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15th Jan '16 4:18:42 PM Trogdor
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* ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'' and ''VideoGame/Left4Dead2'' have "special infected", zombies with different abilities than the normal ones. Most of these zombies, such as the Hunter, Charger, Smoker, and Jockey will immobilize the player if they can perform their primary attack on them. Until the player is saved by their teammates, the special infected can hit them again and again.
24th Aug '15 2:52:00 PM PixelKnight
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** And, of course, the old standby Magic Missile. Automatically hits, bypassing armor and damage reduction, allows no save, hits even incorporeal creatures. The tradeoff is that it doesn't do very much damage. And there are a few spells that can block it.
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** And, of course, the old standby Magic Missile. Automatically hits, bypassing armor and damage reduction, allows no save, hits even incorporeal creatures. The tradeoff is that it doesn't do very much damage. And there are a few spells that can block it. However, if you're up against enemies that are insanely specialized into this spell to the point of being able to bypass the protection spells, [[GameBreaker God help you.]]
1st Aug '15 6:42:33 PM DarkHunter
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* Once your name is written in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going to die. The only reason a Death Note would fail to kill someone is if that person's name had already been written down in ''another'' Death Note: either way, the victim's death is assured. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible[[note]]For example, someone over 124 years old is immune to the Death Note...but no human has ever been verified as having lived longer than 122 years anyway, and that's somewhere around the biological limit of human age.[[/note]] and never come up in the story.
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* Once your name is written in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going to die. The only reason a Death Note would fail to kill someone is if that person's name had already been written down in ''another'' Death Note: either way, no matter what, the victim's death by magical killer notebook is assured. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible[[note]]For example, someone over 124 years old is immune to the Death Note...but no human has ever been verified as having lived longer than 122 years anyway, and that's somewhere around the biological limit of human age.[[/note]] and never come up in the story.
1st Aug '15 6:40:45 PM DarkHunter
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* Once your name is written in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going to die. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible[[note]]For example, someone over 124 years old is immune to the Death Note...but no human has ever been verified as having lived longer than 122 years anyway, and that's somewhere around the biological limit of human age.[[/note]] and never come up in the story. ** One of the exceptions ''does'' come up in the live-action movie adaptation: [[spoiler:a person cannot be killed by a Death Note if their name has already been written in another Death Note with a different time of death...though this can only add a maximum of 23 days to the victim's life]].
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* Once your name is written in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going to die. The only reason a Death Note would fail to kill someone is if that person's name had already been written down in ''another'' Death Note: either way, the victim's death is assured. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible[[note]]For example, someone over 124 years old is immune to the Death Note...but no human has ever been verified as having lived longer than 122 years anyway, and that's somewhere around the biological limit of human age.[[/note]] and never come up in the story. ** One of the exceptions ''does'' come up in the live-action movie adaptation: [[spoiler:a person cannot be killed by a Death Note if their name has already been written in another Death Note with a different time of death...though this can only add a maximum of 23 days to the victim's life]].story.
16th Jul '15 11:20:58 PM foxley
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* This is the reason Aizen's Zanpukutou in Manga/{{Bleach}} is considered overpowered. If you've seen his sword, he's hypnotized you and can control all your senses as he pleases. It's essentially permanent, undetectable, and it's not even the final form of his sword. [[spoiler:Unless one is touching the blade itself before he activates its shikai]].
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* This is the reason Aizen's Zanpukutou in Manga/{{Bleach}} ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' is considered overpowered. If you've seen his sword, he's hypnotized you and can control all your senses as he pleases. It's essentially permanent, undetectable, and it's not even the final form of his sword. [[spoiler:Unless one is touching the blade itself before he activates its shikai]].

* In VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} and LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai, if someone bearing the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception hits you in your point of death, you die. Doesn't matter if you can reincarnate, you are a gestalt entity of 666 different beasts that ordinarily have to all be killed at the same moment, you can locally reverse time to instantly repair any damage done to you, the world itself actively works to sustain your continued existence, or if you aren't even alive to begin with, you die. Period. At best, you can hold on for about thirty seconds if you've lived for a really long time before this. The only way it can fail is if the target's "concept of death" is too alien for the person with the Eyes to comperehend, in which case the result is instead a NoSell. The extraterrestrial [[EldritchAbomination ORT]] is by WordOfGod an example of this.
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* In VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' and LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai, ''LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai'', if someone bearing the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception hits you in your point of death, you die. Doesn't matter if you can reincarnate, you are a gestalt entity of 666 different beasts that ordinarily have to all be killed at the same moment, you can locally reverse time to instantly repair any damage done to you, the world itself actively works to sustain your continued existence, or if you aren't even alive to begin with, you die. Period. At best, you can hold on for about thirty seconds if you've lived for a really long time before this. The only way it can fail is if the target's "concept of death" is too alien for the person with the Eyes to comperehend, in which case the result is instead a NoSell. The extraterrestrial [[EldritchAbomination ORT]] is by WordOfGod an example of this.
13th Jun '15 8:29:46 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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* JojosBizarreAdventure is the king of this trope, and also notable because, just because you find yourself having to fight against a BigBad with this kind of power, or even are affected by it already, doesn't know you cannot find a way around it.
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* JojosBizarreAdventure ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' is the king of this trope, and also notable because, just because you find yourself having to fight against a BigBad with this kind of power, or even are affected by it already, doesn't know you cannot find a way around it.
5th Jun '15 12:40:23 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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* Happens in ''DragonBallGT'' during the Super #17 arc. Regular #17 is being mind controlled by a second version of himself, and attacks #18, his sister. Krillin tries to bring him out, and he nearly goes back to normal before the other #17 enters his mind again and makes him shake off the good influence, at which point he kills Krillin instead.
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* Happens in ''DragonBallGT'' ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' during the Super #17 arc. Regular #17 is being mind controlled by a second version of himself, and attacks #18, his sister. Krillin tries to bring him out, and he nearly goes back to normal before the other #17 enters his mind again and makes him shake off the good influence, at which point he kills Krillin instead.
16th May '15 2:47:53 PM SSJMagus
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** In the second, [[spoiler:Nunnally]] also manages to break out of a geass; [[spoiler:her father's artificially-induced blindness]], but that took ''years''. There's also that it may be that [[spoiler:Charles is dead at this point,]] and that his ability is not blindness, with that particular one being a side-effect of some sort and said character's never being said to recover from the ''actual'' affliction.
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** In the second, [[spoiler:Nunnally]] also manages to break out of a geass; [[spoiler:her father's artificially-induced blindness]], but that took ''years''. There's also that it may be that [[spoiler:Charles is dead at this point,]] and that his ability is not blindness, with that particular one being a side-effect of some sort and said character's never being said to recover from the ''actual'' affliction. [[spoiler:Specifically, she was traumatized by a false memory and one of the side effects is that she never opened her eyes afterward. Finally overcoming the trauma and opening her eyes doesn't mean that the false memory (the actual direct effect of her father's Geass) went away.]]

* The Mangekyo Sharingan's Amaterasu attack in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' works like this. Everything in its range catches fire, and there's no way, unless the caster wills it, for the fire to be put out... ever. If it gets on you, the only way to stop it is to sever that limb. * Once your name is written in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going to die. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible, and never come up in the story.
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* The Mangekyo Sharingan's Amaterasu attack in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' works like this. Everything in its range catches fire, and there's no way, unless the caster wills it, for the fire to be put out... ever. If it gets on you, the only way to stop it is to sever that limb. limb. It's also possible to use a sealing jutsu to remove the flames, but they're still burning inside whatever they get sealed into, and should the seal be released or broken the fire would spread again. * Once your name is written in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going to die. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible, impossible[[note]]For example, someone over 124 years old is immune to the Death Note...but no human has ever been verified as having lived longer than 122 years anyway, and that's somewhere around the biological limit of human age.[[/note]] and never come up in the story.story. ** One of the exceptions ''does'' come up in the live-action movie adaptation: [[spoiler:a person cannot be killed by a Death Note if their name has already been written in another Death Note with a different time of death...though this can only add a maximum of 23 days to the victim's life]].

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* The Mangekyo Sharingan's Amaterasu attack in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' works like this. Everything in its range catches fire, and there's no way, unless the caster wills it, for the fire to be put out... ever. If it gets on you, the only way to stop it is to sever In [[http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/163 this strip]] of ''Webcomic/AntiHEROES'', Aldran defeats a druid who's been constantly dodging his spells by tricking him into ''swallowing a Delayed Blast Fireball spell'' that limb. * Once your name is written was mixed in the ''Manga/DeathNote'', you're going with some berries. -->'''Aldran:''' And sadly, I don't think you get a reflex save in this kind of situation. So I guess what I'm trying to die. While there are a couple of exceptions in the Death Note's rules, the situations they occur in are so unlikely as to be practically impossible, and never come up in the story.say here is... Dodge that one, nature-boy.
6th Apr '15 7:49:21 PM Discar
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* Geasses in general work like this in ''Anime/CodeGeass''. The only thing that even has a chance of countering one is another Geass, but that's more of a case of bypassing some aspect of their Geass, like a telepath not being able to read something that the target doesn't know about, or thinking that something is true because their target believes it is. [[spoiler:A Code Bearer seems to have some ability, but it's not elaborated on, or Jeremiah's [[AntiMagic Geass Canceller]], which also has no saving throw, but that's like how healing spells don't.]] ** There are two exceptions to this: In the first season, [[spoiler:Euphemia]] manages to resist for a moment, which Lelouch later deduces was because the command was just so completely against every facet of her character. In the second, [[spoiler:Nunnally]] also manages to break out of a geass; [[spoiler:her father's artificially-induced blindness]], but that took ''years''. *** There's also that it may be that [[spoiler:Charles is dead at this point,]] and that his ability is not blindness, with that particular one being a side-effect of some sort and said character's never being said to recover from the ''actual'' affliction.
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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'': ** Geasses in general work like this in ''Anime/CodeGeass''.this. The only thing that even has a chance of countering one is another Geass, but that's more of a case of bypassing some aspect of their Geass, like a telepath not being able to read something that the target doesn't know about, or thinking that something is true because their target believes it is. [[spoiler:A Code Bearer seems to have some ability, but it's not elaborated on, or Jeremiah's [[AntiMagic Geass Canceller]], which also has no saving throw, but that's like how healing spells don't.]] ** There are two exceptions to this: In the first season, [[spoiler:Euphemia]] manages to resist for a moment, which Lelouch later deduces was because the command was just so [[IntrinsicVow completely against every facet of her character. character]]. ** In the second, [[spoiler:Nunnally]] also manages to break out of a geass; [[spoiler:her father's artificially-induced blindness]], but that took ''years''. *** ''years''. There's also that it may be that [[spoiler:Charles is dead at this point,]] and that his ability is not blindness, with that particular one being a side-effect of some sort and said character's never being said to recover from the ''actual'' affliction.
17th Mar '15 3:17:56 PM Koveras
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* In ''Film/TheGamers: Dorkness Rising'', there's another literal example. Two PC's encounter a death demon, and his compelling fear aura is so powerful they can't roll high enough to resist so the DM assumed that they were compelled. However, the RulesLawyer says that on a 20 any action is an automatic success, and insists on rolling... a 1. He becomes [[WeakWilled completely compelled]].
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* In ''Film/TheGamers: Dorkness Rising'', ''Film/TheGamersDorknessRising'', there's another literal example. Two PC's encounter a death demon, and his compelling fear aura is so powerful they can't roll high enough to resist so the DM assumed that they were compelled. However, the RulesLawyer says that on a 20 any action is an automatic success, and insists on rolling... a 1. He becomes [[WeakWilled completely compelled]].
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