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8th Mar '17 11:16:19 AM nombretomado
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* Subverted in most ''{{Mechwarrior}}'' games. Standing in water is a fantastic idea, because your heat sinks work better when water-cooled, allowing you to ignore your heat gauge. Since heat is the primary limiting factor for energy weapons, can we say BeamSpam?

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* Subverted in most ''{{Mechwarrior}}'' ''VideoGame/MechWarrior'' games. Standing in water is a fantastic idea, because your heat sinks work better when water-cooled, allowing you to ignore your heat gauge. Since heat is the primary limiting factor for energy weapons, can we say BeamSpam?
20th Feb '17 8:16:06 PM BattleMaster
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* Most units in ''TabletopGame/{{BattleTech}}'' are effectively immediately destroyed if they ever find themselves in too-deep water; they can generally be recovered and dried out reasonably easily after the battle, but they're definitely out of the fight. [=BattleMechs=] and, of course, submarines are the main exceptions, with all locations being waterproof as long as they still have armor remaining and the flooding of just one or two locations not even necessarily putting a 'Mech out of commission (although a submarine in that situation is out of luck). The waterproofing is not perfect -- any hit to a submerged location has a chance of causing a leak and taking all systems there offline even if there ''is'' still armor left, though there's an optional piece of equipment that can deal with even that --, but by and large it works. (Note also that this is specifically full immersion. Ships can of course still travel on the surface, hovercraft can skim ''over'' water as long as they're still mobile -- though they sink if they're ever immobilized --, and no unit is ever damaged or disabled by simple ''rain''.) Also, Battle Armor are explicitly noted as being able to survive immersion quite well (so long as it's not too deep, anyway)- the reason that they're considered destroyed if dropped into a water hex is that unless a battle armor suit mounts specialized underwater maneuvering equipment, it's far too slow and cumbersome to actually go anywhere within the time scale of a standard game.

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* Most units in ''TabletopGame/{{BattleTech}}'' are effectively immediately destroyed if they ever find themselves in too-deep water; they can generally be recovered and dried out reasonably easily after the battle, but they're definitely out of the fight. [=BattleMechs=] and, of course, submarines are the main exceptions, with all locations being waterproof as long as they still have armor remaining and the flooding of just one or two locations not even necessarily putting a 'Mech out of commission (although a submarine in that situation is out of luck). The waterproofing is not perfect -- any hit to a submerged location has a chance of causing a leak and taking all systems there offline even if there ''is'' still armor left, though there's an optional piece of equipment that can deal with even that --, but by and large it works. (Note also that this is specifically full immersion. Ships can of course still travel on the surface, hovercraft can skim ''over'' water as long as they're still mobile -- though they sink if they're ever immobilized --, and no unit is ever damaged or disabled by simple ''rain''.) ) Conventional tracked vehicles can also be outfitted with total environmental sealing, allowing them to (slowly) move underwater, but this is generally regarded as impractical and they have the same weaknesses as submarines. Also, Battle Armor are explicitly noted as being able to survive immersion quite well (so long as it's not too deep, deep and their life support system isn't exhausted, anyway)- the reason that they're considered destroyed if dropped into a water hex is that unless a battle armor suit mounts specialized underwater maneuvering equipment, it's far too slow and cumbersome to actually go anywhere within the time scale of a standard game.
16th Feb '17 12:49:56 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' downplays it little. The Megazord can function underwater, but it's clearly at a disadvantage when submerged. However, the Dragonzord ''is'' fully waterproof and skilled in aquatic combat, which proves an asset against the [[MonsterOfTheWeek Oysetrizer.]]
15th Feb '17 9:44:33 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Taken to ridiculous extremes in the FiveEpisodePilot of ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'', where Cobra Commanders attempt to use the M.A.S.S. Device on New York City is foiled by a gutsy slave girl who throws a mop bucket of water on it.
* ''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko''; in one episode, XANA commandeers the computer at the M.I.R. Space Station to build weaponry, meaning the heroes have to break it; when Jeremie cautions them to make it look like an accident, they manage to do so by simply breaking a pipe.
15th Feb '17 9:36:28 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Zigzagged with the Machine Empire in ''Series/PowerRangersZeo''. The MechaMooks they have cannot tolerate water and blow their fuses if they even touch it, but higher ranking members can withstand exposure, although they don't like it; Klang complains that he's going to rust in one scene where he's only about ankle-deep.
26th Jan '17 10:03:54 PM Eddy1215
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* Played lethally straight for Victor Von Ion from RatchetAndClank. He shorts out from even the smallest amount of water and it's ultimately Clank's act of turning on a fire-suppression system that does him in.
26th Jan '17 7:15:46 PM Andre
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* Played lethally straight for Victor Von Ion from RatchetAndClank. He shorts out from even the smallest amount of water and it's ultimately Clank's act of turning on a fire-suppression system that does him in.
16th Jan '17 4:15:06 AM Vir
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* In [[TransformersFilmSeries the 2007 Transformers movie]], Ironhide complains that Sam's dog peeing on his foot will cause it to rust. This from the robot that had survived ''atmospheric reentry'' a couple hours before. And landed ''in a swimming pool.'' Granted, urine is generally more salty than water, but he ''survived re-entry intact''. However, given that he is a crotchety old bot, he was likely just looking for an excuse to kill the dog.

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* In [[TransformersFilmSeries the 2007 Transformers movie]], ''Film/{{Transformers}}'', Ironhide complains that Sam's dog peeing on his foot will cause it to rust. This from the robot that had survived ''atmospheric reentry'' a couple hours before. And landed ''in a swimming pool.'' Granted, urine is generally more salty than water, but he ''survived re-entry intact''. However, given that he is a crotchety old bot, he was likely just looking for an excuse to kill the dog.



** Apparently in ROTF, [[spoiler: the Constructicons are waterproof to the point where they can resurrect and operate on Megatron at the bottom of the Laurentian Abyss. Megatron himself appears little worse for wear for his stay there besides a bit of rust. Although Megatron ''was'' dead, which would account for the rust aside from water (i.e. he was a "rusting" mechanical corpse).]]
*** [[spoiler: Plus, not long before he was submerged in the ocean Megatron also spent decades frozen solid, first buried in the arctic regions and then chemically frozen at the Hoover Dam. The fact that Megatron only just rusting a little after all that is a testament to a Cybertronian's resilence.]]

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** Apparently in ROTF, ''[[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen Revenge of the Fallen]]'', [[spoiler: the Constructicons are waterproof to the point where they can resurrect and operate on Megatron at the bottom of the Laurentian Abyss. Megatron himself appears little worse for wear for his stay there besides a bit of rust. Although Megatron ''was'' dead, which would account for the rust aside from water (i.e. he was a "rusting" mechanical corpse).]]
*** [[spoiler: Plus, not long before he was submerged in the ocean Megatron also spent decades frozen solid, first buried in the arctic regions and then chemically frozen at the Hoover Dam. The fact that Megatron was only just rusting a little after all that is a testament to a Cybertronian's resilence.]]
16th Jan '17 4:08:42 AM Vir
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* In ''WesternAnimation/RatchetAndClank2016'', Clank mentions that he is waterproof, but Chairman Drek's [[TheDragon Dragon]] Victor von Ion is not. Clank defeats him by rusting him with a cloud generated by the Thundersmack.
11th Jan '17 5:37:43 PM MiddleEighth
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*Averted, though it isn't exactly the future, in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''. Some robotic tentacles grab Paul and try to tear him apart. [[NighInvulnerable (It doesn't work.)]] When George asks John why [[MakingASplash he doesn't rust them into uselessness]], John notes that he can't affect them, since he can feel that they're rustproof.
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