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24th Sep '16 4:48:55 PM nombretomado
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* The TabletopRPG, especially ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' was such an entirely new concept of entertainment in the 1970s and 1980s that the MoralGuardians, who of course refused to understand it, found it easy to conflate it as some kind of sinister menace. There was a huge [[YouCanPanicNow moral panic]] suggesting that [=RPGs=] were turning kids into devil-worshippers. When you remember that the major content inspiration, Creator/JRRTolkien, was a respected British linguistics professor and a close friend of ardent Christian scholar/Fantasy novelist, CSLewis, the sheer ignorance of the [[HollywoodSatanism Satanic Panic]] around the game is even more idiotic. Not that this has stopped [[ComicBook/ChickTracts some Christian fundamentalists]] from making this argument even today.

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* The TabletopRPG, especially ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' was such an entirely new concept of entertainment in the 1970s and 1980s that the MoralGuardians, who of course refused to understand it, found it easy to conflate it as some kind of sinister menace. There was a huge [[YouCanPanicNow moral panic]] suggesting that [=RPGs=] were turning kids into devil-worshippers. When you remember that the major content inspiration, Creator/JRRTolkien, was a respected British linguistics professor and a close friend of ardent Christian scholar/Fantasy novelist, CSLewis, Creator/CSLewis, the sheer ignorance of the [[HollywoodSatanism Satanic Panic]] around the game is even more idiotic. Not that this has stopped [[ComicBook/ChickTracts some Christian fundamentalists]] from making this argument even today.
24th Sep '16 12:39:11 AM ShadictheHedgehog
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** * A series of quotes in [[https://xkcd.com/1227/ this]] {{WebComic/XKCD}} comic highlights this by a series of quotations that wouldn't be entirely out of place when talking about modern-day texting, but are all about people writing letters to each other.
21st Sep '16 10:50:45 AM N.Harmonik
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** [[IncrediblyLamePun It contains forks]].[[note]]Those not familiar with chess terminology, moving a piece so it threatens two of the opponent's pieces in such a way they are forced to save only one and likely sacrifice the other is called "forking".[[/NOTE]]

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** [[IncrediblyLamePun It contains forks]].[[note]]Those not familiar with chess terminology, moving a piece so it threatens two of the opponent's pieces in such a way they are forced to save only one and likely sacrifice the other is called "forking".[[/NOTE]][[/note]]
21st Sep '16 10:47:34 AM N.Harmonik
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* Early Christians also tried to resist the introduction of punctuation and ''spaces between words'' into the Bible, because they thought that not having to parse words and sentences in your head made reading [[ItsEasySoItSucks too easy]]. [[note]]FORTHOSEUNAWAREANCIENTGREEKWASWRITTENLIKETHISHAVINGNOSPACESORPUNCTUATIONUSINGTHEWORDKAIMEANINGANDTOINDICATEBREAKSINTHOUGHTWHICHYOUWILLFINDINOLDERENGLISHTRANSLATIONSANDTHISANDTHATANDTHISETC[[/NOTE]]

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* Early Christians also tried to resist the introduction of punctuation and ''spaces between words'' into the Bible, because they thought that not having to parse words and sentences in your head made reading [[ItsEasySoItSucks too easy]]. [[note]]FORTHOSEUNAWAREANCIENTGREEKWASWRITTENLIKETHISHAVINGNOSPACESORPUNCTUATIONUSINGTHEWORDKAIMEANINGANDTOINDICATEBREAKSINTHOUGHTWHICHYOUWILLFINDINOLDERENGLISHTRANSLATIONSANDTHISANDTHATANDTHISETC[[/NOTE]][[note]]FORTHOSEUNAWAREANCIENTGREEKWASWRITTENLIKETHISHAVINGNOSPACESORPUNCTUATIONUSINGTHEWORDKAIMEANINGANDTOINDICATEBREAKSINTHOUGHTWHICHYOUWILLFINDINOLDERENGLISHTRANSLATIONSANDTHISANDTHATANDTHISETC[[/note]]



** The promotion was also seen as controversial, because it allowed every pawn to be promoted into a queen. At the time people were very christian. Since the queen was the king's wife it would mean that a king could have more than one wife and the idea of even someone being able to have more than one wife was considered to be a perverted thought.[[note]]In its persian root the queen is a minister. Thus, the pawn gets a promotion. Similarly, bishops originally were war elephants, but that's another story.[[/note]]

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** The promotion was also seen as controversial, because it allowed every pawn to be promoted into a queen. At the time people were very christian. Since the queen was the king's wife it would mean that a king could have more than one wife and the idea of even someone being able to have more than one wife was considered to be a perverted thought.[[note]]In its persian Persian root the queen is a minister. Thus, the pawn gets a promotion. Similarly, bishops originally were war elephants, but that's another story.[[/note]]
20th Sep '16 7:07:49 AM Shadic9000
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* In VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV, the Archangels consider any book that tells a story this. [[spoiler:This is not really new media. The angels cast a portion of humanity they considered "worthy" out of modern day Tokyo and made them think they were living in a medieval type of society.]]

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* In VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV, the Archangels angels consider any book that tells a story this. [[spoiler:This is not really new media. The angels cast a portion of humanity they considered "worthy" out of modern day Tokyo and made them think they were living in a medieval type of society.]]
20th Sep '16 7:06:37 AM Shadic9000
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* In VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV, the Archangels consider manga this.

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* In VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV, the Archangels consider manga this.any book that tells a story this. [[spoiler:This is not really new media. The angels cast a portion of humanity they considered "worthy" out of modern day Tokyo and made them think they were living in a medieval type of society.]]
15th Sep '16 7:08:45 PM lavendermintrose
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* A more balanced, less obvious example: the antagonist of the second season of ''Anime/{{K}}'' is a [[SuperEmpowering King]] who builds an app that allows users to get powers from him without actually meeting him (as the other Kings require, since they recruit their Clansmen personally) or even being aware of Kings and the Slates from which they get their powers. As such, he has a much larger base of fighters, who operate mostly anonymously. Jungle "missions" (taken on for points that can be collected to gain greater powers) include basically trolling the other Clans, as well as planting small things like fake fruit and plushies in public locations - that have bombs inside. Or distracting all of the employees in a mall so that a robbery can be committed. Or helping a higher-ranking member get past security into a school so that they can try to kill someone inside. So, the dark side of internet society. However, the core members aren't shown as bad people, and it's not the technology that made them do bad things - one of the main characters is an expert hacker who [[spoiler: infiltrates Jungle and is instrumental in stopping them from destroying the world]].

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* A more balanced, less obvious example: the antagonist of the second season of ''Anime/{{K}}'' is a [[SuperEmpowering King]] who builds an app that allows users to get powers from him without actually meeting him (as the other Kings require, since they recruit their Clansmen personally) or even being aware of Kings and the Slates from which they get their powers. As such, he has a much larger base of fighters, who operate mostly anonymously. Jungle "missions" (taken on for points that can be collected to gain greater powers) include basically trolling the other Clans, as well as planting small things like fake fruit and plushies in public locations - that have bombs inside. Or distracting all of the employees in a mall so that a robbery can be committed. Or helping a higher-ranking member get past security into a school so that they can try to kill someone inside. So, So really, he's weaponized the [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory the dark side of internet society.society]]. However, the core members aren't shown as bad people, and it's not the technology that made them do bad things - one of the main characters is an expert hacker who [[spoiler: infiltrates Jungle and is instrumental in stopping them from destroying the world]].
29th Aug '16 6:24:06 PM lavendermintrose
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** Though notably it also explores the positive side; Lain remains connected to her loved ones because the Wired continues to exist, in the end. The evils of the Wired are largely related to the issue of how an expert information manipulator can use misinformation and people's desires to elevate himself into a subject of religious worship.

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** Though notably it also explores the positive side; Lain remains connected to her loved ones because the Wired continues to exist, in the end. The evils of the Wired are largely related to the issue of how an expert information manipulator can use misinformation and people's desires to elevate himself into a subject an object of religious worship.


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* A more balanced, less obvious example: the antagonist of the second season of ''Anime/{{K}}'' is a [[SuperEmpowering King]] who builds an app that allows users to get powers from him without actually meeting him (as the other Kings require, since they recruit their Clansmen personally) or even being aware of Kings and the Slates from which they get their powers. As such, he has a much larger base of fighters, who operate mostly anonymously. Jungle "missions" (taken on for points that can be collected to gain greater powers) include basically trolling the other Clans, as well as planting small things like fake fruit and plushies in public locations - that have bombs inside. Or distracting all of the employees in a mall so that a robbery can be committed. Or helping a higher-ranking member get past security into a school so that they can try to kill someone inside. So, the dark side of internet society. However, the core members aren't shown as bad people, and it's not the technology that made them do bad things - one of the main characters is an expert hacker who [[spoiler: infiltrates Jungle and is instrumental in stopping them from destroying the world]].
28th Aug '16 9:59:29 AM Eagal
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* Frugal billionaire Warren Buffet does not own a computer and doesn't invest in Google or Facebook despite said products making millions of dollars a day. He doesn't necessarily consider them evil but instead thinks "New Media Are Unsure Investments".
** An examination of Facebook's stock price since its IPO suggests that Mr Buffet made a reasonable choice.
** It's more a case of "I Don't Understand New Media"; one of Buffet's iron-clad rules is he doesn't invest in things he doesn't understand, which is probably one reason he's one of the world's most successful investors.
28th Aug '16 9:57:54 AM Eagal
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*** Of course, the heavy use of Twitter by Iranian protesters has shown that there's some weight behind those fears. Yes, those are good guys trying to rebel against a very bad government. But Twitter would be just as useful for a nasty group trying to overthrow a good government -- anonymous, asynchronous, instant communication is basically the Holy Grail of insurgencies.
*** That analysis is not borne out by facts. Any form of internet communication is susceptible to hacking and tracing. Al-Quaeda and the Taliban's actual communication system is positively Medieval -- using couriers to orally deliver orders, and, if cell phones have to be used, buying one new, ''driving hundreds of miles in a straight line'', using it once, and then destroying or discarding the phone and SIM card post use, frequently driving hundreds of miles in another direction for good measure.
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