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20th Apr '18 12:48:40 PM Kalaong
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* ''Film/JackReacher'' has one of the few rational examples of the trope: [[spoiler:if the real killer was US Army sniper James Barr, he would have picked the best possible vantage point for the shooting spree (one that forces targets to walk towards or away, and with the sun to the shooter's back). Instead, the shooter picked the worst (sun in the shooter's eyes, with targets walking left and right) indicating that the shooting location was chosen to hold the resulting OrgyOfEvidence instead of practicality]].

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* ''Film/JackReacher'' has one of the few rational examples of the trope: [[spoiler:if the real killer was US Army sniper James Barr, he would have picked the best possible vantage point for the shooting spree (one that forces targets to walk towards or away, and with the sun to the shooter's back). Instead, the shooter picked the worst (sun in the shooter's eyes, with targets walking left and right) indicating that the shooting location was chosen to hold the resulting OrgyOfEvidence instead of practicality]].practicality -- especially since he lacked the ImprobableAimingSkills to make shots from such a bad vantage point, and his BoringButPractical training was based on ''choosing the best place from which to shoot'']].
8th Apr '18 11:48:22 AM Jeduthun
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* If the action axiomatically [note]referring to base reasoning principles[/note] or logically disqualifies one from inclusion in the group, such as "No true bachelor is married" or "No true triangle has four sides." For example, "No right-handed person predominantly uses their left hand" is not fallacious because right-handed people are defined as those who predominantly use their right hand. Someone who is calling themselves "right-handed" but predominantly uses their left hand either is lying or doesn't understand the distinction between "right-handed" and "left-handed" people.

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* If the action axiomatically [note]referring [[note]]referring to base reasoning principles[/note] principles[[/note]] or logically disqualifies one from inclusion in the group, such as "No true bachelor is married" or "No true triangle has four sides." For example, "No right-handed person predominantly uses their left hand" is not fallacious because right-handed people are defined as those who predominantly use their right hand. Someone who is calling themselves "right-handed" but predominantly uses their left hand either is lying or doesn't understand the distinction between "right-handed" and "left-handed" people.
8th Apr '18 11:47:49 AM Jeduthun
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** Even if a group doesn't have a formal membership standards system, it can have widely accepted standards what does and doesn't constitute responsible/acceptable actions. For example its not fallacious to say that "no responsible gun owner [[ArtisticLicenseGunSafety would do that,]]" because someone violating gun safety rules is by definition acting irresponsibly.

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** Even if a group doesn't have a formal membership standards system, it can have widely accepted standards what does and doesn't constitute responsible/acceptable actions. For example its example, it's not fallacious to say that "no responsible gun owner [[ArtisticLicenseGunSafety would do that,]]" because someone violating gun safety rules is by definition acting irresponsibly.



* If the action axiomatically (referring to (a) base reasoning principle(s)) or logically disqualifies one from inclusion in the group. For example, "No right-handed person predominantly uses their left hand" is not fallacious because right-handed people are defined as those who predominantly use their right hand. Someone who is calling themselves "right-handed" but predominantly uses their left hand either is lying or doesn't understand the distinction between "right-handed" and "left-handed" people.

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* If the action axiomatically (referring [note]referring to (a) base reasoning principle(s)) principles[/note] or logically disqualifies one from inclusion in the group. group, such as "No true bachelor is married" or "No true triangle has four sides." For example, "No right-handed person predominantly uses their left hand" is not fallacious because right-handed people are defined as those who predominantly use their right hand. Someone who is calling themselves "right-handed" but predominantly uses their left hand either is lying or doesn't understand the distinction between "right-handed" and "left-handed" people.
26th Mar '18 5:56:19 PM Snet1939
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* ''Film/CloudAtlas'': Inverted, invoked, and exploited by Mr. Meeks in the pub.
12th Mar '18 3:32:25 PM LordGro
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[[caption-width-right:200:His beard's not long enough! He doesn't count!]]

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[[caption-width-right:200:His beard's not long enough! He doesn't count!]]
[[caption-width-right:200:[[VisualPun We may be taking this trope a bit too literally.]]]]
12th Mar '18 10:05:24 AM KingLyger
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[[caption-width-right:200:[[VisualPun We may be taking this trope a bit too literally.]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:200:[[VisualPun We may be taking this trope a bit too literally.]]]]
[[caption-width-right:200:His beard's not long enough! He doesn't count!]]
6th Mar '18 1:32:55 AM alnair20aug93
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* HatdomHeresy (an ''extreme'' variant of it ([[Administrativia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and that's all we're gonna say about it]]))
3rd Mar '18 11:04:31 PM AppleGates
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* HatdomHeresy (an ''extreme'' variant of it ([[Administrativia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and that's all we're gonna say about it]]))
26th Feb '18 7:06:26 PM intastiel
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', a cleric of Loki {{Invert|edTrope}}s this when Elan [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1113.html points out]] that worshiping a trickster god seems at odds with [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame dwarven stereotypes]]:
-->'''Elan:''' Worshiping Loki doesn't seem very... I dunno... Dwarf-y.\\
'''Cleric:''' That's what everyone says, but I'm a dwarf, so it must be.
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7th Feb '18 11:26:59 PM alnair20aug93
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* HatdomHeresy (an ''extreme'' variant of it ([[Administrativia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and that's all we're gonna say about it]]))
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