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21st Mar '17 6:41:58 PM CloudyHead
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* In the last issue of ''ComicBook/AstonishingAntMan'', [[PapaWolf Scott Lang]] was on trial for robbing a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Corrupt Corporate Executive]] to rescue his daughter, Cassie (who now goes by Stinger). As things look bad for Scott; [[CanonImmigrant Yellowjacket]], Egghead, and Crossfire showed up [[RevengeBeforeReason for revenge]]. A major fight happened in the courtroom with Cassie joining in with her Stinger costume and helped defeat the three villains. The battle showed Scott's ex-wife how much of a hero and good father Scott really is. So thanks to Yellowjacket, Scott was not only on better terms with his ex-wife and daughter, but Cassie can fight crime again with her faughter as Ant-Man and Stinger.
15th Mar '17 8:04:13 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/WordsOfRadiance'' (second book of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''): [[spoiler:When Adolin ends up in a four on one duel, he tries to surrender within the first couple minutes, but Sadeas bribed the highjudge to ignore any such attempts so that he can be "punished." This gives Kaladin time to jump down and help Adolin fight, turning a CurbStompBattle into a narrow victory. If they had just let him surrender, the Kholin family would have lost all their Shards, and Dalinar's plan would have completely failed]].
9th Mar '17 7:34:32 AM BeerBaron
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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'''s ''Tribunal'' expansion, [[PhysicalGod Almalexia]] tasks you with reforging [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement True Flame]], the FlamingSword of the original Nerevar, to use against a deranged Sotha Sil. [[spoiler: However, it turns out that ''[[FaceHeelTurn she]]'' is the villain, having [[DeadAllTheLong already killed]] Sotha Sil, and basically handed the [[PlayerCharacter Nerevarine]] one of the [[InfinityMinusOneSword best swords]] in the game to use against ''her'']].

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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'''s ''Tribunal'' expansion, [[PhysicalGod Almalexia]] tasks you with reforging [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement True Flame]], the FlamingSword of the original Nerevar, to use against a deranged Sotha Sil. [[spoiler: However, it turns out that ''[[FaceHeelTurn she]]'' is the villain, having [[DeadAllTheLong [[DeadAllAlong already killed]] Sotha Sil, and basically handed the [[PlayerCharacter Nerevarine]] one of the [[InfinityMinusOneSword best swords]] in the game to use against ''her'']].
9th Mar '17 7:33:34 AM BeerBaron
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* In the ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' expansion ''Dragonborn'', the main quest starts with cultists attacking the player. One of the cultists has a note with orders from [[BigBad Miraak]], the first Dragonborn. If he had never tried to get cultists to kill the player, the player would not have known about him, and he would have been able to leave Apocrypha and take over Solstheim.
** Not to mention, the entire game might not have happened if not for Alduin. The Dovahkiin would have died a nameless nobody in Helgen if Alduin hadn't interrupted their execution by trying to kill them.
** An instance of this occurs a few games earlier in the ''Tribunal'' expansion for ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''. Almalexia tasks the Nerevarine with reforging the original Nerevar's blade [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement True]] [[InfinityMinusOneSword Flame]], presumably to use against a deranged Sotha Sil. However, SHE is the villain, and basically gave one you one the best swords in the game. Guess which weapon most players use to defeat HER? Go on, guess!
** Similar to the ''Dragonborn'' example, the entire plot of ''Tribunal'' is kicked off by assassins attempting to murder the PlayerCharacter under orders from a villain the player wouldn't have known about otherwise. Admittedly it is quite possible you end up talked into working ''for'' said villain, [[spoiler: and no, he doesn't betray you nor demands that you ''have'' to do overtly evil things, the co-operation ends up working out for both you and him.]]

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
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In the ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' expansion ''Dragonborn'', the main quest starts ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'''s ''Tribunal'' expansion, [[PhysicalGod Almalexia]] tasks you with cultists attacking reforging [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement True Flame]], the player. One FlamingSword of the cultists has original Nerevar, to use against a note with orders from [[BigBad Miraak]], deranged Sotha Sil. [[spoiler: However, it turns out that ''[[FaceHeelTurn she]]'' is the first Dragonborn. If he had never tried to get cultists to kill villain, having [[DeadAllTheLong already killed]] Sotha Sil, and basically handed the player, [[PlayerCharacter Nerevarine]] one of the player would not have known about him, and he would have been able to leave Apocrypha and take over Solstheim.
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[[InfinityMinusOneSword best swords]] in the game to use against ''her'']].
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'':
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entire game might not have happened if not for Alduin.[[BigBad Alduin]] pulling this trope. The Dovahkiin would have died a nameless nobody in Helgen if Alduin hadn't interrupted their execution by trying to kill them.
** An instance of this occurs a few games earlier in the ''Tribunal'' expansion for ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''. Almalexia tasks the Nerevarine with reforging the original Nerevar's blade [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement True]] [[InfinityMinusOneSword Flame]], presumably to use against a deranged Sotha Sil. However, SHE is the villain, and basically gave one you one the best swords in the game. Guess which weapon most players use to defeat HER? Go on, guess!
** Similar to the
*** In ''Dragonborn'' example, expansion, the entire plot of ''Tribunal'' is kicked off by assassins attempting to murder main quest starts with cultists attacking the PlayerCharacter under player. One of the cultists has a note with orders from a villain [[BigBad Miraak]], the first Dragonborn. If he had never tried to get cultists to kill the player, the player wouldn't would not have known about otherwise. Admittedly it is quite possible you end up talked into working ''for'' said villain, [[spoiler: him, and no, he doesn't betray you nor demands that you ''have'' would have been able to do overtly evil things, the co-operation ends up working out for both you leave Apocrypha and him.]]take over Solstheim.
2nd Mar '17 5:54:16 PM CloudyHead
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**A minor one was when Baby 5 was believing that Sai was proposing to her, her ally Lao G was telling his opponents that she was only a [[ExtremeDoormat "convenient"]] underling. Along with Sai promising to marry her, Baby 5 defected from the Don Quixote Family and joined the Happo Navy that becomes part of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet.
24th Feb '17 9:24:09 PM LadyNorbert
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* The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive F-Con]] trio in ''[[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Tron 2.0]]'' make some really foolish mistakes. Yes, they kidnap Alan and successfully intimidate him into forking over the information needed to make the digitizer run...but then they lock the man who ''programed Tron and Ma3a'' [[LockingMacGyverInTheStoreCupboard in a room full of old computer parts]], giving him the ability to at least make contact with his son and upload Mercury to help. Then, they decide to dispose of him by shooting him into {{cyberspace}}, reuniting him with his son and Ma3a and giving him access to crash the datawraith server from the inside.

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* The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive F-Con]] trio in ''[[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Tron 2.0]]'' make some really foolish mistakes. Yes, they kidnap Alan and successfully intimidate him into forking over the information needed to make the digitizer run...but then they lock the man who ''programed ''programmed Tron and Ma3a'' [=Ma3a=]'' [[LockingMacGyverInTheStoreCupboard in a room full of old computer parts]], giving him the ability to at least make contact with his son and upload Mercury to help. Then, they decide to dispose of him by shooting him into {{cyberspace}}, reuniting him with his son and Ma3a [=Ma3a=] and giving him access to crash the datawraith server from the inside.



* At one point in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' you have until daybreak to get to Outset Island and acquire one of the [[MacGuffin MacGuffins]] before the pirates do. However it's ''not'' a TimedMission because [[BigBad Ganondorf's]] curse makes the night last forever, giving you all the time in the world to get there. Thanks, big guy!

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* At one point in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' you have until daybreak to get to Outset Island and acquire one of the [[MacGuffin MacGuffins]] before the pirates do. However However, it's ''not'' a TimedMission because [[BigBad Ganondorf's]] curse makes the night last forever, giving you all the time in the world to get there. Thanks, big guy!



* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s Trespasser DLC reveals that ''[[BigBad Corypheus]]'' of all people is guilty of this. By failing to die when he unlocked the orb, (and subsequently claiming it for himself) he prevented it from reaching [[spoiler:Solas]], who would have promptly used it's power to tear down the Veil and remake the world, causing untold amounts of death and destruction. Which means that by detonating the orb and creating the Breach, Corypheus actually prevented an even more cataclysmic event from taking place.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s Trespasser DLC reveals that ''[[BigBad Corypheus]]'' of all people is guilty of this. By failing to die when he unlocked the orb, orb (and subsequently claiming it for himself) himself), he prevented it from reaching [[spoiler:Solas]], who would have promptly used it's its power to tear down the Veil and remake the world, causing untold amounts of death and destruction. Which means that by By detonating the orb and creating the Breach, Corypheus actually prevented an even more cataclysmic event from taking place.
21st Feb '17 11:58:43 AM Jubileus57
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* A ''monumental'' example hails from VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening, where [[spoiler:GodOfEvil and resident BigBad Grima single-handedly creates a loophole that allows it to be permanently killed. Following Lucina and her comrades in the past, it creates a timeline where TWO versions of Grima exist. How is that a problem? The only person capable of killing Grima... is ''Grima itself''. And the present Grima (also known as ''the player's Avatar'') is a good guy more than ready to pull a HeroicSacrifice to destroy his alternate self forever. Oopsie daisy.]]

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* A ''monumental'' example hails from VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening, ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', where [[spoiler:GodOfEvil and resident BigBad Grima single-handedly creates a loophole that allows it to be permanently killed. Following Lucina and her comrades in the past, it creates a timeline where TWO versions of Grima exist. How is that a problem? The only person capable of killing Grima... is ''Grima itself''. And the present Grima (also known as ''the player's Avatar'') is a good guy more than ready to pull a HeroicSacrifice to destroy his alternate self forever. Oopsie daisy.]]
21st Feb '17 11:57:27 AM Jubileus57
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* A ''monumental'' example hails from VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening, where [[spoiler:GodOfEvil and resident BigBad Grima single-handedly creates a loophole that allows it to be permanently killed. Following Lucina and her comrades in the past, it creates a timeline where TWO versions of Grima exist. How is that a problem? The only person capable of killing Grima... is ''Grima itself''. And the present Grima (also known as ''the player's Avatar'' is a good guy more than ready to pull a HeroicSacrifice to destroy his alternate self forever. Oopsie daisy.]]

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* At one point in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' you have until daybreak to get to Outset Island and acquire one of the [[MacGuffin MacGuffins]] before the pirates do. However it's ''not'' a TimedMission because [[BigBad Ganondorf's]] curse makes the night last forever, giving you all the time in the world to get there. Thanks, big guy!
* A ''monumental'' example hails from VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening, where [[spoiler:GodOfEvil and resident BigBad Grima single-handedly creates a loophole that allows it to be permanently killed. Following Lucina and her comrades in the past, it creates a timeline where TWO versions of Grima exist. How is that a problem? The only person capable of killing Grima... is ''Grima itself''. And the present Grima (also known as ''the player's Avatar'' Avatar'') is a good guy more than ready to pull a HeroicSacrifice to destroy his alternate self forever. Oopsie daisy.]]



* At one point in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' you have until daybreak to get to Outset Island and acquire one of the [[MacGuffin MacGuffins]] before the pirates do. However it's ''not'' a TimedMission because [[BigBad Ganondorf's]] curse makes the night last forever, giving you all the time in the world to get there. Thanks, big guy!
21st Feb '17 11:54:16 AM Jubileus57
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* A ''monumental'' example hails from VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening, where [[spoiler:GodOfEvil and resident BigBad Grima single-handedly creates a loophole that allows it to be permanently killed. Following Lucina and her comrades in the past, it creates a timeline where TWO versions of Grima exist. How is that a problem? The only person capable of killing Grima... is ''Grima itself''. And the present Grima (also known as ''the player's Avatar'' is a good guy more than ready to pull a HeroicSacrifice to destroy his alternate self forever. Oopsie daisy.]]
17th Feb '17 10:06:40 PM rva98014
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* In ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', [[BitchInSheepsClothing Assistant Mayor Bellwether]] vouches for [[RighteousRabbit Judy]] when she was about to be fired by [[DaChief Chief Bogo]]. She just didn't expect that Judy would discover she was behind the HatePlague affecting Zootopian predators the same way she expected her to find about the missing mammals.

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* In ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', [[BitchInSheepsClothing Assistant Mayor Bellwether]] vouches for intervenes on [[RighteousRabbit Judy]] Judy's]] behalf when she was about to be fired by [[DaChief Chief Bogo]]. She just didn't expect that Judy would discover she was behind the HatePlague affecting conspiracy causing Zootopian predators to go savage with the same way she expected her to find about determination Judy showed in finding the missing mammals.
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