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30th Apr '16 5:25:17 PM LinTaylor
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' Part 2, ''Battle Tendency'', is actually set just before World War II (1938 to be precise) and features Nazis prominently. The original manga didn't shy away from using the term, but the AnimatedAdaptation simply uses "Germany" or "Germans" instead. This includes the [[MemeticMutation memetic]] part where Rudol von Stroheim declares "German science is the greatest in the world!", but he still does the infamous Nazi salute while saying it.
19th Apr '16 11:36:34 AM erforce
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Many a WorldWarII-based game will not use a swastika to symbolise [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany the Nazis]], instead using the Iron Cross (still a symbol of today's German Army, ''Bundeswehr'', albeit a modified version), the red-white-black tricolor of the 1871-1918 [[ImperialGermany German Empire]] (which was briefly reused by the Nazi regime alongside the swastika flag from 1933 to 1935), or alternatively the Balkenkreuz (pictured at right).

There's a simple reason for this -- in Germany, Russia and some other countries the display of anything Nazi-related in public is prohibited unless it's for educational, artistic or scientific purposes, plus a lot of other contexts. This allows for the use of these symbols in WorldWarII-set films (which are considered art -- yes, even IndianaJones). Children's toys are not covered by these exceptions.

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Many a WorldWarII-based UsefulNotes/WorldWarII-based game will not use a swastika to symbolise [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany the Nazis]], instead using the Iron Cross (still a symbol of today's German Army, ''Bundeswehr'', albeit a modified version), the red-white-black tricolor of the 1871-1918 [[ImperialGermany German Empire]] (which was briefly reused by the Nazi regime alongside the swastika flag from 1933 to 1935), or alternatively the Balkenkreuz (pictured at right).

There's a simple reason for this -- in Germany, Russia and some other countries the display of anything Nazi-related in public is prohibited unless it's for educational, artistic or scientific purposes, plus a lot of other contexts. This allows for the use of these symbols in WorldWarII-set UsefulNotes/WorldWarII-set films (which are considered art -- yes, even IndianaJones).''Franchise/IndianaJones''). Children's toys are not covered by these exceptions.



* Hasbro removed all swastikas from the German soldiers in the 2008 IndianaJones series of figures. For instance, the figure of the German general from ''Last Crusade'' sports a completely black armband on his uniform.

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* Hasbro removed all swastikas from the German soldiers in the 2008 IndianaJones ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series of figures. For instance, the figure of the German general from ''Last Crusade'' ''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade The Last Crusade]]'' sports a completely black armband on his uniform.



* The game ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures]]'' uses generic German soldiers. However, the coloring of the Colonel Vogel minifigure seems to suggest a Nazi eagle and all soldiers have blonde eyebrows and blue eyes instead of the standard black/brown eyebrows and black eyes every other character has.

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* The game ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Indiana Jones: ''VideoGame/LegoIndianaJones: The Original Adventures]]'' Adventures'' uses generic German soldiers. However, the coloring of the Colonel Vogel minifigure seems to suggest a Nazi eagle and all soldiers have blonde eyebrows and blue eyes instead of the standard black/brown eyebrows and black eyes every other character has.



* One of the episodes of ''Series/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow'' was an ''IndianaJones'' parody, in which Koopa and his minions all wore Nazi uniforms with the swastikas replaced with a capital K.

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* One of the episodes of ''Series/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow'' was an ''IndianaJones'' ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' parody, in which Koopa and his minions all wore Nazi uniforms with the swastikas replaced with a capital K.
16th Apr '16 10:15:46 AM hydrix
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The German video game market is also the biggest market for simulator titles and city building games. These are all genres where a swastika has no real reason to appear or exist besides for [[BlackComedy humorous purposes]]. So most of what makes Germany's thriving video game scene has almost no real reason to use UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 symbolism.

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The German video game market is also only the biggest market for simulator titles and city building games. These are all genres where a swastika has no real reason to appear or exist besides for [[BlackComedy humorous purposes]]. So most of what makes Germany's thriving video game scene has almost no real reason to use UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 symbolism.
16th Apr '16 10:08:13 AM hydrix
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The German video game rating bureau USK also refuses to rate video games which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and any other references that is attributed to the swastika (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck or a fictional villain) is not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.

Of course it is odd that the video games do this as Germany is a relatively poor market for war-based games to begin with, especially compared to The United States, Russia and The United Kingdom. Only markets that prefer niche Japanese games at all times (like Japan and France) and places where the video game market is small the genre performs worse than there. That being said, [[CashCowFranchise really mainstream FPS titles]] (like VideoGame/CallOfDuty ) do fare well and still sell in the millions.

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The German video game rating bureau USK also refuses to rate video games which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and any other references that is attributed to the swastika (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck or luck, a fictional villain) villain or [[ThoseWackyNazis cartoonish nazis]]) is not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.

Of course it It is odd that the video games do this as Germany is a relatively poor market for war-based games to begin with, especially compared to The United States, Russia and The United Kingdom. Only markets that prefer niche Japanese games at all times (like Japan and France) and places where the video game market is small the genre performs worse than there. That being said, [[CashCowFranchise really mainstream FPS titles]] (like VideoGame/CallOfDuty ) do fare well and still sell in the millions.
16th Apr '16 10:05:19 AM hydrix
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The the German video game rating bureau USK also refuses to rate video games which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and any other references that is attributed to the swastika (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck) is not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.

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The the German video game rating bureau USK also refuses to rate video games which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and any other references that is attributed to the swastika (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck) luck or a fictional villain) is not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.



* ''VideoGame/VelvetAssassin'', despite it being set in World War II, because Replay Studios is a German company.

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* ''VideoGame/VelvetAssassin'', despite because it is being set in World War II, II and because Replay Studios is a German company.
16th Apr '16 9:53:32 AM hydrix
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Of course it is odd that the video games do this as Germany is a relatively poor market for war-based games to begin with, especially compared to The United States, Russia and The United Kingdom. Only markets that prefer niche Japanese games at all times (like Japan and France) and places where the video game market is small the genre performs worse than there. That being said, [[CashCowFranchise really mainstream FPS titles]] (like VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare3 ) do fare well and still sell in the millions.

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Of course it is odd that the video games do this as Germany is a relatively poor market for war-based games to begin with, especially compared to The United States, Russia and The United Kingdom. Only markets that prefer niche Japanese games at all times (like Japan and France) and places where the video game market is small the genre performs worse than there. That being said, [[CashCowFranchise really mainstream FPS titles]] (like VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare3 VideoGame/CallOfDuty ) do fare well and still sell in the millions.
16th Apr '16 9:52:56 AM hydrix
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The USK (the German video game rating bureau) pretty much refuses to rate video games which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and that any other reference that the swastika has (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck) are not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.

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The USK (the the German video game rating bureau) pretty much bureau USK also refuses to rate video games which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and that any other reference references that is attributed to the swastika has (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck) are is not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.
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Of course it is odd that the video games do this as Germany is a relatively poor market for war-based games to begin with, especially compared to The United States, Russia and The United Kingdom. Only markets that prefer niche Japanese games at all times (like Japan and France) and places where the video game market is small the genre performs worse than there. That being said, [[CashCowFranchise really mainstream FPS titles]] (like VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare3 ) do fare well and still sell in the millions.

The German video game market is also the biggest market for simulator titles and city building games. These are all genres where a swastika has no real reason to appear or exist besides for [[BlackComedy humorous purposes]]. So most of what makes Germany's thriving video game scene has almost no real reason to use UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 symbolism.
16th Apr '16 9:34:08 AM hydrix
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Video games are also considered art, but this development occurred only very recently (they used to be lumped in with children's toys). Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.

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Video The USK (the German video game rating bureau) pretty much refuses to rate video games are also considered art, but this development occurred only very recently (they used which use swastikas in their non-historical context, meaning that a swastika has to be lumped in with children's toys).an explicit reference to the National Socialist German Workers party and that any other reference that the swastika has (such as a Buddhist symbol for good luck) are not allowed. Consequently, Nazi symbols are still not used in games released in Germany, probably due to developers worldwide being so accustomed to being ''unable'' to put them in the games, and thus voluntarily continuing the tradition of an utter lack of Nazi symbols themselves. It saves money to have only one version, avoids losing a market with over 80 million residents and if the game is online, it makes sure that the German version is compatible with that of the rest of the world.



** As of 2014, it is much more prominent for far-right German political parties to feature a red arrow pointing to the right (as seen [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Alternative-fuer-Deutschland-Logo-2013.svg/2000px-Alternative-fuer-Deutschland-Logo-2013.svg.png there]], [[https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/630713274028412928/Lt6b2zji.jpg there]] and [[http://die-rechte.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/logoneu2.jpg there]]) as a TakeThat to the German far left party ''Die Linke'', which has [[http://leftunity.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/logo_die-linke_530x168.png an arrow pointing to the left]].

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** As of 2014, it is much more prominent for far-right German political parties to feature a red an arrow pointing to the right (as seen [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Alternative-fuer-Deutschland-Logo-2013.svg/2000px-Alternative-fuer-Deutschland-Logo-2013.svg.png there]], [[https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/630713274028412928/Lt6b2zji.jpg there]] and [[http://die-rechte.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/logoneu2.jpg there]]) as a TakeThat to the German far left party ''Die Linke'', which has [[http://leftunity.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/logo_die-linke_530x168.png an arrow pointing to the left]].
16th Apr '16 9:17:30 AM hydrix
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** As of 2014, it is much more prominent for far-right German political parties to feature a red arrow pointing to the right (as seen [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Alternative-fuer-Deutschland-Logo-2013.svg/2000px-Alternative-fuer-Deutschland-Logo-2013.svg.png there]], [[https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/630713274028412928/Lt6b2zji.jpg there]] and [[http://die-rechte.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/logoneu2.jpg there]]) as a TakeThat to the German far left party ''Die Linke'', which has [[http://leftunity.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/logo_die-linke_530x168.png an arrow pointing to the left]].




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* One of the controversial aspects of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_%28political_party%29 Golden Dawn political party]] is that [[https://verklighetenisverige.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/henrik-arnstad-ljuger-i-vetenskapens-varld/swastika_meander/ the official symbol used as a flag for the party resembles a swastika]]. It does not help that whether or not the symbol featured is a swastika or meander entirely depends on who you are talking to. Then again the party is as deliberately offensive with Nazi iconography as they can (the leader of the party is nicknamed as ''The Führer'').
17th Mar '16 7:18:54 AM AgProv
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** British model makers Matchbox didn't care and cheerfully put swastika decals into all relevant models. they even manufactured a "diorama base" to display the completed model on, showing a partly destroyed Nazi headquarters, distinguished by an eagle-and-swastika carving to put over the door. Scroll forward in time to when Revell bought out matchbox and started marketing its models. All swastika insignia gone from the decal sheets. And that dirana dase shols an eagle, percehed on a laural wreath, inside which is a shapeless blobby thing.

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** British model makers Matchbox didn't care and cheerfully put swastika decals into all relevant models. they even manufactured a "diorama base" to display the completed model on, showing a partly destroyed Nazi headquarters, distinguished by an eagle-and-swastika carving to put over the door. Scroll forward in time to when Revell bought out matchbox Matchbox and started marketing its models. All swastika insignia gone from the decal sheets. And that dirana dase shols diorama base shows an eagle, percehed perched on a laural laurel wreath, inside which is a shapeless blobby thing.
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