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16th Mar '17 11:14:49 AM morenohijazo
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* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Sultan Pulmankar is mostly known as a ruthless conqueror and a terrifying enemy, but he has a lot of rules (including always sparing his enemy's generals), is very affable to the Caliph when they are allied, and is shown to be a pretty good father.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Sultan Pulmankar Pullmankar is mostly known as a ruthless conqueror conquerer and a terrifying enemy, but he has a lot of rules (including always sparing his enemy's generals), is very affable to the Caliph when they are allied, and is shown to be a pretty good father.
12th Mar '17 10:42:33 AM Frem3
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* Manga/BlackJack is a milder example, deliberately cultivating a DrJerk reputation but still managing to be a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold pretty decent guy]] in the long run.

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* Manga/BlackJack ''Manga/BlackJack'' is a milder example, deliberately cultivating a DrJerk reputation but still managing to be a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold pretty decent guy]] in the long run.
4th Mar '17 5:14:52 PM Xtifr
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* [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar Julius Caesar]] as depicted in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}''. He isn't above tricking people, but within far more defined limits than Asterix himself, generally being more clever than he is deceitful. He always keeps his promises, treats people below his station and even his enemies with respect (even when they're really annoying), and is one of the few Roman politicians we see who isn't plotting to backstab everyone else, stealing money from the state, being completely ineffectual, or fantasising about getting the Gaulish magic potion and using it to kill their friends and become god-emperor. It should be noted that in no way is he a nice guy, though; he's still a colonialist tyrant who tries to have people executed, is delighted by various Villain of the Week characters with bizarre and horrible gifts, and is trying to destroy a culture's way of life simply because they're getting on his nerves.

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* [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar Julius Caesar]] UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar as depicted in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}''. He isn't above tricking people, but within far more defined limits than Asterix himself, generally being more clever than he is deceitful. He always keeps his promises, treats people below his station and even his enemies with respect (even when they're really annoying), and is one of the few Roman politicians we see who isn't plotting to backstab everyone else, stealing money from the state, being completely ineffectual, or fantasising about getting the Gaulish magic potion and using it to kill their friends and become god-emperor. It should be noted that in no way is he a nice guy, though; he's still a colonialist tyrant who tries to have people executed, is delighted by various Villain of the Week characters with bizarre and horrible gifts, and is trying to destroy a culture's way of life simply because they're getting on his nerves.
27th Feb '17 4:20:07 PM redandready45
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* ''FanFic/AGreatAndPowerfulHeart'': [[DirtyCop Sheriff]] [[CorruptHick Brass]] is a crooked, [[spoiler: and racist]] scumbag. But despite pushing Trixie into [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse an unwanted task]], he does honor his promise to [[IGaveMyWord let her go]] when she completes the task, and even rewards her for her trouble.
10th Feb '17 6:04:20 PM Schismatism
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** The ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' also has Dr. Diabolik, known colloquially to his kids as 'Dr. Dad'. His goals are fairly villainous all in all, or at least they appear to be; still, he likes to avoid collateral damage, refuses to allow the slaughter or maiming of civilians, and the like. WordOfGod has it that he does this at least in part to avoid being on the supervillain A-list: while he's at the top of the B-list, it's getting on the A-list that will really have everyone gunning for him. [[spoiler: He also curbs his plans to attack Darwin when an OmnicidalManiac turns up.]]
6th Feb '17 10:00:15 PM Luppercus
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* Sorin Markov of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' is an [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Innistrad vampire]] planeswalker who is paranoid and drains blood in order to survive, but is one of the few characters who could be classified as a BigGood. He views his bloodthirst as a necessity, but tries to maintain order in his hometown and [[SealedEvilInACan attempts to seal]] the [[EldritchAbomination Eldrazi]] to save the lives of billions. Being a white/black (formally monoblack)-aligned planeswalker, he also falls under DarkIsNotEvil.



* Sorin Markov of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' is an [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Innistrad vampire]] planeswalker who is paranoid and drains blood in order to survive, but is one of the few characters who could be classified as a BigGood. He views his bloodthirst as a necessity, but tries to maintain order in his hometown and [[SealedEvilInACan attempts to seal]] the [[EldritchAbomination Eldrazi]] to save the lives of billions. Being a white/black (formally monoblack)-aligned planeswalker, he also falls under DarkIsNotEvil.



* Magneto may very well define this category, at least when he's on the Heel side of his HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. He only wants to protect his people and sees a war between mutants and humans as inevitable so he wants to strike first. He may even have a point or two about this, he just can't resist going several steps too far.
* This is the common characterization for ComicBook/{{Thanos}} the Mad Titan of the MarvelUniverse, post-''[[CrisisCrossover The Infinity Gauntlet]]''.
* ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}'''s succubus Chantinelle (Ellie) is less noble than extraordinarily unlucky. Having tried to seduce an angel and succeeded, she fell in love with him and bore his child, leading to his demise at the hands of other angels and her exile from Hell. John Constantine notes that she's not a bad sort considering what she actually is, to which she replies, "I don't think so, John...I think I'm just polite."

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* Magneto may very well define Lex Nova, a one off character from the ''ComicBook/ThirtyDaysOfNight'' comic, ''Bloodsucker Tales'', fits this category, at least when trope to a T. A completely batshit insane vampire who thinks he's on a private eye and narrates his life out loud, Nova saves the Heel side town of his HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. He Juarez from the various villains and only wants to protect feeds on goats.
* [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar Julius Caesar]] as depicted in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}''. He isn't above tricking people, but within far more defined limits than Asterix himself, generally being more clever than he is deceitful. He always keeps
his promises, treats people below his station and sees a war between mutants and humans as inevitable so he wants to strike first. He may even have a point or two about this, he just can't resist going several steps too far.
* This
his enemies with respect (even when they're really annoying), and is the common characterization for ComicBook/{{Thanos}} the Mad Titan one of the MarvelUniverse, post-''[[CrisisCrossover The Infinity Gauntlet]]''.
* ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}'''s succubus Chantinelle (Ellie) is less noble than extraordinarily unlucky. Having tried
few Roman politicians we see who isn't plotting to seduce an angel backstab everyone else, stealing money from the state, being completely ineffectual, or fantasising about getting the Gaulish magic potion and succeeded, she fell using it to kill their friends and become god-emperor. It should be noted that in love no way is he a nice guy, though; he's still a colonialist tyrant who tries to have people executed, is delighted by various Villain of the Week characters with him bizarre and bore horrible gifts, and is trying to destroy a culture's way of life simply because they're getting on his child, leading to nerves.
* ComicBook/TheKingpin, archenemy of {{ComicBook/Daredevil}}. He's an unabashed crime lord who will ruthlessly eliminate people who hinder
his demise at the hands operation. However he almost always keeps his promises, has a fairly strict code of other angels honor, genuinely cares for his friends and her exile from Hell. John Constantine notes that she's not a bad sort considering what she actually is, to which she replies, "I family, and treats his underlings well as long as they pull their weight and don't think so, John...I think I'm just polite."try to backstab him. He actually has a fair amount of respect for Daredevil, if only because Matt so strongly adheres to his convictions. In this regard Kingpin is often contrasted with Daredevil's other archenemy Bullseye, a BloodKnight who commits evil for the fun of it.
* ComicBook/{{Diabolik}} may be the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast King of Terror]], but he will ''not'' harm children (and in fact he likes them), has little tolerance for human traffickers and drug smugglers and ''zero'' tolerance for rapists and biological weapons, tries to avoid collateral damage (not that he cares when he has to cause it), respects those who give him a run for his money, and will ''always'' keep his word.
* Another literal example was the Straw Man, a scarecrow-like demon and one of the Fear Lords: a group of demons who could feed on fear and conspired to conquer and rule the Earth. (The most notorious of them was Nightmare.) The Straw Man eventually double-crossed the others, aiding Comicbook/DoctorStrange to oppose Nightmare. (The reason behind this shift in allegiance isn't known, but it may have been part of its stated goal of taking vengeance upon a group called the Cult of Kalumai.)



* Namor the ComicBook/SubMariner retains his nobility the times he passes the FaceHeelRevolvingDoor between AntiVillain and AntiHero. He's fully smitten with Sue, but respects her choice and seeks to legitimately win her heart.

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* Namor This could be said of [[TheFlash The Rogues]] because they have a code of "ethics" that they live by and consider themselves above killing women and children. Captain Cold is a particular stand out in this regard. This is also the ComicBook/SubMariner retains reason they generally keep to themselves and don't work with [[LegionOfDoom the Secret Society]]; they're so stubborn and honor-bound that more amoral villains like Lex Luthor can't manipulate them, and instead alienate them by proposing schemes that none of the Rogues can stomach.
* ''ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}}'''s succubus Chantinelle (Ellie) is less noble than extraordinarily unlucky. Having tried to seduce an angel and succeeded, she fell in love with him and bore
his nobility child, leading to his demise at the times hands of other angels and her exile from Hell. John Constantine notes that she's not a bad sort considering what she actually is, to which she replies, "I don't think so, John...I think I'm just polite."
* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Sultan Pulmankar is mostly known as a ruthless conqueror and a terrifying enemy, but
he passes has a lot of rules (including always sparing his enemy's generals), is very affable to the FaceHeelRevolvingDoor Caliph when they are allied, and is shown to be a pretty good father.
* Magneto may very well define this category, at least when he's on the Heel side of his HeelFaceRevolvingDoor. He only wants to protect his people and sees a war
between AntiVillain mutants and AntiHero. He's fully smitten humans as inevitable so he wants to strike first. He may even have a point or two about this, he just can't resist going several steps too far.
* Creator/NeilGaiman often writes to this trope. Denizens from Hell can often be bargained
with Sue, but respects her choice (after all, being a demon is all about lying, backstabbing, betrayal, and seeks personal gain) or reasoned with, and frequently have a code of honor by which they will abide, to legitimately win her heart.the extent of helping out a protagonist. Lucifer in the earlier [[Comicbook/TheSandman Sandman]] arcs is particularly representative of this trope.
* The ComicBook/SecretSix sometimes fall into this, though it's usually more a case of punishing the evil (with torture) than saving the good. One of the best examples is Deadshot's revenge mission to a North Korean political prison.



* Another literal example was the Straw Man, a scarecrow-like demon and one of the Fear Lords: a group of demons who could feed on fear and conspired to conquer and rule the Earth. (The most notorious of them was Nightmare.) The Straw Man eventually double-crossed the others, aiding Comicbook/DoctorStrange to oppose Nightmare. (The reason behind this shift in allegiance isn't known, but it may have been part of its stated goal of taking vengeance upon a group called the Cult of Kalumai.)
* Creator/NeilGaiman often writes to this trope. Denizens from Hell can often be bargained with (after all, being a demon is all about lying, backstabbing, betrayal, and personal gain) or reasoned with, and frequently have a code of honor by which they will abide, to the extent of helping out a protagonist. Lucifer in the earlier [[Comicbook/TheSandman Sandman]] arcs is particularly representative of this trope.
* ComicBook/{{Etrigan}}. Despite the fact that he is ''literally'' a demon (and one of the nobility of Hell, no less) he more often than not finds himself on the same side as heroic figures like Superman.
* Lex Nova, a one off character from the ''ComicBook/ThirtyDaysOfNight'' comic, ''Bloodsucker Tales'', fits this trope to a T. A completely batshit insane vampire who thinks he's a private eye and narrates his life out loud, Nova saves the town of Juarez from the various villains and only feeds on goats.
* Princess Lucinda from the reboot of ''ComicBook/WitchGirlsTales'', '''so''' much. She has quite a sadistic side and a reputation as an evil princess... but for all her loudly-proclaimed villainy, she almost ''always'' seems to end up on the side of good, despite her rather NightmareFuel-rific methods -- even by the standards of the setting, which is loaded with BodyHorror transformations and remarkably casual murder. It's actually ''{{Lampshaded}}'' in one side comic, where it's noticed that unicorns will approach her, despite supposedly being amazing judges of character that never approach anyone evil. When someone suggests that this means she's just ''acting'' evil, she turns them into a frog for it.
* The ComicBook/SecretSix sometimes fall into this, though it's usually more a case of punishing the evil (with torture) than saving the good. One of the best examples is Deadshot's revenge mission to a North Korean political prison.



* This could be said of [[TheFlash The Rogues]] because they have a code of "ethics" that they live by and consider themselves above killing women and children. Captain Cold is a particular stand out in this regard. This is also the reason they generally keep to themselves and don't work with [[LegionOfDoom the Secret Society]]; they're so stubborn and honor-bound that more amoral villains like Lex Luthor can't manipulate them, and instead alienate them by proposing schemes that none of the Rogues can stomach.
* [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar Julius Caesar]] as depicted in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}''. He isn't above tricking people, but within far more defined limits than Asterix himself, generally being more clever than he is deceitful. He always keeps his promises, treats people below his station and even his enemies with respect (even when they're really annoying), and is one of the few Roman politicians we see who isn't plotting to backstab everyone else, stealing money from the state, being completely ineffectual, or fantasising about getting the Gaulish magic potion and using it to kill their friends and become god-emperor. It should be noted that in no way is he a nice guy, though; he's still a colonialist tyrant who tries to have people executed, is delighted by various Villain of the Week characters with bizarre and horrible gifts, and is trying to destroy a culture's way of life simply because they're getting on his nerves.
* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Sultan Pulmankar is mostly known as a ruthless conqueror and a terrifying enemy, but he has a lot of rules (including always sparing his enemy's generals), is very affable to the Caliph when they are allied, and is shown to be a pretty good father.
* ComicBook/{{Diabolik}} may be the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast King of Terror]], but he will ''not'' harm children (and in fact he likes them), has little tolerance for human traffickers and drug smugglers and ''zero'' tolerance for rapists and biological weapons, tries to avoid collateral damage (not that he cares when he has to cause it), respects those who give him a run for his money, and will ''always'' keep his word.
* ComicBook/TheKingpin, archenemy of {{ComicBook/Daredevil}}. He's an unabashed crime lord who will ruthlessly eliminate people who hinder his operation. However he almost always keeps his promises, has a fairly strict code of honor, genuinely cares for his friends and family, and treats his underlings well as long as they pull their weight and don't try to backstab him. He actually has a fair amount of respect for Daredevil, if only because Matt so strongly adheres to his convictions. In this regard Kingpin is often contrasted with Daredevil's other archenemy Bullseye, a BloodKnight who commits evil for the fun of it.

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* This could be said of [[TheFlash The Rogues]] because they have a code of "ethics" that they live by Namor the ComicBook/SubMariner retains his nobility the times he passes the FaceHeelRevolvingDoor between AntiVillain and consider themselves above killing women and children. Captain Cold is a particular stand out in this regard. This is also the reason they generally keep to themselves and don't work with [[LegionOfDoom the Secret Society]]; they're so stubborn and honor-bound that more amoral villains like Lex Luthor can't manipulate them, and instead alienate them by proposing schemes that none of the Rogues can stomach.
* [[Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar Julius Caesar]] as depicted in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}''. He isn't above tricking people, but within far more defined limits than Asterix himself, generally being more clever than he is deceitful. He always keeps his promises, treats people below his station and even his enemies with respect (even when they're really annoying), and is one of the few Roman politicians we see who isn't plotting to backstab everyone else, stealing money from the state, being completely ineffectual, or fantasising about getting the Gaulish magic potion and using it to kill their friends and become god-emperor. It should be noted that in no way is he a nice guy, though; he's still a colonialist tyrant who tries to have people executed, is delighted by various Villain of the Week characters with bizarre and horrible gifts, and is trying to destroy a culture's way of life simply because they're getting on his nerves.
* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Sultan Pulmankar is mostly known as a ruthless conqueror and a terrifying enemy, but he has a lot of rules (including always sparing his enemy's generals), is very affable to the Caliph when they are allied, and is shown to be a pretty good father.
* ComicBook/{{Diabolik}} may be the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast King of Terror]], but he will ''not'' harm children (and in fact he likes them), has little tolerance for human traffickers and drug smugglers and ''zero'' tolerance for rapists and biological weapons, tries to avoid collateral damage (not that he cares when he has to cause it), respects those who give him a run for his money, and will ''always'' keep his word.
* ComicBook/TheKingpin, archenemy of {{ComicBook/Daredevil}}.
AntiHero. He's an unabashed crime lord who will ruthlessly eliminate people who hinder his operation. However he almost always keeps his promises, has a fairly strict code of honor, genuinely cares for his friends and family, and treats his underlings well as long as they pull their weight and don't try to backstab him. He actually has a fair amount of respect for Daredevil, if only because Matt so strongly adheres to his convictions. In this regard Kingpin is often contrasted fully smitten with Daredevil's other archenemy Bullseye, a BloodKnight who commits evil Sue, but respects her choice and seeks to legitimately win her heart.
* This is the common characterization
for ComicBook/{{Thanos}} the fun Mad Titan of it.the MarvelUniverse, post-''[[CrisisCrossover The Infinity Gauntlet]]''.



* Princess Lucinda from the reboot of ''ComicBook/WitchGirlsTales'', '''so''' much. She has quite a sadistic side and a reputation as an evil princess... but for all her loudly-proclaimed villainy, she almost ''always'' seems to end up on the side of good, despite her rather NightmareFuel-rific methods -- even by the standards of the setting, which is loaded with BodyHorror transformations and remarkably casual murder. It's actually ''{{Lampshaded}}'' in one side comic, where it's noticed that unicorns will approach her, despite supposedly being amazing judges of character that never approach anyone evil. When someone suggests that this means she's just ''acting'' evil, she turns them into a frog for it.



* Subverted in ''Fanfic/TheReturn'' -- while demonic and of nobility, when Dark Star wants to "topple your castle", she'll use artillery, and then go in the ruins and personally kill anyone left.



* Many of the demons of ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}''. The general demonic mindset is [[BlueAndOrangeMorality alien rather than explicitly evil]], so it's possible for them to have agendas that might come across as weird or scary while ultimately being well-meaning or even pleasant. Ligier, the Green Sun, simply wishes for Creation to share in the glories of Hell (and is often drawn into Creation by lowly people with great need, who he will offer his services as a smith to), Amalion only wishes to create beautiful things (even if they are beauties that break mortal hearts), Alveua wants to give everything a sense of order and purpose (albeit through forging their bodies into useful items), and creatures as low in the hierarchy as the neomah somply want to create children, albeit from flesh harvested from multiple donors (and can be summoned by the tears of parents mixed with the afterbirth of stillborn children).



* Many of the demons of ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}''. The general demonic mindset is [[BlueAndOrangeMorality alien rather than explicitly evil]], so it's possible for them to have agendas that might come across as weird or scary while ultimately being well-meaning or even pleasant. Ligier, the Green Sun, simply wishes for Creation to share in the glories of Hell (and is often drawn into Creation by lowly people with great need, who he will offer his services as a smith to), Amalion only wishes to create beautiful things (even if they are beauties that break mortal hearts), Alveua wants to give everything a sense of order and purpose (albeit through forging their bodies into useful items), and creatures as low in the hierarchy as the neomah somply want to create children, albeit from flesh harvested from multiple donors (and can be summoned by the tears of parents mixed with the afterbirth of stillborn children).



* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': [[EnergyBeing Makuta]] [[AntiVillain Krika]] of [[BrotherhoodOfEvil Brotherhood of Makuta]]. Just as guilty as the other members of his species of plunging the [[GodIsGood Great Spirit Mata Nui]] into slumber and ruining the universe [[FallenHero he was made to protect]], but remains the only one with a functioning moral compass and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone fully aware of what he and his comrades have done]], but goes along with it because [[YouCantFightFate he believes their fate is sealed either way]]. He [[YouWillBeSpared offers mercy to his opponents when possible]], questions the Plan of [[BigBad Makuta Teridax]], [[spoiler:finally pulls a HeelFaceTurn near the end to try and stop the Plan from succeeding, and upon learning that [[UriahGambit Teridax set all the remaining Makuta up to die]] he chooses to [[HonorBeforeReason return to his comrades and warn them instead of escaping]], knowing he would likely (and did) die by their hands for his [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves betrayal]]]]. There's a reason he's considered by many fans to be the EnsembleDarkhorse among the Makuta.



* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': [[EnergyBeing Makuta]] [[AntiVillain Krika]] of [[BrotherhoodOfEvil Brotherhood of Makuta]]. Just as guilty as the other members of his species of plunging the [[GodIsGood Great Spirit Mata Nui]] into slumber and ruining the universe [[FallenHero he was made to protect]], but remains the only one with a functioning moral compass and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone fully aware of what he and his comrades have done]], but goes along with it because [[YouCantFightFate he believes their fate is sealed either way]]. He [[YouWillBeSpared offers mercy to his opponents when possible]], questions the Plan of [[BigBad Makuta Teridax]], [[spoiler:finally pulls a HeelFaceTurn near the end to try and stop the Plan from succeeding, and upon learning that [[UriahGambit Teridax set all the remaining Makuta up to die]] he chooses to [[HonorBeforeReason return to his comrades and warn them instead of escaping]], knowing he would likely (and did) die by their hands for his [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves betrayal]]]]. There's a reason he's considered by many fans to be the EnsembleDarkhorse among the Makuta.



* Sandoval from ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' is a wicked nobleman and serves as ambassador for the [[TheFairFolk elvish country of Xoan]]. He'll use, screw, and kill anyone he feels like, typically in flamboyant fashion yet he usually spares innocent, virginal Ivan simply because Ivan is an innocent virgin. Sure, [[{{Troll}} he'll toy with Ivan]], but that's merciful and gentle coming from Sandoval.
* Mosp, of ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'', is an extremely literal example, what with being a demon and also very, very noble. Her nobility comes across slowly as a product of Torg's compassion for her, and leads to her epic SugarWiki/MomentofAwesome. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for her.]]



* ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'':
** A fairly obvious example in [[http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_647.php Abel]]. Abel is pretty unambiguously good, he just tries to push people away.
** Fa'lina is perhaps a straighter example, running a school that teaches horrible things like torture, yet simultaneously seeming to really care about people (even strangers) and wanting to help protect them. Its not entirely clear whether she is simply crazy, has a deeper agenda, or is actually good and merely allows evil things in her school because otherwise should couldn't [[MamaBear protect more cubi.]]



* "Gav", the protagonist of ''[[http://www.nukees.com/ Nukees]]'', is an aspiring dictator-of-the-world, with a passion for gigantic weapons of destruction -- [[ILoveNuclearPower and everything nuclear]]. But he's also helped his friends out of any number of tight spots, while constantly trying to cover it up so as not to lose his villainous reputation. The most notable example is probably when he saves a DamselInDistress, but makes it look like he was trying to rape her instead...



* ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'':
** A fairly obvious example in [[http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_647.php Abel]]. Abel is pretty unambiguously good, he just tries to push people away.
** Fa'lina is perhaps a straighter example, running a school that teaches horrible things like torture, yet simultaneously seeming to really care about people (even strangers) and wanting to help protect them. Its not entirely clear whether she is simply crazy, has a deeper agenda, or is actually good and merely allows evil things in her school because otherwise should couldn't [[MamaBear protect more cubi.]]
* [[http://tallcomics.com/?id=41 Spondulio Wealthmonger]] from ''Webcomic/UnwindersTallComics'' is considered "the most charitable person alive" by everyone. But Spondulio would be the first (and only) one to remind you that he's thoroughly selfish to the core, and that his many acts of kindness are actually the side effects of elaborate plans to make himself fabulously wealthy.
* Jerak, who is a demon, from ''Webcomic/PlanescapeSurvivalGuide'' is convinced that he remains evil, even after helping the good guys eats rather significantly into his profit margins. His (also demonic) compatriots, Grull and Winnie, don't seem to mind alignnment shifts as much as he does.
* The cast of ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'' are a cynical, mean, and sometimes violent and sadistic bunch of people who always look out for their friends.
* Malack of ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is a [[spoiler:vampiric]] dark cleric and loyal right-hand man to a brutal warlord. He is also cultured and cordial, and he goes out of his way to offer truces and compromises to fellow cleric Durkon because he doesn't want to have to resort to violence against someone he respects. [[spoiler:When Malack is ultimately forced to fight Durkon and turn him into a vampire, Durkon pleads with Malack to show mercy on his comrades. And true to form, Malack leaves the paralyzed Belkar alive and, a short while later, does not reveal the Order of the Stick's position to Nale out of respect for Durkon's final wish.]]



* Sandoval from ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' is a wicked nobleman and serves as ambassador for the [[TheFairFolk elvish country of Xoan]]. He'll use, screw, and kill anyone he feels like, typically in flamboyant fashion yet he usually spares innocent, virginal Ivan simply because Ivan is an innocent virgin. Sure, [[{{Troll}} he'll toy with Ivan]], but that's merciful and gentle coming from Sandoval.
* Malack of ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is a [[spoiler:vampiric]] dark cleric and loyal right-hand man to a brutal warlord. He is also cultured and cordial, and he goes out of his way to offer truces and compromises to fellow cleric Durkon because he doesn't want to have to resort to violence against someone he respects. [[spoiler:When Malack is ultimately forced to fight Durkon and turn him into a vampire, Durkon pleads with Malack to show mercy on his comrades. And true to form, Malack leaves the paralyzed Belkar alive and, a short while later, does not reveal the Order of the Stick's position to Nale out of respect for Durkon's final wish.]]
* Jerak, who is a demon, from ''Webcomic/PlanescapeSurvivalGuide'' is convinced that he remains evil, even after helping the good guys eats rather significantly into his profit margins. His (also demonic) compatriots, Grull and Winnie, don't seem to mind alignnment shifts as much as he does.
* "Gav", the protagonist of ''[[http://www.nukees.com/ Nukees]]'', is an aspiring dictator-of-the-world, with a passion for gigantic weapons of destruction -- [[ILoveNuclearPower and everything nuclear]]. But he's also helped his friends out of any number of tight spots, while constantly trying to cover it up so as not to lose his villainous reputation. The most notable example is probably when he saves a DamselInDistress, but makes it look like he was trying to rape her instead...
* The cast of ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'' are a cynical, mean, and sometimes violent and sadistic bunch of people who always look out for their friends.
* Mosp, of ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'', is an extremely literal example, what with being a demon and also very, very noble. Her nobility comes across slowly as a product of Torg's compassion for her, and leads to her epic SugarWiki/MomentofAwesome. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for her.]]
* [[http://tallcomics.com/?id=41 Spondulio Wealthmonger]] from ''Webcomic/UnwindersTallComics'' is considered "the most charitable person alive" by everyone. But Spondulio would be the first (and only) one to remind you that he's thoroughly selfish to the core, and that his many acts of kindness are actually the side effects of elaborate plans to make himself fabulously wealthy.



* In the ''Literture/WhateleyUniverse'', Carmilla is noble and a demon. She's one of the protagonists, and yet she is directly descended from both Cthulhu and Shub-Niggurath, and is supposed to take the mantle of The Kellith, to wipe humanity off the face of the earth and repopulate the planet with the seeds of The Great Old Ones. [[ScrewDestiny She's refusing]] [[AntiAntiChrist to do so.]]



* [[spoiler:The Thing That Shatters The Sky]] from ''Critical Hit: A Major Spoilers Dungeons and Dragons Podcast'' offers to provide the Torqeltones safe harbor on the moon in gratitude of his liberation so they can live in happiness as his plans destroy the World. He seems unphased when they talk of choosing to fight him instead, telling them to weight their options carefully and consider whether the glory of taking down a void god is worth the perils of facing one.
* ''Podcast/KakosIndustries'' has VillainProtagonist and CardCarryingVillain Corin Deeth III normally fall into this. He's in charge of one of the biggest [[EvilInc Evil corporations in the world,]] but is still [[BenevolentBoss a fairly lenient boss]] who honestly cares about his closer companions and has some sense of moral compass, making him far less ruthless than his competitors. He does have the occasional violent outburst and some severe cases LackOfEmpathy at his worst, but is all around a pretty decent person.



* Subverted in ''Fanfic/TheReturn'' -- while demonic and of nobility, when Dark Star wants to "topple your castle", she'll use artillery, and then go in the ruins and personally kill anyone left.
* [[spoiler:The Thing That Shatters The Sky]] from ''Critical Hit: A Major Spoilers Dungeons and Dragons Podcast'' offers to provide the Torqeltones safe harbor on the moon in gratitude of his liberation so they can live in happiness as his plans destroy the World. He seems unphased when they talk of choosing to fight him instead, telling them to weight their options carefully and consider whether the glory of taking down a void god is worth the perils of facing one.
* ''Podcast/KakosIndustries'' has VillainProtagonist and CardCarryingVillain Corin Deeth III normally fall into this. He's in charge of one of the biggest [[EvilInc Evil corporations in the world,]] but is still [[BenevolentBoss a fairly lenient boss]] who honestly cares about his closer companions and has some sense of moral compass, making him far less ruthless than his competitors. He does have the occasional violent outburst and some severe cases LackOfEmpathy at his worst, but is all around a pretty decent person.



* In the ''Literture/WhateleyUniverse'', Carmilla is noble and a demon. She's one of the protagonists, and yet she is directly descended from both Cthulhu and Shub-Niggurath, and is supposed to take the mantle of The Kellith, to wipe humanity off the face of the earth and repopulate the planet with the seeds of The Great Old Ones. [[ScrewDestiny She's refusing]] [[AntiAntiChrist to do so.]]



* [[AntiVillain Prince Zuko]] in the first two seasons of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Multiple times he has a clear opportunity to coerce Aang by threatening either bystanders or captured prisoners, but he never does. During their first fight, he clearly sees that Aang will surrender instantly to protect innocent bystanders, but never exploits this, and keeps his word to leave the village in peace if Aang surrenders. When he has Katara prisoner, he tries to bargain with her and appeal to her better nature rather than threaten or coerce her, and he forces pirates to help him capture Aang rather than use Katara as bait. Likewise, when he has Katara and Sokka prisoner, he still insists on fighting Aang one on one rather than try to use them. [[spoiler:This eventually turns into a full HeelFaceTurn.]]
* The Penguin from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' fancies himself a GentlemanThief (which he would be if his etiquite wasn't so ''terrible'') and follows a code of honor, stating at one point that he refused to go after Two-Face while in the hospital as "kidnapping a fellow rogue from his sick bed just isn't done". It also helps that he's the only one of the rogue's gallery to ''not'' be insane, thus his crimes all center around monetary gain rather than revenge or just sheer insanity and tend cause much less collateral damage.



* [[AffablyEvil David]] [[MagnificentBastard Xanatos]] of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' has had his moments where he tried to appear more callous than he really is, usually where his [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove feelings for Fox are concerned]]:
-->'''Owen:''' You've never looked more heroic.
-->''[[{{beat}} Pause]]''
-->'''Xanatos:''' A momentary lapse, I assure you.
** Macbeth counts as well. Practically ''all'' of his actions in the show are driven by [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou his desire to kill Demona- both for revenge for her betrayal and just wanting to finally die]], but he outright refuses to take the easy way out by smashing her to bits when she's in stone form during the day, preferring to beat her in a fair fight. Notably, Macbeth only attacked Goliath's clan in his introductory episode because he thought they were Demona's allies. In all subsequent episodes, he refuses to harm anyone outside of his feud with Demona.
* In the [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983 He-Man]] and [[WesternAnimation/SheRaPrincessOfPower She-Ra]] Christmas Special, Skeletor gradually falls under the influence of the Christmas spirit, causing him to become this for a time. He does not enjoy the experience.



* Gene from ''WesternAnimation/IronManArmoredAdventures''. Despite technically being the BigBad, he puts himself and his (cough) ''[[TheMafia business]]'' at considerable risk to save a girl when TheHero could not (she's not a LoveInterest, not a MacGuffin, not an ActionGirl that could be useful to him, just a friend).
* Nightmare Moon from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' despite being DrunkOnTheDarkSide doesn't seem to want to harm her subjects. Compare how she merely tried to block and distract the [[FanNickname Mane 6]] to how she actively tried to ''kill'' Princess Celestia.
** Discord seems largely unwilling to kill or hurt ponies, at least physically. (He's fine with MindRape, until his HeelFaceTurn.) BlueAndOrangeMorality is usually cited as an explanation; dead ponies just aren't fun to play with.
* Brain from ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain'' is a WellIntentionedExtremist EvilGenius, but if the push comes to shove, he'll choose the PowerOfFriendship over [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]]: he ''did'' take over the world in one of the Christmas episodes thanks to toy bears that hypnotized people, but when he realized how badly he had alienated Pinky and crossed a line he shouldn't have, [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments his only order was for everyone to just have a happy Christmas and be with people they cared about]]; another episode had Pinky sell his soul to Satan to give Brain world domination, but Brain eventually decided that if he couldn't rule with Pinky by his side, he wouldn't rule at all.
** Whenever the world is in danger from some other threat, Brain will do whatever he can to save the world. ("So it is available to take over tomorrow night.")
* Alvin from the ''WesternAnimation/SabrinaTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Planet of the Dogs". He starts off as a normal dog, but when Sabrina neglects him, he gains the ability to speak from the Spooky Jar and becomes the leader of a gang of mistreated dogs. Also, he kidnaps Sabrina's family but never puts them in mortal danger.
* Captain Skyhook from ''The Space Kidettes'' is a pathological Noble Demon. His evil minion, Static, enthusiastically suggests all sorts of gruesome villainy to be done to the Kidettes, only to be chastised by Skyhook, who replies that "They're just itsy bitsy, teeny weeny little kids!", and promptly bashes Static's helmet in.
* Red X from ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', so very, very much. He's a [[GentlemanThief talented thief]] using powered suit that he stole from Robin to commit crimes, and he outright tells Robin that he ''likes'' being a criminal. On the other hand, whenever Red X shows up, he inevitably ends up doing ''something'' good in spite of himself, up to and including making enemies out of nine other supervillains to ensure Robin [[ItMakesSenseInContext wins a race]]. He did consider attacking Raven and Starfire's vehicle too, but changes his mind at the last minute, telling the girls, "Tell Robin we're even... For now" before he left.
* Duncan from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' becomes this when he plays the villainous role, though he's usually an AntiHero. He's a {{Jerkass}} delinquent who loves to push people's buttons, but usually he's just [[SlaveToPR playing up his bad boy reputation]] so he doesn't seem "soft".




* Alvin from the ''WesternAnimation/SabrinaTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "Planet of the Dogs". He starts off as a normal dog, but when Sabrina neglects him, he gains the ability to speak from the Spooky Jar and becomes the leader of a gang of mistreated dogs. Also, he kidnaps Sabrina's family but never puts them in mortal danger.
* [[AffablyEvil David]] [[MagnificentBastard Xanatos]] of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' has had his moments where he tried to appear more callous than he really is, usually where his [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove feelings for Fox are concerned]]:
-->'''Owen:''' You've never looked more heroic.
-->''[[{{beat}} Pause]]''
-->'''Xanatos:''' A momentary lapse, I assure you.
** Macbeth counts as well. Practically ''all'' of his actions in the show are driven by [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou his desire to kill Demona- both for revenge for her betrayal and just wanting to finally die]], but he outright refuses to take the easy way out by smashing her to bits when she's in stone form during the day, preferring to beat her in a fair fight. Notably, Macbeth only attacked Goliath's clan in his introductory episode because he thought they were Demona's allies. In all subsequent episodes, he refuses to harm anyone outside of his feud with Demona.
* Brain from ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain'' is a WellIntentionedExtremist EvilGenius, but if the push comes to shove, he'll choose the PowerOfFriendship over [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]]: he ''did'' take over the world in one of the Christmas episodes thanks to toy bears that hypnotized people, but when he realized how badly he had alienated Pinky and crossed a line he shouldn't have, [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments his only order was for everyone to just have a happy Christmas and be with people they cared about]]; another episode had Pinky sell his soul to Satan to give Brain world domination, but Brain eventually decided that if he couldn't rule with Pinky by his side, he wouldn't rule at all.
** Whenever the world is in danger from some other threat, Brain will do whatever he can to save the world. ("So it is available to take over tomorrow night.")
* [[AntiVillain Prince Zuko]] in the first two seasons of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Multiple times he has a clear opportunity to coerce Aang by threatening either bystanders or captured prisoners, but he never does. During their first fight, he clearly sees that Aang will surrender instantly to protect innocent bystanders, but never exploits this, and keeps his word to leave the village in peace if Aang surrenders. When he has Katara prisoner, he tries to bargain with her and appeal to her better nature rather than threaten or coerce her, and he forces pirates to help him capture Aang rather than use Katara as bait. Likewise, when he has Katara and Sokka prisoner, he still insists on fighting Aang one on one rather than try to use them. [[spoiler:This eventually turns into a full HeelFaceTurn.]]
* Duncan from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' becomes this when he plays the villainous role, though he's usually an AntiHero. He's a {{Jerkass}} delinquent who loves to push people's buttons, but usually he's just [[SlaveToPR playing up his bad boy reputation]] so he doesn't seem "soft".
* Captain Skyhook from ''The Space Kidettes'' is a pathological Noble Demon. His evil minion, Static, enthusiastically suggests all sorts of gruesome villainy to be done to the Kidettes, only to be chastised by Skyhook, who replies that "They're just itsy bitsy, teeny weeny little kids!", and promptly bashes Static's helmet in.
* Gene from ''WesternAnimation/IronManArmoredAdventures''. Despite technically being the BigBad, he puts himself and his (cough) ''[[TheMafia business]]'' at considerable risk to save a girl when TheHero could not (she's not a LoveInterest, not a MacGuffin, not an ActionGirl that could be useful to him, just a friend).
* Carmen Sandiego from ''Series/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego''. Sure, she'll steal priceless works of art, monuments, archeological digs, etc. but she won't harm anyone. In fact, if Zach and Ivy are in trouble, she'll rescue them. To her, its just a game to play and she only chose it because catching bad guys as an ACME agent was too easy for her.



* Red X from ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', so very, very much. He's a [[GentlemanThief talented thief]] using powered suit that he stole from Robin to commit crimes, and he outright tells Robin that he ''likes'' being a criminal. On the other hand, whenever Red X shows up, he inevitably ends up doing ''something'' good in spite of himself, up to and including making enemies out of nine other supervillains to ensure Robin [[ItMakesSenseInContext wins a race]]. He did consider attacking Raven and Starfire's vehicle too, but changes his mind at the last minute, telling the girls, "Tell Robin we're even... For now" before he left.
* In the [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983 He-Man]] and [[WesternAnimation/SheRaPrincessOfPower She-Ra]] Christmas Special, Skeletor gradually falls under the influence of the Christmas spirit, causing him to become this for a time. He does not enjoy the experience.
* The Penguin from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' fancies himself a GentlemanThief (which he would be if his etiquite wasn't so ''terrible'') and follows a code of honor, stating at one point that he refused to go after Two-Face while in the hospital as "kidnapping a fellow rogue from his sick bed just isn't done". It also helps that he's the only one of the rogue's gallery to ''not'' be insane, thus his crimes all center around monetary gain rather than revenge or just sheer insanity and tend cause much less collateral damage.
* Nightmare Moon from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' despite being DrunkOnTheDarkSide doesn't seem to want to harm her subjects. Compare how she merely tried to block and distract the [[FanNickname Mane 6]] to how she actively tried to ''kill'' Princess Celestia.
** Discord seems largely unwilling to kill or hurt ponies, at least physically. (He's fine with MindRape, until his HeelFaceTurn.) BlueAndOrangeMorality is usually cited as an explanation; dead ponies just aren't fun to play with.

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* Red X Carmen Sandiego from ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', so very, very much. He's a [[GentlemanThief talented thief]] using powered suit that he stole from Robin to commit crimes, ''Series/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego''. Sure, she'll steal priceless works of art, monuments, archeological digs, etc. but she won't harm anyone. In fact, if Zach and he outright tells Robin that he ''likes'' being a criminal. On the other hand, whenever Red X shows up, he inevitably ends up doing ''something'' good Ivy are in spite of himself, up to and including making enemies out of nine other supervillains to ensure Robin [[ItMakesSenseInContext wins a race]]. He did consider attacking Raven and Starfire's vehicle too, but changes his mind at the last minute, telling the girls, "Tell Robin we're even... For now" before he left.
* In the [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983 He-Man]] and [[WesternAnimation/SheRaPrincessOfPower She-Ra]] Christmas Special, Skeletor gradually falls under the influence of the Christmas spirit, causing him to become this for a time. He does not enjoy the experience.
* The Penguin from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' fancies himself a GentlemanThief (which he would be if his etiquite wasn't so ''terrible'') and follows a code of honor, stating at one point that he refused to go after Two-Face while in the hospital as "kidnapping a fellow rogue from his sick bed
trouble, she'll rescue them. To her, its just isn't done". It also helps that he's the only one of the rogue's gallery to ''not'' be insane, thus his crimes all center around monetary gain rather than revenge or just sheer insanity and tend cause much less collateral damage.
* Nightmare Moon from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' despite being DrunkOnTheDarkSide doesn't seem to want to harm her subjects. Compare how she merely tried to block and distract the [[FanNickname Mane 6]] to how she actively tried to ''kill'' Princess Celestia.
** Discord seems largely unwilling to kill or hurt ponies, at least physically. (He's fine with MindRape, until his HeelFaceTurn.) BlueAndOrangeMorality is usually cited as an explanation; dead ponies just aren't fun
a game to play with.and she only chose it because catching bad guys as an ACME agent was too easy for her.
2nd Feb '17 5:14:19 PM Vir
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** Cyclonus. He's brutal in combat and serves the Decepticons willingly, but avoids unneeded cruelty and holds a strong code of honor. In the IDW continuity, he refuses to feel bad about actions committed during his time in the war, but strives to be a good person and is driven by a desire to return Cybertron to it's golden age.

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** Cyclonus. He's brutal in combat and serves the Decepticons willingly, but avoids unneeded cruelty and holds a strong code of honor. In the IDW continuity, he refuses to feel bad about actions committed during his time in the war, but strives to be a good person and is driven by a desire to return Cybertron to it's its golden age.
7th Jan '17 9:01:56 PM ElectroKraken
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** From the same universe and [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer]] its sister series]] several editions earlier, we had the Chaos God Khorne pre-{{Flanderization}}, whose servants generally fought with some degree of honor, and would frequently spare noncombatants on the basis of them not being {{Worthy Opponent}}s. There were even cases of Khorne sending his daemons after servants who had offered him the skulls of noncombatants or other equally "unworthy" opponents. While this is no longer true of the vast majority of his servants, Khorne himself is still usually portrayed as honorable, and he refuses to allow his servants to use psychic abilities as they would be unfair. He is generally suspicious of Tzeentch, the god of sorcery and secrets, for the same reason.

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** From the same universe and [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} its sister series]] several editions earlier, we had the Chaos God Khorne pre-{{Flanderization}}, whose servants generally fought with some degree of honor, and would frequently spare noncombatants on the basis of them not being {{Worthy Opponent}}s. There were even cases of Khorne sending his daemons after servants who had offered him the skulls of noncombatants or other equally "unworthy" opponents. While this is no longer true of the vast majority of his servants, Khorne himself is still usually portrayed as honorable, and he refuses to allow his servants to use psychic abilities as they would be unfair. He is generally suspicious of Tzeentch, the god of sorcery and secrets, for the same reason.
31st Dec '16 6:29:25 PM Jake18
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* ''Podcast/KakosIndustries'' has VillainProtagonist and CardCarryingVillain Corin Deeth III normally fall into this. He's in charge of one of the biggest [[EvilInc Evil cooperations in the world,]] but is still [[BenevolentBoss a fairly lenient boss]] who honestly cares about his closer companions and has some sense of moral compass, making him far less ruthless than his competitors. He does have the occasional violent outburst and some severe cases LackOfEmpathy at his worst, but is all around a pretty decent person.

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* ''Podcast/KakosIndustries'' has VillainProtagonist and CardCarryingVillain Corin Deeth III normally fall into this. He's in charge of one of the biggest [[EvilInc Evil cooperations corporations in the world,]] but is still [[BenevolentBoss a fairly lenient boss]] who honestly cares about his closer companions and has some sense of moral compass, making him far less ruthless than his competitors. He does have the occasional violent outburst and some severe cases LackOfEmpathy at his worst, but is all around a pretty decent person.
31st Dec '16 6:07:16 PM Jake18
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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': early villain [[spoiler:Accelerator]] becomes this after his character development and HeelFaceTurn to Type IV/V AntiHero near the end of the first season. Although he [[NeverHurtAnInnocent secretly wants to be a hero]], he still thinks of himself as a villain no better than the ones he now kills (and [[CardCarryingVillain proclaims this loudly]] even to those he has rescued) since [[TheAtoner he doesn't believe he can be forgiven]] after [[spoiler:slaughtering 10031 clones]]. Much later in the novels [[spoiler:he ditches this trope and being a CardCarryingVillain entirely and shifts to a [[GoodIsNotNice Type III]] AntiHero, declaring that villainy was just not working out for him and instead moves to VideoGame/BeyondGoodAndEvil]].

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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': early villain [[spoiler:Accelerator]] becomes this after his character development and HeelFaceTurn to Type IV/V AntiHero near the end of the first season. Although he [[NeverHurtAnInnocent secretly wants to be a hero]], he still thinks of himself as a villain no better than the ones he now kills (and [[CardCarryingVillain proclaims this loudly]] even to those he has rescued) since [[TheAtoner he doesn't believe he can be forgiven]] after [[spoiler:slaughtering 10031 clones]]. Much later in the novels [[spoiler:he ditches this trope and being a CardCarryingVillain entirely and shifts to a [[GoodIsNotNice Type III]] AntiHero, declaring that villainy was just not working out for him and instead moves to VideoGame/BeyondGoodAndEvil]].AboveGoodAndEvil]].
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