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28th May '16 8:04:54 AM Materioptikon
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** For starters, the Time Lord President-for-Life Rassilon stands accused of multiple charges of genocide, successful deletion of entire races from the timeline, successful deletion of entire continua he judged not favorable to the Time Lords, experimentation on sentients (Time Lords included), countless charges of MindRape (including the manipulation that unhinged the Time Lord known as Koschei, making him directly responsible for every act of the madman) and one omnicide attempt. Internal info also reveals multiple purges, mounting evidence of massive racism (seeding life across the Universe to better fit the Time Lord template), and reckless experimentation on - and even more reckless disposal of - sentient weaponry. All in all, every piece of evidence paints him as a paranoid, hypocritical, psychotic individual obsessed with his own mortality and supremacy over all other forms of life.

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** For starters, the Time Lord President-for-Life Rassilon stands accused of multiple charges of genocide, successful deletion of entire races from the timeline, successful deletion of entire continua he judged not favorable to the Time Lords, experimentation on sentients (Time Lords included), countless charges of MindRape (including the manipulation that unhinged the Time Lord known as Koschei, alias TheMaster, making him directly responsible for every act of the madman) and one omnicide attempt. Internal info also reveals multiple purges, mounting evidence of massive racism (seeding life across the Universe to better fit the Time Lord template), and reckless experimentation on - and even more reckless disposal of - sentient weaponry. All in all, every piece of evidence paints him as a paranoid, hypocritical, psychotic individual obsessed with his own mortality and supremacy over all other forms of life.
26th May '16 10:29:40 PM Materioptikon
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* The Time Lords and various other races throughout ''Series/DoctorWho'':

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* The Time Lords and various other races throughout ''Series/DoctorWho'':''Series/DoctorWho''. The Court acknowledges the overwhelmingly positive difference the rogue denominated "The Doctor" has come to make in the grand scheme of things, but wishes to examine much more closely the society he hails from:
26th May '16 10:20:50 PM Materioptikon
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* The Time Lords and various other races throughout ''Series/DoctorWho''.

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* The Time Lords and various other races throughout ''Series/DoctorWho''.''Series/DoctorWho'':
** For starters, the Time Lord President-for-Life Rassilon stands accused of multiple charges of genocide, successful deletion of entire races from the timeline, successful deletion of entire continua he judged not favorable to the Time Lords, experimentation on sentients (Time Lords included), countless charges of MindRape (including the manipulation that unhinged the Time Lord known as Koschei, making him directly responsible for every act of the madman) and one omnicide attempt. Internal info also reveals multiple purges, mounting evidence of massive racism (seeding life across the Universe to better fit the Time Lord template), and reckless experimentation on - and even more reckless disposal of - sentient weaponry. All in all, every piece of evidence paints him as a paranoid, hypocritical, psychotic individual obsessed with his own mortality and supremacy over all other forms of life.
5th May '16 11:34:32 AM RogueJedi
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* The Dharma Initiative in {{Series/Lost}} left mysterious NumbersStations and donkey wheels for anyone to find.
7th Feb '16 9:25:38 PM ShorinBJ
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## Directly responsible for the creation of '''two''' horribly powerful, ravenous, immensely destructive beings (the Pegasus [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Replicators]] and the [[TheVirus Wraith]]). After exterminated their mistakes they chose to ascend. Rather than use their ascended knowledge to fix the problems they had created they left their monstrous creations to slaughter countless millions of lives.

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## Directly responsible for the creation of '''two''' horribly powerful, ravenous, immensely destructive beings (the Pegasus [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Replicators]] and the [[TheVirus Wraith]]). After exterminated exterminating their mistakes mistakes, they chose to ascend. Rather than use their ascended knowledge to fix the problems they had created they left their monstrous creations to slaughter countless millions of lives.



## Intentionally created, in the Pegasus Galaxy, Stargates that terminate in orbit around planets without including a warning system.

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## Intentionally created, in the Pegasus Galaxy, Stargates that terminate in orbit around planets without including a warning system. In fairness, sometimes even the gates on planets opened into environments that had become non-survivable in the intervening centuries, and of course hostile beings may lie in wait at other gates, so anyone with a lick of sense will send a probe through first.



## The Morgan Le Fay case bears further elaboration, as she very carefully leaked information to the humans, while the rest of the Ancients watched her. The moment she tried to do anything but be vague, she was dragged away, never to be seen again. [[spoiler: At least until the Ancient needed her again.]]
## The primary aspect of the Ancients non-interference pact is long as there are no ascended powers being used. That seems reasonable. Yet when [[spoiler:Adria fully ascended, and later came down to our lowly plane of existence and acted to her full powers, did the Ancients finally stand up and say, "No"?]] Well, no. While [[spoiler:Adria]] returned to the Ori galaxy and never returned to the Milky Way afterwards, thus the Ancients were still playing by their (pompous, overblown, immoral) rules, the very fact that their rules allow for such a loophole merely strengthens the case against them.

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## The Morgan Le Fay case bears further elaboration, as she very carefully leaked information to the humans, while the rest of the Ancients watched her. The moment she tried to do anything but be vague, she was dragged away, never to be seen again. [[spoiler: At [[spoiler:At least until the Ancient Ancients needed her again.]]
## The primary aspect of the Ancients non-interference pact is long as there are no ascended powers being used. That seems reasonable. Yet when [[spoiler:Adria fully ascended, and later came down to our lowly plane of existence and acted to with her full powers, did the Ancients finally stand up and say, "No"?]] Well, no. While [[spoiler:Adria]] returned to the Ori galaxy and never returned to the Milky Way afterwards, thus the Ancients were still playing by their (pompous, overblown, immoral) rules, the very fact that their rules allow for such a loophole merely strengthens the case against them.



## Furthermore, there is evidence that the Ancients were effectively incompetent, as they 1) were not able to cure a plague which a Goa'uld symbiote is able to cure with no side-effects, 2) were not able to utilize their own technology to go back into time, instead, creating a time loop/trap for other races to discover, 3) were not able to defeat either the Wraith or the Replicators even though the "primitive" Tau'ri were able to, and 4) were not able to hold Atlantis after being given control of it back again, because of their arrogance and general incompetence.

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## Furthermore, there is evidence that the Ancients were effectively incompetent, as they 1) a) were not able to cure a plague which a Goa'uld symbiote is able to cure with no side-effects, 2) side effects, b) were not able to utilize their own technology to go back into time, instead, instead creating a time loop/trap for other races to discover, 3) c) were not able to defeat either the Wraith or the Replicators even though the "primitive" Tau'ri were able to, and 4) d) were not able to hold Atlantis after being given control of it back again, because of their arrogance and general incompetence.



## Allowed one of their number (Orlin) to give advanced weaponry to a civilisation attempting to defend itself against the Goa'uld -- said civilisation then proceeded to use this technology to plot conquest against other worlds. Then acted to prevent this aggression by committing genocide against said civilisation. While leaving the advanced weaponry ''intact'', thereby providing themselves with an excuse to murder any ''other'' race curious enough to try activating it.
## So, the prosecution suggests we extend the verdict to Guilty, guilty, hypocritical LawfulStupid Energy Being scumbags. Thankfully, the Ancients turned out to be ''so'' neglectful they actually left behind the keys to creating the sangra'al, a device capable of destroying ''themselves''. All in favor of capital punishment?

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## Allowed one of their number (Orlin) to give advanced weaponry to a civilisation civilization attempting to defend itself against the Goa'uld -- said civilisation civilization then proceeded to use this technology to plot conquest against other worlds. Then acted to prevent this aggression by committing genocide against said civilisation.civilization. While leaving the advanced weaponry ''intact'', thereby providing themselves with an excuse to murder any ''other'' race curious enough to try activating it.
## So, the prosecution suggests we extend the verdict to Guilty, guilty, hypocritical LawfulStupid Energy Being EnergyBeing scumbags. Thankfully, the Ancients turned out to be ''so'' neglectful they actually left behind the keys to creating the sangra'al, a device capable of destroying ''themselves''. All in favor of capital punishment?
17th Jan '16 5:02:39 PM nombretomado
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* In their exodus from this area of the galaxy, the Precursors of the ''StarControl'' series absent-mindedly left behind a ''humongous battleship armed with superweapons that can wipe out entire fleets with each shot''. Naturally, the enslaving Ur-Quan Kzer-Za stumble across it, naming it Sa-Matra. Among the numerous other artifacts the Precursors left behind are: [[EarthShatteringKaboom bombs used as planeteering tools]] (one is used to put a hole in the outer layers of a star, causing it to flare like a supernova and sterilizing the entire inhabited system, and another is deemed powerful enough to destroy the Sa-Matra ''only after amplifying modifications are added by the Chmrr''), the Mycon (biological planeteering tools that evolved into a race of fungi who [[PlanetLooters terraform inhabited water worlds by force]] to their own scorching ideal conditions), and Inter-Dimensional-Fatigue-wave-generating devices (the study of which gets the Androsynth eaten by [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian extradimensional horrors]]).

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* In their exodus from this area of the galaxy, the Precursors of the ''StarControl'' ''VideoGame/StarControl'' series absent-mindedly left behind a ''humongous battleship armed with superweapons that can wipe out entire fleets with each shot''. Naturally, the enslaving Ur-Quan Kzer-Za stumble across it, naming it Sa-Matra. Among the numerous other artifacts the Precursors left behind are: [[EarthShatteringKaboom bombs used as planeteering tools]] (one is used to put a hole in the outer layers of a star, causing it to flare like a supernova and sterilizing the entire inhabited system, and another is deemed powerful enough to destroy the Sa-Matra ''only after amplifying modifications are added by the Chmrr''), the Mycon (biological planeteering tools that evolved into a race of fungi who [[PlanetLooters terraform inhabited water worlds by force]] to their own scorching ideal conditions), and Inter-Dimensional-Fatigue-wave-generating devices (the study of which gets the Androsynth eaten by [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian extradimensional horrors]]).
12th Jan '16 5:28:29 PM nombretomado
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* Your Honor, the plaintiff seeks an injunction against Jas, the alleged Elder God of ''{{Runescape}}''. Jas left behind a stone that was supposedly used by the current gods to create the current Runescape from an empty plane. This is up for debate, but it is clear that the Stone of Jas was the real reason behind the devastating God Wars, which resulted in the extinction of several races, turned a populated area into the cursed region known as the Wilderness, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking resulted in a single tribe of goblins hiding in a cave for centuries]].

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* Your Honor, the plaintiff seeks an injunction against Jas, the alleged Elder God of ''{{Runescape}}''.''VideoGame/{{Runescape}}''. Jas left behind a stone that was supposedly used by the current gods to create the current Runescape from an empty plane. This is up for debate, but it is clear that the Stone of Jas was the real reason behind the devastating God Wars, which resulted in the extinction of several races, turned a populated area into the cursed region known as the Wilderness, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking resulted in a single tribe of goblins hiding in a cave for centuries]].
24th Dec '15 3:33:45 AM eroock
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->''That ancient race sure built a lot of weapons... I mean did they really need to spend all their time building stuff to destroy the universe? Like, how about the galaxy's biggest movie theatre or some kind of super-advanced water park? All work and no play guys, seriously.''
--> -- '''Grif''', ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''

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->''That ->''"That ancient race sure built a lot of weapons... I mean did they really need to spend all their time building stuff to destroy the universe? Like, how about the galaxy's biggest movie theatre or some kind of super-advanced water park? All work and no play guys, seriously.''
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'''Grif''', ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''
14th Nov '15 11:38:20 AM nombretomado
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* ''WebVideo/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'': The Emperor has this view of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'s Old Ones, not deigning to give every other lifeform a proper push towards evolution and fucking up every attempt at actually doing something good. Or, in his words:

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* ''WebVideo/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'': ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'': The Emperor has this view of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'s Old Ones, not deigning to give every other lifeform a proper push towards evolution and fucking up every attempt at actually doing something good. Or, in his words:
25th Sep '15 11:29:33 PM nombretomado
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* The Consu from the ''OldMansWar Universe'' have [[spoiler:created the sentient race Obin without a sense of consciousness. Even though it turns out the Consu considers lacking consciousness to be an ideal state of being, the fact that they never told the Obin this little fact, and treated the Obin like a bunch of irritating insects who should stop asking questions definitely qualifies them as neglectful.]]

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* The Consu from the ''OldMansWar ''Literature/OldMansWar Universe'' have [[spoiler:created the sentient race Obin without a sense of consciousness. Even though it turns out the Consu considers lacking consciousness to be an ideal state of being, the fact that they never told the Obin this little fact, and treated the Obin like a bunch of irritating insects who should stop asking questions definitely qualifies them as neglectful.]]
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