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1st May '18 8:15:49 PM LittleDancerGirl
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* The Dominion from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' are led by the "Founders", a race of reclusive changelings. The only thing they do personally is infiltrate their enemies (being shapeshifters, they're uniquely suited for this role); for everything else, they just pull the strings.

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* The Dominion from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' are led by the "Founders", a race of reclusive changelings. The only thing they do personally is infiltrate their enemies (being shapeshifters, they're uniquely suited for this role); for everything else, they just pull the strings.strings and use their most loyal armies as enforcers against the others.
1st May '18 8:14:41 PM LittleDancerGirl
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* The Dominion from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' are led by the "Founders", a race of reclusive changelings. The only thing they do personally is infiltrate their enemies (being shapeshifters, they're uniquely suited for this role); everything else they leave to their genetically-engineered fighters or the various armies they control. Not that they don't have plenty of them.

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* The Dominion from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' are led by the "Founders", a race of reclusive changelings. The only thing they do personally is infiltrate their enemies (being shapeshifters, they're uniquely suited for this role); for everything else else, they leave to their genetically-engineered fighters or just pull the various armies they control. Not that they don't have plenty of them.strings.
1st May '18 8:13:47 PM LittleDancerGirl
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* The Dominion from ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' are led by the "Founders", a race of reclusive changelings. The only thing they do personally is infiltrate their enemies (being shapeshifters, they're uniquely suited for this role); everything else they leave to their genetically-engineered fighters or the various armies they control. Not that they don't have plenty of them.
27th Mar '18 9:34:55 AM Slaugth324
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': Walter White becomes this toward the end of the series after he assumes the role of Big Bad. Being an older man with no combat or shooting experience dying of lung cancer means he's useless in a fight and can be taken out by his own protege, the short, string-beaned Jesse Pinkman. Walt uses this in his favor at points as more dangerous drug lords consistently underestimate him through the series; his intelligence, chemical knowledge, and cunning make him far more dangerous than you'd think.

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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': Walter White becomes this toward the end of the series after he assumes the role of Big Bad. Being an older man with no combat or shooting experience dying of lung cancer means he's useless in a fight and can be taken out by his own protege, the short, string-beaned Jesse Pinkman. Walt uses this in his favor at points as more dangerous drug lords consistently underestimate him through the series; his intelligence, chemical knowledge, knowledge of chemistry and engineering, and cunning make him far more dangerous than you'd think.
20th Mar '18 10:22:49 AM JoeMerl
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* The OverarchingVillain in ''Franchise/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica,'' [[spoiler:Kyubey]], may be an [[AboveGoodAndEvil amoral]] ManipulativeBastard, but he doesn't really have any sort of battle ability; in fact, he gets killed pretty easily. [[ResurrectiveImmortality Multiple times]].

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* The OverarchingVillain in of ''Franchise/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica,'' [[spoiler:Kyubey]], may be an [[AboveGoodAndEvil amoral]] ManipulativeBastard, but he doesn't really have any sort of battle ability; in fact, he gets killed pretty easily. [[ResurrectiveImmortality [[ImmortalLifeIsCheap Multiple times]].
20th Mar '18 10:21:45 AM JoeMerl
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* [[spoiler:Kyubey,]] the OverarchingVillain in ''Franchise/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica.'' They never ''actively'' bring the girls into harm, they simply [[spoiler:gave the girl their wishes and let them fight [[MonsterOfTheWeek witches]] as {{magical girl}}s as payment]]. There are only two reasons to consider it a villain at all: it doesn't value individual human life at all (and [[EvilCannotComprehendGood doesn't even understand the idea]]), and [[spoiler: [[ManBehindTheMan is directly or indirectly responsible for everything bad that happens in the series]]]]. The reason it's all arguable is that [[spoiler:he's doing it to prevent [[ApocalypseHow universal destruction due to entropy]]]]. A more "traditional" BigBad is [[TheDreaded Walpurgisnacht]], but she is [[GenericDoomsdayVillain more of a force of nature than a true enemy]].

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* [[spoiler:Kyubey,]] the The OverarchingVillain in ''Franchise/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica.'' They never ''actively'' bring the girls into harm, they simply [[spoiler:gave the girl their wishes and let them fight [[MonsterOfTheWeek witches]] as {{magical girl}}s as payment]]. There are only two reasons to consider it a villain at all: it ''Franchise/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica,'' [[spoiler:Kyubey]], may be an [[AboveGoodAndEvil amoral]] ManipulativeBastard, but he doesn't value individual human life at all (and [[EvilCannotComprehendGood doesn't even understand the idea]]), and [[spoiler: [[ManBehindTheMan is directly or indirectly responsible for everything bad that happens really have any sort of battle ability; in the series]]]]. The reason it's all arguable is that [[spoiler:he's doing it to prevent [[ApocalypseHow universal destruction due to entropy]]]]. A more "traditional" BigBad is [[TheDreaded Walpurgisnacht]], but she is [[GenericDoomsdayVillain more of a force of nature than a true enemy]].fact, he gets killed pretty easily. [[ResurrectiveImmortality Multiple times]].
18th Mar '18 12:42:10 PM ClownPrince47
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* A couple examples in the ''Fanfic/RubyAndNora'' series:
** ''Ruby's Birthday'': Admah Keter downplays it. He's a SerialKiller who prefers to kill his own prey, but he only does it when he can ambush them. He stands no chance in a straight-up fight [[spoiler:as Pyrrha and Yang prove]].
** ''Weiss and Pyrrha'': [[spoiler: Nurse Abigail Lemon is an Angel of Death SerialKiller and only kills with hospital drugs and her {{EMP}} Semblance. She avoids a straight-up fight with [[TheAce Pyrrha]] and only kills from the shadows during the final confrontation. When Pyrrha starts deflecting bullets with her magnetism Semblance, Abby panics since she has no fighting ability whatsoever.]]
* In ''Fanfic/AnEmeraldUnearthed'', Randall Silva is a ruthless LoanShark who usually leaves the physical work to his grunts. He does personally shoot people's loved ones when they fail to pay up, but that's the most action he gets. [[spoiler: When he gets held hostage by Emerald, he is utterly helpless.]]
13th Mar '18 12:22:15 PM mkmlp
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* Cutler Becket from the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies. He loves to sit and enjoy his tea while he watches his armies fight against the pirates. [[AllThereInTheManual According to secondary materials]] he is an expert swordsman but never gets the chance to show it in the films.
* Dieter von Cunth in ''Film/MacGruber'', for all his fearsome reputation, just stands there and gets his ass kicked when the finale comes.
* Sauron from ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' film series is a partial case. He does come out, and he DOES do some major damage in the prologue against the Last Alliance, until he's deprived of his RingOfPower. But he never comes out to play again during the main story arc; in the film explicitly because his form has been reduced to just an eye on his tower.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Grand Moff Tarkin in ''Film/ANewHope'', in a prime example of the films' EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. Although he commands [[ThatsNoMoon the Death Star]] and leads the hunt for the Rebels, he's just a bureaucrat and lacks any sort of Force power, in stark contrast to the major villains of the other movies and the saga in general.
** Jabba the Hutt from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' serves as a DiscOneFinalBoss version of this, a [[FatBastard massive]] gangster who can't even move from his throne and is so inept at the physical stuff that Leia simply strangles him with the chain he was using [[GoGoEnslavement to enslave her]].
** Memorably subverted with TheEmperor, who projects an image (both to the audience and to Luke) of being a helpless feeble old (even using a cane that [[ObfuscatingDisability he doesn't need]]) man who needs [[TheDragon Darth Vader]] to fight for him. Then he busts out the [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]]. The same applies in the prequels (which take place before he was the Emperor), where he manipulates things behind the scenes and lets his subordinates do the actual fighting. When he's forced to actually get into a fight, however, he's shown to be a LightningBruiser able to kill several Jedi masters in seconds, even without using Force Lighting.
* Pretty much every ''Film/JamesBond'' villain relies on TheDragon, TheBrute, or just a GiantMook to present a physical threat to Bond, while they provide the resources and ideas. There are some exceptions though; [[spoiler:Alec Trevelyan]] in ''Film/GoldenEye'' is a match for Bond, being [[spoiler:a former [=MI6=] agent himself.]]
** Ernst Stavro Blofeld, 007's biggest ArchEnemy, usually relays his orders to his {{Mooks}} while sitting on his CoolChair and stroking his RightHandCat, but when he decided to join the fray and take a more active role in ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService'', ''[[KnightOfCerebus things really got uglier]]''.

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* Cutler Becket from the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies. He loves to sit and enjoy his tea while he watches his armies fight against the pirates. [[AllThereInTheManual According to secondary materials]] he The Big Bad of ''Film/TheAccountant'' [[spoiler: Lamar Blackburn]] is an expert swordsman but never gets the chance to show it in the films.
* Dieter von Cunth in ''Film/MacGruber'', for all his fearsome reputation, just stands there and gets his ass kicked when the finale comes.
* Sauron from ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' film series is a partial case. He does come out, and he DOES do some major damage in the prologue against the Last Alliance, until he's deprived of his RingOfPower. But he never comes out to play again during the main story arc; in the film explicitly because his form has been reduced to just an eye on his tower.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Grand Moff Tarkin in ''Film/ANewHope'', in a prime example of the films' EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. Although he commands [[ThatsNoMoon the Death Star]] and leads the hunt for the Rebels, he's
just a bureaucrat and lacks any sort of Force power, in stark contrast to the major villains of the other movies and the saga in general.
** Jabba the Hutt from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' serves as a DiscOneFinalBoss version of this, a [[FatBastard massive]] gangster
Corrupt Corporate Executive who can't even move from his throne and is so inept at the physical stuff that Leia simply strangles him with the chain he was using [[GoGoEnslavement to enslave her]].
** Memorably subverted with TheEmperor, who projects an image (both to the audience and to Luke) of being a helpless feeble old (even using a cane that [[ObfuscatingDisability he
doesn't need]]) man who needs even try to confront Wolf on his own, instead leaving him to [[TheDragon Darth Vader]] to fight for him. Then he busts Braxton]] and his mercenaries. [[spoiler: But after [[Heel–Face Turn Braxton figures out the [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]]. The same applies in the prequels (which take place before he was the Emperor), where he manipulates things behind the scenes Wolf is his long lost brother and lets changes side]], Blackburn is left completely defenseless and Wolf unceremoniously blows his subordinates do the actual fighting. When he's forced to actually get into a fight, however, he's shown to be a LightningBruiser able to kill several Jedi masters in seconds, even brains out without using Force Lighting.
* Pretty much every ''Film/JamesBond'' villain relies on TheDragon, TheBrute, or just a GiantMook to present a physical threat to Bond, while they provide the resources and ideas. There are some exceptions though; [[spoiler:Alec Trevelyan]] in ''Film/GoldenEye'' is a match for Bond, being [[spoiler:a former [=MI6=] agent himself.]]
** Ernst Stavro Blofeld, 007's biggest ArchEnemy, usually relays his orders to his {{Mooks}} while sitting on his CoolChair and stroking his RightHandCat, but when he decided to join the fray and take a more active role in ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService'', ''[[KnightOfCerebus things really got uglier]]''.
second thought]].



* ''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'':
** Alan Rikkin is an administrator and a speech giver; not a fighter. When [[spoiler: the Assassins start a prison riot]] he immediately leaves.
** Tomás de Torquemada has no fighting skills. [[TheDragon Ojeda is his sole rampart]] when Aguilar and Maria ambush him inside the Alhambra chamber where Muhammad XII kept the Apple of Eden.
* Every BigBad in ''Film/TheBourneSeries'' counts.
** Alexander Conklin from ''Film/TheBourneIdentity'' spends the film sending agents after Bourne from the safety of his control room. When Bourne confronts Conklin in personal, Conklin makes sure to surround himself with bodyguards. When Bourne defeats Conklin's bodyguards, he is about to knock out Conklin effortlessly. Conklin survives, but is then unceremoniously shot on the orders of his superiors.
** Ward Abbott from ''Film/TheBourneSupremacy'' forges evidence against Bourne and manipulates the authorities into going after Bourne. Although Abbott does kill an unsuspecting underling himself, when Bourne confronts Abbott in person, Abbot doesn't even attempt to fight back.
** Noah Vosen from ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' spends most of the film either spying on Bourne and his allies to predict his next move, or sending assassins to kill them. Vosen does shoot at Bourne at the end of the film as a last ditch effort to prevent his escape, but fails miserably. Vosen's superiors, Dr. Albert Hirsch and CIA Director Ezra Kramer, also qualify for this trope in ''Ultimatum''.
** Eric Byer from ''Film/TheBourneLegacy'' is only seen out in the field in one scene that took place years earlier, and even then he's out of the action. During ''Legacy'', he either spends his time in NRAG's office or in a crisis suite, hundreds of miles from the film's conflict.
** Dewey from ''Film/JasonBourne'' in particular may not be a physical threat, but he is the head of the CIA and this gives him a massive amount of men and money. He used this to have Bourne's father killed, and arranges for the death of several characters. He is also an expert smooth talker, capable of getting Jason to stand down, and is the closest any villain in the series comes to killing Bourne.
* King Edward "Longshanks" from ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' commands his armies from the sidelines instead of fighting in battles personally. The closest thing Longshanks gets to fighting is when he throws an advisor out the window and beats his own son. When William Wallace confronts Longshanks personally, Longshanks flees to safety.
* ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'':
** Carter Verone in ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' mostly relied on his brains and left his henchmen to be the brawn. Although he does try to kill heroes with a shotgun in the climax, Bryan manages to shoot him in the shoulder first and he puts up no further resistance. Even [[GracefulLoser accepting his defeat with dignity and giving the heroes a smile]], as customs agents are taking him away.
** In ''Film/FastAndFurious'' (the fourth film), we have Braga, who despite being a ''very'' SmugSnake who boasts that he clawed his way up from the slums, puts up no resistance once the heroes get the drop on him, beyond trying to convince Dom they are NotSoDifferent and spends the climax bragging that his men are going to kill them once they catch up, until Bryan gives him a very satisfying elbow to the face. When Braga turns up again in the sixth installment, he arrogantly confronts Bryan like he's invincible, while he has couple goons with shivs to back him up. But as soon as they're dispatched, Bryan finally wipes that smug look off his face, as Braga can do nothing but [[DirtyCoward beg for his life, until he gives Bryan the information he was after]].
** Despite being a drug lord, Hernan Reyes in ''Film/FastFive'' is a CorruptCorporateExecutive and the only time he kills anyone personally, [[YouHaveFailedMe is when executing one his own men.]] Instead, Reyes relies on his {{mooks}}, money, and the heavily corrupt Rio Police Department to throw at the heroes, and when [[spoiler: [[ItMakesSenseInContext a giant steel vault is flung into his car]], he can only crawl out and beg for mercy, before Hobs puts a few bullets in him.]]



* Dick Jones from ''Film/RoboCop1987''. Aside from [[spoiler:trying to take the Old Man hostage]], he never even attempts to harm anyone directly, instead using his [[MechaMooks ED-209 drones]] and [[PetRat Clarence Boddicker]].



* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in ''Film/{{Unbreakable}}'', where the mother of Elijah Price, a comic art gallery owner, mentions the "soldier villain", basically an EliteMook who fights with his fists, and the mastermind villain, who plots and plans and is often much more dangerous. David Dunn, the NighInvulnerable protagonist, runs into the film's BigBad, who is an example of the latter, pretty much immediately afterwards. [[spoiler: It turns out to be Elijah.]]

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* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in ''Film/{{Unbreakable}}'', where the mother of Elijah Price, Commodus from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' is a comic art gallery owner, mentions the "soldier villain", basically an EliteMook DirtyCoward who fights with has no combat experience apart from killing his fists, deathly ill father to become Emperor. He relies on his countless soldiers to carry out his evil deeds, and the mastermind villain, who plots and plans and is often much more dangerous. David Dunn, the NighInvulnerable protagonist, runs sends his best gladiators into the film's BigBad, who is arena in an example of attempt to kill TheHero Maximus. When Maximus goads Commodus into fighting him in the latter, arena, Commodus stabs a restrained Maximus in order to win the fight unfairly. [[spoiler:Commodus still loses]].
* In ''Franchise/{{Hellraiser}}'', Leviathan, despite being extremely powerful in it's home dimension, relies on Pinhead and the other Cenobites to travel to Earth to capture souls on its behalf.
* Pretty much every ''Film/JamesBond'' villain relies on TheDragon, TheBrute, or just a GiantMook to present a physical threat to Bond, while they provide the resources and ideas. There are some exceptions though; [[spoiler:Alec Trevelyan]] in ''Film/GoldenEye'' is a match for Bond, being [[spoiler:a former [=MI6=] agent himself.]]
** Ernst Stavro Blofeld, 007's biggest ArchEnemy, usually relays his orders to his {{Mooks}} while sitting on his CoolChair and stroking his RightHandCat, but when he decided to join the fray and take a more active role in ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService'', ''[[KnightOfCerebus things really got uglier]]''.
* Balem only has one fight in ''Film/JupiterAscending'', and he loses
pretty much immediately afterwards. easily. Even Jupiter, who gets abducted or taken hostage by ''everyone'' in the film, can easily defeat Balem once they're in a one-on-one fight.
* Valentine from ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService''. He has no stomach for blood or violence, and he's a feeble techie to begin with, so he lets [[DarkActionGirl Gazelle]] do the fighting for him.
** Poppy Adams, the sequel's main antagonist, despite being a ruthless and brutal drug lord, who has no problems
[[spoiler: It turns having one of her newest henchmen throw the recruiter in a ''meat grinder'' as a test]], she never personally gets her hands dirty, even when Eggsy and Harry have her cornered, the most she tries to do, is being [[EvilIsPetty as uncooperative as possible]].
* General Peter [=McAllister=] and Arjen Rudd from the first two ''Film/LethalWeapon'' movies. In the first movie, [=McAllister=] is able to sneak up on Riggs without the latter noticing, and is clearly proficient with firearms. He just chooses not to get his hands dirty. And in the second movie, the only time Rudd takes action is to empty an entire clip on Riggs in the climax.
* Sauron from ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' film series is a partial case. He does come out, and he DOES do some major damage in the prologue against the Last Alliance, until he's deprived of his RingOfPower. But he never comes
out to be Elijah.]]play again during the main story arc; in the film explicitly because his form has been reduced to just an eye on his tower.
* Dieter von Cunth in ''Film/MacGruber'', for all his fearsome reputation, just stands there and gets his ass kicked when the finale comes.



* {{Downplayed}} in ''Film/MissionImpossibleRogueNation''. Solomon Lane is the only villain in the series that doesn't engage in hand-to-hand combat with Ethan. Nonetheless, he usually makes an effort to be on-site whenever an EvilPlan is being carried out, even if his minions are doing the actual work, just to make sure everything goes according to plan. [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking He is also a decent shot and sometimes carries out murders on his own]]. [[spoiler: In the finale, he chases Ethan down [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Terminator-style]], only to find he was lured into a trap and is captured.]]
* Film/MurderParty: Alexander never once lifts a finger to participate in any of the conflicts that happen during the film, playing instead with his cellphone nonchalantly both when [[spoiler: the rest of the group hunt Chris armed and dangerous ( well apart from Lexi)]] and even more dumbfoundingly [[spoiler: when Zycho attempts to murder them all and Lexi tackles him and Macon lands him the killing blow.]]



* All three [[BigBad Big Bads]] in the ''Film/{{Taken}}'' trilogy are this, with the [[TheDragon second-to-last villain]] putting up a big fight with [[RetiredBadass Bryan]] [[Creator/LiamNeeson Mills]] near the end of each movie.
** The first film has three different characters that can qualify for the BigBad, (the guy who actually kidnapped his the hero's daughter, the man auctioning off the women, and the sheek who buys her) ''non of which'' put up a fight, with only the first one actually trying to resist and the third making a feeble attempt to take his daughter hostage.
** Murad in ''Film/Taken2'', despite the plot being about his own [[ItsPersonal personal revenge]] against Bryan Mills, he does absolutely none of the physical work beyond slapping Bryan while they had him captive and without his goons to the killing, he is completely defenseless. When Murad tries to shoot Bryan in the back, after the latter tried to make peace [[spoiler: and dropped an unloaded gun to test him, Bryan kills him with one blow.]]
** In ''Film/Taken3'', after the defeating the ex-Soviet Spetsnaz and crime lord who was thought to be the man behind everything, both Bryan and the audience are treated to the revelation that, [[spoiler: Stuart St.Clare, Bryan's ex-wife's former new husband and CorruptCorporateExecutive]] with no known combat ability what so ever is the true Big Bad.
* Valentine from ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService''. He has no stomach for blood or violence, and he's a feeble techie to begin with, so he lets [[DarkActionGirl Gazelle]] do the fighting for him.
** Poppy Adams, the sequel's main antagonist, despite being a ruthless and brutal drug lord, who has no problems [[spoiler: having one of her newest henchmen throw the recruiter in a ''meat grinder'' as a test]], she never personally gets her hands dirty, even when Eggsy and Harry have her cornered, the most she tries to do, is being [[EvilIsPetty as uncooperative as possible]].
* ''Film/UnderSiege2DarkTerritory'': Travis Dane, the mastermind who hired the mercenaries and devised the plot to hijack the KillSat, isn't much of a physical threat. This is exacerbated by Ryback's InvincibleHero status, as TheDragon lasts only a few minutes in a fight against Ryback, Dane only seconds.

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* All three [[BigBad Big Bads]] Cutler Becket from the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies. He loves to sit and enjoy his tea while he watches his armies fight against the pirates. [[AllThereInTheManual According to secondary materials]] he is an expert swordsman but never gets the chance to show it in the ''Film/{{Taken}}'' trilogy are this, films.
* Dr. René Belloq from ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' is an intelligent ManipulativeBastard SmugSnake who surrounds himself
with the [[TheDragon second-to-last villain]] putting up a big fight with [[RetiredBadass Bryan]] [[Creator/LiamNeeson Mills]] near the end of each movie.
** The first film has three different characters that can qualify for the BigBad, (the guy who
his personal goons whenever he confronts Indiana Jones, but never attempts to actually kidnapped his fight him. However, without him, the hero's daughter, Nazis would have gotten nowhere. Colonel Herman Dietrich, the man auctioning off the women, and the sheek who buys her) ''non of which'' put up a fight, with only the first one actually trying to resist and the third making a feeble attempt to take his daughter hostage.
** Murad in ''Film/Taken2'', despite the plot being about his own [[ItsPersonal personal revenge]] against Bryan Mills, he does absolutely none
leader of the Nazis searching for the Ark, also qualifies. Although Dietrich looks imposing, he never does any physical work beyond slapping Bryan while they had him captive and without his goons to the killing, he is completely defenseless. When Murad tries to shoot Bryan in the back, after the latter tried to make peace [[spoiler: and dropped an unloaded gun to test him, Bryan kills him with one blow.]]
** In ''Film/Taken3'', after the defeating the ex-Soviet Spetsnaz and crime lord who was thought to be the man behind everything, both Bryan and the audience are treated to the revelation that, [[spoiler: Stuart St.Clare, Bryan's ex-wife's former new husband and CorruptCorporateExecutive]] with no known combat ability what so ever is the true Big Bad.
* Valentine
apart from ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService''. He has no stomach for blood or violence, and he's a feeble techie manhandling Marian, leaving his Nazis to begin with, so he lets [[DarkActionGirl Gazelle]] do all the fighting for him.
** Poppy Adams, the sequel's main antagonist, despite being a ruthless and brutal drug lord, who has no problems [[spoiler: having one of her newest henchmen throw the recruiter in a ''meat grinder'' as a test]], she never personally gets her hands dirty, even when Eggsy and Harry have her cornered, the most she tries to do, is being [[EvilIsPetty as uncooperative as possible]].
* ''Film/UnderSiege2DarkTerritory'': Travis Dane, the mastermind who hired the mercenaries and devised the plot to hijack the KillSat, isn't much of a physical threat. This is exacerbated by Ryback's InvincibleHero status, as TheDragon lasts only a few minutes in a fight against Ryback, Dane only seconds.
fighting.



* {{Downplayed}} in ''Film/MissionImpossibleRogueNation''. Solomon Lane is the only villain in the series that doesn't engage in hand-to-hand combat with Ethan. Nonetheless, he usually makes an effort to be on-site whenever an EvilPlan is being carried out, even if his minions are doing the actual work, just to make sure everything goes according to plan. [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking He is also a decent shot and sometimes carries out murders on his own]]. [[spoiler: In the finale, he chases Ethan down [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Terminator-style]], only to find he was lured into a trap and is captured.]]
* Balem only has one fight in ''Film/JupiterAscending'', and he loses pretty easily. Even Jupiter, who gets abducted or taken hostage by ''everyone'' in the film, can easily defeat Balem once they're in a one-on-one fight.

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* {{Downplayed}} in ''Film/MissionImpossibleRogueNation''. Solomon Lane is Dick Jones from ''Film/RoboCop1987''. Aside from [[spoiler:trying to take the Old Man hostage]], he never even attempts to harm anyone directly, instead using his [[MechaMooks ED-209 drones]] and [[PetRat Clarence Boddicker]].
* Subverted with [[MagnificentBastard Professor James Moriarty]] in ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', who seems like
only villain a thinker and not a fighter on the surface and never gets into a straight of fight with Holmes in the series film. But it is established early on, that doesn't engage he is a former college boxing champion and later in hand-to-hand combat with Ethan. Nonetheless, he usually makes an effort to be on-site whenever an EvilPlan is being carried out, even if his minions are doing the actual work, just to make sure everything goes according to plan. [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking He is also a decent shot and sometimes carries out murders on his own]]. film, he [[spoiler: In subjects Holmes to ColdBloodedTorture via ramming a hook through the finale, he chases Ethan down [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Terminator-style]], only to find he was lured into a trap latter's shoulder.]] Also, during Moriarty and Holmes's mental battle at the end of the film, both of them conclude that thanks to Holmes's [[spoiler: shoulder injury]], Moriarty would have probably won a straight up fight, between the two. [[spoiler: Luckily Holmes is captured.smart enough not to play fair.]]
* Balem only In ''Film/{{The Shining}}'', Jack Torrance has one fight in ''Film/JupiterAscending'', been sent to kill his family by the ghosts of the Overlook Hotel. The ghosts do torment the main characters with hallucinations, and he loses pretty easily. Even Jupiter, who gets abducted or taken hostage by ''everyone'' they do have some physical influence in the film, can easily defeat Balem once they're in hotel, such as when one of them bruises Danny's neck, and when the free Jack from the kitchen. However, the rely of Jack to do the killing, and when Jack dies and the family escapes the hotel, the ghosts presumably can't do a one-on-one fight.thing about it.



* In ''Film/{{The Shining}}'', Jack Torrance has been sent to kill his family by the ghosts of the Overlook Hotel. The ghosts do torment the main characters with hallucinations, and they do have some physical influence in the hotel, such as when one of them bruises Danny's neck, and when the free Jack from the kitchen. However, the rely of Jack to do the killing, and when Jack dies and the family escapes the hotel, the ghosts presumably can't do a thing about it.
* In ''Franchise/{{Hellraiser}}'', Leviathan, despite being extremely powerful in it's home dimension, relies on Pinhead and the other Cenobites to travel to Earth to capture souls on its behalf.
* Film/MurderParty: Alexander never onces lifts a finger to participate in any of the conflicts that happen during the film, playing instead with his cellphone nonchalantly both when [[spoiler: the rest of the group hunt Chris armed and dangerous ( well apart from Lexi)]] and even more dumbfoundingly [[spoiler: when Zycho attempts to murder them all and Lexi tackles him and Macon lands him the killing blow.]]
* Every BigBad in ''Film/TheBourneSeries'' counts.
** Alexander Conklin from ''Film/TheBourneIdentity'' spends the film sending agents after Bourne from the safety of his control room. When Bourne confronts Conklin in personal, Conklin makes sure to surround himself with bodyguards. When Bourne defeats Conklin's bodyguards, he is about to knock out Conklin effortlessly. Conklin survives, but is then unceremoniously shot on the orders of his superiors.
** Ward Abbott from ''Film/TheBourneSupremacy'' forges evidence against Bourne and manipulates the authorities into going after Bourne. Although Abbott does kill an unsuspecting underling himself, when Bourne confronts Abbott in person, Abbot doesn't even attempt to fight back.
** Noah Vosen from ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' spends most of the film either spying on Bourne and his allies to predict his next move, or sending assassins to kill them. Vosen does shoot at Bourne at the end of the film as a last ditch effort to prevent his escape, but fails miserably. Vosen's superiors, Dr. Albert Hirsch and CIA Director Ezra Kramer, also qualify for this trope in ''Ultimatum''.
** Eric Byer from ''Film/TheBourneLegacy'' is only seen out in the field in one scene that took place years earlier, and even then he's out of the action. During ''Legacy'', he either spends his time in NRAG's office or in a crisis suite, hundreds of miles from the film's conflict.
** Dewey from ''Film/JasonBourne'' in particular may not be a physical threat, but he is the head of the CIA and this gives him a massive amount of men and money. He used this to have Bourne's father killed, and arranges for the death of several characters. He is also an expert smooth talker, capable of getting Jason to stand down, and is the closest any villain in the series comes to killing Bourne.
* Dr. René Belloq from ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' is an intelligent ManipulativeBastard SmugSnake who surrounds himself with his personal goons whenever he confronts Indiana Jones, but never attempts to actually fight him. However, without him, the Nazis would have gotten nowhere. Colonel Herman Dietrich, the leader of the Nazis searching for the Ark, also qualifies. Although Dietrich looks imposing, he never does any physical work apart from manhandling Marian, leaving his Nazis to do all the fighting.
* King Edward "Longshanks" from ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' commands his armies from the sidelines instead of fighting in battles personally. The closest thing Longshanks gets to fighting is when he throws an advisor out the window and beats his own son. When William Wallace confronts Longshanks personally, Longshanks flees to safety.
* Commodus from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' is a DirtyCoward who has no combat experience apart from killing his deathly ill father to become Emperor. He relies on his countless soldiers to carry out his evil deeds, and sends his best gladiators into the arena in an attempt to kill TheHero Maximus. When Maximus goads Commodus into fighting him in the arena, Commodus stabs a restrained Maximus in order to win the fight unfairly. [[spoiler:Commodus still loses]].
* General Peter [=McAllister=] and Arjen Rudd from the first two ''Film/LethalWeapon'' movies. In the first movie, [=McAllister=] is able to sneak up on Riggs without the latter noticing, and is clearly proficient with firearms. He just chooses not to get his hands dirty. And in the second movie, the only time Rudd takes action is to empty an entire clip on Riggs in the climax.
* ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'':
** Carter Verone in ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' mostly relied on his brains and left his henchmen to be the brawn. Although he does try to kill heroes with a shotgun in the climax, Bryan manages to shoot him in the shoulder first and he puts up no further resistance. Even [[GracefulLoser accepting his defeat with dignity and giving the heroes a smile]], as customs agents are taking him away.
** In ''Film/FastAndFurious'' (the fourth film), we have Braga, who despite being a ''very'' SmugSnake who boasts that he clawed his way up from the slums, puts up no resistance once the heroes get the drop on him, beyond trying to convince Dom they are NotSoDifferent and spends the climax bragging that his men are going to kill them once they catch up, until Bryan gives him a very satisfying elbow to the face. When Braga turns up again in the sixth installment, he arrogantly confronts Bryan like he's invincible, while he has couple goons with shivs to back him up. But as soon as they're dispatched, Bryan finally wipes that smug look off his face, as Braga can do nothing but [[DirtyCoward beg for his life, until he gives Bryan the information he was after]].
** Despite being a drug lord, Hernan Reyes in ''Film/FastFive'' is a CorruptCorporateExecutive and the only time he kills anyone personally, [[YouHaveFailedMe is when executing one his own men.]] Instead, Reyes relies on his {{mooks}}, money, and the heavily corrupt Rio Police Department to throw at the heroes, and when [[spoiler: [[ItMakesSenseInContext a giant steel vault is flung into his car]], he can only crawl out and beg for mercy, before Hobs puts a few bullets in him.]]
* ''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'':
** Alan Rikkin is an administrator and a speech giver; not a fighter. When [[spoiler: the Assassins start a prison riot]] he immediately leaves.
** Tomás de Torquemada has no fighting skills. [[TheDragon Ojeda is his sole rampart]] when Aguilar and Maria ambush him inside the Alhambra chamber where Muhammad XII kept the Apple of Eden.

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* In ''Film/{{The Shining}}'', Jack Torrance has been sent to kill his family by the ghosts ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Grand Moff Tarkin in ''Film/ANewHope'', in a prime example
of the Overlook Hotel. The ghosts do torment films' EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. Although he commands [[ThatsNoMoon the main characters with hallucinations, Death Star]] and they do have some physical influence in leads the hotel, such as when one of them bruises Danny's neck, hunt for the Rebels, he's just a bureaucrat and when lacks any sort of Force power, in stark contrast to the free Jack from major villains of the kitchen. However, the rely of Jack to do the killing, and when Jack dies other movies and the family escapes saga in general.
** Jabba
the hotel, the ghosts presumably Hutt from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' serves as a DiscOneFinalBoss version of this, a [[FatBastard massive]] gangster who can't do a thing about it.
* In ''Franchise/{{Hellraiser}}'', Leviathan, despite
even move from his throne and is so inept at the physical stuff that Leia simply strangles him with the chain he was using [[GoGoEnslavement to enslave her]].
** Memorably subverted with TheEmperor, who projects an image (both to the audience and to Luke) of
being extremely powerful in it's home dimension, relies on Pinhead and the other Cenobites to travel to Earth to capture souls on its behalf.
* Film/MurderParty: Alexander never onces lifts
a finger to participate in any of the conflicts helpless feeble old (even using a cane that happen during [[ObfuscatingDisability he doesn't need]]) man who needs [[TheDragon Darth Vader]] to fight for him. Then he busts out the film, playing instead with [[ShockAndAwe Force Lightning]]. The same applies in the prequels (which take place before he was the Emperor), where he manipulates things behind the scenes and lets his cellphone nonchalantly both when [[spoiler: subordinates do the rest of the group hunt Chris armed and dangerous ( well apart from Lexi)]] and actual fighting. When he's forced to actually get into a fight, however, he's shown to be a LightningBruiser able to kill several Jedi masters in seconds, even more dumbfoundingly [[spoiler: when Zycho attempts to murder them all and Lexi tackles him and Macon lands him the killing blow.]]
* Every BigBad in ''Film/TheBourneSeries'' counts.
without using Force Lighting.
** Alexander Conklin from ''Film/TheBourneIdentity'' spends * All three [[BigBad Big Bads]] in the ''Film/{{Taken}}'' trilogy are this, with the [[TheDragon second-to-last villain]] putting up a big fight with [[RetiredBadass Bryan]] [[Creator/LiamNeeson Mills]] near the end of each movie.
** The first
film sending agents after Bourne from has three different characters that can qualify for the safety of BigBad, (the guy who actually kidnapped his control room. When Bourne confronts Conklin in personal, Conklin makes sure to surround himself the hero's daughter, the man auctioning off the women, and the sheek who buys her) ''non of which'' put up a fight, with bodyguards. When Bourne defeats Conklin's bodyguards, he is about to knock out Conklin effortlessly. Conklin survives, but is then unceremoniously shot on only the orders of his superiors.
** Ward Abbott from ''Film/TheBourneSupremacy'' forges evidence against Bourne
first one actually trying to resist and manipulates the authorities into going after Bourne. Although Abbott does kill an unsuspecting underling himself, when Bourne confronts Abbott in person, Abbot doesn't even third making a feeble attempt to fight back.take his daughter hostage.
** Noah Vosen from ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'' spends most of Murad in ''Film/Taken2'', despite the film either spying on Bourne and plot being about his allies to predict his next move, or sending assassins to kill them. Vosen does shoot at Bourne at the end of the film as a last ditch effort to prevent his escape, but fails miserably. Vosen's superiors, Dr. Albert Hirsch and CIA Director Ezra Kramer, also qualify for this trope in ''Ultimatum''.
** Eric Byer from ''Film/TheBourneLegacy'' is only seen out in the field in one scene that took place years earlier, and even then he's out of the action. During ''Legacy'', he either spends his time in NRAG's office or in a crisis suite, hundreds of miles from the film's conflict.
** Dewey from ''Film/JasonBourne'' in particular may not be a physical threat, but he is the head of the CIA and this gives him a massive amount of men and money. He used this to have Bourne's father killed, and arranges for the death of several characters. He is also an expert smooth talker, capable of getting Jason to stand down, and is the closest any villain in the series comes to killing Bourne.
* Dr. René Belloq from ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' is an intelligent ManipulativeBastard SmugSnake who surrounds himself with his
own [[ItsPersonal personal goons whenever revenge]] against Bryan Mills, he confronts Indiana Jones, but never attempts to actually fight him. However, without him, the Nazis would have gotten nowhere. Colonel Herman Dietrich, the leader does absolutely none of the Nazis searching for the Ark, also qualifies. Although Dietrich looks imposing, he never does any physical work apart from manhandling Marian, leaving his Nazis to do all the fighting.
* King Edward "Longshanks" from ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' commands his armies from the sidelines instead of fighting in battles personally. The closest thing Longshanks gets to fighting is when he throws an advisor out the window
beyond slapping Bryan while they had him captive and beats his own son. When William Wallace confronts Longshanks personally, Longshanks flees to safety.
* Commodus from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' is a DirtyCoward who has no combat experience apart from killing his deathly ill father to become Emperor. He relies on his countless soldiers to carry out his evil deeds, and sends his best gladiators into the arena in an attempt to kill TheHero Maximus. When Maximus goads Commodus into fighting him in the arena, Commodus stabs a restrained Maximus in order to win the fight unfairly. [[spoiler:Commodus still loses]].
* General Peter [=McAllister=] and Arjen Rudd from the first two ''Film/LethalWeapon'' movies. In the first movie, [=McAllister=] is able to sneak up on Riggs
without his goons to the killing, he is completely defenseless. When Murad tries to shoot Bryan in the back, after the latter noticing, and is clearly proficient with firearms. He just chooses not tried to get his hands dirty. And in the second movie, the only time Rudd takes action is to empty an entire clip on Riggs in the climax.
* ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'':
** Carter Verone in ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' mostly relied on his brains and left his henchmen to be the brawn. Although he does try to kill heroes with a shotgun in the climax, Bryan manages to shoot him in the shoulder first and he puts up no further resistance. Even [[GracefulLoser accepting his defeat with dignity and giving the heroes a smile]], as customs agents are taking him away.
** In ''Film/FastAndFurious'' (the fourth film), we have Braga, who despite being a ''very'' SmugSnake who boasts that he clawed his way up from the slums, puts up no resistance once the heroes get the drop on him, beyond trying to convince Dom they are NotSoDifferent and spends the climax bragging that his men are going to kill them once they catch up, until Bryan gives him a very satisfying elbow to the face. When Braga turns up again in the sixth installment, he arrogantly confronts Bryan like he's invincible, while he has couple goons with shivs to back him up. But as soon as they're dispatched, Bryan finally wipes that smug look off his face, as Braga can do nothing but [[DirtyCoward beg for his life, until he gives Bryan the information he was after]].
** Despite being a drug lord, Hernan Reyes in ''Film/FastFive'' is a CorruptCorporateExecutive and the only time he kills anyone personally, [[YouHaveFailedMe is when executing one his own men.]] Instead, Reyes relies on his {{mooks}}, money, and the heavily corrupt Rio Police Department to throw at the heroes, and when
make peace [[spoiler: [[ItMakesSenseInContext a giant steel vault is flung into his car]], he can only crawl out and beg for mercy, before Hobs puts a few bullets in him.dropped an unloaded gun to test him, Bryan kills him with one blow.]]
* ''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'':
** Alan Rikkin is an administrator In ''Film/Taken3'', after the defeating the ex-Soviet Spetsnaz and a speech giver; not a fighter. When crime lord who was thought to be the man behind everything, both Bryan and the audience are treated to the revelation that, [[spoiler: Stuart St.Clare, Bryan's ex-wife's former new husband and CorruptCorporateExecutive]] with no known combat ability what so ever is the Assassins start a prison riot]] he immediately leaves.true Big Bad.
** Tomás de Torquemada has no fighting skills. [[TheDragon Ojeda is his sole rampart]] when Aguilar and Maria ambush him inside the Alhambra chamber * [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in ''Film/{{Unbreakable}}'', where Muhammad XII kept the Apple mother of Eden.Elijah Price, a comic art gallery owner, mentions the "soldier villain", basically an EliteMook who fights with his fists, and the mastermind villain, who plots and plans and is often much more dangerous. David Dunn, the NighInvulnerable protagonist, runs into the film's BigBad, who is an example of the latter, pretty much immediately afterwards. [[spoiler: It turns out to be Elijah.]]
* ''Film/UnderSiege2DarkTerritory'': Travis Dane, the mastermind who hired the mercenaries and devised the plot to hijack the KillSat, isn't much of a physical threat. This is exacerbated by Ryback's InvincibleHero status, as TheDragon lasts only a few minutes in a fight against Ryback, Dane only seconds.



* Subverted with [[MagnificentBastard Professor James Moriarty]] in ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', who seems like only a thinker and not a fighter on the surface and never gets into a straight of fight with Holmes in the film. But it is established early on, that he is a former college boxing champion and later in the film, he [[spoiler: subjects Holmes to ColdBloodedTorture via ramming a hook through the latter's shoulder.]] Also, during Moriarty and Holmes's mental battle at the end of the film, both of them conclude that thanks to Holmes's [[spoiler: shoulder injury]], Moriarty would have probably won a straight up fight, between the two. [[spoiler: Luckily Holmes is smart enough not to play fair.]]
* The Big Bad of ''Film/TheAccountant'' [[spoiler: Lamar Blackburn]] is just a Corrupt Corporate Executive who doesn't even try to confront Wolf on his own, instead leaving him to [[TheDragon Braxton]] and his mercenaries. [[spoiler: But after [[Heel–Face Turn Braxton figures out Wolf is his long lost brother and changes side]], Blackburn is left completely defenseless and Wolf unceremoniously blows his brains out without second thought]].
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* Subverted with [[MagnificentBastard Professor James Moriarty]] in ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', who seems like only a thinker and not a fighter on the surface and never gets into a straight of fight with Holmes in the film. But it is established early on, that he is a former college boxing champion and later in the film, he [[spoiler: subjects Holmes to ColdBloodedTorture via ramming a hook through the latter's shoulder.]] Also, during Moriarty and Holmes's mental battle at the end of the film, both of them conclude that thanks to Holmes's [[spoiler: shoulder injury]], Moriarty would have probably won a straight up fight, between the two. [[spoiler: Luckily Holmes is smart enough, not to play fair.]]

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* Subverted with [[MagnificentBastard Professor James Moriarty]] in ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', who seems like only a thinker and not a fighter on the surface and never gets into a straight of fight with Holmes in the film. But it is established early on, that he is a former college boxing champion and later in the film, he [[spoiler: subjects Holmes to ColdBloodedTorture via ramming a hook through the latter's shoulder.]] Also, during Moriarty and Holmes's mental battle at the end of the film, both of them conclude that thanks to Holmes's [[spoiler: shoulder injury]], Moriarty would have probably won a straight up fight, between the two. [[spoiler: Luckily Holmes is smart enough, enough not to play fair.]] ]]
* The Big Bad of ''Film/TheAccountant'' [[spoiler: Lamar Blackburn]] is just a Corrupt Corporate Executive who doesn't even try to confront Wolf on his own, instead leaving him to [[TheDragon Braxton]] and his mercenaries. [[spoiler: But after [[Heel–Face Turn Braxton figures out Wolf is his long lost brother and changes side]], Blackburn is left completely defenseless and Wolf unceremoniously blows his brains out without second thought]].
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* Hawk Moth's whole deal from ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' is that he [[TheCorrupter corrupts people]] and turns them into his superpowered servants, [[VillainOfTheWeek the Akumas]]. As such, he spends most of his time [[OrcusOnHisThrone standing around in his lair]] and directing them from afar. The episode "Robostus" shows that he ''is'' capable of fighting (with a handy SwordCane no less) when forced to, but he's left completely exhausted afterwards.

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* Hawk Moth's whole deal from ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' is that he [[TheCorrupter corrupts people]] and turns them into his superpowered servants, [[VillainOfTheWeek the Akumas]]. As such, he spends most of his time [[OrcusOnHisThrone standing around in his lair]] and lair]], directing them from afar. The episode "Robostus" shows that he ''is'' capable of fighting (with a handy SwordCane no less) when forced to, but he's left completely exhausted afterwards.
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