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21st Sep '17 6:14:47 AM kyojikasshu
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* The death of Judge Carl Robertson in ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'' subverted this. Despite humiliating Phil in an election, he agrees to do his eulogy. Phil and Will tries to do this trope, but just about everyone at his funeral has bones to pick with him and all express how they're glad he's dead. Will eventually chastises everyone for speaking ill of the dead. One of them asks who he is and Will responds that he's the one who killed him (Robertson died from a heart attack immediately after Will told him to "drop dead"). Everybody ''claps''. Will eventually gives up, saying "tough crowd".

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* The death of Judge Carl Robertson in ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'' subverted this. Despite humiliating Phil in an election, he agrees to do his eulogy.eulogy, as Robertson had mentored Phil when he was starting out (which is a big reason why his savage campaign hurt Phil so much). Phil and Will tries to do this trope, but just about everyone at his funeral has bones to pick with him and all express how they're glad he's dead. Will eventually chastises everyone for speaking ill of the dead. One of them asks who he is and Will responds that he's the one who killed him (Robertson died from a heart attack immediately after Will told him to "drop dead"). Everybody ''claps''. Will eventually gives up, saying "tough crowd".
20th Sep '17 11:50:56 PM PaulA
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* Music/TomLehrer in "National Brotherhood Week"
-->''It's fun to eulogize\\
The people you despise\\
As long as you don't let 'em in your school.''
12th Sep '17 6:26:50 PM ZerroDefex
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* Played with in ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'' when an undead character with no memory of their past life meets a character who knew them and actually witnessed their death. He is surprisingly thrilled when the later admits that he was a jerk in his past life.
-->"Do you know how hard it is to find an honest obituary? You'd think that I spent my weekends rescuing orphans from the sound of them."
9th Aug '17 12:42:48 AM TheSinful
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* Downplayed in ''[[http://ficwad.com/story/213011 Eroninja]]'' where, after learning the full truth of what happened the night of his birth, Anime/{{Naruto}} agrees that Minato was a great hokage who sacrificed everything, including his family, for the sake of the village. But that same act marked him as a horrendous husband and father.
23rd Jul '17 8:51:31 PM Jeduthun
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Contrast with SpeakIllOfTheDead for the serious version and TheFunInFuneral for less serious ones.

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Contrast with SpeakIllOfTheDead for the serious version and TheFunInFuneral for less serious ones.
ones. Compare TooSoon, the idea that recent tragic events are off-limits for comedy.
4th Jul '17 5:37:28 PM nombretomado
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Genealogists are especially picky about this on both sides of the issue with some wanting to record everything about a person down to [[OldShame various brushes with the law]] that are recorded in old papers "Bob was cited for [=DUI=] in 1959, 1963, and 1964" versus paragraphs glorifying the person so much that there's little of actual historical value about the person "He was a great guy, and everyone loved him!" Even TheOtherWiki has to point out that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog.2C_Web_hosting_service.2C_social_networking_service.2C_or_memorial_site it is not a memorial site.]]

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Genealogists are especially picky about this on both sides of the issue with some wanting to record everything about a person down to [[OldShame various brushes with the law]] that are recorded in old papers "Bob was cited for [=DUI=] in 1959, 1963, and 1964" versus paragraphs glorifying the person so much that there's little of actual historical value about the person "He was a great guy, and everyone loved him!" Even TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki has to point out that [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_blog.2C_Web_hosting_service.2C_social_networking_service.2C_or_memorial_site it is not a memorial site.]]
24th Jun '17 9:49:13 PM Andrew
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* There's a famous Latin phrase, "De mortuis nil nisi bonum," that, loosely translated, means "Speak no ill of the dead."
11th Jun '17 3:12:16 PM nombretomado
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* Parodied in ''[[YesMinister Yes, Prime Minister]]''; Prime Minister Hacker's predecessor in that office is writing his memoirs, which will be very embarrassing for Hacker, when he suddenly drops dead from a heart attack. When Hacker learns the news, and just before he remembers that he's supposed to act with dignified shock and grief, for a moment he has the biggest, happiest grin we've ever seen on his face. He manages to wipe it off sufficiently to deliver a suitably grave 'initial reaction', but later cheerfully comments that most of the dignitaries who will show up to his state funeral are only going to show up to make sure he's dead.

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* Parodied in ''[[YesMinister ''[[Series/YesMinister Yes, Prime Minister]]''; Prime Minister Hacker's predecessor in that office is writing his memoirs, which will be very embarrassing for Hacker, when he suddenly drops dead from a heart attack. When Hacker learns the news, and just before he remembers that he's supposed to act with dignified shock and grief, for a moment he has the biggest, happiest grin we've ever seen on his face. He manages to wipe it off sufficiently to deliver a suitably grave 'initial reaction', but later cheerfully comments that most of the dignitaries who will show up to his state funeral are only going to show up to make sure he's dead.
30th May '17 11:38:39 AM Tractical_Chunder
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* There's a short period in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' where the party thinks Seifer is dead. Everyone says nice things about him, except Squall, who has a mild freak out triggered by the dissonance between the nearly-unanimous dislike the characters had for Seifer while he was alive and the nice things they say about him after his death.

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* There's a short period in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' where the party thinks JerkAss Seifer is dead. Everyone starts to says nice things about him, except for Squall, who has a mild freak out triggered by the dissonance between the nearly-unanimous dislike the characters had for Seifer while he was alive and the nice things they say about him after his death.
20th May '17 2:08:23 PM nombretomado
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* ''ValkyrieProfile'': "They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead...so I say, 'Nice try!'"

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* ''ValkyrieProfile'': ''VideoGame/ValkyrieProfile'': "They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead...so I say, 'Nice try!'"
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