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14th Nov '17 6:36:07 PM ironballs16
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** Another episode reveals that Stabler's mother is bipolar, [[spoiler: and almost killed him during a Manic phase when he was younger]]. This coupled with her refusal to take medication because she ''wants'' the highs and lows has led him to cut off practically all contact with her.

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** Another episode reveals that Stabler's mother is bipolar, [[spoiler: and almost killed him during a Manic phase when he was younger]]. This coupled with her refusal to take medication because she ''wants'' the highs and lows has led him to cut off practically all contact with her.her, only reestablishing it [[spoiler: when his daughter presents similar symptoms]].
14th Nov '17 6:35:20 PM ironballs16
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** Another episode reveals that Stabler's mother is bipolar, [[spoiler: and almost killed him during a Manic phase when he was younger]]. This coupled with her refusal to take medication because she ''wants'' the highs and lows has led him to cut off practically all contact with her.
1st Oct '17 10:06:00 PM ADrago
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In fictionland, this tends to result in, at worst, hangover-like withdrawal and possibly a grudging admission that the medication helped, and at best, the pills having been only a MagicFeather and it was all in their heads. Cue CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and roll the credits. [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs Reality, however, does not work this way]]: going off of psychiatric medications without medical supervision[[note]]Or at least, weaning yourself off rather than going cold turkey like the people in these examples[[/note]] [[DontTryThisAtHome can cause serious harm or even death]]. If the medication is a burden or its side effects are worse than what's being treated, alternatives may exist if one talks to their doctor.

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In fictionland, this tends to result in, at worst, hangover-like withdrawal and possibly a grudging admission that the medication helped, and at best, the pills having been only a MagicFeather and it was all in their heads. Cue CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and roll the credits. [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs [[JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs Reality, however, does not work this way]]: going off of psychiatric medications without medical supervision[[note]]Or at least, weaning yourself off rather than going cold turkey like the people in these examples[[/note]] [[DontTryThisAtHome can cause serious harm or even death]]. If the medication is a burden or its side effects are worse than what's being treated, alternatives may exist if one talks to their doctor.
9th Aug '17 11:30:49 PM PaulA
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* In ''OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest'' it is mentioned that the anti-seizure medication causes your teeth to fall out, which is a good reason why some of the patients don't want to take it. One gets the unfortunate side effect mentioned above, and decides he'd rather have the seizures; the other is terrified of having a seizure, and takes the medication intended for the first epileptic as well as his own to make sure he avoids it. In real life decreased salivation ("cotton mouth") is a side-effect of most psychoactive drugs of various kinds and daily use over a long period of time is likely to wreck your teeth.

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* In ''OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest'' ''Literature/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest'' it is mentioned that the anti-seizure medication causes your teeth to fall out, which is a good reason why some of the patients don't want to take it. One gets the unfortunate side effect mentioned above, and decides he'd rather have the seizures; the other is terrified of having a seizure, and takes the medication intended for the first epileptic as well as his own to make sure he avoids it. In real life decreased salivation ("cotton mouth") is a side-effect of most psychoactive drugs of various kinds and daily use over a long period of time is likely to wreck your teeth.
31st May '17 7:18:05 PM Gamermaster
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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should really be done with medical supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.

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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome#Signs_and_symptoms various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should really be done with medical supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.
31st May '17 7:12:28 PM Gamermaster
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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should really be done with adult supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.

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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should really be done with adult medical supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.
21st Apr '17 2:39:02 PM Golondrina
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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited'', Flash villain The Trickster isn't actually a bad sort, but only taking his medication when he's "feeling down" means he's also open to the delusions that make him go out and commit crimes. At the time Flash confronts him, both over the medication and to find out information, he isn't even aware he's in costume until it's pointed out to him. Said scene was an in-joke of sorts to the dramatic difference between the short-lived live action ''Series/TheFlash1990'' series, which portrayed Trickster as an insane Joker-rip off and the comic version of Trickster, who is more or less a villainous conman, who by the late 1990s had fallen into AntiHero territory as far as aiding the Flash against his former villainous allies. The fact that cartoon Trickster was voiced by MarkHamill, who played the live action version of Trickster (as well as voicing the Joker in the Franchise/{{DCAU}}) added to the wink-wink to the audience.

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* {{Deconstructed}} in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited'', Flash villain The Trickster isn't actually a bad sort, but only taking his medication when he's "feeling down" means he's also open to the delusions that make him go out and commit crimes. At the time Flash confronts him, both over the medication and to find out information, he isn't even aware he's in costume until it's pointed out to him. Said scene was an in-joke of sorts to the dramatic difference between the short-lived live action ''Series/TheFlash1990'' series, which portrayed Trickster as an insane Joker-rip off and the comic version of Trickster, who is more or less a villainous conman, who by the late 1990s had fallen into AntiHero territory as far as aiding the Flash against his former villainous allies. The fact that cartoon Trickster was voiced by MarkHamill, Creator/MarkHamill, who played the live action version of Trickster (as well as voicing the Joker in the Franchise/{{DCAU}}) added to the wink-wink to the audience.
16th Apr '17 10:25:39 PM Gamermaster
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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should normally be done with adult supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.

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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should normally really be done with adult supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.
16th Apr '17 10:21:23 PM Gamermaster
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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects.

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* Justified in ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust''. The only reason Rei was taking "a giant cocktail of sedatives, dissociatives, mood suppressors, and hormonal contraceptives" was because it made it easier for Gendo to control her, and Asuka pretty much begs her to stop taking it when she finds out (Asuka had previously been put on it by her step-mother for similar reasons). Rei ends up going through several months of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome various withdrawal symptoms]], but slowly starts experiencing emotions as she detoxes. She also had the good sense to research the proper speed to ween herself off and obtained a counter agent to reduce the nastier side effects. After finding out, Misato mentioned that these things should normally be done with adult supervision, but Rei pointed out that that wasn't an option since it would be impossible for her to find a doctor that wasn't under NERV control.
13th Apr '17 8:20:13 PM AgentS7
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* Music/TheWall directly mentions this in the form of Pink's {{BSOD Song}} The Wall Part 3. "I don't need no walls around me./I don't need no drugs to calm me!/I have seen the writing on the wall./Don't think I need anything at all!" By this point Pink has finally realized that he must come to face with the problems of his life that lead him to build the eponymous wall having been removed from the hedonistic lifestyle he built up as a rock artist to escape it, making this instance especially poignant. Somewhat {{justified}} in that even those drugs that aren't flat-out illegal are given to him by a quack who cares more about getting him back on stage than about his well-being, although in RealLife rehab overseen by a competent professional would probably have been a smarter option than self-administered cold turkey.

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* Music/TheWall directly mentions this in the form of Pink's {{BSOD Song}} The Wall Part 3. "I don't need no walls around me./I don't need no drugs to calm me!/I have seen the writing on the wall./Don't think I need anything at all!" By this point point, Pink has finally realized that he must come to face with the problems of his life this issues that lead led him to build the eponymous wall having been removed from around his emotions in the hedonistic lifestyle he built up as a rock artist to escape it, making this instance especially poignant. Somewhat {{justified}} first place. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that even those drugs that aren't flat-out illegal are given to him by a quack who cares more about getting him back on stage than about his well-being, although in RealLife rehab overseen by a competent professional would probably have been a smarter option than self-administered cold turkey.this happens right before the last quarter of the album, [[SanitySlippage where Pink completely goes off the rails and dives straight into fascism.]]
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