History Main / NobodyEverComplainedBefore

1st Sep '16 10:06:35 AM Jhamin
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* The Barbary Wars of the early 1800s. European powers preferred to simply buy off the Barbary Corsairs rather than risk a disruptive war at sea - there were even dedicated line items in some nations' annual budgets setting aside a portion of their GDP as tribute - to the point where paying ransoms to the Corsairs was just an accepted cost of doing business in the Mediterranean Sea. When the Corsairs presented their tribute demands to the fledging United States, newly-elected President UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson - partly out of general principle, and partly because the young nation simply couldn't afford such an expenditure - basically said, "Yeah...no, we're not gonna do that" and set about building a navy instead. The United States was the first nation in recent memory to actually oppose the whole institutionalized piracy arrangement that kept the Barbary States wealthy and powerful. And it worked: After a rough start, the United States Navy defeated the Corsairs in 1805, and then again, decisively in 1815. After that, the British and French felt emboldened enough to refuse paying tribute as well; after all, if one weak, upstart, faraway nation could successfully oppose the Corsairs, then what excuse did they have? Ultimately they conquered and colonized North Africa. All it took was one nation to complain (very loudly, with cannons), and the whole thing fell down.

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* The Barbary Wars of the early 1800s. European powers preferred to simply buy off the Barbary Corsairs rather than risk a disruptive war at sea - there were even dedicated line items in some nations' annual budgets setting aside a portion of their GDP as tribute - to the point where paying ransoms to the Corsairs was just an accepted cost of doing business in the Mediterranean Sea. When the Corsairs presented their tribute demands to the fledging United States, newly-elected President UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson - partly out of general principle, and partly because the young nation simply couldn't afford such an expenditure - basically said, "Yeah...no, we're not gonna do that" and set about building a navy instead. The United States was the first nation in recent memory to actually oppose the whole institutionalized piracy arrangement that kept the Barbary States wealthy and powerful. And it worked: After a rough start, the United States Navy defeated the Corsairs in 1805, 1805 (the origin of "to the shores of Tripoli" in the Marine Corps Hymn), and then again, decisively in 1815. After that, the British and French felt emboldened enough to refuse paying tribute as well; after all, if one weak, upstart, faraway nation could successfully oppose the Corsairs, then what excuse did they have? Ultimately they conquered and colonized North Africa. All it took was one nation to complain (very loudly, with cannons), and the whole thing fell down.
25th Aug '16 8:54:41 PM BigJaredMonkey
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* In 2016, the US government announced that women who reached age 18 would be required to register with the Selective Service System -- the so-called "military draft" -- just like American men had been required to do since 1917. Almost immediately, the National Organization for Women began a campaign to completely end the draft because "no one should be forced to fight and die unless they volunteer." It goes without saying that many jokes were made about the convenient timing of the organization's protest, and the fact that [[{{Hypocrite}} when it was just men being drafted, the organization never really gave a damn about the draft]].
16th Aug '16 9:34:09 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''VideoGame/{{Halo 4}}'': Dr Halsey's interrogator calls out on Halsey's methods of creating the Spartan [=II=]s and the reason they were really made, calling them cruel. Halsey defended that her Spartans are the reason humanity survived, and no one complained before.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Halo 4}}'': Dr Halsey's interrogator calls out on Halsey's methods of creating the Spartan [=II=]s Spartan-[=II=]s and the reason they were really made, calling them cruel. Halsey defended reminds him that her Spartans are the reason humanity survived, and that no one complained before.
13th Aug '16 12:49:19 AM Hadjorim
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** [[BeliefMakesYouStupid They almost never understand]] the [[InsaneTrollLogic gross irrationality]] of claiming that NobodyEverComplainedBefore while [[AppealToForce threatening to murder whoever complained!]] Those few who do realize how ridiculous it is to cite a lack of complaint as justification when any complaint is met with violence are usually smart enough not to defend religious crimes in the first place.
13th Aug '16 12:47:38 AM Hadjorim
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* [[OnceAnEpisode Every single time]] there's an attempt to remove a religious idol illegally erected on public property, or put an end to some other special privilege one religion has gotten used to having over everyone else, there will '''always''' be a flood of religious apologists insisting that [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections whatever illegal thing they've been doing MUST be okay]], because ''NobodyEverComplainedBefore''. Even when the same violation actually HAS been reported before, perhaps many times.
** When this argument is made, it's virtually always accompanied by supporters of religious privilege and establishment [[DisproportionateRetribution threatening to rape, murder, or torture the people making the complaint]] [[MoralEventHorizon and their families]]. Sometimes the people who insist that NobodyEverComplainedBefore are ''the very same people'' threatening violence against the complainers and anyone around them, [[WouldHurtAChild even children]].

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* [[OnceAnEpisode Every single time]] time there's an attempt to remove a religious idol illegally erected on public property, or put an end to some other special privilege one religion has gotten used to having over everyone else, there will '''always''' be a flood of religious apologists insisting that [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections whatever illegal thing they've been doing MUST be okay]], because ''NobodyEverComplainedBefore''. Even when the same violation actually HAS been reported before, perhaps many times. \n** When this argument is made, it's virtually always accompanied by supporters of religious privilege and establishment [[DisproportionateRetribution threatening to rape, murder, or torture the people making the complaint]] [[MoralEventHorizon and their families]]. Sometimes the people who insist that NobodyEverComplainedBefore are ''the very same people'' threatening violence against the complainers and anyone around them, [[WouldHurtAChild even children]].
18th May '16 9:13:46 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** In the ''Series/DeepSpaceNine'' episode "Captive Pursuit", the human-like aliens pursuing Tosk are surprised when Sisko considers the custom - hunting a sentient being for sport - immoral and wrong. In fact, Tosk himself seems to see nothing wrong with it, having been trained from birth for such a purpose.

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** In the ''Series/DeepSpaceNine'' episode "Captive Pursuit", the human-like aliens pursuing Tosk are surprised when Sisko considers the custom - hunting a sentient being for sport - immoral and wrong. In fact, Tosk himself seems to see nothing wrong with it, having been trained from birth for such a purpose. They seem to have taken a page out of the Hitchhiker's Guide and gotten around the whole ethical dilemma by using a genetically engineered race that wanted to be hunted (WordOfGod is that the Dominion made the Tosks for them).
3rd May '16 9:24:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ScaryMovie 3'': The aliens appear to attack the protagonists, who then kill one of them in retaliation, but the aliens inform them that strangling each other is their standard way of saying hello. A kick to the groin is how they say goodbye.

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* ''ScaryMovie 3'': ''Film/ScaryMovie3'': The aliens appear to attack the protagonists, who then kill one of them in retaliation, but the aliens inform them that strangling each other is their standard way of saying hello. A kick to the groin is how they say goodbye.
4th Mar '16 7:47:15 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In several ''Franchise/StarTrek'' episodes, various alien species actually seem surprised when the Federation objects to having their citizens [[AlienAbduction kidnapped]].

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In several ''Franchise/StarTrek'' episodes, various alien species actually seem surprised when the Federation objects to having their citizens [[AlienAbduction kidnapped]].



*** In "When the Bough Breaks", an alien race kidnapped the Enterprise children because they had all gone infertile. They seemed surprised that the Enterprise parents didn't understand their plight and wanted their children back.

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*** ** In "When the Bough Breaks", an alien race kidnapped the Enterprise children because they had all gone infertile. They seemed surprised that the Enterprise parents didn't understand their plight and wanted their children back.
** In the ''Series/DeepSpaceNine'' episode "Captive Pursuit", the human-like aliens pursuing Tosk are surprised when Sisko considers the custom - hunting a sentient being for sport - immoral and wrong. In fact, Tosk himself seems to see nothing wrong with it, having been trained from birth for such a purpose.
3rd Jan '16 10:26:40 AM LBHills
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** Justified, between when the practice started and when the humans showed up, no other sentient species ''existed'' on their planet -- there were only 6 other species on the whole planet. Forget no other sentient species, there were barely any other species, period!

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** Justified, between when the practice started and when the humans showed up, no other sentient species ''existed'' on their planet -- in fact, due to a pandemic virus-like organism, there were only 6 other six species on the whole planet. Forget no other sentient species, there were barely any other species, period!of ''any'' kind.
4th Sep '15 9:09:04 AM phantomreader42
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* [[OnceAnEpisode Every single time]] there's an attempt to remove a religious idol illegally erected on public property, or put an end to some other special privilege one religion has gotten used to having over everyone else, there will '''always''' be a flood of religious apologists insisting that [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections whatever illegal thing they've been doing MUST be okay]], because ''NobodyEverComplainedBefore''. Even when the same violation actually HAS been reported before, perhaps many times.
** When this argument is made, it's virtually always accompanied by supporters of religious privilege and establishment [[DisproportionateRetribution threatening to rape, murder, or torture the people making the complaint]] [[MoralEventHorizon and their families]]. Sometimes the people who insist that NobodyEverComplainedBefore are ''the very same people'' threatening violence against the complainers and anyone around them, [[WouldHurtAChild even children]].
** [[BeliefMakesYouStupid They almost never understand]] the [[InsaneTrollLogic gross irrationality]] of claiming that NobodyEverComplainedBefore while [[AppealToForce threatening to murder whoever complained!]] Those few who do realize how ridiculous it is to cite a lack of complaint as justification when any complaint is met with violence are usually smart enough not to defend religious crimes in the first place.
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