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6th Dec '16 7:42:28 AM MegaMarioMan
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* It's a common practice for companies -- usually ones who can't even hope to pony up the cash to land an ad slot -- to submit a racy/morally offensive/questionable ad to the SuperBowl, causing them to get rejected -- and thus landing them the publicity that comes with getting rejected from the largest stage of the commercial world. The abovementioned Ashley Madison has pulled this stunt.
* PETA. If they're not trying to turn children against their parents with nightmarish pamplets depicting parents happily disemboweling animals or throwing the corpses of euthanized animals on the doorstep of businesses, they're posing nude on the street or writing a will dedicating their bodies to be barbecued in a public venue. Infamy just means the message is getting out there! Really! Even though, if you described half of these shock stunts to a neutral party unfamiliar with them, they'd have ''no bloody idea'' what message that's supposed to be.
** PETA themselves has caused this, though, with their attacks against ''VideoGame/CookingMama'', ''[[VideoGame/MeatBoy Super Meat Boy]]'' and ''SuperMario3DLand'', boosting the games' popularity. Majesco and Edmund [=McMillen=] turned PETA's attacks to their commercial advantages with a TakeThat statement and a {{troll}}ing BatmanGambit respectively as stated above, while Nintendo simply issued a response saying that PETA [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory overanalyzed]] the Tanooki Suit[[note]]if you want to know, the actual statement is: "Mario often takes the appearance of certain animals and objects in his games. These have included [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3 a frog]], [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii a penguin]], [[VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld a balloon]] and even [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 a metallic version of himself]]. These lighthearted and whimsical transformations give Mario different abilities and make his games fun to play. '''The different forms Mario takes make no statement beyond the games themselves'''."[[/note]] (if only because they didn't need bad publicity per se, [[CashCowFranchise Mario being Mario]]).

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* It's a common practice for companies -- usually ones who can't even hope to pony up the cash to land an ad slot -- to submit a racy/morally offensive/questionable ad to the SuperBowl, causing them to get rejected -- and thus landing them the publicity that comes with getting rejected from the largest stage of the commercial world. The abovementioned aforementioned Ashley Madison has pulled this stunt.
* PETA. If they're not trying to turn children against their parents with nightmarish pamplets pamphlets depicting parents happily disemboweling animals or throwing the corpses of euthanized animals on the doorstep of businesses, they're posing nude on the street or writing a will dedicating their bodies to be barbecued in a public venue. Infamy just means the message is getting out there! Really! Even though, if you described half of these shock stunts to a neutral party unfamiliar with them, they'd have ''no bloody idea'' what message that's supposed to be.
** PETA themselves has caused this, though, with their attacks against ''VideoGame/CookingMama'', ''[[VideoGame/MeatBoy Super Meat Boy]]'' and ''SuperMario3DLand'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DLand'', boosting the games' popularity. Majesco and Edmund [=McMillen=] turned PETA's attacks to their commercial advantages with a TakeThat statement and a {{troll}}ing BatmanGambit respectively as stated above, while Nintendo simply issued a response saying that PETA [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory overanalyzed]] the Tanooki Suit[[note]]if you want to know, the actual statement is: "Mario often takes the appearance of certain animals and objects in his games. These have included [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3 a frog]], [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii a penguin]], [[VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld a balloon]] and even [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 a metallic version of himself]]. These lighthearted and whimsical transformations give Mario different abilities and make his games fun to play. '''The different forms Mario takes make no statement beyond the games themselves'''."[[/note]] (if only because they didn't need bad publicity per se, [[CashCowFranchise Mario being Mario]]).
26th Nov '16 10:13:38 AM DesertDragon
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* Music/{{Eminem}}'s enormous popularity was fueled by the amount of people protesting him (especially at the Grammies) constantly. He got hate from both sides of the political spectrum; the bible thumping Christians on the right and from gay rights groups like GLAAD and feminist groups on the left for his supposedly homophobic lyrics and for songs like "Kim" and "Stan" being accused of promoting violence against women, respectively. And he knows it; he said at an awards show that "Every time a critic pans me, I sell more records so I really want to thank you people."
** In an inversion, this is largely considered the reason he got [[AwardSnub snubbed]] of the Grammy for Album of the Year in 2000 (the first time a hardcore rap album was nominated for it) losing to '''SteelyDan'''. The Academy would have done anything to avoid the controversy of having to actually give him the award in the midst of the protests.

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* Music/{{Eminem}}'s enormous popularity was fueled by the amount of people protesting him (especially at the Grammies) constantly. He got hate from both sides of the political spectrum; the bible thumping Christians on the right and from gay rights groups like GLAAD and feminist groups on the left for his supposedly homophobic lyrics and for songs like "Kim" and "Stan" being accused of promoting violence against women, respectively. And he knows it; he said at an awards show that "Every time a critic pans me, I sell more records so I really want to thank you people."
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" In an inversion, this is largely considered the reason he got [[AwardSnub snubbed]] of the Grammy for Album of the Year in 2000 (the first time a hardcore rap album was nominated for it) losing to '''SteelyDan'''. The Academy would have done anything to avoid the controversy of having to actually give him the award in the midst of the protests. To Em's credit, he toned down the misogyny and homophobia later in his career, even coming out as supporting gay rights.
25th Nov '16 9:44:37 PM TheBuddy26
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* To make an incredibly long story incredibly short, [[GodwinsLaw many compare]] ''Creator/DonaldTrump'' to ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''. [[http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary He also has the majority vote in the Republican Primary polls]]. Trump on the whole is notorious for exploiting this trope, as even his failures (such as buying up an airline that only got worse until it had to go bankrupt under his hand) add to his media visibility. The value of the "Trump" brand is insanely high in part due to both the good and bad press he has made for himself through his various involvements. It seemed that Trump's luck would eventually come to an end when a videotape of him saying incredibly sexist things on the set of ''Access Hollywood'' was released, setting off an immediate firestorm from both left and right-wingers, but that didn't stop him from winning the 2016 Election, which put a [[FlameBait notorious nod on the public media]] for [[GoneHorriblyRight setting off the fires to get him even more noticeable]].

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* To make an incredibly long story incredibly short, [[GodwinsLaw many compare]] ''Creator/DonaldTrump'' to ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''.'''''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler'''''. [[http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-gop-primary He also has the majority vote in the Republican Primary primary polls]]. Trump on the whole is notorious for exploiting this trope, as even his failures (such as buying up an airline that only got worse until it had to go bankrupt under his hand) add to his media visibility. The value of the "Trump" brand is insanely high in part due to both the good and bad press he has made for himself through his various involvements. [[SubvertedTrope It seemed that Trump's luck would eventually come to an end end]] when a videotape of him saying incredibly sexist things on the set of ''Access Hollywood'' was released, setting off an immediate firestorm from both left and right-wingers, [[DoubleSubversion but that didn't stop him from winning the 2016 Election, election]], which put a [[FlameBait notorious nod on the public media]] for [[GoneHorriblyRight setting off the fires to get him even more noticeable]].
25th Nov '16 9:42:34 PM TheBuddy26
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* This may have been a factor in Creator/DonaldTrump's 2016 presidential campaign and his victory with it; with several allegations, controversies, and other drama tied to his name -- he still won the election by a fair amount.
25th Nov '16 9:42:01 PM TheBuddy26
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* This may have been a factor in Creator/DonaldTrump's 2016 presidential campaign and his victory with it; with several allegations, controversies, and other drama tied to his name -- he still won the election by a fair amount.
23rd Nov '16 4:14:28 PM nombretomado
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* ''Literature/TheDaVinciCode'', as with the book below, had tons of this. People actually protested outside theaters, even though the Vatican themselves never officially commented on it. The movie made out well. Then came ''AngelsAndDemons'', the prequel. The Vatican had learned their lesson, and beyond quietly refusing the film makers any access to their sites, kept a tighter leash on the priests who did complain the first time. It still went on to make well over its production budget, but nowhere near the scale as the first with the controversy.

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* ''Literature/TheDaVinciCode'', as with the book below, had tons of this. People actually protested outside theaters, even though the Vatican themselves never officially commented on it. The movie made out well. Then came ''AngelsAndDemons'', ''Literature/AngelsAndDemons'', the prequel. The Vatican had learned their lesson, and beyond quietly refusing the film makers any access to their sites, kept a tighter leash on the priests who did complain the first time. It still went on to make well over its production budget, but nowhere near the scale as the first with the controversy.
10th Nov '16 8:56:57 PM SalingerFanboy96
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** A big reason for that is, Phil made some more controversial remarks, including one interpreted as endorsing statutory rape. Even the most staunch conservative defenders of the First Amendment have limits.

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** A big reason for that is, Phil made some more controversial remarks, including one interpreted as endorsing statutory rape. (it should be noted that he wasn't.) Even the most staunch conservative defenders of the First Amendment have limits.
9th Nov '16 4:03:19 PM ElectroKraken
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** ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2]]'' has a particularly infamous case with the "No Russian" level. As of the release of ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'', "No Russian" is the only mission in the series that allows the player to wantonly execute innocent civilians for no other reason than perpetrating a terrorist attack. There was a huge media firestorm over the inclusion of the level, with various media outlets and gaming blogs debating the moral and ethical implications not just for the game, but for the gaming industry as a whole. However, that controversy (and the high praise for the first installment in the ''Modern Warfare'' series) propelled ''2'' to the biggest entertainment launch of all time (later succeeded by the third installment). It's notable that in the game itself, the player has the option to skip the scene if they don't like the violent content.

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** ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty Duty: Modern Warfare 2]]'' has a particularly infamous case with the "No Russian" level. As of the release of ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'', "No Russian" is the only mission in the series that allows the player to wantonly execute innocent civilians for no other reason than perpetrating a terrorist attack. There was a huge media firestorm over the inclusion of the level, with various media outlets and gaming blogs debating the moral and ethical implications not just for the game, but for the gaming industry as a whole. However, that controversy (and the high praise for the first installment in the ''Modern Warfare'' series) propelled ''2'' to the biggest entertainment launch of all time (later succeeded by the third installment). It's notable that in the game itself, the player has the option to skip the scene if they don't like the violent content.
9th Nov '16 2:05:14 PM ElectroKraken
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** ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare 2'' has a particularly infamous case with the "No Russian" level. As of the release of ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'', "No Russian" is the only mission in the series that allows the player to wantonly execute innocent civilians for no other reason than perpetrating a terrorist attack. There was a huge media firestorm over the inclusion of the level, with various media outlets and gaming blogs debating the moral and ethical implications not just for the game, but for the gaming industry as a whole. However, that controversy (and the high praise for the first installment in the ''Modern Warfare'' series) propelled ''2'' to the biggest entertainment launch of all time (later succeeded by the third installment). It's notable that in the game itself, the player has the option to skip the scene if they don't like the violent content.

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** ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare 2'' ''[[VideoGame/ModernWarfare Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2]]'' has a particularly infamous case with the "No Russian" level. As of the release of ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'', "No Russian" is the only mission in the series that allows the player to wantonly execute innocent civilians for no other reason than perpetrating a terrorist attack. There was a huge media firestorm over the inclusion of the level, with various media outlets and gaming blogs debating the moral and ethical implications not just for the game, but for the gaming industry as a whole. However, that controversy (and the high praise for the first installment in the ''Modern Warfare'' series) propelled ''2'' to the biggest entertainment launch of all time (later succeeded by the third installment). It's notable that in the game itself, the player has the option to skip the scene if they don't like the violent content.
9th Nov '16 11:57:27 AM kquinn0830
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* In [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball American football]], San Fransisco 49ers Quarterback Colin Kaepernick shocked the country when he remained seated during the NationalAnthem of a pre-season game. He told the media in the locker room after the game that he was doing it to peacefully protest the recent [[PoliceBrutality police killings of unarmed African Americans]], with no punishment happening to the police officers in question. This sparked an outrage by many Americans at first. But after many racist comments against Kaepernick, and more unarmed African Americans being killed, people began to defend his right to protest, including President BarackObama and other political figures. People in football and other sports began joining his [[FollowTheLeader silent protest]], sparking a debate about freedom of expression. His sports jersey which wasn't selling much, became the number 1 selling jersey for weeks. And Kaepernick, who was in danger of getting kicked off the team before he started his protest, was able to earn his starting job back, much to the disappointment of his detractors. Unfortunately, [[http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/poll-main-reason-for-nfl-ratings-drop-due-to-players-kneeling-during-anthem/ the national anthem protests led to many fans not tuning in to NFL games and the ratings went down by 12%]]. Meanwhile, Kaepernick has fueled more controversy with several MalcolmXerox esque actions such as wearing Black Panther Party apparel and has played rather poorly since earning his job back, with an NFL worst 66.2 passer rating among current starters and failing to win a single game thus far.

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* In [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball American football]], San Fransisco 49ers Quarterback Colin Kaepernick shocked the country when he remained seated during the NationalAnthem of a pre-season game. He told the media in the locker room after the game that he was doing it to peacefully protest the recent [[PoliceBrutality police killings of unarmed African Americans]], with no punishment happening to the police officers in question. This sparked an outrage by many Americans at first. But after many racist comments against Kaepernick, and more unarmed African Americans being killed, people began to defend his right to protest, including President BarackObama and other political figures. People in football and other sports began joining his [[FollowTheLeader silent protest]], sparking a debate about freedom of expression. His sports jersey which wasn't selling much, became the number 1 selling jersey for weeks. And Kaepernick, who was in danger of getting kicked off the team before he started his protest, was able to earn his starting job back, much to the disappointment of his detractors. Unfortunately, [[http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/poll-main-reason-for-nfl-ratings-drop-due-to-players-kneeling-during-anthem/ the national anthem protests led to many fans not tuning in to NFL games and the ratings went down by 12%]]. Meanwhile, Kaepernick has fueled more controversy with several MalcolmXerox esque actions such as wearing Black Panther Party apparel and [[http://sports.yahoo.com/news/after-starting-protest-of-status-quo-colin-kaepernick-didnt-vote-150157168.html refusing to exercise his right to vote during the 2016 election]]. He has also played rather poorly since earning his job back, with an NFL worst 66.2 passer rating among current starters and failing to win a single game thus far.
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