History Main / NeutralNoLonger

10th Apr '18 4:42:27 PM ZimFan89
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Fanfic/TheNewAdventuresOfInvaderZim'': Throughout Season 1, Gaz makes it clear that she is totally indifferent to the fight for the fate of the Earth. However, during the seasonal StoryArc's climax, she decides to aid Zim by [[spoiler: giving him the location of [[LostSuperweapon Project Domination]]]], [[EvilIsPetty purely to spite Dib]] and in the hope that her hated rival Viera will get killed in the process.
5th Mar '18 7:48:26 AM Kezajaws
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* VideoGame/Fallout4 continues this. When you side with the Railroad, the Institute or the Brotherhood of Steel, there comes a point in the main quest line that throws you into a conflict between the Brotherhood and the Institute (Railroad PCs are working with the Institute while secretly organizing a synth rebellion). Picking one side means making enemies of the other. If you side with the Minutemen, you have to get expelled from the Institute before their quest line can proceed. You can also make enemies of the Brotherhood to take them out optionally in the Minutemen ending.
** The DLC Far Harbor also has this: [[spoiler: During the main quest line, you can choose to kill the citizens of Far Harbor by unleashing the island's creatures on them. You can grant the Children of Atom "Division" by launching the nuke in their submarine base. You can also choose to turn Far Harbor against Acadia. Or you can just kill all of them, YouBastard. There's a peaceful option, too: killing the Children of Atom leader and replacing him with a synth. However, that's exactly what DiMA, Acadia's leader, did to Far Harbor: killed the town leader and replaced her with a synth. If you convince DiMa to wipe out one of the sides he'll admit that he can't stay neutral in the conflict any longer.]]
29th Jan '18 6:59:16 AM 59Efra
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The first kind is rather straightforward. The neutral party is initially undecided until the villains press their BeraerkButton. Then the neutral party will oppose the villains from then on.

to:

* The first kind is rather straightforward. The neutral party is initially undecided until the villains press their BeraerkButton.BerserkButton. Then the neutral party will oppose the villains from then on.
28th Jan '18 9:45:01 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
Is there an issue? Send a Message


In The Pantheon/TropePantheon, this trope is represented by [[Film/{{Casablanca}} Richard “Rick” Blaine]] from the film ''Casablanca''.
27th Jan '18 3:30:02 PM MysticStarLover1221
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:


In The Pantheon/TropePantheon, this trope is represented by [[Film/{{Casablanca}} Richard “Rick” Blaine]] from the film ''Casablanca''.
20th Jan '18 1:59:56 PM FGHIK
Is there an issue? Send a Message


There are many innocents in the epic battle between good and evil. Some people will join on the side of good because [[RapePillageAndBurn the evil invaders]] [[DoomedHometown destroyed their home]]. A lot of people will [[BlackShirts join on the side of evil]] because EvilIsSexy, RuleOfCool, or [[CardCarryingVillain just 'cause]].

to:

There are many innocents in the epic battle between good and evil. Some people will join on the side of good because [[RapePillageAndBurn the evil invaders]] [[DoomedHometown destroyed their home]]. A lot of people will [[BlackShirts join on the side of evil]] evil because EvilIsSexy, RuleOfCool, or [[CardCarryingVillain just 'cause]].
9th Jan '18 9:01:27 AM Luigifan
Is there an issue? Send a Message


There are many innocents in the epic battle between good and evil. Some people will join on the side of good because the evil invaders destroyed their home. A lot of people will join on the side of evil because EvilIsSexy, RuleOfCool, or [[CardCarryingVillain just 'cause]].

Then there are the people who deliberately try to stay out of the conflict. These could be the people in the HiddenElfVillage or the ActualPacifist. Often they don't have a dog in the fight either way or they're just opportunists supporting both sides. No matter how you slice it, these people don't support either side more or less than any other side. That is, until the good guys turn out to be a bunch of self righteous {{jerkass}}es or the villains KickTheDog. At that point, ''it's on'' and there's going to be hell to pay.

to:

There are many innocents in the epic battle between good and evil. Some people will join on the side of good because [[RapePillageAndBurn the evil invaders invaders]] [[DoomedHometown destroyed their home. home]]. A lot of people will [[BlackShirts join on the side of evil evil]] because EvilIsSexy, RuleOfCool, or [[CardCarryingVillain just 'cause]].

Then there are the people who deliberately try to stay out of the conflict. These could be the people in the HiddenElfVillage or the ActualPacifist. Often Often, they don't have a dog in the fight either way or they're just opportunists supporting both sides. No matter how you slice it, these people don't support either side more or less than any other side. That is, until the good guys turn out to be a bunch of self righteous self-righteous {{jerkass}}es or the villains KickTheDog. At that point, ''it's on'' and there's going to be hell to pay.



* The first kind is rather straight up. The neutral party is initially undecided until the villains decide to desecrate the CrystalDragonJesus. Then the neutral party will oppose the villains from then on.
* The second kind is less frequently used. As it turns out sometimes heroes and villains are really bad at making first impressions. After initially meeting the heroes the neutral party will decide that evil is so much cooler and join them, or vice versa. This isn't a HeelFaceTurn or a FaceHeelTurn because these people were neutral at the start of the story and would have remained so if the villains and/or heroes weren't a bunch of a-holes. They will often only go out of their way to oppose someone out of vengeance.

to:

* The first kind is rather straight up. straightforward. The neutral party is initially undecided until the villains decide to desecrate the CrystalDragonJesus.press their BeraerkButton. Then the neutral party will oppose the villains from then on.
* The second kind is less frequently used. As it turns out out, sometimes heroes and villains are really bad at making first impressions. After initially meeting the heroes heroes, the neutral party will decide that evil is so much cooler and join them, or vice versa. This isn't a HeelFaceTurn or a FaceHeelTurn FaceHeelTurn, because these people were neutral at the start of the story and would have remained so if the villains and/or heroes weren't a bunch of a-holes. They will often only go out of their way to oppose someone out of vengeance.



* ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'' It takes nearly the ''entire series'' for Cade Skywalker to stop being a selfish {{Jerkass}}. After the Sith have endangered and killed just about everyone he gives a damn about, Cade declares war on them though he still doesn't accept the Jedi calling yet. ''That'' doesn't happen until the ''ComicBook/FinalBattle''.
** The Jedi themselves choose to sit the war out thinking the Sith would turn on itself soon. But when the Sith get more despotic they soon started to join with the Fel Empire and Alliance Remnant in the war.

to:

* ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'' ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'': It takes nearly the ''entire series'' for Cade Skywalker to stop being a selfish {{Jerkass}}. After the Sith have endangered and killed just about everyone he gives a damn about, Cade declares war on them them, though he still doesn't accept the Jedi calling yet. ''That'' doesn't happen until the ''ComicBook/FinalBattle''.
** The Jedi themselves choose to sit the war out out, thinking the Sith would turn on itself soon. But when the Sith get more despotic despotic, they soon started to join with the Fel Empire and Alliance Remnant in the war.



* Uatu TheWatcher is a prime example. His race of omniscient watchers swears an oath of neutrality. But as Galactus approached Earth, intent on consuming it, Uatu spoke directly to the ComicBook/FantasticFour, telling where to find the Ultimate Nullifier. Not a direct alignment change, but enough involvement to end his neutrality.
* In ''ComicBook/SerenityLeavesOnTheWind'', when the [[LaResistance New Resistance]] catches up with ''Serenity'' Mal initially rejects their request to be their leader. But after the Alliance captures Zoe and kills most of the NR in separate incidents, he finally gets angry enough.

to:

* Uatu TheWatcher is a prime example. His race of omniscient watchers swears an oath of neutrality. But as Galactus approached Earth, intent on consuming it, Uatu spoke directly to the ComicBook/FantasticFour, telling them where to find the Ultimate Nullifier. Not a direct alignment change, but enough involvement to end his neutrality.
* In ''ComicBook/SerenityLeavesOnTheWind'', when the [[LaResistance New Resistance]] catches up with ''Serenity'' ''Serenity'', Mal initially rejects their request to be their leader. But after the Alliance captures Zoe and kills most of the NR in separate incidents, he finally gets angry enough.
6th Jan '18 9:35:30 PM Nintendoman01
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Grand Moff Tarkin demonstrates the Death Star's ability to be a roving KillSat on the planet Alderaan in the hopes that other systems who want to join the Rebel Alliance would think twice. It backfired; not only did it hasten the defection of those who were already considering it, but a whole swath of otherwise neutral systems joined up because of it.
2nd Jan '18 4:20:00 PM Bugfragged
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The nation of Heyama in ''VideoGame/ForeverHome'' refuses to get involved in the conflict between Auria and Tren, but they're eventually forced to take a stand against Tren's Judgment Faction when the latter razes a Heyama housing complex.
25th Dec '17 11:59:32 AM Nintendoman01
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Anime/BloodPlus'': When she discovers her past, Saya is initially reluctant to jump into the fray against chiropterans. She changes her mind and goes with the Red Shield when she loses her father George.

to:

* ''Anime/BloodPlus'': When she discovers her past, Saya is initially reluctant to jump into the fray against chiropterans. She changes her mind and goes with the Red Shield when she loses her father George.George to the chiropterans.



* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': In Volume 5, the [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] of Menagerie are largely unwilling to help Blake fight the [[WesternTerrorists White Fang]], who are planning an assault on Haven Academy. This all changes in "True Colors" when [[spoiler:White Fang members, acting on [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam's]] orders, attack Blake's parents, the chieftains of Menagerie, and try to kill them. The assassination fails, but the attack nonetheless provides just the proof and incentive Blake needs to rally the citizens against the White Fang.]]

to:

* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': In Volume 5, the [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]] of Menagerie are largely unwilling to help Blake fight the [[WesternTerrorists White Fang]], who are planning an assault on Haven Academy. This all changes in "True Colors" when [[spoiler:White Fang members, acting on [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adam's]] orders, attack Blake's parents, the chieftains of Menagerie, and try to kill them. The assassination fails, but the attack nonetheless provides just the proof and incentive Blake needs to rally persuade the citizens against the White Fang.to overcome their BystanderSyndrome and help her.]]
This list shows the last 10 events of 259. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.NeutralNoLonger