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25th Aug '16 1:37:09 AM eroock
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When a MacGuffin or PlotDevice is removed entirely from the equation at the end story with neither side possessing it, resulting in the plot equivalent of a no-score draw with the heroes usually getting the Man Of The Match award. Not like it matters, though. [[ShaggyDogStory The story has officially gone nowhere.]]

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When a MacGuffin or PlotDevice is removed entirely from the equation at the end story with neither side possessing it, resulting in the plot equivalent of a no-score draw with the heroes usually getting the Man Of The of the Match award. Not like it matters, though. [[ShaggyDogStory The story has officially gone nowhere.]]
4th Aug '16 7:39:23 PM PaulA
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* Nest in ''[[Literature/TheWordAndTheVoid Angel Fire East]]'' by Terry Brooks convinces the main villain that the unstable MacGuffin had self-destructed. [[spoiler:She is lying.]]

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* Nest in ''[[Literature/TheWordAndTheVoid Angel Fire East]]'' In ''Literature/AngelFireEast'' by Terry Brooks Brooks, Nest convinces the main villain that the unstable MacGuffin had self-destructed. [[spoiler:She is lying.]]
10th Jul '16 5:26:41 PM nombretomado
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* This is a reoccurring theme in the ''ChroniclesOfPrydain'' series. There are many items of power and magic in Prydain; however, mankind tended to kill each other over them until they were lost or useless. Arawn stole many magical labor-saving instruments, tools, and weapons from the people of the land simply to make sure they couldn't have them, with a prequel short story showing that he tricked several people out of them by exploiting their greed, and [[spoiler:those items were all destroyed when his stronghold collapsed in the final book]]. A more low-key case involves two rival lords who constantly bicker over a pure-bred cow. Neither can actually remember who owned her to begin with, but keep going to war to steal her back. King Smoit finally has enough of it all and orders the cow taken for himself. Taran wisely advises him to instead give the cow to a humble farmer, whose lands had been destroyed in the latest fight. There's also an interesting variant with the Red Fallows, a stretch of land that was once incredibly fertile and fruitful. Because of the bloodshed over who owned it, the land was ruined and rendered useless (though it is implied that with some care, it might be made as it once was).

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* This is a reoccurring theme in the ''ChroniclesOfPrydain'' ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' series. There are many items of power and magic in Prydain; however, mankind tended to kill each other over them until they were lost or useless. Arawn stole many magical labor-saving instruments, tools, and weapons from the people of the land simply to make sure they couldn't have them, with a prequel short story showing that he tricked several people out of them by exploiting their greed, and [[spoiler:those items were all destroyed when his stronghold collapsed in the final book]]. A more low-key case involves two rival lords who constantly bicker over a pure-bred cow. Neither can actually remember who owned her to begin with, but keep going to war to steal her back. King Smoit finally has enough of it all and orders the cow taken for himself. Taran wisely advises him to instead give the cow to a humble farmer, whose lands had been destroyed in the latest fight. There's also an interesting variant with the Red Fallows, a stretch of land that was once incredibly fertile and fruitful. Because of the bloodshed over who owned it, the land was ruined and rendered useless (though it is implied that with some care, it might be made as it once was).
9th Jul '16 10:55:36 AM nombretomado
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* Used in the ''Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}'' novel ''Time Trap'', where Toa Vakama threatens to destroy the [[TimeMaster Kanohi Vahi]] to keep [[BigBad Makuta]] from taking it. In this case though, it was more of an example of No MacGuffin, No Universe, because destroying the Vahi would cause a TimeCrash that would essentially doom the entire Matoran universe [[spoiler:and possibly reality outside of Mata Nui's [[HumongousMecha body]]]] to hell. This marks one of the few times Makuta was ''legitimately'' forced to admit defeat, with no backup plans in place to give him an edge.

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* Used in the ''Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}'' ''Toys/{{BIONICLE}}'' novel ''Time Trap'', where Toa Vakama threatens to destroy the [[TimeMaster Kanohi Vahi]] to keep [[BigBad Makuta]] from taking it. In this case though, it was more of an example of No MacGuffin, No Universe, because destroying the Vahi would cause a TimeCrash that would essentially doom the entire Matoran universe [[spoiler:and possibly reality outside of Mata Nui's [[HumongousMecha body]]]] to hell. This marks one of the few times Makuta was ''legitimately'' forced to admit defeat, with no backup plans in place to give him an edge.
26th May '16 11:50:33 AM triscion
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* In ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', the story arc "Indiana Elliot and the Temple of Swedish Furniture" involves Elliot and Noah racing through [[BlandNameProduct Swedekea]] to get the last TV stand, as the store's online product tracker said that there is only one left. While Elliot did technically end up winning the race, [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1071 it didn't matter,]] as the store sold their last one the previous day. This served to allow the characters to bond as {{Worthy Opponent}}s without having the fact that one of them lost the TV stand to the other sour their relationship.

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* In ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', the story arc "Indiana Elliot and the Temple of Swedish Furniture" involves Elliot and Noah racing through [[BlandNameProduct Swedekea]] to get the last TV stand, as the store's online product tracker said that there is only one left. While Elliot did technically end up winning the race, [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1071 it didn't matter,]] as the store sold their last one the previous day. This served to allow the characters to bond as {{Worthy Opponent}}s without having the fact that one of them lost the TV stand to the other sour their relationship. Yes, [[Funny/ElGoonishShive it's as ridiculous as it sounds]], and the store manager threatens to ban them for life if they get caught running through the store again (plus, they have to pay for some pillows they damaged).
19th May '16 1:58:08 PM gophergiggles
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* Attempted by the Player Character in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2''. After getting their hands on a sample of the G-Virus they reflect on all the death and suffering Umbrella has caused and chuck it off the catwalk and into the abyss of the AbandonedLaboratory they're escaping, expecting it to be destroyed by the impending SelfDestructSequence. It fails ''miserably'': Not only does Ada Wong get her hands on the discarded sample, but it turns out [[VillainOfAnotherStory HUNK]] survived the initial firefight with [[WasOnceAMan William Birkin]] and got away with a sample of his own.
4th May '16 1:04:44 PM LaTriezieme
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* ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'' -- Film/JamesBond chooses to chuck the stolen ATAC off a cliff to prevent the Russians from getting their hands on it, [[WeWinBecauseYouDidNot which was enough to accomplish Bond's mission]]. Gogol has just wasted a considerable amount of resources on something he hasn't acquired, as well as losing several operatives. The British still have lost a spy trawler, at least three agents, one Lotus Espirit, and the ATAC, but have denied the Russians the ability to turn their own missiles against them.

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* ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'' -- Film/JamesBond chooses to chuck the stolen ATAC off a cliff to prevent the Russians from getting their hands on it, [[WeWinBecauseYouDidNot which was enough to accomplish Bond's mission]]. Gogol has just wasted a considerable amount of resources on something he hasn't acquired, as well as losing several operatives. The British still have lost a spy trawler, at least three agents, one Lotus Espirit, and the ATAC, but have denied the Russians the ability to turn their own missiles against them. Notably, Gogol apparently finds the whole thing rather amusing as well.
19th Apr '16 1:34:55 AM erforce
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-->--'''Film/JamesBond''', ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly''

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-->--'''Film/JamesBond''', -->-- '''Film/JamesBond''', ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly''



* In the IndianaJones comic "Thunder in the Orient", the Indy and his allies in the Chinese resistance are racing the Japanese to find a set of scrolls said to contain the original account of the Buddha's teachings, written by the Buddha himself. Once they find the scrolls, however, [[spoiler: they crumble as soon as they are exposed to air, before anyone can read what they say.]] Of course, as the examples in the Film section show, this is about par for the franchise.

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* In the IndianaJones comic "Thunder ''Franchise/IndianaJones: Thunder in the Orient", the Orient'', Indy and his allies in the Chinese resistance are racing the Japanese to find a set of scrolls said to contain the original account of the Buddha's teachings, written by the Buddha himself. Once they find the scrolls, however, [[spoiler: they crumble as soon as they are exposed to air, before anyone can read what they say.]] Of course, as the examples in the Film section show, this is about par for the franchise.
1st Apr '16 8:27:44 PM Prometheus117
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* Used in the ''Franchise/BIONICLE'' novel ''Time Trap'', where Toa Vakama threatens to destroy the [[TimeMaster Kanohi Vahi]] to keep [[BigBad Makuta]] from taking it. In this case though, it was more of an example of No MacGuffin, No Universe, because destroying the Vahi would cause a TimeCrash that would essentially doom the entire Matoran universe [[spoiler:and possibly reality outside of Mata Nui's [[HumongousMecha body]]]] to hell. This marks one of the few times Makuta was ''legitimately'' forced to admit defeat, with no backup plans in place to give him an edge.

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* Used in the ''Franchise/BIONICLE'' ''Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}'' novel ''Time Trap'', where Toa Vakama threatens to destroy the [[TimeMaster Kanohi Vahi]] to keep [[BigBad Makuta]] from taking it. In this case though, it was more of an example of No MacGuffin, No Universe, because destroying the Vahi would cause a TimeCrash that would essentially doom the entire Matoran universe [[spoiler:and possibly reality outside of Mata Nui's [[HumongousMecha body]]]] to hell. This marks one of the few times Makuta was ''legitimately'' forced to admit defeat, with no backup plans in place to give him an edge.
1st Apr '16 8:27:09 PM Prometheus117
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* Used in the ''Franchise/BIONICLE'' novel ''Time Trap'', where Toa Vakama threatens to destroy the [[TimeMaster Kanohi Vahi]] to keep [[BigBad Makuta]] from taking it. In this case though, it was more of an example of No MacGuffin, No Universe, because destroying the Vahi would cause a TimeCrash that would essentially doom the entire Matoran universe [[spoiler:and possibly reality outside of Mata Nui's [[HumongousMecha body]]]] to hell. This marks one of the few times Makuta was ''legitimately'' forced to admit defeat, with no backup plans in place to give him an edge.
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