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5th Jan '18 9:31:00 PM nombretomado
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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13792636210A84451500&page=547#13656 Here]] in [[EnterTheArenaAsYourAvatar our very own Avatar Arena]], the [[InfinityBlade Worker of Secrets]] gets hit with it, courtesy of [[spoiler: [[FanNickname Troll]][[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica doka]]]].

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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13792636210A84451500&page=547#13656 Here]] in [[EnterTheArenaAsYourAvatar our very own Avatar Arena]], the [[InfinityBlade [[VideoGame/InfinityBlade Worker of Secrets]] gets hit with it, courtesy of [[spoiler: [[FanNickname Troll]][[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica doka]]]].
4th Dec '17 9:23:18 PM DarkPhoenix94
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** Doctor Strange, however, outshines them all, to the point where pretty much everyone thinks that he actually is omniscient. As it is, he's implied to be a combination of {{Seer}} and time traveller with the ability to see possible futures. His reputation mostly comes from his habit of knowing what's going on, always being where he needs to be and dropping cryptic hints about what people should do next - which [[ManipulativeBastard inevitably means that they end up doing what he wants them to do, whether they know it or not, or want to or not]]. While this doesn't usually seem to do much, since he's planning on a multi-millennia scale, the finale of Book I reveals what it looks like when he gets all of his ducks in a row.
** And chapter 8 and 9 of the sequel, ''Ghosts of the Past'', show what it looks like when he gets it wrong...

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** Doctor Strange, however, outshines them all, to the point where pretty much everyone thinks that he actually is omniscient.omniscient (a belief he has implied is carefully cultivated). As it is, he's implied to be a combination of {{Seer}} and time traveller with the ability to see possible futures. His reputation mostly comes from his habit of knowing what's going on, always being where he needs to be and dropping cryptic hints about what people should do next - which [[ManipulativeBastard inevitably means that they end up doing what he wants them to do, whether they know it or not, or want to or not]]. While this doesn't usually seem to do much, since he's planning on a multi-millennia scale, the finale of Book I reveals what it looks like when he gets all of his ducks in a row.
** And chapter 8 and 9 through 15 of the sequel, ''Ghosts of the Past'', show what it looks like when he gets it wrong...he's flying blind... it's not pretty.
27th Nov '17 2:11:57 PM Bliumage
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* At the end of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', Madoka pulls an [[spoiler:AbstractApotheosis and becomes TheOmniscient by existing in all points of space and time]]. Later in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', Kyubey creates [[spoiler:a space that is isolated from all forms of external influence, preventing Madoka from entering it and blocking out her omniscience]]. However, the show doesn't explicitly say this, [[ViewersAreGeniuses and expects the viewers to figure it out on their own]]. In fact, Madoka does [[spoiler:enter the isolated space...[[GodInHumanForm but she has to take the form of a human to do so]], causing her to lose her omniscience via losing her omnipresence]]. Even when the isolated space is broken, this gap in omniscient enabled [[WhamEpisode a shocking event]] to [[DidntSeeThatComingtake her by surprise]].]]

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* At the end of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', Madoka pulls an [[spoiler:AbstractApotheosis and becomes TheOmniscient by existing in all points of space and time]]. Later in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', Kyubey creates [[spoiler:a space that is isolated from all forms of external influence, preventing Madoka from entering it and blocking out her omniscience]]. However, the show doesn't explicitly say this, [[ViewersAreGeniuses and expects the viewers to figure it out on their own]]. In fact, Madoka does [[spoiler:enter the isolated space...[[GodInHumanForm but she has to take the form of a human to do so]], causing her to lose her omniscience via losing her omnipresence]]. Even when the isolated space is broken, this gap in omniscient enabled [[WhamEpisode a shocking event]] to [[DidntSeeThatComingtake [[DidntSeeThatComing take her by surprise]].]]
11th Nov '17 2:06:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* At the end of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', Madoka pulls an [[spoiler:AbstractApotheosis and becomes TheOmniscient by existing in all points of space and time.]] Later in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', Kyubey creates [[spoiler:a space that is isolated from all forms of external influence, preventing Madoka from entering it... ''and blocking out her omniscience]].'' However, the show doesn't explicitly say this, [[ViewersAreGeniuses and expects the viewers to figure it out on their own.]] In fact, Madoka does [[spoiler:enter the isolated space...[[GodInHumanForm but she has to take the form of a human to do so]], causing her to lose her omniscience via losing her omnipresence]]. Even when the isolated space is broken, Madoka is still [[spoiler:in the form of a human, [[WhamEpisode which causes a shocking event]] [[DidntSeeThatComing to take her by surprise.]]]]

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* At the end of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', Madoka pulls an [[spoiler:AbstractApotheosis and becomes TheOmniscient by existing in all points of space and time.]] time]]. Later in ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', Kyubey creates [[spoiler:a space that is isolated from all forms of external influence, preventing Madoka from entering it... ''and it and blocking out her omniscience]].'' omniscience]]. However, the show doesn't explicitly say this, [[ViewersAreGeniuses and expects the viewers to figure it out on their own.]] own]]. In fact, Madoka does [[spoiler:enter the isolated space...[[GodInHumanForm but she has to take the form of a human to do so]], causing her to lose her omniscience via losing her omnipresence]]. Even when the isolated space is broken, Madoka is still [[spoiler:in the form of a human, this gap in omniscient enabled [[WhamEpisode which causes a shocking event]] [[DidntSeeThatComing to take [[DidntSeeThatComingtake her by surprise.]]]] surprise]].]]
8th Nov '17 1:57:29 PM DLMaximum1
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** An episode involves android duplicates of SG-1 getting captured by Cronus. Robot!Daniel is about to be executed by a staff weapon blast to the face. The blast results in his head flying off, showing everyone that he's not human. The look of utter shock on Cronus' face convinces a large number of the locals that he cannot possible be a god.
* Happens on and off with the First Evil in Season 7 of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]. There are plenty of instances that show the First Evil is both omniscient and omnipresent, as it seems to be constantly lurking in the background watching the protagonists (even multiple places at once), and knows exactly how to mess with each character with great success. Yet at other times, the protagonists seem to surprise it with their plans, such as Andrew wearing a wire to reveal the First Evil's plans, and the Slayers and Potentials opening up the Hellmouth to lead an offense. Really, whether or not the First Evil is omniscient is entirely up the writer and seems to be turned on and off like a switch depending upon the needs of the plot.

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** An episode involves android duplicates of SG-1 getting captured by Cronus. Robot!Daniel is about to be executed by a staff weapon blast to the face. The blast results in his head flying off, showing everyone that he's not human. The look of utter shock on Cronus' face convinces a large number of the locals that he cannot possible possibly be a god.
* Happens on and off with the First Evil in Season 7 of [[http://tvtropes.''[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy the Vampire Slayer]].Slayer]]''. There are plenty of instances that show the First Evil is both omniscient and omnipresent, as it seems to be constantly lurking in the background watching the protagonists (even multiple places at once), and knows exactly how to mess with each character with great success. Yet at other times, the protagonists seem to surprise it with their plans, such as Andrew wearing a wire to reveal the First Evil's plans, and the Slayers and Potentials opening up the Hellmouth to lead an offense. Really, whether or not the First Evil is omniscient is entirely up the writer and seems to be turned on and off like a switch depending upon the needs of the plot.
8th Nov '17 1:54:13 PM DLMaximum1
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* In ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Goku is surprised that [[TheWatcher Kaio-sama]], who with his antennae [[MySignificanceSenseIsTingling can observe events of significance]] in the Milky Way, and telepathically contact anyone in that range; doesn't know where the new homeworld of the Namekians even is, much less be bothered to keep tabs on them, because he assumed that he "knew everything". He was also somewhat alarmed by him knowing nothing of the Cell situation on Earth. Kaio-sama basically retorted that he has a lot of "important godly things" that occupy his time. [[TheGodsMustBeLazy Goku found him napping on a lawnchair when he met him again]].

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* In ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Goku is surprised that [[TheWatcher Kaio-sama]], who King Kai]] with his antennae [[MySignificanceSenseIsTingling can observe events of significance]] in the Milky Way, and telepathically contact anyone in that range; doesn't know where the new homeworld of the Namekians even is, much less be bothered to keep tabs on them, because he assumed that he "knew everything". He was also somewhat alarmed by him knowing nothing of the Cell situation on Earth. Kaio-sama King Kai basically retorted that he has a lot of "important godly things" that occupy his time. [[TheGodsMustBeLazy Goku found him napping on in a lawnchair when he met him again]].



* Hercules from ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules'' temporarily became omniscient during the ComicBook/ChaosWar crossover. Despite this he was tricked repeatedly and had to be guided to victory by others. Omniscience is useless if one either ignores it or does not bother to use it.

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* Hercules from ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules'' temporarily became omniscient during the ComicBook/ChaosWar crossover. Despite this this, he was tricked repeatedly and had to be guided to victory by others. Omniscience is useless if one either ignores it or does not bother to use it.



* Bites Thanos in the ass ''hard'' in ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet. Even when the gauntlet grants him complete mastery over every conceivable domain of existence -including the mind-, he still writes off Nebula as being a mindless, husk of an organism he just keeps around to torture. ''Even after he usurps Eternity's position'' of being the omniscient, omnipresent force of the entire Universe... [[spoiler: he's still shocked when it turns out Nebula had at least enough mental faculties to simply take the Gauntlet for herself, take his position for her own, and serve as the BigBad for the remainder of the miniseries.]]

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* Bites This bites Thanos in the ass ''hard'' in ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet. Even when the gauntlet grants him complete mastery over every conceivable domain of existence -including --including the mind-, mind-- he still writes off Nebula as being a mindless, husk of an organism he just keeps around to torture. ''Even after he usurps Eternity's position'' of being the omniscient, omnipresent force of the entire Universe... [[spoiler: he's still shocked when it turns out Nebula had at least enough mental faculties to simply take the Gauntlet for herself, take his position for her own, and serve as the BigBad for the remainder of the miniseries.]]



* In ''Disney/{{Hercules}},'' the Fates brag early on that they know everything...but at the end, are caught off-guard when Hercules [[spoiler:gains immortality just as they were about to cut his thread of life]].

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* In ''Disney/{{Hercules}},'' the Fates brag early on that they know everything... but at the end, are caught off-guard when Hercules [[spoiler:gains immortality just as they were about to cut his thread of life]]. life]].



** An episode involves android duplicates of SG-1 getting captured by Cronus. Robot!Daniel is about to be executed by a staff weapon blast to the face. The blast results in his head flying off, showing everyone that he's not human. The look of utter shock on Cronus's face convinces a large number of the locals that he cannot possible be a god.

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** An episode involves android duplicates of SG-1 getting captured by Cronus. Robot!Daniel is about to be executed by a staff weapon blast to the face. The blast results in his head flying off, showing everyone that he's not human. The look of utter shock on Cronus's Cronus' face convinces a large number of the locals that he cannot possible be a god.



** In the episode "Midnight," he is constantly expected by the human characters to know exactly what is going on, but as he insistently tells him time and time again, the [[NothingIsScarier entity]] they encounter is something he literally knows nothing about.

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** In the episode "Midnight," "Midnight", he is constantly expected by the human characters to know exactly what is going on, but as he insistently tells him time and time again, the [[NothingIsScarier entity]] they encounter is something he literally knows nothing about.



* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': Enabran Tain. Even in retirement TheSpymaster stays on top of everything, right down to knowing when people have made impulsive, last minute decisions to visit him and what their favorite drinks are. In the end, he comes out of retirement to head a joined Obsidian Order/Tal Shiar task force intent on destroying the Dominion. It does not end well. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, he doesn't realize that his second-in-command (the Tal Shiar leader) is actually a disguised Founder who had instigated the entire task force with the intention of wiping out both organisations as a prelude to invasion. When Tain realizes what's happened, it's too late, and he observes to Garak that he's clearly lost his touch because he'd never have been deceived prior to his retirement.]]

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': Enabran Tain. Even in retirement TheSpymaster stays on top of everything, right down to knowing when people have made impulsive, last minute decisions to visit him and what their favorite drinks are. In the end, he comes out of retirement to head a joined Obsidian Order/Tal Shiar task force intent on destroying the Dominion. It does not end well. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, he doesn't realize that his second-in-command (the Tal Shiar leader) is actually a disguised Founder who had instigated the entire task force with the intention of wiping out both organisations organizations as a prelude to invasion. When Tain realizes what's happened, it's too late, and he observes to Garak that he's clearly lost his touch because he'd never have been deceived prior to his retirement.]]
23rd Aug '17 3:19:37 AM jormis29
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** The FatalFlaw of the Sidereal faction is to get into large groups, predict the future, and then make horrible, horrible decisions. One time they did this, right before the Usurpation, led to the temporary annihilation of the Solars, mass deaths among the Terrestrials, and genocide against the Solar's allied races, in order to [[{{Gotterdammerung}} establish a lesser but safer and more stable response to the Golden Age]]. So many beings in ''{{Exalted}}'' have ScrewDestiny as a passive power, though, that this eventually led to the deaths of nine tenths of the human population of Creation.

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** The FatalFlaw of the Sidereal faction is to get into large groups, predict the future, and then make horrible, horrible decisions. One time they did this, right before the Usurpation, led to the temporary annihilation of the Solars, mass deaths among the Terrestrials, and genocide against the Solar's allied races, in order to [[{{Gotterdammerung}} establish a lesser but safer and more stable response to the Golden Age]]. So many beings in ''{{Exalted}}'' ''Exalted'' have ScrewDestiny as a passive power, though, that this eventually led to the deaths of nine tenths of the human population of Creation.
30th May '17 9:10:30 AM project13Kr
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24th Apr '17 10:30:35 AM DarkPhoenix94
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** And chapter 8 and 9 of the sequel, ''Ghosts of the Past'', show what it looks like when he gets it wrong...



* This is the plot twist in William Shakespeare's ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}''. Macbeth uses the advice three oracle's gives him to conquer a nation. He was given a warning that "No man born of woman" will be able to kill him. He is later killed by MacDuff, who "was untimely ripped" from his mothers womb.

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* This is the plot twist in William Shakespeare's ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}''. Macbeth uses the advice three oracle's gives oracles give him to conquer a nation. He was given a warning that "No man born of woman" will be able to kill him. He is later killed by MacDuff, who "was untimely ripped" from his mothers mother's womb.
3rd Apr '17 6:20:30 AM Doug86
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* This is the plot twist in William Shakespeare’s MacBeth. MacBeth uses the advice three oracle's gives him to conquer a nation. He was given a warning that "No man born of woman" will be able to kill him. He is later killed by MacDuff, who "was untimely ripped" from his mothers womb.

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* This is the plot twist in William Shakespeare’s MacBeth. MacBeth Shakespeare's ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}''. Macbeth uses the advice three oracle's gives him to conquer a nation. He was given a warning that "No man born of woman" will be able to kill him. He is later killed by MacDuff, who "was untimely ripped" from his mothers womb.
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