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4th Sep '17 9:21:23 PM Peteman
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** Another episode brutally [[AvertedTrope averted]] it by depicting the crew as living in pre-Civil Rights Movement New York. Racism, sexism, and police corruption and brutality are portrayed as ever-present threats and the word "[[PrecisionFStrike nigger]]" is used to shocking effect for a TV show that aired on prime time in the 90s. The episode's ending leaves it ambiguous over whether or not it was OnlyADream.

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** Another episode brutally [[AvertedTrope averted]] it by depicting the crew as living in pre-Civil Rights Movement New York. Racism, sexism, and police corruption and brutality are portrayed as ever-present threats and the word "[[PrecisionFStrike nigger]]" is used to shocking effect for a TV show that aired on prime time in the 90s. The episode's ending leaves it ambiguous over whether or not it was OnlyADream.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' is a whole show built around this trope. It's both a love letter to and a brutal {{Deconstruction}} of 60's animation and UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} comic books, and takes pains to illustrate "No, the 60's weren't necessarily the paradise people built it up to be." The flashback scenes almost always contain DeliberateValuesDissonance, such as shocking instances of casual racism or misogyny that were deemed perfectly okay back then.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' is a whole show built around this trope. It's both a love letter to and a brutal {{Deconstruction}} of 60's animation and UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} comic books, and takes pains to illustrate "No, the 60's weren't necessarily the paradise people built it up to be." The flashback scenes almost always contain DeliberateValuesDissonance, such as shocking instances of casual racism or misogyny that were deemed perfectly okay back then.
31st Aug '17 5:00:05 AM HalcyonDayz
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** TheEighties: Oh yes. A great decade for pop culture after the sordid 70s and before everything went to the gutter: Everybody felt a bright future coming along, as demonstrated by good TV shows, groundbreaking technology, computers and videogames, colorful clothing, simple yet catchy pop music and finally a TV channel that showed your favorite bands 24/7. The Cold War came to an end, the Berlin Wall and Apartheid fell. (Not taken in account: The early 1980s had many people fear the Cold War wasn't going to end well. President Reagan wanted more nuclear missiles in Europe, envisioned the Star Wars defense system and the "Evil Empire" speech reflected the "Red Scare" at a time "the Bomb" was making everybody nervous. The Cold War, Berlin Wall and Apartheid did fall, but only near the end of the decade. Unemployment and economic crisis were a huge problem in many Western countries and the high speculation led to a bubble which fatigued in 1987 and burst in 1989. AIDS caused many victims because governments were slow to inform the general public on this disease as most people at first dismissed as ''just'' a problem for blacks, gays and drug users. TV shows and movies were extremely escapist and PCs and video games were prohibitively expensive. MTV did bring music videos on TV, but the downside was that how a pop star looked and danced became more important than the music, which was now created by computers, becoming increasingly sappy and repetitive as samples became the norm, becoming a disadvantage for those who still wanted to use actual instruments, chords and tunes. Metal and rap were seen as crime-mongering and even "satanic" as a whole. Also drugs went artificial during this time, turning Florida into a CrapsaccharineWorld. The nuclear power plant explosion in Chernobyl caused another major fear among people about the dangers of nuclear power.)

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** TheEighties: Oh yes. A great decade for pop culture after the sordid 70s and before everything went to the gutter: Everybody felt a bright future coming along, as demonstrated by good TV shows, groundbreaking technology, computers and videogames, colorful clothing, simple yet catchy pop music and finally a TV channel that showed your favorite bands 24/7. The Cold War came to an end, the Berlin Wall and Apartheid fell. (Not taken in account: The early 1980s had many people fear the Cold War wasn't going to end well. President Reagan wanted more nuclear missiles in Europe, envisioned the Star Wars defense system and the "Evil Empire" speech reflected the "Red Scare" at a time "the Bomb" was making everybody nervous. The Cold War, Berlin Wall and Apartheid did fall, but only near the end of the decade. Unemployment and economic crisis were a huge problem in many Western countries and the high speculation led to a bubble which fatigued in 1987 and burst in 1989. AIDS caused many victims because governments were slow to inform the general public on this disease as most people at first dismissed as ''just'' a problem for blacks, gays and drug users. TV shows and movies were extremely escapist and PCs [=PCs=] and video games were prohibitively expensive. MTV did bring music videos on TV, but the downside was that how a pop star looked and danced became more important than the music, which was now created by computers, becoming increasingly sappy and repetitive as samples became the norm, becoming a disadvantage for those who still wanted to use actual instruments, chords and tunes. Metal and rap were seen as crime-mongering and even "satanic" as a whole. Also drugs went artificial during this time, turning Florida into a CrapsaccharineWorld. The nuclear power plant explosion in Chernobyl caused another major fear among people about the dangers of nuclear power.)
29th Jul '17 5:05:16 PM ShaiPa
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* The ''Website/CollegeHumor'' clip, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can71sF-eOY "Remember When Nostalgia Was Good"]] (quoted above) [[{{Satire}} satirizes]] this trope.

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* The ''Website/CollegeHumor'' clip, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can71sF-eOY "Remember When Nostalgia Was Good"]] (quoted above) [[DiscussedTrope discusses]] and [[{{Satire}} satirizes]] this trope.
6th Jul '17 11:18:18 PM CheeseDogX
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* Thoroughly deconstructed in ''Series/PennAndTellerBullshit'' where over the top nostalgia was presented as being at best misguided (the fans of ''Series/LeaveItToBeaver'' preferring TheFifties to modern life) to actually harmful and an indicator of psychological problems.

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* Thoroughly deconstructed in ''Series/PennAndTellerBullshit'' where over the top nostalgia was presented as being at best misguided (the fans of ''Series/LeaveItToBeaver'' preferring TheFifties to modern life) to actually harmful and an indicator of psychological problems. They show this by having the aforementioned fans meet the man who played Eddie Haskell. They gush about how great the 50s were, and then he reminds them of things like segregation and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
20th May '17 7:08:11 PM nombretomado
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* ''ComicBook/{{Planetary}}'' subverts this trope at one point; one issue takes them to a funeral for an {{Expy}} of [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]] which is attended by other homages to the VertigoComics characters of the 1980s and 1990s. Although Jakita is a passionate champion of them, the AffectionateParody nature of the scene is pointedly undercut when Elijah bluntly points out that, divorced of their original political and social contexts, they can't help but look a bit ridiculous. Jakita is forced to concede that he has a point.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Planetary}}'' subverts this trope at one point; one issue takes them to a funeral for an {{Expy}} of [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]] which is attended by other homages to the VertigoComics Creator/VertigoComics characters of the 1980s and 1990s. Although Jakita is a passionate champion of them, the AffectionateParody nature of the scene is pointedly undercut when Elijah bluntly points out that, divorced of their original political and social contexts, they can't help but look a bit ridiculous. Jakita is forced to concede that he has a point.
6th Apr '17 4:06:03 PM KizunaTallis
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* Savagely mocked in [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/even-better-than-the-real-thing this]] ''Series/TheDailyShow'' clip, in which John Oliver satirizes conservative pundits harking back to a simpler, better America than the one they believe is being ruined. After interviewing several people from each of the periods that pundits such as Creator/GlennBeck, Sean Hannity and Creator/BillOReilly grew up in which they discuss how things weren't really that great, Oliver comes to the conclusion that the reason these pundits constantly look back to and reference these times as happier and less complicated is because they were children then, and the world usually seems happier and less complicated when you're a child.

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* Savagely mocked in [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/even-better-than-the-real-thing this]] ''Series/TheDailyShow'' clip, in which John Oliver satirizes conservative pundits harking back to a simpler, better America than the one they believe is being ruined. After interviewing several people from each of the periods that pundits such as Creator/GlennBeck, Radio/GlennBeck, Sean Hannity and Creator/BillOReilly grew up in which they discuss how things weren't really that great, Oliver comes to the conclusion that the reason these pundits constantly look back to and reference these times as happier and less complicated is because they were children then, and the world usually seems happier and less complicated when you're a child.



* The ''Website/CollegeHumor clip'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can71sF-eOY “Remember When Nostalgia Was Good”]] (quoted above) [[{{Satire}} satirizes]] this trope.
* Pretty much the entire point of WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic and WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] this trope. It's argued, however, that all they really do is deconstruct it for what they ''don't like''.

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* The ''Website/CollegeHumor clip'', ''Website/CollegeHumor'' clip, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can71sF-eOY “Remember "Remember When Nostalgia Was Good”]] Good"]] (quoted above) [[{{Satire}} satirizes]] this trope.
* Pretty much the The entire point of WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic and WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick is [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] this trope. It's argued, however, that all they really do is deconstruct it for what they ''don't like''.



* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' did an [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-we-need-to-stop-feeling-nostalgic-for/ article]] where Adam Tod Brown outlined things people needed to stop feeling nostalgic for. They included Cassette tapes (Impossible to fast forward accurately and easy to break), mom and pop stores (How many people actually use them?), talking instead of text messaging, and neighbourhood crime (That's right, there are actually people who think being able to walk through the streets of Manhattan without the very real fear of death is a step down from the old days).

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* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' did an [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-we-need-to-stop-feeling-nostalgic-for/ article]] where Adam Tod Brown outlined things people needed to stop feeling nostalgic for. They included Cassette tapes (Impossible to fast forward accurately and easy to break), mom and pop stores (How many people actually use them?), talking instead of text messaging, and neighbourhood neighborhood crime (That's right, there are actually people who think being able to walk through the streets of Manhattan without the very real fear of death is a step down from the old days).



* The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Member Berries" has the titular berries, which are grapes that keep talking about how great something from the past was (primarily Star Wars references) used to help alleviate the stress of today. However, after a while they talk about how great things like how marriage being exclusive to men and women were, to the disgust of Randy. It turns out that they're central to Season 20's StoryArc: They intend to use unchecked nostalgia and the CreativeSterility it induces/encourages to convince people to vote for the hideously underqualified Mr. Garrison as the President of the United States in order to ruin the world, a parody of both Creator/DonaldTrump's presidential campaign and the tendency of mainstream pop culture in TheNewTens to be built around adaptations, sequels, remakes, reboots, and {{Genre Throwback}}s instead of fresh concepts due to laziness and greed.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Member Berries" has the titular berries, which are talking grapes that keep talking spout off about how great something from the past was (primarily Star Wars ''Star Wars'' references) used to help alleviate the stress of today. However, after a while they talk about how great things like how marriage being exclusive to men and women were, to the disgust of Randy. It turns out that they're central to Season 20's StoryArc: They intend to use unchecked nostalgia and the CreativeSterility it induces/encourages to convince people to vote for the hideously underqualified unqualified Mr. Garrison as the President of the United States in order to ruin the world, a parody of both Creator/DonaldTrump's presidential campaign and the tendency of mainstream pop culture in TheNewTens to be built around adaptations, sequels, remakes, reboots, and {{Genre Throwback}}s instead of fresh concepts due to laziness and greed.
6th Apr '17 3:47:55 PM KizunaTallis
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* Savagely mocked in [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/even-better-than-the-real-thing this]] ''Series/TheDailyShow'' clip, in which John Oliver satirizes conservative pundits harking back to a simpler, better America than the one they believe is being ruined. After interviewing several people from each of the periods that pundits such as GlennBeck, Sean Hannity and Creator/BillOReilly grew up in which they discuss how things weren't really that great, Oliver claims that the reason these pundits constantly look back to and reference these times as happier and less complicated is because they were children then, and the world usually seems happier and less complicated when you're a child.

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* Savagely mocked in [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/even-better-than-the-real-thing this]] ''Series/TheDailyShow'' clip, in which John Oliver satirizes conservative pundits harking back to a simpler, better America than the one they believe is being ruined. After interviewing several people from each of the periods that pundits such as GlennBeck, Creator/GlennBeck, Sean Hannity and Creator/BillOReilly grew up in which they discuss how things weren't really that great, Oliver claims comes to the conclusion that the reason these pundits constantly look back to and reference these times as happier and less complicated is because they were children then, and the world usually seems happier and less complicated when you're a child.
31st Mar '17 2:51:40 PM nombretomado
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* Savagely mocked in [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/even-better-than-the-real-thing this]] ''Series/TheDailyShow'' clip, in which John Oliver satirizes conservative pundits harking back to a simpler, better America than the one they believe is being ruined. After interviewing several people from each of the periods that pundits such as GlennBeck, Sean Hannity and BillOReilly grew up in which they discuss how things weren't really that great, Oliver claims that the reason these pundits constantly look back to and reference these times as happier and less complicated is because they were children then, and the world usually seems happier and less complicated when you're a child.

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* Savagely mocked in [[http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-5-2010/even-better-than-the-real-thing this]] ''Series/TheDailyShow'' clip, in which John Oliver satirizes conservative pundits harking back to a simpler, better America than the one they believe is being ruined. After interviewing several people from each of the periods that pundits such as GlennBeck, Sean Hannity and BillOReilly Creator/BillOReilly grew up in which they discuss how things weren't really that great, Oliver claims that the reason these pundits constantly look back to and reference these times as happier and less complicated is because they were children then, and the world usually seems happier and less complicated when you're a child.
8th Mar '17 1:34:17 PM mkmckoy
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* The ''Website/CollegeHumor clip'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can71sF-eOY “Remember When Nostalgia Was Good”]] (quoted above) thoroughly [[DiscussedTrope discusses]] and [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs this trope]].

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* The ''Website/CollegeHumor clip'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can71sF-eOY “Remember When Nostalgia Was Good”]] (quoted above) thoroughly [[DiscussedTrope discusses]] and [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs [[{{Satire}} satirizes]] this trope]].trope.
23rd Feb '17 5:13:09 AM BrendanRizzo
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This trope is not nearly as awesome today as it was in past centuries. For example, to Creator/{{Stendhal}} (1783-1842), everything went downhill after the fall of Napoleon; Gibbon thought the world went to hell [[ExaggeratedTrope after the death of Marcus Aurelius, in 180 AD.]] Creator/{{Hesiod}} insisted things had been going wrong at least since the invention of ''iron''. Even ancient Sumer has clay tablets dating to around 2500 B.C. with similar complaints, making it OlderThanDirt

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This trope is not nearly as awesome today as it was in past centuries. For example, to Creator/{{Stendhal}} (1783-1842), everything went downhill after the fall of Napoleon; Gibbon Napoleon, but at least he lived through Napoleon's reign, unlike Gibbon, who thought the world went to hell [[ExaggeratedTrope after the death of Marcus Aurelius, in 180 AD.]] Creator/{{Hesiod}} insisted things had been going wrong at least since the invention of ''iron''. Even ancient Sumer has clay tablets dating to around 2500 B.C. with similar complaints, making it OlderThanDirt
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