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9th Jul '16 10:55:43 AM nombretomado
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* The Turaga elders in ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' decide by themselves to share their secrets about the lost city of Metru Nui, reveal the islanders' true origin and their forgotten past lives, and also that the Toa they had been mentoring weren't the first heroes to walk the land by a long shot -- but first wait for the Kolhii championship to be over. However, events that occur directly after the match lead to the actual discovery of Metru Nui, so they have no choice but to tell their tales. This was also a huge relief for Matoro, the only villager who had been aware of it all but was asked to keep silent around his people.

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* The Turaga elders in ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' decide by themselves to share their secrets about the lost city of Metru Nui, reveal the islanders' true origin and their forgotten past lives, and also that the Toa they had been mentoring weren't the first heroes to walk the land by a long shot -- but first wait for the Kolhii championship to be over. However, events that occur directly after the match lead to the actual discovery of Metru Nui, so they have no choice but to tell their tales. This was also a huge relief for Matoro, the only villager who had been aware of it all but was asked to keep silent around his people.
4th Jul '16 12:49:47 AM Morgenthaler
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Sometimes, for whatever reason, a [[TheObiWan mentor]], a QuestGiver, or someone in the know has cause to lie to the heroes. It's not necessarily even for its own sake, in fact it may even be with the best of intentions. However, inevitably it comes to a point where instead of helping, continued deception will cause more harm than good.

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Sometimes, for whatever reason, a [[TheObiWan [[TheMentor mentor]], a QuestGiver, or someone in the know has cause to lie to the heroes. It's not necessarily even for its own sake, in fact it may even be with the best of intentions. However, inevitably it comes to a point where instead of helping, continued deception will cause more harm than good.
17th Jan '16 10:31:27 PM azul120
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* In ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', [[spoiler:Fai knew everything that would happen all along. The rest of the group found out when Ashura showed them Fai's past]]

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* In ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', [[spoiler:Fai knew everything that would happen all along. The rest of the group found out when Ashura showed them Fai's past]]
past.]]
* ''Anime/CrossAnge'': In episode 18, Ange, sick of Jill's deceptive ways, asks her to spill the complete truth about the current Libertus plan. Jill, without hesitation, reveals that she demands to use anyone and everyone as a pawn, and threatens Ange into complying by holding her best friend hostage. This of course is too much for Ange, who gives her an epic verbal chewing out.
6th Jan '16 3:38:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheMoodyBlues song, "No More Lies", is all about this.

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* TheMoodyBlues Music/TheMoodyBlues song, "No More Lies", is all about this.
12th Oct '15 10:32:45 PM Daisy06
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* The Moody Blues song, "No More Lies", is all about this.

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* The Moody Blues TheMoodyBlues song, "No More Lies", is all about this.
12th Oct '15 10:31:12 PM Daisy06
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* The Moody Blues song, "No More Lies", is all about this.
10th Oct '14 8:55:32 AM Morgenthaler
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The NoMoreLies moment is that point, where the plan is no longer furthered by lying. Sometimes, in fact, the plan has already been hindered and the mentor has no choice but to part with the information. Sometimes the mentor is a ManipulativeBastard and only gives the information when he knows the Hero will have no choice but to keep going. Sometimes the hero does have the choice to leave, and that choice is precisely why the ManipulativeBastard version was waiting.

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The NoMoreLies No More Lies moment is that point, where the plan is no longer furthered by lying. Sometimes, in fact, the plan has already been hindered and the mentor has no choice but to part with the information. Sometimes the mentor is a ManipulativeBastard and only gives the information when he knows the Hero will have no choice but to keep going. Sometimes the hero does have the choice to leave, and that choice is precisely why the ManipulativeBastard version was waiting.



* In TsubasaReservoirChronicle, [[spoiler:Fai knew everything that would happen all along. The rest of the group found out when Ashura showed them Fai's past]]

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* In TsubasaReservoirChronicle, ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', [[spoiler:Fai knew everything that would happen all along. The rest of the group found out when Ashura showed them Fai's past]]



* Film/GalaxyQuest: When the ship is boarded, Jason has no choice but to tell the truth about the show and his life as an actor.

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* Film/GalaxyQuest: ''Film/GalaxyQuest'': When the ship is boarded, Jason has no choice but to tell the truth about the show and his life as an actor.
10th Oct '14 8:54:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* Often subverted in {{Seinfeld}}, where even when the point has obviously come to tell the truth, characters (most often George) will continue to lie on principle.


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* Often subverted in ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', where even when the point has obviously come to tell the truth, characters (most often George) will continue to lie on principle.
10th Oct '14 8:53:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* JudgeDredd. Chief Judge Fargo told Dredd that his family was killed when he was a child. Just before his death Fargo tells Dredd the truth: Dredd was created in a lab, and so was Rico.
* ReturnOfTheJedi: When Obi-Wan can no longer gain by hiding the truth from Luke, he tells him that Vader is in fact his father and that Leia is his twin sister.

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* JudgeDredd. ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'': Fiona, at the altar at sunset, chooses Shrek over Farquaad and reveals her nature and her curse.

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* ''Film/JudgeDredd'':
Chief Judge Fargo told Dredd that his family was killed when he was a child. Just before his death Fargo tells Dredd the truth: Dredd was created in a lab, and so was Rico.
* ReturnOfTheJedi: ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'': When Obi-Wan can no longer gain by hiding the truth from Luke, he tells him that Vader is in fact his father and that Leia is his twin sister.



* {{Shrek}}, Fiona, at the altar at sunset, chooses Shrek over Farquaad and reveals her nature and her curse.

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* {{Shrek}}, Fiona, at the altar at sunset, chooses Shrek over Farquaad and reveals her nature and her curse.



* Webcomic/GirlGenius has Baron Wulfenbach say the "no more secrets" version of this to his son Gil. Of course, it's also of the "I'll tell you after the big plot event" so Gil still doesn't know anything. [[spoiler:And now the Baron may be dead.]]

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* Webcomic/GirlGenius ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' has Baron Wulfenbach say the "no more secrets" version of this to his son Gil. Of course, it's also of the "I'll tell you after the big plot event" so Gil still doesn't know anything. [[spoiler:And now the Baron may be dead.]]
1st Apr '14 1:50:51 AM JulianLapostat
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': When Dumbledore tells Harry what little he hadn't pieced together about Voldemort and the Prophecy, he lampshades this pretty well verbatim.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': When Dumbledore tells Harry what little he hadn't pieced together about Voldemort and the Prophecy, he lampshades this pretty well verbatim.
verbatim. Although even then, he did leave one final vital nugget of information that only comes through in the final book.
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