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* ''Literature/7thTimeLoop'': Rishe keeps getting killed five years after her fiance, the prince, breaks off her betrothal to him. Each time, she's returned to the point where he breaks the betrothal. She's lived a total of six lives so far, one as part of a merchant's band, one as a servant in a noble house, one as an alchemist, one where she disguised herself as a man and became a soldier... She retains all the skills she's learned in each of these lives, noting only that she doesn't have the muscle strength from all the exercise she got when she was a soldier but she still retains her skill with a sword.

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* ''Literature/7thTimeLoop'': ''Literature/SeventhTimeLoop'': Rishe keeps getting killed five years after her fiance, the prince, breaks off her betrothal to him. Each time, she's returned to the point where he breaks the betrothal. She's lived a total of six lives so far, one as part of a merchant's band, one as a servant in a noble house, one as an alchemist, one where she disguised herself as a man and became a soldier... She retains all the skills she's learned in each of these lives, noting only that she doesn't have the muscle strength from all the exercise she got when she was a soldier but she still retains her skill with a sword.
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** InvertedTrope in the episode, "Your Shoe's Untied." [[Characters/SpongeBobSquarePantsTitularCharacter SpongeBob]] has not needed to re-tie his shoes in so long, he has actually forgotten how to do so.
*** In the episode "Pickles", [=SpongeBob=] goes through a HeroicBSOD when he thinks that he got an order wrong. It gets so bad that he starts wearing his pants on his head and [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker speaking in scrambled sentences]]. Mr. Krabs figures that if he can get [=SpongeBob=] to make a Krabby Patty again, then he'll go back to normal; he even compares it to riding a bicycle, then notices a bicycle on a boiling pot in [=SpongeBob's=] stove.

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** InvertedTrope {{Inverted|Trope}} in the episode, "Your Shoe's Untied." [[Characters/SpongeBobSquarePantsTitularCharacter SpongeBob]] has not needed to re-tie his shoes in so long, he has actually forgotten how to do so.
*** ** In the episode "Pickles", [=SpongeBob=] goes through a HeroicBSOD when he thinks that he got an order wrong. It gets so bad that he starts wearing his pants on his head and [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker speaking in scrambled sentences]]. Mr. Krabs figures that if he can get [=SpongeBob=] to make a Krabby Patty again, then he'll go back to normal; he even compares it to riding a bicycle, then notices a bicycle on a boiling pot in [=SpongeBob's=] stove.
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** Bruce Wayne has retired from being Batman, and has spent years being a bitter old recluse. However, he is a quite proficient fighter (though he no longer has the stamina for a prolonged battle), using his cane not just for attacking but for casually blocking thrown knives. We also occasionally see him throw a Batarang with all of his old pinpoint accuracy.
** In the episode "Out of the Past", he goes into a Lazarus Pit, restoring him to a younger physique and enabling him to fight much as he did his prime.
** In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'', he still knows how to make the antidote for Joker venom -- fortunately.

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** [[Characters/DCAUBatman Bruce Wayne Wayne]] has retired from being Batman, and has spent years being a bitter old recluse. However, he is a quite proficient fighter (though he no longer has the stamina for a prolonged battle), using his cane not just for attacking but for casually blocking thrown knives. We also occasionally see him throw a Batarang with all of his old pinpoint accuracy.
** *** In the episode "Out of the Past", he goes into a Lazarus Pit, restoring him to a younger physique and enabling him to fight much as he did his prime.
** *** In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'', he still knows how to make the antidote for Joker venom -- fortunately.



** InvertedTrope in the episode, "Your Shoe's Untied." Spongebob has not needed to re-tie his shoes in so long, he has actually forgotten how to do so.
** In the episode "Pickles", [=SpongeBob=] goes through a HeroicBSOD when he thinks that he got an order wrong. It gets so bad that he starts wearing his pants on his head and [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker speaking in scrambled sentences]]. Mr. Krabs figures that if he can get [=SpongeBob=] to make a Krabby Patty again, then he'll go back to normal; he even compares it to riding a bicycle, then notices a bicycle on a boiling pot in [=SpongeBob's=] stove.
* Happens in ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' when Sterling has a HeroicBSOD that causes him to think he's [[WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers Bob]]. He retains his skills in combat and the Russian language, putting both to good use throughout the episode. As with just about everything in the show, this is frequently lampshaded by him.

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** InvertedTrope in the episode, "Your Shoe's Untied." Spongebob [[Characters/SpongeBobSquarePantsTitularCharacter SpongeBob]] has not needed to re-tie his shoes in so long, he has actually forgotten how to do so.
** *** In the episode "Pickles", [=SpongeBob=] goes through a HeroicBSOD when he thinks that he got an order wrong. It gets so bad that he starts wearing his pants on his head and [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker speaking in scrambled sentences]]. Mr. Krabs figures that if he can get [=SpongeBob=] to make a Krabby Patty again, then he'll go back to normal; he even compares it to riding a bicycle, then notices a bicycle on a boiling pot in [=SpongeBob's=] stove.
* Happens in ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' when [[Characters/ArcherSterlingArcher Sterling Archer]] has a HeroicBSOD that causes him to think he's [[WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers Bob]]. He retains his skills in combat and the Russian language, putting both to good use throughout the episode. As with just about everything in the show, this is frequently lampshaded by him.
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* ''Literature/7thTimeLoop'': Rishe keeps getting killed five years after her fiance, the prince, breaks off her betrothal to him. Each time, she's returned to the point where he breaks the betrothal. She's lived a total of six lives so far, one as part of a merchant's band, one as a servant in a noble house, one as an alchemist, one where she disguised herself as a man and became a soldier... She retains all the skills she's learned in each of these lives, noting only that she doesn't have the muscle strength from all the exercise she got when she was a soldier but she still retains her skill with a sword.

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** In ''Videogame/GodOfWarRagnarok'' while first testing out the Draupnir Spear, Brok notes that Kratos is clearly familiar with using the weapon, to which Kratos answers that spears are the first weapons that Spartans learn to use.

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** In ''Videogame/GodOfWarRagnarok'' while first testing out the Draupnir Spear, Brok notes that Kratos is clearly familiar with using the weapon, to which Kratos answers that spears are the first weapons that Spartans learn to use. The ''Valhalla'' DLC also shows that [[spoiler:Kratos is capable of wielding the Blade of Olympus with just like he did]].
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Every character in a fictional work will always have a skill. These skills can be anything like choosing the right people for a job, stealth, pickpocketing and so on. Normally, a skill has to be learned, and once a character learns it, they have to practice it lest they forget how to do it.

Not these skills. These skills are learned once, and then the character never forgets how to do them, even if they haven't used them for years.

There is a StockPhrase representing this trope called "Like riding a bicycle/bike" as well as the phrase "An elephant never forgets". However, the page is not about either stock phrase. On an interesting side note, Russia has an equivalent phrase that says "мастерство не пропьёшь" (masterstvo ne propʹyošʹ), which literally translates to "mastery (you can) not drink away". As laugh-inducing as that may sound, any skill that doesn't go away due to alcohol has to qualify for this trope.

This is pretty much the default situation in TabletopGames that use skills. It is very rare for an RPG's rules to have characters lose skills even when they're not used for long periods of time. By extension, there are so many examples of this trope in VideoGames that it would be easier to list the video games that subvert or avert this trope.

This trope can result in DamnYouMuscleMemory. BagOfSpilling can happen and subvert this trope. This is the polar opposite of ForgotAboutHisPowers, in other words, an InvertedTrope. Compare and contrast with AmnesiacResonance, InstantExpert, NoStatAtrophy, SuddenlyAlwaysKnewThat, and CentipedesDilemma.

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Every character in a fictional work will always Fictional characters are interesting people, and as such they tend to have a skill. These skills can be wide variety of {{skills|AndTrainingTropes}}; anything like choosing from [[ImprobableAimingSkills shooting a fly out of the right people for air from half a job, stealth, pickpocketing and so on. Normally, a skill has mile away]], to be learned, and once [[SupremeChef cooking a character learns it, they mean soufflé]]. In real life, hard-learned skills (at least the really impressive ones) usually have to practice it be regularly practiced lest they forget how to do it.be forgotten or greatly diminished.

Not these skills.these. These skills are learned once, and then the character never forgets how to do them, even if they haven't used them for years.

There is a StockPhrase representing this trope called trope: "Like riding a bicycle/bike" as well as bicycle", based on the phrase "An elephant never forgets". However, the page is not about either stock phrase. On an interesting side note, Russia notion that muscle-memory based skills tend to be easily recalled even after a long period of disuse. Russian has an equivalent phrase that says phrase; "мастерство не пропьёшь" (masterstvo ne propʹyošʹ), which literally translates to "mastery (you can) not [[NationalStereotypes drink away". As laugh-inducing as that may sound, any skill that doesn't go away due to alcohol has to qualify for this trope.away]]".

This is pretty much the default situation in TabletopGames that use skills. It is very rare for an RPG's rules to have characters lose skills even when they're not used for long periods of time. By extension, there are so many examples of this trope in VideoGames that it would be easier to list is also essentially the video games that subvert or avert this trope.default for VideoGames: see NoStatAtrophy.

This trope can Can result in DamnYouMuscleMemory. BagOfSpilling can happen and subvert this trope. This is the The [[InvertedTrope polar opposite opposite]] of ForgotAboutHisPowers, in other words, an InvertedTrope. ForgotAboutHisPowers. Compare and contrast with AmnesiacResonance, InstantExpert, NoStatAtrophy, SuddenlyAlwaysKnewThat, and CentipedesDilemma.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Throughout the show, they have stated that Cutie Marks represent a pony's special talent and destiny, implying that a pony could never forget the skills associated to that talent. "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]" confirms this. First, by showing that when five ponies get their Cutie Marks switch, they try to do what the Cutie Mark represents, but they fail miserably. Finally, by showing that when Twilight gets them to remember what they are good at, they get their Cutie Marks back where they should be, and that their skills remain the same regardless of what Cutie Mark they have.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Throughout the show, they the showrunners have stated that Cutie Marks represent a pony's special talent and destiny, implying that a pony could never forget the skills associated to that talent. "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]" confirms this. First, by showing that when five ponies get their Cutie Marks switch, they try to do what the Cutie Mark represents, but they fail miserably. Finally, by showing that when Twilight gets them to remember what they are good at, they get their Cutie Marks back where they should be, and that their skills remain the same regardless of what Cutie Mark they have.

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* In ''Videogame/GodOfWarPS4'', after [[spoiler:re-equipping the Blades of Chaos]] Kratos not only shows that he's still capable of using them but [[spoiler:he retains (and can regain) variations of his old moves under different names]].
* In ''Videogame/GodOfWarRagnarok'' while first testing out the Draupnir Spear, Brok notes that Kratos is clearly familiar with using the weapon, to which Kratos answers that spears are the first weapons that Spartans learn to use.

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In ''Videogame/GodOfWarPS4'', after [[spoiler:re-equipping the Blades of Chaos]] Kratos not only shows that he's still capable of using them but [[spoiler:he retains (and can regain) variations of his old moves under different names]].
* ** In ''Videogame/GodOfWarRagnarok'' while first testing out the Draupnir Spear, Brok notes that Kratos is clearly familiar with using the weapon, to which Kratos answers that spears are the first weapons that Spartans learn to use.
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* In ''Videogame/GodOfWarRagnarok'' while first testing out the Draupnir Spear, Brok notes that Kratos is clearly familiar with using the weapon, to which Kratos answers that spears are the first weapons that Spartans learn to use.
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* In HarryBrown, Michael Caine's Harry Brown character is a elderly, retired SAS soldier. Gangs roam his neighborhood, and he along with everyone else avoids them. Then one night he's threatened by a punk with a knife. At first he's fearful and trying to get away, but when the punk tries to stick the knife in his chest... The scene ends with a dead punk and Brown deciding it's high time he put the skills he's learned to good use.

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* In HarryBrown, ''Film/HarryBrown'', Michael Caine's Harry Brown character is a elderly, retired SAS soldier. Gangs roam his neighborhood, and he along with everyone else avoids them. Then one night he's threatened by a punk with a knife. At first he's fearful and trying to get away, but when the punk tries to stick the knife in his chest... The scene ends with a dead punk and Brown deciding it's high time he put the skills he's learned to good use.
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* The English phrase "like riding a bicycle" refers to a skill that one never forgets after learning it. Common knowledge is that, once someone learns how to ride a bike, they never need to re-learn it; most of learning how to ride a bike is learning to maintain your balance on it. Thus, while one can always learn how to ride a bike better, the basics of how to do it are never forgotten once it's been ingrained. Similar skills include juggling and UsefulNotes/DrivingStick.

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* The English phrase "like riding a bicycle" refers to a skill that one never forgets after learning it. Common knowledge is that, once someone learns how to ride a bike, they never need to re-learn it; most of learning how to ride a bike is learning to maintain your balance on it. Thus, while one can always learn how to ride a bike better, the basics of how to do it are never forgotten once it's been ingrained. Similar skills include juggling and UsefulNotes/DrivingStick.DrivingStick.
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** When he appears in ''Return of the Joker'', Tim Drake has been retired from his position as Robin for 40 years, but he still retains some measure of his old skills, able to hear a [[{{Invisibility}} cloaked]] Batman coming "from a mile away."

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** When he appears in ''Return of the Joker'', Tim Drake has been retired from his position as Robin for 40 years, but he still retains some measure of his old skills, able to hear a [[{{Invisibility}} [[InvisibilityCloak cloaked]] Batman coming "from a mile away."
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* ''VideoGame/InfinityBlade'': The character you play never loses his experience levels, item mastery, or skills once he gains them. Not even if he dies multiple times, not even if he gets amnesia (which he did in the story), and not even if you go back to the very first cycle.

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* ''VideoGame/InfinityBlade'': The character you play Siris and Isa never loses his lose their experience levels, item mastery, or skills once he gains they gain them. Not even if he dies they die multiple times, not even if he either gets amnesia (which he Siris did in the story), and not even if you go back to the very first cycle.
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* The English phrase "like riding a bicycle" refers to a skill that one never forgets after learning it. Common knowledge is that, once someone learns how to ride a bike, they never need to re-learn it; most of learning how to ride a bike is learning to maintain your balance on it. Thus, while one can always learn how to ride a bike better, the basics of how to do it are never forgotten once it's been ingrained.

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* The English phrase "like riding a bicycle" refers to a skill that one never forgets after learning it. Common knowledge is that, once someone learns how to ride a bike, they never need to re-learn it; most of learning how to ride a bike is learning to maintain your balance on it. Thus, while one can always learn how to ride a bike better, the basics of how to do it are never forgotten once it's been ingrained. Similar skills include juggling and UsefulNotes/DrivingStick.
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* ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'': Sgt. Colon claims shooting a longbow is like "riding something you never forget being able to ride," while having terrible problems even drawing his bow, let alone aiming. In reality archery is most definitely NOT a case of this, it requires constant practice to keep your hand in. (The main reason crossbows became so much more popular.)

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* ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'': ''Literature/GuardsGuards'': Sgt. Colon claims shooting a longbow is like "riding something you never forget being able to ride," while having terrible problems even drawing his bow, let alone aiming. In reality archery is most definitely NOT a case of this, it requires constant practice to keep your hand in. (The main reason crossbows became so much more popular.)
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* In ''Disney/LadyAndTheTrampIIScampsAdventure'', Tramp's long since retired from his life of crime and has adjusted to his life as a housepet--however, he unlocks one locked door with awe-inspiring ease, showing that his criminal skills have not degraded in all those years.

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* In ''Disney/LadyAndTheTrampIIScampsAdventure'', ''WesternAnimation/LadyAndTheTrampIIScampsAdventure'', Tramp's long since retired from his life of crime and has adjusted to his life as a housepet--however, he unlocks one locked door with awe-inspiring ease, showing that his criminal skills have not degraded in all those years.
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* In ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', after [[spoiler:Caska's psyche was successfully restored, it's shown that she retains quite a bit of her old skills as a fighter despite years of helplessness]].
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* In ''Videogame/GodOfWar2018'', after [[spoiler:re-equipping the Blades of Chaos]] Kratos not only shows that he's still capable of using them but [[spoiler:he retains (and can regain) variations of his old moves under different names]].

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* In ''Videogame/GodOfWar2018'', ''Videogame/GodOfWarPS4'', after [[spoiler:re-equipping the Blades of Chaos]] Kratos not only shows that he's still capable of using them but [[spoiler:he retains (and can regain) variations of his old moves under different names]].
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