History Main / NotChristianRock

21st Feb '17 11:46:19 PM gewunomox
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* JethroTull's ''Aqualung'' straddles the fence between ChristianRock and NotChristianRock - it contains songs about why Ian Anderson lost his respect for the Church of England.
* John Darnielle of TheMountainGoats is a lapsed Catholic and now occasional churchgoer, but spiritual and religious themes crop up continually in his work, most notably on ''The Life of the World to Come'' on which every song was named after, and inspired by or related to, a verse from the Bible.

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* JethroTull's Music/JethroTull's ''Aqualung'' straddles the fence between ChristianRock and NotChristianRock - it contains songs about why Ian Anderson lost his respect for the Church of England.
* John Darnielle of TheMountainGoats Music/TheMountainGoats is a lapsed Catholic and now occasional churchgoer, but spiritual and religious themes crop up continually in his work, most notably on ''The Life of the World to Come'' on which every song was named after, and inspired by or related to, a verse from the Bible.
21st Feb '17 10:15:03 PM gewunomox
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* [[Music/SmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan's]] work with Zwan had some speculating about his involvement in Christianity, particularly because they've performed songs based on traditional hymns: "Jesus, I / Mary, Star Of The Sea" is a loose adaptation of "Jesus, I My Cross Have Taken", while they've also covered a hymn called "God's Gonna Set This World On Fire". Corgan has said his beliefs include elements of Catholicism (alongside Buddhism and other religions), but hasn't publicly aligned himself with any one faith, identifying Christ as just one of his teachers alongside Buddha. He also seems to drop some subtle religious themes with [[Music/SmashingPumpkins the Pumpkins]] from time to time as well.

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* [[Music/SmashingPumpkins [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan's]] work with Zwan had some speculating about his involvement in Christianity, particularly because they've performed songs based on traditional hymns: "Jesus, I / Mary, Star Of The Sea" is a loose adaptation of "Jesus, I My Cross Have Taken", while they've also covered a hymn called "God's Gonna Set This World On Fire". Corgan has said his beliefs include elements of Catholicism (alongside Buddhism and other religions), but hasn't publicly aligned himself with any one faith, identifying Christ as just one of his teachers alongside Buddha. He also seems to drop some subtle religious themes with [[Music/SmashingPumpkins [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins the Pumpkins]] from time to time as well.
12th Feb '17 9:24:45 PM Sugao
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* Music/VNVNation turns to this trope from time to time. "Nova" in particular sounds like a man who's lost his faith and is begging for a sign from God; it could ''easily'' be played on a Christian station and no one would be the wiser. Their remix of Apoptygma Berzerk's "Kathy's Song" begins with a Microsoft Sam-esque voice reading out an extended/modified version of Genesis 1:1, and their song actually titled "Genesis" contains the line "I stand in hope that God will save us from ourselves."
31st Jan '17 1:43:03 AM BURGINABC
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** Cronos from Venom has said in the past that part of the reason for his choice of lyrical topics comes from his disappointment that so many Black Sabbath songs seemed so evil and apocalyptic and Satanic, then ended with "oh God please help me." So he decided to write similar lyrics, but with all the salvation ripped out.
** "Oh please God, help me."...Music/{{Metallica}} do this in "One", but it's heavily implied that his prayers are not answered.
21st Jan '17 7:28:17 PM Xtifr
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* TheBand often used Christian or Biblical imagery. Their most famous song, "The Weight", is a good example ("I pulled into Nazareth..."), see also "Daniel and the Sacred Harp", others.

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* TheBand Music/TheBand often used Christian or Biblical imagery. Their most famous song, "The Weight", is a good example ("I pulled into Nazareth..."), see also "Daniel and the Sacred Harp", others.
21st Jan '17 7:53:49 AM Morgenthaler
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** Some people have taken to thinking of Mr. Mister as a sort of precursor to {{Creed}}, since religious imagery is even more prominent in their body of work than the above title would suggest. ''All'' of their songs impart some sort of spiritual or philosophical message. You don't have to be Christian or even a believer in God, for instance, to feel tears come to your eyes when you hear the lyrics to "Stand and Deliver" (which, yes, was written for [[StandAndDeliver the movie of the same name]]): "I know in this life/You gotta stand up for what feels right/Each day, and every night."

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** Some people have taken to thinking of Mr. Mister as a sort of precursor to {{Creed}}, Music/{{Creed}}, since religious imagery is even more prominent in their body of work than the above title would suggest. ''All'' of their songs impart some sort of spiritual or philosophical message. You don't have to be Christian or even a believer in God, for instance, to feel tears come to your eyes when you hear the lyrics to "Stand and Deliver" (which, yes, was written for [[StandAndDeliver the movie of the same name]]): "I know in this life/You gotta stand up for what feels right/Each day, and every night."
18th Jan '17 4:03:19 PM Xtifr
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* SufjanStevens is one of the most prominent Christians in modern indie music, but he doesn't define his work as being exclusively Christian, saying: "I don't think music media is the real forum for theological discussions. I think I've said things and sung about things that probably weren't appropriate for this kind of forum. And I just feel like it's not my work or my place to be making claims and statements, because I often think it's misunderstood." Many of his songs somehow manage to strike a balance between sincere spiritual expression and {{Narm}}ful God-rock, though ''Seven Swans'' could arguably be considered a straightforward Christian album.

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* SufjanStevens Music/SufjanStevens is one of the most prominent Christians in modern indie music, but he doesn't define his work as being exclusively Christian, saying: "I don't think music media is the real forum for theological discussions. I think I've said things and sung about things that probably weren't appropriate for this kind of forum. And I just feel like it's not my work or my place to be making claims and statements, because I often think it's misunderstood." Many of his songs somehow manage to strike a balance between sincere spiritual expression and {{Narm}}ful God-rock, though ''Seven Swans'' could arguably be considered a straightforward Christian album.
10th Jan '17 4:11:41 PM CassandraLeo
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** A Silver Mt. Zion is a spinoff of Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor, who also fall under this trope. They've sampled preachers, sometimes have religious themes in their music, and have performed in churches, but are most definitely not Christian rock. Menuck isn't the only member of either group of Jewish descent, although it's not entirely clear what their religious beliefs are because many of them are {{Reclusive Artist}}s.



* Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor and sister band A Silver Mt. Zion have sampled preachers, sometimes have religious themes in their music, and have performed in churches, but are most definitely not Christian rock, not least because many of the band members are Jewish.
10th Jan '17 4:08:06 PM CassandraLeo
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* Some of Music/DreamTheater's songs can fall under this, particularly the ones with lyrics written by John Petrucci or Kevin Moore, though they also have some {{Religion Rant Song}}s (though these are more about denouncing religious hypocrisy than they are about denouncing religion as a whole). Erstwhile drummer Mike Portnoy and current keyboardist Music/JordanRudess are Jewish, and some of Portnoy's lyrics could be considered to fall under Not Jewish Rock.
* Music/MarvinGaye is definitely not a Christian rock artist, but "God Is Love" and "Wholy Holy" from ''Music/WhatsGoingOn'' could be mistaken for being Christian rock.
* Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor and sister band A Silver Mt. Zion have sampled preachers, sometimes have religious themes in their music, and have performed in churches, but are most definitely not Christian rock, not least because many of the band members are Jewish.
2nd Jan '17 5:17:56 PM KYCubbie
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* "Turn! Turn! Turn!" is taken straight from the Book of Ecclesiastes with only some slight re-arranging and two new lines (the title refrain and the ending line "I swear it's not too late"), but neither the song's writer (Pete Seeger) nor the band responsible for the best-known recording of it (Music/TheByrds) are considered to be Christian artists (or Jewish for that matter). The Byrds did record a couple of Country Gospel covers on their legendary "Sweetheart of The Rodeo" album, a cover of the Louvin Brothers' "The Christian Life" and Merle Travis's "I Am a Pilgrim" though.

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* "Turn! Turn! Turn!" is taken straight from the Book of Ecclesiastes with only some slight re-arranging and two new lines (the title refrain and the ending line "I swear it's not too late"), but neither the song's writer (Pete Seeger) nor the band responsible for the best-known recording of it (Music/TheByrds) are considered to be Christian artists (or Jewish for that matter). The Byrds did record a couple of Country Gospel covers on their legendary "Sweetheart ''Sweetheart of The Rodeo" the Rodeo'' album, a cover of the Louvin Brothers' "The Christian Life" and Merle Travis's Travis' "I Am a Pilgrim" though.



* Iron & Wine includes a lot of Christian references in his songs, even overtly referring to God and the Devil at several points. This is especially notable on ''The Shepherd's Dog'' and the song "Jesus the Mexican Boy." Despite this, he's definitely not Christian Rock and even diverges from anything resembling the Christian worldview a lot of the time.

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* Iron & Wine includes a lot of Christian references in his songs, even overtly referring to God and the Devil at several points. This is especially notable on ''The Shepherd's Dog'' and the song "Jesus the Mexican Boy." Boy". Despite this, he's definitely not Christian Rock and even diverges from anything resembling the Christian worldview a lot of the time.



** Cohen himself is an observant Jew who happens to also be a Buddhist monk. Yes, seriously.
** There's a fair amount of Catholic imagery in Cohen's lyrics. Which seems odd until you remember that he's from Montreal.

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** Cohen himself is was an observant Jew who happens happened to also be a Buddhist monk. Yes, seriously.
** There's a fair amount of Catholic imagery in Cohen's lyrics. Which seems odd until you remember that he's he was from Montreal.



* MumfordAndSons have songs with very strong Christian subtext but are not explicitly a Christian group. "Roll Away Your Stone," which alludes to the Parable of the Prodigal Son, is probably the most obvious.

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* MumfordAndSons Music/MumfordAndSons have songs with very strong Christian subtext but are not explicitly a Christian group. "Roll Away Your Stone," Stone", which alludes to the Parable of the Prodigal Son, is probably the most obvious.



** Marcus Mumford was raised as a Christian, and says he still has his own views about the person of Jesus, but has separated himself from the "culture of Christianity." Some of the imagery has obviously stuck with him though, shown in songs like "Thistle & Weeds" which seems to reference various seed-based parables:

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** Marcus Mumford was raised as a Christian, and says he still has his own views about the person of Jesus, but has separated himself from the "culture of Christianity." Christianity". Some of the imagery has obviously stuck with him though, shown in songs like "Thistle & Weeds" which seems to reference various seed-based parables:



* "From A Distance", originally performed by Nanci Griffith and later covered by Bette Midler, has fallen subject to this, and has even been covered by some contemporary Christian singers. This despite the fact that the songs make no specific references to a ''Christian'' God -- and this tendency has been criticized by other Evangelical Christians, due to the belief that the song goes against basic Christian doctrine (God doesn't watch us "from a distance", He's right next to us
* Music/{{Queen}} had a song on their first album called "Jesus", which was about, well [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin you guessed it]]. Freddie Mercury, who wrote the song, was raised Zoroastrian, however.

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* "From A a Distance", originally performed by Nanci Griffith and later covered by Bette Midler, has fallen subject to this, and has even been covered by some contemporary Christian singers. This despite the fact that the songs make no specific references to a ''Christian'' God -- and this tendency has been criticized by other Evangelical Christians, due to the belief that the song goes against basic Christian doctrine (God doesn't watch us "from a distance", He's right next to us
us).
* Music/{{Queen}} had a song on their first album called "Jesus", which was about, well [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin you guessed it]]. Freddie Mercury, Music/FreddieMercury, who wrote the song, was raised Zoroastrian, however.



** ''Innuendo'' has a song called "All God's People," which sounds like it could be the title of a Christian song but is really a (slightly ironic) gospel-influenced tune about the need for peace and unity.

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** ''Innuendo'' ''Music/Innuendo'' has a song called "All God's People," which sounds like it could be the title of a Christian song but is really a (slightly ironic) gospel-influenced tune about the need for peace and unity.



** The Christian influences became much clearer and less veiled in some of their later albums: listen to "Like Moths to Flame," "The Messenger," "Come All You Weary," "The Exile," or "Beggars" and just ''try'' to miss the Biblical imagery that suffuses and shapes the songs (basically you have, in order, the story of Peter's denial of Christ, the call of Isaiah, Jesus's call for disciples, St. Paul's preaching on being "in the world but not of it," and Job's dialogue with God).

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** The Christian influences became much clearer and less veiled in some of their later albums: listen to "Like Moths to Flame," Flame", "The Messenger," Messenger", "Come All You Weary," Weary", "The Exile," Exile", or "Beggars" and just ''try'' to miss the Biblical imagery that suffuses and shapes the songs (basically you have, in order, the story of Peter's denial of Christ, the call of Isaiah, Jesus's call for disciples, St. Paul's preaching on being "in the world but not of it," and Job's dialogue with God).



* Many of Music/AllThatRemains' lyrics can be interpreted as addressing a higher power, particularly "Not Alone."

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* Many of Music/AllThatRemains' lyrics can be interpreted as addressing a higher power, particularly "Not Alone."Alone".



* Female rapper Music/MissyElliott is very open about her faith, including at least one Christian song on every album. However, her music (while still sneaking Christian references in here or there) is hardly what you would call "Christian rap."

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* Female rapper Music/MissyElliott is very open about her faith, including at least one Christian song on every album. However, her music (while still sneaking Christian references in here or there) is hardly what you would call "Christian rap." rap".



* Music/AsILayDying might just be the saddest example of this trope in history. The band, for the longest time, was considered Christian metal, with bandmembers frequently affirming their beliefs in interviews and even encouraging fans to pray after shows. Unfortunately, numerous accounts of legal trouble combined with major bouts of depression led vocalist Tim Lambesis to publically state that, by the time their most recent album was released, none of the members considered themselves Christians any longer but still kept up the image in order to sell records and avoid alienating the Christian portion of the fanbase. However, guitarist Nick Hipa called Lambesis' claims false and slanderous.
* TheElectricPrunes were a fairly typical psychedelic band from the late 1960s, when they made the rather unusual decision to write "Mass In F Minor", a psychedelic setting of the Latin Mass. Okay. It's best known today for being on the soundtrack of ''Film/EasyRider''.
* OneRepublic, while not being a Christian band, has Christian members. References to God and faith appear in some of their songs. The music video for Counting Stars also takes place at a Christian Revival in New Orleans.

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* Music/AsILayDying might just be the saddest example of this trope in history. The band, for the longest time, was considered Christian metal, with bandmembers band members frequently affirming their beliefs in interviews and even encouraging fans to pray after shows. Unfortunately, numerous accounts of legal trouble combined with major bouts of depression led vocalist Tim Lambesis to publically publicly state that, by the time their most recent album was released, none of the members considered themselves Christians any longer but still kept up the image in order to sell records and avoid alienating the Christian portion of the fanbase. However, guitarist Nick Hipa called Lambesis' claims false and slanderous.
* TheElectricPrunes Music/TheElectricPrunes were a fairly typical psychedelic band from the late 1960s, when they made the rather unusual decision to write "Mass In F Minor", a psychedelic setting of the Latin Mass. Okay. It's best known today for being on the soundtrack of ''Film/EasyRider''.
* OneRepublic, Music/OneRepublic, while not being a Christian band, has Christian members. References to God and faith appear in some of their songs. The music video for Counting Stars "Counting Stars" also takes place at a Christian Revival in New Orleans.



* Russian rock/metal band Чёрный Кофе(Black Coffee) is often mislabeled as a Christian metal band on various English-speaking websites. They're not quite a Christian band- they do have lyrics about spirituality and nature, however, and consider themselves to be "white metal"(which was used as one of their album titles).

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* Russian rock/metal band Чёрный Кофе(Black Кофе (Black Coffee) is often mislabeled as a Christian metal band on various English-speaking websites. They're not quite a Christian band- they do have lyrics about spirituality and nature, however, and consider themselves to be "white metal"(which metal" (which was used as one of their album titles).



* Melodic Hardcore band Being as an Ocean's frontman Joel Quartuccio is a Christian (to the point of even referring to himself on his Instagram as "God Filled. Hate Free.") and the band has ''many'' lyrics referring to God and spirituality, often quoting TheBible and even releasing an entire album called "Dear G-d", but have stated that they are not a Christian band and make their music for people of all beliefs. It's worth noting many of their songs also express some unorthodox theologies, one song is just a recording of a monologue by the non-Christian Ghandi titled "On God" set to music, another seems to reject the concept of Hell and calls for universal salvation.

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* Melodic Hardcore band Being as an Ocean's frontman Joel Quartuccio is a Christian (to the point of even referring to himself on his Instagram as "God Filled. Hate Free.") and the band has ''many'' lyrics referring to God and spirituality, often quoting TheBible and even releasing an entire album called "Dear G-d", but have stated that they are not a Christian band and make their music for people of all beliefs. It's worth noting many of their songs also express some unorthodox theologies, one song is just a recording of a monologue by the non-Christian Ghandi [[UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi Gandhi]] titled "On God" set to music, another seems to reject the concept of Hell and calls for universal salvation.
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