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28th Jan '17 6:03:19 PM KenMoreau
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** Stark was pumping an amazing amount of power into the chamber via the Vita-Rays: we are told explicitly that the machine consumes a very large percentage of the power supply for the area. Are we seeing energy to matter conversion? The [[ScifiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale math doesn't work out]], but at least it's a start...
7th Dec '16 10:11:12 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* In ''Series/AgentsofSHIELD'' several scientists preform an experiment that creates matter by using a mystical book. Another scientist, with no knowledge of the book, starts going over the numbers and points out they somehow got out more energy (and matter) than they put in.

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* In ''Series/AgentsofSHIELD'' ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' several scientists preform an experiment that creates matter by using a mystical book. Another scientist, with no knowledge of the book, starts going over the numbers and points out they somehow got out more energy (and matter) than they put in.
7th Dec '16 11:18:42 AM Pinokio
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* In ''Comicbook/IronMan'', the arc reactor in Tony Stark's suit is generating a surplus of energy. In earlier stories, the energy powering the suit is being amplified by transistors. Transistors are not that impressive, as far as electrical components go, unless Stark designed ''super'' transistors.
23rd Nov '16 4:13:04 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/DanBrown's ''AngelsAndDemons'' is based around the female protagonist/her dead father pumping vast quantities of energy into the LHC to form {{antimatter}}, which they can then annihilate with normal matter to provide 'clean, sustainable energy for all' (instead of the bomb it inevitably becomes). It somehow never occurs to either of these highly trained scientists that they would have to put more in energy to create the antimatter than they could ever get out (though note that even in-universe, characters seem awed by the quantities they made; it might be safe to assume they found a way past or around this problem).

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* Creator/DanBrown's ''AngelsAndDemons'' ''Literature/AngelsAndDemons'' is based around the female protagonist/her dead father pumping vast quantities of energy into the LHC to form {{antimatter}}, which they can then annihilate with normal matter to provide 'clean, sustainable energy for all' (instead of the bomb it inevitably becomes). It somehow never occurs to either of these highly trained scientists that they would have to put more in energy to create the antimatter than they could ever get out (though note that even in-universe, characters seem awed by the quantities they made; it might be safe to assume they found a way past or around this problem).
22nd Nov '16 5:48:03 PM PaulA
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* In ''[[Literature/TheDragonKnight The Dragon and the George]]'', the trope is either slightly inverted or subverted. Speaking on the subject of the power available to mages, the wizard Carolinus irritatedly says (paraphrased), "Just because a number's infinite doesn't mean you can use it to get something for nothing." (This may be true in this universe, as he's apparently referring to Cantor's hierarchy of infinities, and spells may require infinite expenditures.) As with the ''Literature/YoungWizards'' series above, later books note in the background the development of ways to tap new sources of power, some of which probably provide infinite energy, but which still avert the trope.

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* In ''[[Literature/TheDragonKnight The Dragon and the George]]'', ''Literature/TheDragonAndTheGeorge'', the trope is either slightly inverted or subverted. Speaking on the subject of the power available to mages, the wizard Carolinus irritatedly says (paraphrased), "Just because a number's infinite doesn't mean you can use it to get something for nothing." (This may be true in this universe, as he's apparently referring to Cantor's hierarchy of infinities, and spells may require infinite expenditures.) As with the ''Literature/YoungWizards'' series above, later books note in the background the development of ways to tap new sources of power, some of which probably provide infinite energy, but which still avert the trope.
3rd Nov '16 9:34:59 AM madammina
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* In ''Series/AgentsofSHIELD'' several scientists preform an experiment that creates matter by using a mystical book. Another scientist, with no knowledge of the book, starts going over the numbers and points out they somehow got out more energy (and matter) than they put in.
7th Jul '16 4:01:37 PM FordPrefect
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* While violations of conservation of energy do not occur in classic physic, it is worth noting that there are ways around various other laws regarding energy usage, and getting as close to 100% energy efficiency as physically possible is a long-standing engineering goal:

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* While violations of conservation of energy do not occur in classic physic, physics, it is worth noting that there are ways around various other laws regarding energy usage, and getting as close to 100% energy efficiency as physically possible is a long-standing engineering goal:
7th Jul '16 4:00:59 PM FordPrefect
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** Averted by ZPMs in ''SG-1'' and ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', as they draw energy from subspace, and so don't need to follow the conservation of energy law. And yet, this is the one form of AppliedPhlebotinum on the show for which running out of energy (after performing some truly amazing feat) ''is'' often portrayed as an issue.

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** Averted by ZPMs [=ZPMs=] in ''SG-1'' and ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', as they draw energy from subspace, and so don't need to follow the conservation of energy law. And yet, this is the one form of AppliedPhlebotinum on the show for which running out of energy (after performing some truly amazing feat) ''is'' often portrayed as an issue.
7th Jul '16 6:44:05 AM hullflyer
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* ''Literature/{{Carrie}}'' at least mentions energy. When Carrie is exercising her telekinetic abilities, it is stated that her body is burning a ''lot'' of energy, which seems to be going nowhere.
28th Jun '16 4:18:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* The titular character of ''TheChroniclesOfProfessorJackBaling'' wonders about this one, both as it applies to the perpetual motion machine created by his student and his own disintegrator ray. Using the latter in quick succession does end up blowing a fuse, but the amount of energy involved in powering the thing in the first place is staggering. He shouldn’t be able to get that much juice at once in the first place.

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* The titular character of ''TheChroniclesOfProfessorJackBaling'' ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfProfessorJackBaling'' wonders about this one, both as it applies to the perpetual motion machine created by his student and his own disintegrator ray. Using the latter in quick succession does end up blowing a fuse, but the amount of energy involved in powering the thing in the first place is staggering. He shouldn’t be able to get that much juice at once in the first place.
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