History Main / NoEqualOpportunityTimeTravel

28th Nov '17 12:30:22 PM Potman
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** Those elements of the fanbase who complain that casting a non-white Doctor would derail the show because of this trope may want to remember the seven years during which we had a Doctor played by [[Creator/TomBaker an ethnically Jewish actor]], who could freely visit Renaissance Italy and the 1910s with it being a complete non-issue.
22nd Nov '17 7:16:34 PM nombretomado
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* An third season episode of ''Series/SeaQuestDSV'', the titular sub ends up in the 60s during the CubanMissileCrisis. [[NumberTwo Commander Jonathan Ford]] (a black man) takes a team to the surface. They "borrow" a car and take it to their destination on the shore. On the way, they pass by car full of young men. They arrive to the beach only to see the other car pull up behind them and the guys getting out with baseball bats. Ford suddenly notices a "No blacks allowed" sign and remembers his history. Plus, he was in the same car as a white woman, which only pissed off the '60s guys more. Luckily, all of the team members are military-trained, so a bunch of punks with baseball bats is not a threat.

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* An third season episode of ''Series/SeaQuestDSV'', the titular sub ends up in the 60s during the CubanMissileCrisis.UsefulNotes/CubanMissileCrisis. [[NumberTwo Commander Jonathan Ford]] (a black man) takes a team to the surface. They "borrow" a car and take it to their destination on the shore. On the way, they pass by car full of young men. They arrive to the beach only to see the other car pull up behind them and the guys getting out with baseball bats. Ford suddenly notices a "No blacks allowed" sign and remembers his history. Plus, he was in the same car as a white woman, which only pissed off the '60s guys more. Luckily, all of the team members are military-trained, so a bunch of punks with baseball bats is not a threat.
21st Nov '17 11:34:54 PM PaulA
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* ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'': In ''Human Nature'', the Doctor's companion Bernice Summerfield is supposed to be keeping a low profile during an extended sojourn in the 1910s. She ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.

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* ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'': In ''Human Nature'', ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoNewAdventuresHumanNature Human Nature]]'', the Doctor's companion Bernice Summerfield is supposed to be keeping a low profile during an extended sojourn in the 1910s. She ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.
8th Nov '17 4:59:31 AM jormis29
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* ''Literature/TunnelsOfTreachery'' plays with this -- the two previous books both involved white kids going back in time using the Moose Jaw tunnels, and when their Chinese-Canadian friends do so, they get a very different reception.

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* ''Literature/TunnelsOfTreachery'' ''[[Literature/MooseJawTunnelsSeries Tunnels of Treachery]]'' plays with this -- the two previous books both involved white kids going back in time using the Moose Jaw tunnels, and when their Chinese-Canadian friends do so, they get a very different reception.
29th Oct '17 8:24:55 PM PaulA
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** When [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E9EmpressOfMars encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars]], their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time (but, interestingly, doesn't seem to notice her skin color).
** Averted when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E10TheEatersOfLight visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times]], as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (in the Ancient Roman concept of sexuality, the gender of the other person wasn't a significant factor, and people often had relationships with both sexes; one of the soldiers is gay, and the rest just think he's missing out on half the fun he could be having), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black).

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** *** When [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E9EmpressOfMars encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars]], their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time (but, interestingly, doesn't seem to notice her skin color).
** *** Averted when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E10TheEatersOfLight visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times]], as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (in the Ancient Roman concept of sexuality, the gender of the other person wasn't a significant factor, and people often had relationships with both sexes; one of the soldiers is gay, and the rest just think he's missing out on half the fun he could be having), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black).
29th Oct '17 8:24:29 PM PaulA
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce "Thin Ice"]], [[TomboyishName Bill]], upon finding she's in 1814, is worried about how she'll be treated on account of being black. The Doctor sadly acknowledges that slavery is still a reality in this time period, but Bill is surprised by the fact that the non-white population of London in the Regency is higher than she was expecting, and most of the characters don't bat an eye at her. The one character who ''does'' is Lord Sutcliffe, who promptly gets decked by the Doctor for it. Later, when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E9EmpressOfMars encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars]], their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time. Averted when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E10TheEatersOfLight visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times]], as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (one of them freely admits to being gay), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black). In fact, sticking to one sexual preference is treated by them as "old-fashioned", and bisexuality is considered normal.

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** [[TomboyishName Bill]], being a lesbian and of African descent, has a few things to worry about when they visit the past.
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In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce "Thin Ice"]], [[TomboyishName Bill]], upon finding she's in 1814, she is worried about how she'll be treated on account of being black. The Doctor sadly acknowledges that slavery is still a reality in this time period, but Bill is surprised by the fact that the non-white population of London in the Regency is higher than she was expecting, and most of the characters don't bat an eye at her. The one character who ''does'' is Lord Sutcliffe, who is a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain, and promptly gets decked by the Doctor for it. Later, when it.
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[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E9EmpressOfMars encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars]], their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time. time (but, interestingly, doesn't seem to notice her skin color).
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Averted when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E10TheEatersOfLight visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times]], as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (one (in the Ancient Roman concept of them freely admits to being gay), sexuality, the gender of the other person wasn't a significant factor, and people often had relationships with both sexes; one of the soldiers is gay, and the rest just think he's missing out on half the fun he could be having), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black). In fact, sticking to one sexual preference is treated by them as "old-fashioned", and bisexuality is considered normal.black).
29th Oct '17 7:59:26 PM PaulA
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* ''AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho'': Inverted with companion Oliver Harper, who is worried about time travel due to being [[{{Gayngst}} a gay man from the 1960s]], when homosexuality was illegal. Steven Taylor, from hundreds of years in the future, hadn't even thought about this and finds the idea of people discriminating against someone for their sexual orientation faintly surreal.
* ''Radio/ThirdDoctorRadioDramas'': ''The The Ghosts of N-Space'' has the Doctor dress his companion Sarah Jane in boys' clothing during a visit to medieval times, causing her to be repeatedly [[MistakenForGay mistaken for "his catamite"]].
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* ''Literature/DoctorWhoMissingAdventures'': In ''The Plotters'', the Doctor attempts to avoid trouble by dressing his female companion Vicki as a boy (as he had previously done in the TV story "The Crusade"), only to find this has the opposite of the intended effect when she attracts the attention of a lecherous old gay king who sets about trying to woo her.
* ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'': In ''Human Nature'', the Doctor's companion Bernice Summerfield is supposed to be keeping a low profile during an extended sojourn in the 1910s. She ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.
* Some of the ''Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures'' novels have this become a bit of an issue for Anji Kapoor. In the 18th and 19th centuries, she's treated as exotic and mystical but not outright abused. Wearing a sari helps; too bad she hates wearing saris. Fitz Kreiner, who's white and British, gets almost as much trouble for stuff like his lower-class London accent.



*** In the First Doctor [[Literature/DoctorWhoMissingAdventures Missing Adventures novel]] ''The Plotters'', the Doctor dresses his female companion as a boy again, only to end up finding this has exactly the opposite intended effect when she attracts the attention of a lecherous old gay king who sets about trying to woo her.
*** The [[Radio/ThirdDoctorRadioDramas Third Doctor audio]] "The Ghosts of N-Space" has the Third Doctor dress Sarah Jane in boys' clothing, causing her to be repeatedly [[MistakenForGay mistaken for "his catamite"]].
** Inverted with the First Doctor AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho companion Oliver Harper, who is worried about time travel due to being [[{{Gayngst}} a gay man from the 1960s]], when homosexuality was illegal. Steven Taylor, from hundreds of years in the future, hadn't even thought about this and finds the idea of people discriminating against someone for their sexual orientation faintly surreal.



** Some of the ''Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures'' novels have this become a bit of an issue for Anji Kapoor. In the 18th and 19th centuries, she's treated as exotic and mystical but not outright abused. Wearing a sari helps; too bad she hates wearing saris. Fitz Kreiner, who's white and British, gets almost as much trouble for stuff like his lower-class London accent.



*** The later [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E8HumanNature "Human Nature"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]] (set in 1913), had Martha's race subtly addressed as nobody believed a woman, let alone a ''poor minority'' woman, was capable of being a doctor. Martha got a SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome proving her extensive medical knowledge to one such doubter. The original [[Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures New Adventures novel]] that the episode was based on starred companion Franchise/BerniceSummerfield, who ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.

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*** The later [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E8HumanNature "Human Nature"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]] (set in 1913), had Martha's race subtly addressed as nobody believed a woman, let alone a ''poor minority'' woman, was capable of being a doctor. Martha got a SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome proving her extensive medical knowledge to one such doubter. The original [[Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures New Adventures novel]] that the episode was based on starred companion Franchise/BerniceSummerfield, who ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.



** In the spinoff ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith", this gets played with when Rani goes back to the 1950s looking for Sarah Jane -- Rani assumes she's getting looks because of racism, but later realises people are staring at her because of her outfit, and the only reason she's getting away with it is because she isn't white.

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** * In the spinoff ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith", this gets played with when Rani goes back to the 1950s looking for Sarah Jane -- Rani assumes she's getting looks because of racism, but later realises people are staring at her because of her outfit, and the only reason she's getting away with it is because she isn't white.



** In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'', Jack Harkness and Toshiko Sato are stuck in 1940s Cardiff, and Tosh expresses some very real concerns about being Japanese and in WWII. Fortunately the attack on Pearl Harbor (and the British Asian colonies) is still several months in the future.

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** * In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'', Jack Harkness and Toshiko Sato are stuck in 1940s Cardiff, and Tosh expresses some very real concerns about being Japanese and in WWII. Fortunately the attack on Pearl Harbor (and the British Asian colonies) is still several months in the future.
29th Oct '17 7:05:54 AM narm00
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*** In the First Doctor book ''The Plotters'', the Doctor dresses his female companion as a boy again, only to end up finding this has exactly the opposite intended effect when she attracts the attention of a lecherous old gay king who sets about trying to woo her.
*** The Third Doctor audio "The Prisoners of Death" has the Third Doctor dress Sarah Jane in boys' clothing, causing her to be repeatedly [[MistakenForGay mistaken for "his catamite"]].

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*** In the First Doctor book [[Literature/DoctorWhoMissingAdventures Missing Adventures novel]] ''The Plotters'', the Doctor dresses his female companion as a boy again, only to end up finding this has exactly the opposite intended effect when she attracts the attention of a lecherous old gay king who sets about trying to woo her.
*** The [[Radio/ThirdDoctorRadioDramas Third Doctor audio audio]] "The Prisoners Ghosts of Death" N-Space" has the Third Doctor dress Sarah Jane in boys' clothing, causing her to be repeatedly [[MistakenForGay mistaken for "his catamite"]].



** Those elements of the fanbase who complain that casting a non-white Doctor would derail the show because of this trope may want to remember the seven years during which we had a Doctor played by an ethnically Jewish actor, who could freely visit Renaissance Italy and the 1910s with it being a complete non-issue.

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** Those elements of the fanbase who complain that casting a non-white Doctor would derail the show because of this trope may want to remember the seven years during which we had a Doctor played by [[Creator/TomBaker an ethnically Jewish actor, actor]], who could freely visit Renaissance Italy and the 1910s with it being a complete non-issue.



** Martha Jones (who is black) tends to get away with this for the most part, though her trips are rarely to the distant past and when it is, the issue will be addressed.

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** Martha Jones (who is black) tends to get away with this for the most part, though her trips are rarely to the distant past and when it is, they are, the issue will be addressed.



*** The later [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E8HumanNature "Human Nature"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]] (set in 1913), had Martha's race subtly addressed as nobody believed a woman, let alone a ''poor minority'' woman, was capable of being a doctor. Martha got a SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome proving her extensive medical knowledge to one such doubter. The original novel that the episode was based on starred companion Franchise/BerniceSummerfield, who ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.

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*** The later [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E8HumanNature "Human Nature"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]] (set in 1913), had Martha's race subtly addressed as nobody believed a woman, let alone a ''poor minority'' woman, was capable of being a doctor. Martha got a SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome proving her extensive medical knowledge to one such doubter. The original novel [[Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures New Adventures novel]] that the episode was based on starred companion Franchise/BerniceSummerfield, who ditches her skirts about twenty minutes into the adventure in favour of her regular trousers. This gets her into a ''lot'' of trouble.



** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce "Thin Ice"]], [[TomboyishName Bill]], upon finding she's in 1814, is worried about how she'll be treated on account of being black. The Doctor sadly acknowledges that slavery is still a reality in this time period, but Bill is surprised by the fact that the non-white population of London in the Regency is higher than she was expecting, and most of the characters don't bat an eye at her. The one character who ''does'' is Lord Sutcliffe, who promptly gets decked by the Doctor for it. Later, when encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars, their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time. Averted when visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times, as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (one of them freely admits to being gay), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black). In fact, sticking to one sexual preference is treated by them as "old-fashioned", and bisexuality is considered normal.
** In the spinoff ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith", when Rani goes back to the 1950s looking for Sarah Jane. Although this is played with -- Rani assumes racism, but later realises people are staring at her because of her outfit, and the only reason she's getting away with it is because she isn't white.

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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce "Thin Ice"]], [[TomboyishName Bill]], upon finding she's in 1814, is worried about how she'll be treated on account of being black. The Doctor sadly acknowledges that slavery is still a reality in this time period, but Bill is surprised by the fact that the non-white population of London in the Regency is higher than she was expecting, and most of the characters don't bat an eye at her. The one character who ''does'' is Lord Sutcliffe, who promptly gets decked by the Doctor for it. Later, when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E9EmpressOfMars encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars, Mars]], their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time. Averted when [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E10TheEatersOfLight visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times, times]], as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (one of them freely admits to being gay), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black). In fact, sticking to one sexual preference is treated by them as "old-fashioned", and bisexuality is considered normal.
** In the spinoff ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith", this gets played with when Rani goes back to the 1950s looking for Sarah Jane. Although this is played with Jane -- Rani assumes she's getting looks because of racism, but later realises people are staring at her because of her outfit, and the only reason she's getting away with it is because she isn't white.



* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' has ''Night of the Hawk'' when the team travels to 1958. Jax and Kendra get uncomfortable reactions to their interracial dating/fake marriage, and when Jax gets pulled over by a cop... Then there's Sara's budding romance with a cute female nurse. Stein initially expresses his belief in how great and simple a time it was, only to be brutally shut down by Jax and Sara, who point out that this is only true if you're a straight white male. Stein is forced to agree. In Season 2, the Legends end up in the middle of the AmericanCivilWar, and Jax and Amaya end up witnessing the plight of the slaves. Their non-submissive attitudes immediately lands them in hot water with the white plantation owner.

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* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' has ''Night of the Hawk'' when the team travels to 1958. Jax and Kendra get uncomfortable reactions to their interracial dating/fake marriage, and when Jax gets pulled over by a cop... Then there's Sara's budding romance with a cute female nurse. Stein initially expresses his belief in how great and simple a time it was, only to be brutally shut down by Jax and Sara, who point out that this is only true if you're a straight white male. Stein is forced to agree. In Season 2, the Legends end up in the middle of the AmericanCivilWar, and Jax and Amaya end up witnessing the plight of the slaves. Their non-submissive attitudes immediately lands land them in hot water with the white plantation owner.
5th Oct '17 7:44:07 PM wuggles
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** Also happens within the U.S. with African-Americans, who usually can't trace ancestry before the 1860s, since detailed records of black people before then are hard to find.
16th Jul '17 2:59:22 PM ChronoLegion
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce "Thin Ice"]], [[TomboyishName Bill]], upon finding she's in 1814, is worried about how she'll be treated on account of being black. The Doctor sadly acknowledges that slavery is still a reality in this time period, but Bill is surprised by the fact that the non-white population of London in the Regency is higher than she was expecting, and most of the characters don't bat an eye at her. The one character who ''does'' is Lord Sutcliffe, who promptly gets decked by the Doctor for it.

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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce "Thin Ice"]], [[TomboyishName Bill]], upon finding she's in 1814, is worried about how she'll be treated on account of being black. The Doctor sadly acknowledges that slavery is still a reality in this time period, but Bill is surprised by the fact that the non-white population of London in the Regency is higher than she was expecting, and most of the characters don't bat an eye at her. The one character who ''does'' is Lord Sutcliffe, who promptly gets decked by the Doctor for it. Later, when encountering Victorian soldiers on Mars, their commander laughs at the idea of Bill being a policewoman, since women couldn't be cops at that time. Averted when visiting Scotland during Ancient Roman times, as Bill's admittance to being lesbian is taken in stride by the Roman soldiers (one of them freely admits to being gay), and no one bats an eye at her skin color (the gay soldier is also black). In fact, sticking to one sexual preference is treated by them as "old-fashioned", and bisexuality is considered normal.
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