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13th Oct '17 9:53:24 AM KingLyger
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* Magus from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger''. Everyone thought he was summoning [[EldritchAbomination Lavos]] to win his war in the Middle Ages. [[spoiler:Turns out Lavos destroyed Magus' home and family in the Dark Ages and the whole war was so he'd have an army strong enough to defeat it]]. While in the past it's shown he's always been pretty cold, [[spoiler:he offers your party advice on [[BackFromTheDead how to save Crono]] and his childhood pet cat [[LickedByTheDog follows him around very willingly]]]].

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* Magus from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger''. Everyone thought he was summoning created [[EldritchAbomination Lavos]] to win his war in the Middle Ages. [[spoiler:Turns out Magus was only summoning it, since Lavos has been around since at least the Prehistoric Era of 65 Million BC. Lavos destroyed Magus' home and family in the Dark Ages Ages, and the whole war was so he'd have an army strong enough to defeat it]]. While in the past it's shown he's always been pretty cold, [[spoiler:he offers your party advice on [[BackFromTheDead how to save Crono]] and his childhood pet cat [[LickedByTheDog follows him around very willingly]]]].



* Bowser from ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', partially as the result of VillainDecay. He's done some pretty evil things before in order to win [[DistressedDamsel Peach's]] affection and take over the Mushroom World, including unthinkable things [[CaptainObvious (with obvious evil intentions)]] like nearly bringing about [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the end of the universe]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard and himself with it unintentionally, the latter not part of his plan, but he's unaware of such a possible risk]]. On several occasions, however, he's forced to team up with the Plumbers (and sometimes even Peach herself) to defeat an even greater threat, often because said threat has interfered with ''his'' plans, but he nevertheless unwittingly counters the evil things with good things to an extent. [[Disney/WreckItRalph And they count as at least a step going "Turbo."]] One notable example is in ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'', where Bowser and Peach are ''both'' kidnapped, and forcibly married by a third party to bring about the end of the world. Bowser is a fully playable character in this game, and at one point, Peach even calls him "sweet". (The fact that he still believes his marriage to Peach is valid helps as well...)
** This is especially apparent in his interactions with his minions. One would think that after all of his repeated failures, Bowser's subjects would stop listening to him, and the only reason they would still obey him is out of fear. This isn't true at all. Bowser's minions ADORE their ruler, and seeing him in scenarios like his [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments conversation with an AWOL Goomba]] in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' makes it easy to see why.
* Rubicante from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' is one of the four elemental archfiends serving under Golbez. Nevertheless, he apologizes to a protagonist for [[EvenEvilHasStandards his parents getting turned into monstrosities by a subordinate]], heals the party before fighting them to ensure that the fight is a fair one, and when defeated for the second and last time, accepts his defeat with 'Farewell, valiants.'

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* Bowser from ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', partially as the result of VillainDecay. ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros''. He's done some pretty evil things before in order to win [[DistressedDamsel Peach's]] affection and take over the Mushroom World, Kingdom, including unthinkable things [[CaptainObvious (with obvious evil intentions)]] like nearly bringing about [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the end of the universe]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard and himself with it unintentionally, the latter not part of his plan, but he's unaware of such a possible risk]]. On several occasions, however, he's forced to team up with the Plumbers Mario and Luigi (and sometimes even Peach herself) Peach) to defeat an even greater threat, often because said threat has interfered with ''his'' plans, but he nevertheless unwittingly counters the evil things with good things to an extent. [[Disney/WreckItRalph And they count as at least a step going "Turbo."]] One notable example is in ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'', where Bowser and Peach are ''both'' kidnapped, and forcibly married by a third party to bring about the end of the world. Bowser is a fully playable character in this game, and at one point, Peach even calls him "sweet". (The fact that he still believes his marriage to Peach is valid helps as well...)
) In most spin-off titles, especially the [=RPGs=], Bowser justifies this by saying [[EvilVersusOblivion he wants to conquer the world, not destroy it]], and he's working with the heroes so there's something left to conquer.
** This is especially apparent in his interactions with his minions. One would think that after all of his repeated failures, Bowser's subjects would stop listening to him, and the only reason they would still obey him is out of fear. This isn't true at all. Bowser's minions ADORE adore their ruler, and seeing him in scenarios like his [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments conversation with an AWOL Goomba]] in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' makes it easy to see why.
* Rubicante from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' is one of the four elemental archfiends serving under Golbez. Nevertheless, he apologizes to a protagonist for [[EvenEvilHasStandards his Edge's parents getting turned into monstrosities by a subordinate]], Rubicante's subordinate Dr. Lugae]], since Lugae did that [[ForTheEvulz purely for the hell of it rather than to serve any goal]]. Rubicante also heals the party before fighting them to ensure that the fight is a fair one, and when defeated for the second and last final time, accepts his defeat with 'Farewell, valiants.'"[[WorthyOpponent Farewell, valiants]]."
22nd Sep '17 10:01:47 AM OlmoJV
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* ''Fanfic/HopeForTheHeartless'': Through CharacterDevelopment, the [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron Horned King]] gradually heads to this direction, complying to [[MoralityPet Avalina's]] pleas to be more merciful. Despite the good he does to her and others, he insists that he's irreversibly the Master of All Evil, despite what Avalina or [[EvilerThanThou his former master Arawn]] might think.
7th Sep '17 9:23:59 AM CosmicFerret
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* This could be said of [[TheFlash The Rogues]] because they have a code of "ethics" that they live by and consider themselves above killing women and children. Captain Cold is a particular stand out in this regard. This is also the reason they generally keep to themselves and don't work with [[LegionOfDoom the Secret Society]]; they're so stubborn and honor-bound that more amoral villains like Lex Luthor can't manipulate them, and instead alienate them by proposing schemes that none of the Rogues can stomach.

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* This could be said of [[TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash The Rogues]] because they have a code of "ethics" that they live by and consider themselves above killing women and children. Captain Cold is a particular stand out in this regard. This is also the reason they generally keep to themselves and don't work with [[LegionOfDoom the Secret Society]]; they're so stubborn and honor-bound that more amoral villains like Lex Luthor can't manipulate them, and instead alienate them by proposing schemes that none of the Rogues can stomach.
4th Sep '17 1:14:24 PM gophergiggles
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** The sphinx from "Daring Done" is willing to strong-arm (paw?) food out of the ponies to the point they're starving, and she ''is'' willing to cheat by demanding a second chance, but when she's beaten at her own game she stays true to her terms and leaves. Considering she's about 200X the ponies size, apparently able to warp reality to a degree, and capable of breathing fire, there was nothing stopping her from just eating Somnambula and continuing her reign of terror.
1st Sep '17 4:11:12 AM MGD107
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* In ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' we have Morgause. When trying to kill the king of Camelot (a dude who drowns children) she puts everyone who might try to fight her immortal soldiers under a sleeping spell. While considered the villain, she actually doesn't do much of anything that is really evil, and has a lower body count than the heroes.

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* In ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' we have Morgause. When trying to kill the king of Camelot (a dude who drowns children) she puts everyone who might try to fight her immortal soldiers under a sleeping spell. While considered the villain, she actually doesn't do much of anything that is really evil, and has a lower body count than the heroes. Ultimately Subverted, as the next season shows she'll happily murder innocents, engage in slavery, backstab her own lover and is responsible for corrupting Morganna.
31st Aug '17 1:37:46 AM PaulA
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* ''Film/ThreeTenToYuma'': Ben Wade.
-->'''Wade''': Kid, I wouldn't last five minutes leading an outfit like that if I wasn't as rotten as hell.

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* ''Film/ThreeTenToYuma'': ''Film/ThreeTenToYuma2007'': Ben Wade.
-->'''Wade''': -->'''Wade:''' Kid, I wouldn't last five minutes leading an outfit like that if I wasn't as rotten as hell.
8th Jul '17 1:37:26 PM CG-Druid
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* ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' has several examples.
** In the anime, Isley ends the war in the north, because he does not want any more Awakened Beings from his army to be killed in battle (indirectly, he also rescues many warriornesses).
** Rigaldo has killed several warriornesses, but he seemed to care about killing them in a fair fight, and did not was sadistic about torturing his opponents.
** Chronos and Lars were single-digit warriors in the first generation, and became two very strong Awakened Beings. However, when they notice that the fighting style of Raki is very similar to Isley's, they are quite polite with him and seem to have no intention of attacking and eating him.


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* Tamura Reiko from ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}'' is a monstrous parasite that eats humans. However, she does not hold any meaningless bloodbaths and acts of violence. She even strives to live together between humans and parasites. In addition, she has a long time over, Shinichi and Migi protected from the other parasites.
4th Jul '17 9:02:05 PM KillerClowns
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}'', the Fatebinder is a VillainProtagonist serving the resident EvilOverlord, Kyros, and their [[TheEmpire Empire]]. Kyros' laws are harsh and draconian, but Fatebinders are given a lot of leeway in interpretation -- even if they don't outright pull a HeelFaceTurn, the player Fatebinder can very much play this role.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}'', the Fatebinder is a VillainProtagonist serving the resident EvilOverlord, Kyros, and their [[TheEmpire Empire]]. Kyros' laws are harsh and draconian, but Fatebinders are given a lot of leeway in interpretation -- even if they don't outright pull a HeelFaceTurn, the player Fatebinder can very much play this role. It gets particularly bad if they ''do'' join [[LaResistance the Vendrian Guard]], but keep insisting they're doing it [[NotInThisForYourRevolution just to amass their own power base]] to TakeOverTheWorld; whatever their reasons, the epilogue makes it clear a Vendrian-aligned Fatebinder's actions greatly benefit the Tiers.
30th Jun '17 3:34:22 AM Suncatcher
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*** In fact this trope was deliberately invoked in-universe. Age after age, the forces of evil would attempt to conquer the world, get most of the way there, determine that victory was inevitable, then start to turn on each other as each petty evil overlord tried to come out on top of the others when the dust settled, which gave the heroes the chance to regroup and turn things around. Takhisis was sick and tired of this, so she discarded the majority of her forces, all the hordes of monsters and minor tyrants, in order to found a knightly order who would follow a strict code of conduct and honor. They were much less powerful overall than her previous armies, but their unity and integrity made them much more dangerous than the less discriminate monsters of the past.
14th Jun '17 1:13:51 PM mkmlp
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* ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'': Kyouya insists that he is an egotist with nothing in common with ShelteredAristocrat Tamaki. Despite this, his long-suffering of Tamaki's antics, which includes wearing ridiculous costumes on a daily basis (as a female more than once), is noblity in itself. He ''says'' that it's all to keep Tamaki looking like a golden child, to the point where it costs Kyouya favor with his own father. That's a bit too self-sacrificing for the so-called Evil Lord, isn't it?

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* ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'': Kyouya insists that he is an egotist with nothing in common with ShelteredAristocrat Tamaki. Despite this, his long-suffering of Tamaki's antics, which includes wearing ridiculous costumes on a daily basis (as a female more than once), is noblity nobility in itself. He ''says'' that it's all to keep Tamaki looking like a golden child, to the point where it costs Kyouya favor with his own father. That's a bit too self-sacrificing for the so-called Evil Lord, isn't it?it?
* The titular character in ''Overlord2012'', though very ruthless and ultimately self-serving, most of his worst actions are [[AssholeVictim directed at beings more evil than himself]], he treats the subjects of Nazarick like they are family, [[AFatherToHisMen thinks of his personnel guardians like his children]], and treats his conquered subjects generally well, and he has a very good track record of keeping his end of the bargain when invoking DealWithTheDevil scenarios.
** Among his subordinates, we have [[BattleButler Sebas Tian]] and [[BloodKnight Cocytus]] who unlike the rest of his guardians, are not hostile to those considered weaker than themselves and are more often then not friendly to others, unless provoked.
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