small ones, a large one might be broken into several large pieces that might collectively be more dangerous than the intact asteroid.

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* Hypothetically, an option that might be considered to destroy an asteroid if it were about to strike the earth. However it's not considered a very good option except for fairly small ones, a large one might be broken into several large pieces that might collectively be more dangerous than the intact asteroid.asteroid, as not only are there now several asteroid fragments, but now they're radioactive, too.
18th Mar '17 5:30:30 PM Doug86
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* In the category of {{Fantastic Nuke}}s, the use of [[EarthShatteringKaboom Exterminatus]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40k}}'' varies between this and NukeEm DependingOnTheWriter. For every time that a fanatical Inquisitor orders the destruction of an innocent, loyal Imperial world, there are a hundred where the threat is [[HordeOfAlienLocusts so extreme]], [[LegionsOfHell so vile]], [[TheCorruption so insidious]], or [[RobotWar so entrenched]] that destroying the entire planet really is the reasoned, logical approach.

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* In the category of {{Fantastic Nuke}}s, the use of [[EarthShatteringKaboom Exterminatus]] in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40k}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' varies between this and NukeEm DependingOnTheWriter. For every time that a fanatical Inquisitor orders the destruction of an innocent, loyal Imperial world, there are a hundred where the threat is [[HordeOfAlienLocusts so extreme]], [[LegionsOfHell so vile]], [[TheCorruption so insidious]], or [[RobotWar so entrenched]] that destroying the entire planet really is the reasoned, logical approach.
4th Mar '17 10:05:02 PM Mhazard
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* in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', in order to halt the Institute from bring the terror upon Commonwealth with their synthetic humans, you must nuke the entire facility to shut down the Institute for good. The quest name is also called "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Nuclear Option]]". Oddly enough, the other option is to join the Institute and change it by [[spoiler: becoming the Director of Institute itself]].

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* in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', in order to halt the Institute from bring bringing the terror upon Commonwealth with their synthetic humans, you must nuke the entire facility to shut down the Institute for good. The quest name is also called "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Nuclear Option]]". Oddly enough, the other option is to [[spoiler: join the Institute and change it by [[spoiler: becoming the Director of the Institute itself]].
27th Feb '17 10:19:04 PM Saber15
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* In ''Literature/{{Footfall}}'', amid a hostile alien invasion, the President of the United States asks the relatively unharmed Soviet Union to nuke Kansas, the chief alien landing zone. Later on, the government in exile realizes that the abandoned [[spoiler: Project Orion]] starship is the only way to get enough mass into space to challenge the alien's orbital superiority, and secretly builds an orbital battleship [[spoiler: that propels itself using nuclear explosions, vaporizing its launch site]].
27th Feb '17 6:57:21 PM tsstevens
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* In the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush was presented such an option to launch a nuclear attack on who was responsible. Whatever else can be said about that man, he turned it down.
17th Feb '17 6:39:34 PM BattleMaster
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* Captain Stanislav Petrov very nearly came to this conclusion in late 1983, when he saw what looked like 5 [=ICBMs=] inbound to Moscow while on duty at an early-warning center. Fortunately, he was mistrustful of the newly-installed system (which was malfunctioning -- the satellites had picked up a rare reflection at just the right angle over the right portion of the US to spoof the IR signatures of launching [=ICBMs=]), [[OnlySaneMan and rational enough to realize that launching only five warheads as a first strike was suicidally foolish]]; otherwise, he might have deemed it a US first strike and would have alerted his superiors in the Soviet Union (at that point absolutely paranoid that the US was imminently planning such a sneak attack) who would have ordered a "counter" strike against the "attack"... the upshot of which is that we probably would be too busy being radioactive dust or having never been born to be reading TVTropes right here and now.

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* Captain Stanislav Petrov very nearly came to this conclusion in late 1983, when he saw what looked like 5 [=ICBMs=] inbound to Moscow while on duty at an early-warning center. Fortunately, he was mistrustful of the newly-installed system (which was malfunctioning -- the satellites had picked up a rare reflection at just the right angle over the right portion of the US to spoof the IR signatures of launching [=ICBMs=]), [[OnlySaneMan and rational enough to realize that launching only five warheads as a first strike was suicidally foolish]]; otherwise, he might have deemed it a US first strike and would have alerted his superiors in the Soviet Union (at that point absolutely paranoid that the US was imminently planning such a sneak attack) who would have ordered a "counter" strike against the "attack"... the upshot of which is that we probably would be too busy being radioactive dust or having never been born to be reading TVTropes right here and now. He was [[UngratefulBastard reprimanded by his superiors at the time]] but rather obviously has been VindicatedByHistory.
12th Feb '17 10:59:36 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* [[UsefulNotes/HarryTruman President Truman]] chose to utilize the Nuclear Option over the massive Allied sea invasion and conquest of the Japanese home islands to take place in November 1945, Operation Downfall, on the pretext that "[[LesserOfTwoEvils This will end the war five years sooner and save millions of lives]]". The decision was based on very sound RealPolitik logic. If it persuaded the Japanese Army-Navy Junta to surrender before the Soviets invaded northern Japan (in September/October 1945), great! If all it did was destroy two of the four cities that it had proven impossible to raze with regular firebombing, like the other 82 (87 including those four plus Kyoto, but Kyoto was taken off the list), then that was also a plus. There wasn't even an opportunity cost to using the bombs against the difficult-to-firebomb-cities, as only a couple of bombs could be used in ''Downfall'' anyway (two days beforehand against the beaches they wanted to land on, so they would have an unopposed landing) and the USA would have produced several more by that time.

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* [[UsefulNotes/HarryTruman President Truman]] chose to utilize the Nuclear Option over the massive Allied sea invasion and conquest of the Japanese home islands to take place in November 1945, Operation Downfall, on the pretext that "[[LesserOfTwoEvils This will end the war five years sooner and save millions of lives]]". The decision was based on very sound RealPolitik {{Realpolitik}} logic. If it persuaded the Japanese Army-Navy Junta to surrender before the Soviets invaded northern Japan (in September/October 1945), great! If all it did was destroy two of the four cities that it had proven impossible to raze with regular firebombing, like the other 82 (87 including those four plus Kyoto, but Kyoto was taken off the list), then that was also a plus. There wasn't even an opportunity cost to using the bombs against the difficult-to-firebomb-cities, as only a couple of bombs could be used in ''Downfall'' anyway (two days beforehand against the beaches they wanted to land on, so they would have an unopposed landing) and the USA would have produced several more by that time.
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