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9th Sep '17 7:01:40 PM SSJMagus
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** Another episode features a character suffering progressive brain damage, and having their brain supplemented with computer implants. Once their organic brain is completely destroyed, the doctor just lets the character die because nobody sees any point in keeping them alive, despite the fact that in-universe the character is still a sapient, sentient being with all of his original memories. However, the character in question didn't feel like himself with the implants and wasn't really interested in living a shadow life.
* In a plot arc of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', they revisit the "augment" point. Apparently examining their genetic code with 22nd century technology, they discover that there really was a flaw in the process. A subtle flaw in their enhanced neurology also created increased aggression. An ironic aspect of all of this is that the Augments really were not ridiculously powerful. Indeed, all things considered they were only slightly superior to most Vulcans, and not in all respects. It was simply that they tended to use their enhanced abilities in a very aggressive way. But numerous Federation species possess greater-than-human attributes. Vulcans are the most obvious example. But you also have the Betazoids, who are human-like but possess telepathic powers. Then there are the El-Aurian's, who have incredibly long lifespans. Peculiarly, there is no fear of transhuman traits being acquired via [[HalfHumanHybrid interbreeding]] with alien races. But trying to gain the exact same traits via genetic engineering is considered a taboo.

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** Another episode features a character suffering progressive brain damage, and having their brain supplemented with computer implants. Once their organic brain is completely destroyed, the doctor just lets the character die because nobody sees any point in keeping them alive, despite the fact that in-universe the character is still a sapient, sentient being with all of his original memories. However, the character in question didn't feel like himself with the implants and wasn't really interested in living a shadow life.
life, believing that if the last part of his cerebrum were artificially replaced (even with his memories intact via the posotronic implants) the result would simply be an android copy of him rather than actually ''him''.
* In a plot arc of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', they revisit the "augment" point. Apparently examining their genetic code with 22nd century technology, they discover that there really was a flaw in the process. A subtle flaw in their enhanced neurology also created increased aggression. An ironic aspect of all of this is that the Augments really were not ridiculously powerful. Indeed, all things considered they were only slightly superior to most Vulcans, and not in all respects. It was simply that they tended to use their enhanced abilities in a very aggressive way. But numerous Federation species possess greater-than-human attributes. Vulcans are the most obvious example. But you also have the Betazoids, who are human-like but possess telepathic powers. Then there are the El-Aurian's, who have incredibly long lifespans.lifespans and [[RippleProofMemory immunity to alterations in the timeline]]. Peculiarly, there is no fear of transhuman traits being acquired via [[HalfHumanHybrid interbreeding]] with alien races. But trying to gain the exact same traits via genetic engineering is considered a taboo.
9th Sep '17 2:39:31 AM Jake
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** Artificial lifeforms like Data, Lal, and [=EMH-1=] have to prove they are deserving of rights. [[AesopAmnesia Over and over again]]. Of course, In fairness... At the time of Data's trial, he was both unique and irreproducible without endangering his life, which was a central point of his defense. When Lal came along, that appeared to no longer be true; although Lal eventually malfunctioned, returning the status quo. The holograms are a much trickier situation, since the early holograms (except Moriarty) apparently were genuinely [[JustAMachine nonsentient]]—and, by the time technology had advanced to the point that ''many'' of them were sentient, they had become completely ubiquitous throughout the Federation, used mostly as ''toys for entertainment.'' The realization that these completely disposable toys might be living, feeling beings should have sent shockwaves of FridgeHorror throughout the Federation, but [[FridgeLogic we never see it happen.]]

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** Artificial lifeforms like Data, Lal, and [=EMH-1=] have to prove they are deserving of rights. [[AesopAmnesia Over and over again]]. Of course, In fairness... At the time of Data's trial, he was both unique and irreproducible without endangering his life, which was a central point of his defense. When Lal came along, that appeared to no longer be true; although Lal eventually malfunctioned, returning the status quo. The holograms are a much trickier situation, since the early holograms (except Moriarty) apparently were genuinely [[JustAMachine nonsentient]]—and, by the time technology had advanced to the point that ''many'' of them were sentient, they had become completely ubiquitous throughout the Federation, used mostly as ''toys for entertainment.'' The realization that these completely disposable toys might be living, feeling beings should have sent shockwaves of FridgeHorror throughout the Federation, but [[FridgeLogic we never see it happen.]]]] The ExpandedUniverse eventually addressed the issue in more detail, but between a massive Borg attack and its aftermath and the supernova that wiped out Romulus, the question of holographic rights was pushed down the priority list both in-universe and out.
18th Jul '17 6:32:51 PM Franco-America2018
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* Genetic Engineering isn't problem in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4614510/ChadR-2014 most ChadR-2014]] stories, But some stories that when explored Cybernetics in general, is Enforced due of the author have some hatred on technology and kinda feared of creating Cyberpunk story unintentionally.

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* Genetic Engineering isn't problem in most [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4614510/ChadR-2014 most ChadR-2014]] stories, But some stories that when explored Cybernetics in general, is Enforced by pretended it doesn't existed due of the author have some hatred on technology and kinda feared of creating Cyberpunk story unintentionally.
18th Jul '17 6:31:38 PM Franco-America2018
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* Genetic Engineering isn't problem in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4614510/ChadR-2014 most ChadR-2014]] stories, But some stories that when explored Cybernetics in general, is Enforced due of the author have some hatred on technology and kinda feared of creating Cyberpunk story unintentionally.



** But in later episode is very subverted and downplayed ''[[Recap/FuturamaS7E22LeelaAndTheGenestalk Leela and Genestalk]]'' that due of Leela is natural born [[{{Mutant}} mutant]], her genetic mutation is begin re-evolved by created new tentacles early than getting older (just her mother and her grandmother before that), Put due of Earthican law probits Genetic engineering that still has effect fear even ''thousand'' years passed. That Leela eventually supported the idea due of their already cure for her mutation from Mom's flying castle/Biotech facility, And this [[StatusQuoIsGod reversed the mutation as before]].

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** But in later episode is very subverted and downplayed in ''[[Recap/FuturamaS7E22LeelaAndTheGenestalk Leela and the Genestalk]]'' that due of Leela is natural born [[{{Mutant}} mutant]], her genetic mutation is begin re-evolved by created new tentacles early than getting older (just her mother and her grandmother before that), Put due of Earthican law probits Genetic engineering that still has effect fear stigma even ''thousand'' years passed. That Leela eventually supported the idea due of their already cure for her mutation from Mom's flying castle/Biotech Biotech facility, And this [[StatusQuoIsGod reversed the mutation as was before]].
18th Jul '17 6:25:07 PM Franco-America2018
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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'': Played as straight as possible when Hermes starts getting cybornetic upgrades and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope immediately flings himself down the slippery slope]] in a rapid effort to replace his humanity with blatantly evil robotic improvements, and is only redeemed when he becomes completely human again. Apparently the slightest alteration immediately gives you a superiority complex in their world.

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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'': Played as straight as possible when Hermes starts getting cybornetic cybernetic upgrades and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope immediately flings himself down the slippery slope]] in a rapid effort to replace his humanity with blatantly evil robotic improvements, and is only redeemed when he becomes completely human again. Apparently Apparently, the slightest alteration immediately gives you a superiority complex in their world.world.
** But in later episode is very subverted and downplayed ''[[Recap/FuturamaS7E22LeelaAndTheGenestalk Leela and Genestalk]]'' that due of Leela is natural born [[{{Mutant}} mutant]], her genetic mutation is begin re-evolved by created new tentacles early than getting older (just her mother and her grandmother before that), Put due of Earthican law probits Genetic engineering that still has effect fear even ''thousand'' years passed. That Leela eventually supported the idea due of their already cure for her mutation from Mom's flying castle/Biotech facility, And this [[StatusQuoIsGod reversed the mutation as before]].
14th Jun '17 11:13:30 AM Jhamin
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** In one episode, Ensign Barclay is raised to literally godlike superintelligence by an alien probe. He starts out by using it to indulge various personal desires and do his job with superhuman efficiency, then goes off on a power trip to where he hijacks the Enterprise and takes it to meet some nigh-omnipotent aliens -- the probe makers -- who revert him to normal human intelligence. But at no time throughout his several days of apotheosis does it occur to him to devote ''one minute'' to studying his own augmented brain, how it got that way, and how he could possibly reproduce the phenomenon in others. You'd think he'd at ''least'' be interested in checking out 'Is this new rush of brains temporary or permanent? And does it have side effects?' Because he's still ''Barclay.'' Intelligence is not wisdom.

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** In one episode, Ensign Barclay is raised to literally godlike superintelligence by an alien probe. He starts out by using it to indulge various personal desires and do his job with superhuman efficiency, then goes off on a power trip to where he hijacks the Enterprise and takes it to meet some nigh-omnipotent aliens -- the probe makers -- who revert him to normal human intelligence. But at no time throughout his several days of apotheosis does it occur to him to devote ''one minute'' to studying his own augmented brain, how it got that way, and how he could possibly reproduce the phenomenon in others. You'd think he'd at ''least'' As it is eventually revealed that his intelligence was given by the probe for a very specific reason it could be interested in checking out 'Is this new rush of brains temporary or permanent? And does it have side effects?' Because he's still ''Barclay.'' Intelligence argued that the probe's "gift" has strings attached to keep the recipient from duplicating the effect, but that is not wisdom.never addressed (or even questioned) during the episode.
10th Jun '17 11:46:46 AM Rhivana
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* Played straight in the {{Backstory}} of the ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' series with [[{{Ubermensch}} superhuman]] Coordinators and regular Naturals. The first Coordinator was produced in secret and was only revealed when he proved [[TheAce just how superior he was to everyone else]]. A brief period of bandwagon-jumping followed until some people began having concerns about just [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman what their children were becoming]]. (People were mainly just really jealous of the super-enhanced though.) Although Poor George Glenn paid for it with his life, and it went FromBadToWorse to the point where the factions were at war by episode 1.

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* Played straight in the {{Backstory}} of the ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' series with [[{{Ubermensch}} [[BornWinner superhuman]] Coordinators [[DesignerBabies Coordinators]] and regular Naturals. The first Coordinator George Glenn was produced in secret and was only revealed when he proved [[TheAce just how superior he was to everyone else]]. A brief period of bandwagon-jumping followed until some people began having concerns about just [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman what their children were becoming]]. (People were mainly just really jealous of the super-enhanced though.) Although Poor George Glenn paid for it with his life, and it went FromBadToWorse to the point where the factions were at war by episode 1.
20th May '17 3:55:07 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Vandread}}'' follows this to a degree, in that each of the different human worlds has been created/genetically altered for specific organs or traits, and whilst the main villains are robot swarms in the anime, in the manga they're human brains wired into vehicular bodies.

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* ''{{Vandread}}'' ''Anime/{{Vandread}}'' follows this to a degree, in that each of the different human worlds has been created/genetically altered for specific organs or traits, and whilst the main villains are robot swarms in the anime, in the manga they're human brains wired into vehicular bodies.
1st May '17 6:43:33 AM Saber15
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* In ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'', there was very little transhumanism prior to the Clan Invasion bar the rare and fantastically expensive replacement limb. Justified, as known space was involved or recovering from [[ForeverWar 300 years of total warfare]] and the subsequent [[LostTechnology loss of infrastructure and technology]]. However, when the Clans invaded, they did so using test tube warriors born in iron wombs, often sporting bionic replacements for limbs lost in battle, in addition to a small percentage using a direct BrainComputerInterface for controlling their HumongousMecha. Fully averted by the time of the Jihad, where the Word of Blake uses heavily augmented super-soldiers and all the major powers use augmented agents in their intelligence agencies.
30th Apr '17 10:24:00 PM Gamermaster
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* ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' plays an interesting take on this. Purely artificial life is apparently not only allowed but common in the form of magic-based familiars and magic-based augments like [[OlderThanTheyLook ageing retardation/youth maintenance]] are widespread. However, transhuman enhancement with genetic engineering or cybernetics is outlawed. Despite the illegality, no stigma is attached to actually being either since those enhanced rarely had a choice in the matter.

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* ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' plays an interesting take on this. Purely artificial life is apparently not only allowed but common in the form of magic-based familiars and magic-based augments like [[OlderThanTheyLook ageing retardation/youth maintenance]] are widespread. However, transhuman enhancement with genetic engineering or cybernetics is outlawed. [[AndroidsArePeopleToo Despite the illegality, no stigma is attached to actually being either since those enhanced rarely had a choice in the matter.matter]].
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