History Main / NeutralityBacklash

25th Sep '16 3:31:19 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This happened in ''MageTheAscension'' with the various magical Crafts, during the Ascension War. While some ancient magical groups formed together into the Traditions, against the rising Technocracy, others refused to join. Usually this was a result of either a particular craft being long-time enemies of a particular tradition, or because the craft was steeped in a particular local and culture, and didn't think the Ascension War affected them. Jump ahead to present day, and the Technocracy has eroded almost all belief in magic, the Traditions lost their most powerful elders, and the Ascension War was basically over. Guess who the Technocracy set their sights on then? One source book directly stated that the Crafts - such that survived without being picked off over the years - had the choice between being absorbed by specific Traditions or dying off completely.

to:

* This happened in ''MageTheAscension'' ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' with the various magical Crafts, during the Ascension War. While some ancient magical groups formed together into the Traditions, against the rising Technocracy, others refused to join. Usually this was a result of either a particular craft being long-time enemies of a particular tradition, or because the craft was steeped in a particular local and culture, and didn't think the Ascension War affected them. Jump ahead to present day, and the Technocracy has eroded almost all belief in magic, the Traditions lost their most powerful elders, and the Ascension War was basically over. Guess who the Technocracy set their sights on then? One source book directly stated that the Crafts - such that survived without being picked off over the years - had the choice between being absorbed by specific Traditions or dying off completely.
7th Sep '16 10:18:54 PM YgothanEru
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In a VisionQuest in ''Videogame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', Atton and the rest of your party confronts Kreia, a ManipulativeBastard. You can either take the side Atton or Kreia, or say you won't defend nor attack Kreia. Both Kreia and the party react badly, each saying "[[ApathyKilledTheCat Apathy is death]]" before [[FightingYourFriend attacking you]].

to:

* In a VisionQuest in ''Videogame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', Atton and the rest of your party confronts Kreia, a ManipulativeBastard. You can either take the side of Atton or Kreia, or say you won't defend nor attack Kreia. Both Kreia and the party react badly, each saying "[[ApathyKilledTheCat Apathy is death]]" before [[FightingYourFriend attacking you]].
21st Aug '16 8:58:11 PM Steven
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV: A Realm Reborn'', when the Empire finally goes on the offensive and the Grand Alliance is forced to mobilize, Ul'dah, Limsa Lominsa, and Gridania call for aid from the fellow Eorzean city-state of Ishgard. The Ishgardians, however, are occupied in a holy war against all of dragonkind, and the city's theocratic rulers refuse to help. This created much ill will, with Ul'dah's representative being particularly bitter that Ishgard's crusade takes precedence over TheEmpire bearing down on the whole of Eorzea. The aftereffects of this decision from Ishgard have not been touched upon yet, however.

to:

* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV: A Realm Reborn'', when the Empire finally goes on the offensive and the Grand Alliance is forced to mobilize, Ul'dah, Limsa Lominsa, and Gridania call for aid from the fellow Eorzean city-state of Ishgard. The Ishgardians, however, are occupied in a holy war against all of dragonkind, and the city's theocratic rulers refuse to help. This created much ill will, with Ul'dah's representative being particularly bitter that Ishgard's crusade takes precedence over TheEmpire bearing down on the whole of Eorzea. The aftereffects At one point in 2.4, one of your allies insists to the alliance that they must assist Ishgard, only for him to be told that the alliance has their own problems with the empire and the beastmen and they can't spare any more soldiers (making this decision from an IronicEcho). Ishgard have not been touched upon yet, however.slowly comes to terms that they need to aid their allies and they becomes the player character's greatest ally when they slay a monstrous dragon threatening their city and [[spoiler: granting them asylum after the player is falsely accused of murdering a political figure]]. Throughout the story in the 3.0 series, Ishgard reunites itself with the Grand Alliance, finally joining their cause instead of sitting by the sidelines, and the other city-states are very happy to welcome them back.


Added DiffLines:

* One episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' has Stan being exiled from his hometown simply because he refused to vote for one of two potential new school mascot and cited that they both suck. After getting a lecture on why voting is very important, Stan finally votes for a mascot, [[SpoofAesop only for everyone to yell at him for picking the wrong choice.]]
20th Aug '16 8:49:59 PM BigKlingy
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Subverted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. The ''Revelation'' path, where the protagonist refuses to side with either kingdom, ultimately results in the happiest ending of all three routes and is the only one where all the royal siblings live, and the only one where the real BigBad is fought.
20th Jul '16 6:47:13 AM DaveE
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** This gets elaborated on in the book ''Angels of Caliban''. Luther and his renegade Dark Angels try to turn Caliban into a truly neutral planet ruled by neither Horus nor the Imperium. Dark Angels players know how well this ends for Caliban.
20th Jul '16 6:33:24 AM DaveE
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Inverted in the latest ''[[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Power Man and Iron Fist]]'' series. Luke Cage and Danny Rand both intend to remain neutral for ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'', since they still remember how badly things went last time when they did take sides. Of course they then run into unrelated trouble because comic books.
26th Jun '16 5:58:08 PM eroock
Is there an issue? Send a Message


-->--'''Creator/{{Aesop}}'''

to:

-->--'''Creator/{{Aesop}}'''-->-- '''Creator/{{Aesop}}'''
1st May '16 9:01:27 PM Traze
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

**Conscience has nothing to do with it, non-voters are usually either lazy/uninterested, protesting something, or simply don't like any of the candidates.
7th Apr '16 4:00:13 PM Steven
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Often immediately after elections in the United States, people [[TakeAThirdOption vote for a third party or don't vote at all]] [[WhatTheHellHero get called out]] for their decision by those sharing their political beliefs. This is particularly prominent when the election results in the party elected has in little in common with the non-voter's beliefs. The people who do vote often feel that the non-voter split the vote and allowed the _> lesser evil win. However, the non-voter is quick to point off that they [[HonorBeforeReason let their conscience guide them]].

to:

* Often immediately after elections in the United States, people [[TakeAThirdOption vote for a third party or don't vote at all]] [[WhatTheHellHero get called out]] for their decision by those sharing their political beliefs. This is particularly prominent when the election results in the party elected has in little in common with the non-voter's beliefs. The people who do vote often feel that the non-voter split the vote and allowed the _> lesser evil win. However, the non-voter is quick to point off that they [[HonorBeforeReason let their conscience guide them]].them]].
* Many heated debates online will always have people taking a side and sticking with it. People that try to TakeAThirdOption or try to make fun of both sides for their extremes will usually get called out by both sides for wasting everyone's time.
1st Apr '16 2:38:40 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* One of AesopsFables, ''The Bat, the Birds, and the Beasts'', tells of a Bat who refused to take sides in a coming war between the Birds and the Beasts. The war is avoided at the last moment, but when the Bat tries to join in the revelry, both sides threaten to tear him apart. Probably the UrExample of this trope.

to:

* One of AesopsFables, Literature/AesopsFables, ''The Bat, the Birds, and the Beasts'', tells of a Bat who refused to take sides in a coming war between the Birds and the Beasts. The war is avoided at the last moment, but when the Bat tries to join in the revelry, both sides threaten to tear him apart. Probably the UrExample of this trope.
This list shows the last 10 events of 138. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.NeutralityBacklash