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5th Aug '16 10:06:15 AM Mike
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-->-- '''T-Rex''' (on why [[PetPeeveTrope this trope]] bugs him), ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'', [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001270.html #1270]]

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-->-- '''T-Rex''' (on why [[PetPeeveTrope this trope]] bugs him), ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'', [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001270.html com/index.php?comic=1270 #1270]]
21st Jul '16 1:07:43 PM StFan
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-->-- '''T-Rex''' on why [[PetPeeveTrope this trope]] bugs him, ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'', [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001270.html #1270]]

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-->-- '''T-Rex''' on (on why [[PetPeeveTrope this trope]] bugs him, him), ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'', [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001270.html #1270]]



Now, if this were a real spaceship [[note]]okay, we don't actually have spaceships complex enough to have "bridges" or "captains" yet, but just bear with us here--and the point also applies just as well to the mundane sea-bound ships we ''do'' have[[/note]], your duty would be to give a short, concise description of the problem. To do otherwise would be irresponsible to the point of criminality.

But this is TV, and we need TheCaptain in this scene. That is why you Never Give The Captain A Straight Answer. Instead, you say something like, "You'd better come see for yourself," or the ubiquitous "Sir, I think you'd better (come) see this...," giving the character a reason to enter the scene, with the added bonus of allowing a surprised reaction to the crisis when he arrives.

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Now, if this were a real spaceship [[note]]okay, we don't actually have spaceships complex enough to have "bridges" or "captains" yet, but just bear with us here--and here -- and the point also applies just as well to the mundane sea-bound ships we ''do'' have[[/note]], your duty would be to give a short, concise description of the problem. To do otherwise would be irresponsible to the point of criminality.

But this is TV, and we need TheCaptain in this scene. That is why you Never Give The the Captain A a Straight Answer. Instead, you say something like, "You'd better come see for yourself," or the ubiquitous "Sir, I think you'd better (come) see this...," giving the character a reason to enter the scene, with the added bonus of allowing a surprised reaction to the crisis when he arrives.



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-->'''Ash:''' I think you should have a look at Kane. Something's happened.
-->'''Dallas:''' Serious?
-->'''Ash:''' Interesting.

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-->'''Ash:''' --->'''Ash:''' I think you should have a look at Kane. Something's happened.
-->'''Dallas:''' Serious?
-->'''Ash:'''
happened.\\
'''Dallas:''' Serious?\\
'''Ash:'''
Interesting.



-->'''Ash:''' Dallas, I think you should see Kane.
-->'''Dallas:''' Has his condition changed?
-->'''Ash:''' It's simpler if you come.

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-->'''Ash:''' --->'''Ash:''' Dallas, I think you should see Kane.
-->'''Dallas:'''
Kane.\\
'''Dallas:'''
Has his condition changed?
-->'''Ash:'''
changed?\\
'''Ash:'''
It's simpler if you come.



-->'''Kirk:''' Engine Room? Well done, Scotty.
-->'''[=McCoy=]:''' Jim! I think you'd better get down here.
-->'''Kirk:''' Bones?
-->'''[=McCoy=]:''' Better...hurry.
* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' also has this. In fact, [[spoiler:it's the exact same setup as ''Wrath of Khan'', down to the lines - only Kirk is the one dying, Spock is the one being called down, and Scotty is the one doing the calling]].

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-->'''Kirk:''' Engine Room? Well done, Scotty.
-->'''[=McCoy=]:'''
Scotty.\\
'''[=McCoy=]:'''
Jim! I think you'd better get down here.
-->'''Kirk:''' Bones?
-->'''[=McCoy=]:''' Better...
here.\\
'''Kirk:''' Bones?\\
'''[=McCoy=]:''' Better...
hurry.
* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' also has this. In fact, [[spoiler:it's the exact same setup as ''Wrath of Khan'', down to the lines - -- only Kirk is the one dying, Spock is the one being called down, and Scotty is the one doing the calling]].



--> '''John''': What is it?
--> '''Barkeeper''': I'll show you. (moving towards the backdoor)
--> '''John''': No. Fuck that, no. [[LampshadeHanging Stop playing games. Just tell me right now.]]

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--> '''John''': -->'''John:''' What is it?
--> '''Barkeeper''':
it?\\
'''Barkeeper:'''
I'll show you. (moving ''[moving towards the backdoor)
--> '''John''':
backdoor]''\\
'''John:'''
No. Fuck that, no. [[LampshadeHanging [[DefiedTrope Stop playing games. Just tell me right now.]]

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-->'''Autry''': Sheriff?
-->'''Hammond''': What is it, Frank?
-->'''Autry''': We’re still here at the Sheffield house. I think you’d better come over. There’s something you ought to see.
-->'''Hammond''': More bodies?
-->'''Autry''': No, sir. Uh, something sort of weird.
-->'''Hammond''': We'll be there.
* Inverted in the Literature/HoratioHornblower series. Hornblower doesn't give his ''crew'' a straight answer so that success will look better to them.

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-->'''Autry''': Sheriff?
-->'''Hammond''':
-->'''Autry:''' Sheriff?\\
'''Hammond:'''
What is it, Frank?
-->'''Autry''': We’re
Frank?\\
'''Autry:''' We're
still here at the Sheffield house. I think you’d you'd better come over. There’s There's something you ought to see.
-->'''Hammond''':
see.\\
'''Hammond:'''
More bodies?
-->'''Autry''':
bodies?\\
'''Autry:'''
No, sir. Uh, something sort of weird.
-->'''Hammond''':
weird.\\
'''Hammond:'''
We'll be there.
* Inverted in the Literature/HoratioHornblower ''Literature/HoratioHornblower'' series. Hornblower doesn't give his ''crew'' a straight answer so that success will look better to them.




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** And again when Odo calls Sisko to the promenade, saying that he'll "let [Sisko] be the judge" of whether or not what's going on is a problem. Somewhat {{Justified}} in that what's happening is that Kira's been possessed by a Prophet, and only The Sisko would know if it is a problem.
* This seems to happen to Creator/StephenColbert offscreen. Experienced fans know that "We have some footage - now, I have not seen this..." is the cue for an immediate fit of rage and/or tears when the clip actually rolls.

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** And again when Odo calls Sisko to the promenade, saying that he'll "let [Sisko] be the judge" of whether or not what's going on is a problem. Somewhat {{Justified}} in that what's happening is that Kira's been possessed by a Prophet, and only The Sisko would know if it is a problem.
* This seems to happen to Creator/StephenColbert offscreen. Experienced fans know that "We have some footage - -- now, I have not seen this..." is the cue for an immediate fit of rage and/or tears when the clip actually rolls.



--->'''Brigadier''': The thing is, there's been another robbery -
--->'''The Doctor''': ''(heading out of the door)'' Tell me on the way, Brigadier, tell me on the way! ''(as if a stage school teacher)'' You must cultivate a sense of urgency!

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--->'''Brigadier''': --->'''Brigadier:''' The thing is, there's been another robbery -
--->'''The Doctor''': ''(heading
robbery--\\
'''The Doctor:''' ''[heading
out of the door)'' door]'' Tell me on the way, Brigadier, tell me on the way! ''(as ''[as if a stage school teacher)'' teacher]'' You must cultivate a sense of urgency!



** Subverted in "The Time of Angels". Christian and Bob request clarification when told to "Come and see" by a squadmate: "It's not a school trip. Just tell me." [[spoiler: It is, in fact, the Weeping Angel - using their companions' voices. It still kills them.]]

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** Subverted in "The Time of Angels". Christian and Bob request clarification when told to "Come and see" by a squadmate: "It's not a school trip. Just tell me." [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It is, in fact, the Weeping Angel - -- using their companions' voices. It still kills them.]]



* Abby from ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' has been known to continue this even while Gibbs is ''standing right in front of her''.
** Abby's excuse for wasting time explaining technical details of her forensics before getting to the useful information also [[strike:justifies]] explains this. She works alone in her lab most of the time, and even though [[IWorkAlone she doesn't want an assistant]], she still likes to have company.

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* ''Series/{{NCIS}}'':
**
Abby from ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' has been known to continue this even while Gibbs is ''standing right in front of her''.
**
her''. Abby's excuse for wasting time explaining technical details of her forensics before getting to the useful information also [[strike:justifies]] explains this. She works alone in her lab most of the time, and even though [[IWorkAlone she doesn't want an assistant]], she still likes to have company.



--> '''Tony''': Oh, twenty bucks says [=McGee's=] about to say something nobody understands again.
--> '''[=McGee=]''': The GPS coordinates came bundled in a proprietary packet. Since it was a beta, I thought-
--> '''Gibbs''': I'm starting to think you can't help yourself, [=McGee=].
* A rather cruel example comes from the ''InspectorMorse'' episode "In Service of All the Dead", when Morse and Lewis climb a belltower. Morse is badly winded by the climb and clearly suffers from terrible vertigo (he can't bear to look up or down, or even move around). Lewis, by contrast, is skipping around happily when he sees a corpse far below and tells the elderly Morse that he'd best come see for himself.
* Inverted in ''Series/StargateSG1''. In "Fallen," SG-3 come across someone who appears to be one of the natives of Vis Uban, but turns out to be an amnesiac Daniel Jackson, [[spoiler:post-descension]]. The next scene involves SG-3 showing up and informing Jack O'Neill that "we found something you might want to see," but rather than making him go anywhere, it turns out that they actually brought Daniel along with them so he immediately enters the scene. It's not even drawn out for [[TheReveal drama]]; the audience clearly sees that it's Daniel in the same instant that SG-3 recognize him initially. The show still isn't adverse to the odd "Sir, there's something here you should see" though.
* On the ''Stargate'' bandwagon, ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' does this rather rampantly.

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--> '''Tony''': --->'''Tony:''' Oh, twenty bucks says [=McGee's=] about to say something nobody understands again.
--> '''[=McGee=]''':
again.\\
'''[=McGee=]:'''
The GPS coordinates came bundled in a proprietary packet. Since it was a beta, I thought-
--> '''Gibbs''':
thought--\\
'''Gibbs:'''
I'm starting to think you can't help yourself, [=McGee=].
* A rather cruel example comes from the ''InspectorMorse'' ''Series/InspectorMorse'' episode "In Service of All the Dead", when Morse and Lewis climb a belltower. Morse is badly winded by the climb and clearly suffers from terrible vertigo (he can't bear to look up or down, or even move around). Lewis, by contrast, is skipping around happily when he sees a corpse far below and tells the elderly Morse that he'd best come see for himself.
* Inverted in ''Series/StargateSG1''. In "Fallen," "Fallen", SG-3 come across someone who appears to be one of the natives of Vis Uban, but turns out to be an amnesiac Daniel Jackson, [[spoiler:post-descension]]. The next scene involves SG-3 showing up and informing Jack O'Neill that "we found something you might want to see," but rather than making him go anywhere, it turns out that they actually brought Daniel along with them so he immediately enters the scene. It's not even drawn out for [[TheReveal drama]]; the audience clearly sees that it's Daniel in the same instant that SG-3 recognize him initially. The show still isn't adverse to the odd "Sir, there's something here you should see" though.
* %%* On the ''Stargate'' bandwagon, ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' does this rather rampantly.



-->'''Jack:''' You wanna tell me where we're going, Sayid?
-->'''Sayid:''' It's better that you see it for yourself.
-->'''Jack:''' [[LampshadeHanging No, I'm not so sure it is]].
* ''{{Series/Eureka}}'', pilot episode. "That's not all we've found — better come take a look."
* ''Series/BabylonFive'': it is ALWAYS "Captain, I think you need to see this" or "you'd better get down here". (They really need to work on adding some security to those links.) The station is ''five miles'' long, so the captain may have to travel a considerable distance to "see this." The lifts and core shuttle help speed up the trip, but they also break down or get sabotaged a lot, typically while the captain is trying to use them.

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-->'''Jack:''' You wanna tell me where we're going, Sayid?
-->'''Sayid:'''
Sayid?\\
'''Sayid:'''
It's better that you see it for yourself.
-->'''Jack:'''
yourself.\\
'''Jack:'''
[[LampshadeHanging No, I'm not so sure it is]].
* ''{{Series/Eureka}}'', ''Series/{{Eureka}}'', pilot episode. "That's not all we've found — better come take a look."
* ''Series/BabylonFive'': it It is ALWAYS "Captain, I think you need to see this" or "you'd better get down here". (They really need to work on adding some security to those links.) The station is ''five miles'' long, so the captain may have to travel a considerable distance to "see this." The lifts and core shuttle help speed up the trip, but they also break down or get sabotaged a lot, typically while the captain is trying to use them.



* A rare example from not only a non-genre series but a comedy, at that: In ''Series/TheOfficeUS'', Kevin calls Michael from a supermarket and tells him he'd better get over there and see ... [[spoiler:what turns out to be a pregnant Jan]].

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* ''TabletopGame/StarFleetBattles''. ''Captain's Log'' magazine #47, short story "Into the Eagle's Nest". After a battle with the Romulans, Ensign Caldwell calls up the bridge from the shuttle bay.
-->'''Ensign Caldwell''': You'd better get down to the shuttle bay as soon as you can. There's something you need to see here.
-->'''Captain Lester''': What is it, Ensign?
-->'''Ensign Caldwell''': Just come quickly! Please, Sir?
** {{Justified}} because the Ensign was ordered by a superior officer to only tell the Captain what was going on face to face for security reasons.

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* A rare example from not only a non-genre series but a comedy, at that: In ''Series/TheOfficeUS'', Kevin calls Michael from a supermarket and tells him he'd better get over there and see ...see... [[spoiler:what turns out to be a pregnant Jan]]. \n\n[[AC:TabletopGames]]\n
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* ''TabletopGame/StarFleetBattles''. ''Captain's Log'' magazine #47, short story "Into the Eagle's Nest". After a battle with the Romulans, Ensign Caldwell calls up the bridge from the shuttle bay.
-->'''Ensign Caldwell''': You'd better get down to the shuttle bay as soon as you can. There's something you need to see here.
-->'''Captain Lester''': What is it, Ensign?
-->'''Ensign Caldwell''': Just come quickly! Please, Sir?
**
bay. {{Justified}} because the Ensign was ordered by a superior officer to only tell the Captain what was going on face to face face-to-face for security reasons.

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reasons.
-->'''Ensign Caldwell:''' You'd better get down to the shuttle bay as soon as you can. There's something you need to see here.\\
'''Captain Lester:''' What is it, Ensign?\\
'''Ensign Caldwell:''' Just come quickly! Please, Sir?
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-->'''Prophet:''' Nomad. Get to the rendezvous ASAP. There's something here you need to see.
-->'''[=Nomad=]:''' What have you got, Prophet?
-->'''Prophet:''' Just get up here. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

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-->'''Prophet:''' Nomad. Get to the rendezvous ASAP. There's something here you need to see.
-->'''[=Nomad=]:'''
see.\\
'''[=Nomad=]:'''
What have you got, Prophet?
-->'''Prophet:'''
Prophet?\\
'''Prophet:'''
Just get up here. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

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* Simultaneously {{invoked| Trope}}, {{subverted| Trope}}, and {{lampshade| Hanging}}d in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2003-07-20 this]] Webcomic/SchlockMercenary strip:
-->'''Tagon:''' That ''is'' suspicious.
-->'''Ennesby:''' See how much time we could have saved if you'd taken my word for it the first time around?

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* Simultaneously {{invoked| Trope}}, {{subverted| Trope}}, and {{lampshade| Hanging}}d in a ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2003-07-20 this]] Webcomic/SchlockMercenary strip:
strip]]:
-->'''Tagon:''' That ''is'' suspicious.
-->'''Ennesby:'''
suspicious.\\
'''Ennesby:'''
See how much time we could have saved if you'd taken my word for it the first time around?

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21st Jul '16 3:17:56 AM eroock
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[[quoteright:350:[[Webcomic/{{Chainsawsuit}} http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/no_straight_answer.jpg]]]]



* Parodied by [[http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/07/14/the-star-trek-dilemma/ this]] ''{{Chainsawsuit}}'' strip.

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* Parodied by [[http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/07/14/the-star-trek-dilemma/ this]] ''{{Chainsawsuit}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Chainsawsuit}}'' strip.
28th Mar '16 5:48:57 PM ANTMuddle
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** And [=McGee=] and his technobabble...

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** And [=McGee=] and his technobabble...{{technobabble}}...
20th Feb '16 8:56:37 AM pablo360
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-->{{Justified}} because the Ensign was ordered by a superior officer to only tell the Captain what was going on face to face for security reasons.

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-->{{Justified}} **{{Justified}} because the Ensign was ordered by a superior officer to only tell the Captain what was going on face to face for security reasons.




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* Simultaneously {{invoked| Trope}}, {{subverted| Trope}}, and {{lampshade| Hanging}}d in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2003-07-20 this]] Webcomic/SchlockMercenary strip:
-->'''Tagon:''' That ''is'' suspicious.
-->'''Ennesby:''' See how much time we could have saved if you'd taken my word for it the first time around?
31st Jan '16 10:48:20 AM GuiRitter
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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/{{Crysis}}'', where it's the "captain" that calls the "crew", and a rationale is offered.
-->'''Prophet:''' Nomad. Get to the rendezvous ASAP. There's something here you need to see.
-->'''[=Nomad=]:''' What have you got, Prophet?
-->'''Prophet:''' Just get up here. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
26th Jan '16 10:58:46 AM Korados
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But this is TV, and we need TheCaptain in this scene. That is why you NeverGiveTheCaptainAStraightAnswer. Instead, you say something like, "You'd better come see for yourself," or the ubiquitous "Sir, I think you'd better (come) see this...," giving the character a reason to enter the scene, with the added bonus of allowing a surprised reaction to the crisis when he arrives.

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But this is TV, and we need TheCaptain in this scene. That is why you NeverGiveTheCaptainAStraightAnswer.Never Give The Captain A Straight Answer. Instead, you say something like, "You'd better come see for yourself," or the ubiquitous "Sir, I think you'd better (come) see this...," giving the character a reason to enter the scene, with the added bonus of allowing a surprised reaction to the crisis when he arrives.
24th Jan '16 9:56:22 AM nombretomado
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* A too-flustered-to-explain variant occurs in the first season of ''StrikeWitches'', with Lynette unable to explain to Mio that Yoshika is fondling Shirley. For the most part, though, the show avoids this.

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* A too-flustered-to-explain variant occurs in the first season of ''StrikeWitches'', ''Anime/StrikeWitches'', with Lynette unable to explain to Mio that Yoshika is fondling Shirley. For the most part, though, the show avoids this.
29th Dec '15 1:13:22 AM FordPrefect
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** Ditto on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' when Major Kira commanding the ''Defiant'' returns through the wormhole where, on the station, Commander Sisko asks the major what she found. Kira, visibly terrified says, "Trouble!"

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** Ditto on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' when Major Kira commanding the ''Defiant'' returns through the wormhole where, on the station, Commander Sisko asks the major what she found. Kira, visibly terrified terrified, says, "Trouble!"
7th Nov '15 12:20:02 PM Rebu
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* In ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'', Cooper's father-in-law gives Cooper a call on CB, refusing to explain the situation on his end but instead requests him to come down to the farm and see for himself. Cooper does and sees the harvesting machines acting up, which could have been explained on the CB already.

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* In ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'', Cooper's father-in-law gives Cooper a call on CB, refusing to explain the situation on his end but instead requests him to come down to the farm and see for himself. Cooper does and sees the harvesting machines acting up, which could have been explained on the CB already. However, Coop is literally the only person on the farm with the technical know-how to actually maintain and fix said machines, so perhaps his dad thought it would be better if he just came in person.
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