History Main / NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel

11th Apr '16 6:30:17 AM ChronoLegion
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** Possibly a reference to his quip in the [[Film/MenInBlack2 second film]] about replacing a black inflatable driver for a white one due to being constantly pulled over.



* ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine2'' when the guys are going to go back to the 1770s to "Make America Happen:" Jacob tells Nick (who is black) "you're not going to be to super welcome there, but we chould totally go!"

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* ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine2'' when the guys are going to go back to the 1770s to "Make America Happen:" Jacob tells Nick (who is black) "you're not going to be to super welcome there, but we chould should totally go!"go!"
* In ''Film/LateForDinner'', two guys unknowingly end up becoming subjects to a cryogenics experiment. They then get accidentally thawed out 29 years later. Not sure what happened, they go to a hospital to patch up a bullet wound in one of them. One of the guys comments to a black doctor of how great it is that black people are being allowed to be doctors. The doctor is a little taken aback at this, although seeing a card from a cryogenics lab is a little more disturbing to him.
11th Apr '16 6:22:29 AM ChronoLegion
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* Played straight with women in Scott Meyer's ''[[Literature/{{Magic20}} Off to Be the Wizard]]''. It's fairly easy for men who discover the file and travel back in time to pretend to be wizards/sorcerers/fakirs/shamans/etc. in the past. However, any woman who tries to do the same usually runs straight into the BurnTheWitch attitude of most of history. Thus, most women end up traveling to the 4th century BC to the city of {{Atlantis}}, a LadyLand built in the Mediterranean as a safe haven for sorceresses. Averted with wizards named Tyler (black) and Eddie (Asian). They choose to live in 12th century England. When asked, Tyler replies that he claims to be a Moor. The locals then assume that he has either converted to Christianity or is powerful enough not to care. Eddie pretends to be a sorcerer from the Far East named Wing Po, despite his heavy {{Joisey}} accent. Either way, being a powerful wizard means that the locals won't dare touch them or complain about their [[BuffySpeak non-whiteness]].

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* Played straight with women in Scott Meyer's ''[[Literature/{{Magic20}} Off to Be the Wizard]]''. It's fairly easy for men who discover the file and travel back in time to pretend to be wizards/sorcerers/fakirs/shamans/etc. in the past. However, any woman who tries to do the same usually runs straight into the BurnTheWitch attitude of most of history. Thus, most women end up traveling to the 4th century BC to the city of {{Atlantis}}, a LadyLand built in the Mediterranean as a safe haven for sorceresses. Averted with wizards named Tyler (black) and Eddie (Asian). They choose to live in 12th century England. When asked, Tyler replies that he claims to be a Moor. The locals then assume that he has either converted to Christianity or is powerful enough not to care. Eddie pretends to be a sorcerer from the Far East named Wing Po, despite his heavy {{Joisey}} accent. Either way, being a powerful wizard means that the locals won't dare touch them or complain about their [[BuffySpeak non-whiteness]]. Most male time travelers tend to go to a place and time that fits with their ethnicity and cultural heritage. The second novel also reveals that not every native Mediterranean is okay with women being in charge.
11th Apr '16 6:17:47 AM ChronoLegion
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* Played completely straight in JonBirmingham's ''AxisOfTime'' trilogy, where a Multinational Taskforce from the 21st century is transported by a NegativeSpaceWedgie to 1942. A good number of crewmembers from the "uptimer" ships are either black or Asian. In fact, the "temps" are incredulous to find out that the "uptimers" put a black woman in command of a warship. One of the main characters is a black Marine, who jibes as a "temp" named Dan Black about racism. Dan shuts him down by pointing out that in his father's household, anyone who used the N-word would be sorry. The liberal views of the 21st century clash hard with the "normal" views of 1940s America. To this end, Admiral Kolhammer gets FDR to declare an area in California as a Special Administrative Zone, where the laws and customs of the 21st century are the norm. JEdgarHoover is determined to shut down the Zone, claiming that it's amoral. In response, Kolhammer tries to expose Hoover as a closet gay.

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* Played completely straight in JonBirmingham's ''AxisOfTime'' trilogy, where a Multinational Taskforce from the 21st century is transported by a NegativeSpaceWedgie to 1942. A good number of crewmembers from the "uptimer" ships are either black or Asian. In fact, the "temps" are incredulous to find out that the "uptimers" put a black woman in command of a warship. One of the main characters is a black Marine, who jibes as a "temp" named Dan Black about racism. Dan shuts him down by pointing out that in his father's household, anyone who used the N-word would be sorry. The liberal views of the 21st century clash hard with the "normal" views of 1940s America. To this end, Admiral Kolhammer gets FDR to declare an area in California as a Special Administrative Zone, where the laws and customs of the 21st century are the norm.norm (and people can be sued for violating those laws, even if the act happens outside the Zone). JEdgarHoover is determined to shut down the Zone, claiming that it's amoral. In response, Kolhammer tries to expose Hoover as a closet gay.
11th Apr '16 6:10:43 AM ChronoLegion
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''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' has ''Night of the Hawk'' when the team travels to 1958. Jax and Kendra get uncomfortable reactions to their interracial dating/fake marriage, and when Jax gets pulled over by a cop....

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* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' has ''Night of the Hawk'' when the team travels to 1958. Jax and Kendra get uncomfortable reactions to their interracial dating/fake marriage, and when Jax gets pulled over by a cop....cop... Then there's Sara's budding romance with a cute female nurse. Stein initially expresses his belief in how great and simple a time it was, only to be brutally shut down by Jax and Sara, who point out that this is only true if you're a straight white male. Stein is forced to agree.
22nd Mar '16 7:42:49 PM jenfullmoon
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''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' has ''Night of the Hawk'' when the team travels to 1958. Jax and Kendra get uncomfortable reactions to their interracial dating/fake marriage, and when Jax gets pulled over by a cop....
28th Feb '16 8:25:34 AM 10-13-2
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How realistic (at least, to the extent that [[CaptainObvious a story about time travel can be rooted in realism]]) this trope is varies. There is no use pretending that racism did not exist, but the levels and expressions thereof have varied wildly throughout history -- it is not cleanly divided between the dangerous Past and the accepting Present.

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How realistic (at least, to the extent that [[CaptainObvious a story about time travel can be rooted in realism]]) this trope is varies. There is no use pretending that racism did not exist, but the levels and expressions thereof have varied wildly throughout history -- it is not cleanly divided between the dangerous Past and the accepting Present.
Present. It's also paranoid (in most cases) to assume that a "modern" person's very ''[[FeelingOppressedByTheirExistence existence]]'' will trigger violence or repression. Most civilized societies will tolerate just about anyone as long as they don't "cause any trouble" - although, granted, "trouble" will be defined very broadly if a society really is that reactionary.
23rd Jan '16 6:39:48 PM nombretomado
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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{XMen}}'', a few alternate-universe versions of the X-Men travel back to the 50s to save the younger Professor Xavier from a time-traveling assassin. They all talk at a cafe, and the owner gets pissy about the fact that {{Storm}} and {{Wolverine}} (an African and a Caucasian, respectively) are a couple. Naturally, this makes Wolverine completely flip out.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{XMen}}'', ''WesternAnimation/XMen'', a few alternate-universe versions of the X-Men travel back to the 50s to save the younger Professor Xavier from a time-traveling assassin. They all talk at a cafe, and the owner gets pissy about the fact that {{Storm}} ComicBook/{{Storm}} and {{Wolverine}} (an African and a Caucasian, respectively) are a couple. Naturally, this makes Wolverine completely flip out.
22nd Dec '15 4:53:27 PM MAI742
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Imagine being a black man and traveling to a place and time when all blacks were second-class citizens (e.g. 1950) or slaves (e.g. 1860) and had to carry papers to prove otherwise, or where they were likely to be lynched for using the wrong public toilet or being in the wrong neighbourhood. Similar issues exist for other peoples too -- a non-Chinese of ''any'' sort found in China during the Boxer Rebellion would be beaten to death in short order. Likewise traveling to [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi Germany]] (or any Nazi-occupied area, for that matter) and loudly proclaiming Socialist sympathies or your Jewish ancestry is an ''excellent'' way to commit suicide. [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Possibly by dying of typhus you caught from being malnourished and overworked when producing German Army trousers for Hugo Boss]]. If they go to these dangerous time periods anyway, expect repercussions. Women in many eras and places will have similar issues, although to a lesser degree -- the culture shock of a less modern and/or liberal society may be a plot point.

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Imagine being a black man and traveling to a place and time when all blacks were second-class citizens (e.g. 1950) or slaves (e.g. 1860) and had to carry papers to prove otherwise, or where they were likely to be lynched for using the wrong public toilet or being in the wrong neighbourhood. Similar issues exist for other peoples too -- a non-Chinese of ''any'' sort found in China during the Boxer Rebellion would be beaten to death in short order. Likewise traveling to [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi Germany]] (or any Nazi-occupied area, for that matter) and loudly proclaiming Socialist sympathies or your Jewish ancestry is an ''excellent'' way to commit suicide. suicide [[note]] [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Possibly Probably by dying of typhus you caught from being malnourished and overworked when producing German Army trousers for Hugo Boss]].Boss]] [[/note]]. If they go to these dangerous time periods anyway, expect repercussions. Women in many eras and places will have similar issues, although to a lesser degree -- the culture shock of a less modern and/or liberal society may be a plot point.
22nd Dec '15 4:52:23 PM MAI742
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Imagine being a black man and traveling to a place and time when all blacks were second-class citizens (e.g. 1950) or slaves (e.g. 1860) and had to carry papers to prove otherwise, or where they were likely to be lynched for using the wrong public toilet or being in the wrong neighbourhood. Similar issues exist for other peoples too -- a non-Chinese of ''any'' sort found in China during the Boxer Rebellion would be beaten to death in short order. Likewise traveling to [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi Germany]] (or any Nazi-occupied area, for that matter) and loudly proclaiming Communist ideals or your Jewish ancestry is an ''excellent'' way to commit suicide. [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Possibly by being worked to death producing German Army trousers for Hugo Boss]]. If they go to these dangerous time periods anyway, expect repercussions. Women in many eras and places will have similar issues, although to a lesser degree -- the culture shock of a less modern and/or liberal society may be a plot point.

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Imagine being a black man and traveling to a place and time when all blacks were second-class citizens (e.g. 1950) or slaves (e.g. 1860) and had to carry papers to prove otherwise, or where they were likely to be lynched for using the wrong public toilet or being in the wrong neighbourhood. Similar issues exist for other peoples too -- a non-Chinese of ''any'' sort found in China during the Boxer Rebellion would be beaten to death in short order. Likewise traveling to [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi Germany]] (or any Nazi-occupied area, for that matter) and loudly proclaiming Communist ideals Socialist sympathies or your Jewish ancestry is an ''excellent'' way to commit suicide. [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Possibly by dying of typhus you caught from being worked to death malnourished and overworked when producing German Army trousers for Hugo Boss]]. If they go to these dangerous time periods anyway, expect repercussions. Women in many eras and places will have similar issues, although to a lesser degree -- the culture shock of a less modern and/or liberal society may be a plot point.
21st Dec '15 4:53:57 PM JulietF2
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Modern European society is legally and officially an egalitarian environment for all ethnicities; most fiction writers suggest that the sci-fi future will be even more so. But if time travel ever becomes an institution in the future, some parts of the past may not be safe for all people to travel to. In particular, the use of Africans as slaves on plantations in The Americas and Arabia in the period c.1600-1870 and the establishment of European protectorates (puppet-governments) over the entire continent of Africa from the 1870s 'til the 1980s lead to Africans being thought of as intrinsically inferior to non-African peoples - [[UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra the last regime to espouse the inferiority of African peoples was only toppled in 1990]]. It's safe to say that this period of history casts a long shadow over present-day Africa and the African diaspora in The Americas in particular.

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Modern European society is legally and officially an egalitarian environment for all ethnicities; most fiction writers suggest that the sci-fi future will be even more so. But if time travel ever becomes an institution in the future, some parts of the past may not be safe for all people to travel to. In particular, the use of Africans as slaves on plantations in The Americas and Arabia in the period c.1600-1870 and the establishment of European protectorates (puppet-governments) over the entire continent of Africa from the 1870s 'til the 1980s lead led to Africans being thought of as intrinsically inferior to non-African peoples - [[UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra the last regime to espouse the inferiority of African peoples was only toppled in 1990]]. It's safe to say that this period of history casts a long shadow over present-day Africa and the African diaspora in The Americas in particular.
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