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13th Nov '15 10:53:52 AM Willbyr
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* In ''KatawaShoujo'', Hisao's condition revealing itself at the worst possible time costs him any chance of a relationship with Iwanako, but if the player makes the right choices, he gets a deeper and more fulfilling relationship with a Yamaku schoolmate he most likely otherwise would not have met.
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* In ''KatawaShoujo'', ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'', Hisao's condition revealing itself at the worst possible time costs him any chance of a relationship with Iwanako, but if the player makes the right choices, he gets a deeper and more fulfilling relationship with a Yamaku schoolmate he most likely otherwise would not have met.
14th Oct '15 11:25:38 AM dsneybuf
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I wrote this under the assumption that Julie Andrews played Maria *because* of "Mary Poppins", but it turns out that Fox already had her in mind, and just watched "Mary Poppins" to make sure her appeal translated to movie screens
* Creator/JulieAndrews wouldn't have starred in ''Film/MaryPoppins'' if she didn't lose the leading role of ''Film/MyFairLady'' to Creator/AudreyHepburn, as Creator/{{Warner|Bros}} was filming it at the same time Creator/{{Disney}} was filming ''Poppins''. Andrews went on to beat Hepburn in the Best Actress category of both the Golden Globes and the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s, and play another singing nanny in ''Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic'', the highest-grossing movie of its time.
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* Creator/JulieAndrews wouldn't have starred in ''Film/MaryPoppins'' if she didn't lose the leading role of ''Film/MyFairLady'' to Creator/AudreyHepburn, as Creator/{{Warner|Bros}} was filming it at the same time Creator/{{Disney}} was filming ''Poppins''. Andrews went on to beat Hepburn in the Best Actress category of both the Golden Globes and the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s, and play another singing nanny in ''Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic'', the highest-grossing movie of its time.Award}}s.
11th Oct '15 8:24:48 PM Nezumi
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Indentation incorrectly "corrected" — this is a separate example from the same series of games, not part of the main example. Did proper correction.
* The ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'' essentially invokes this, by having the plot of the games be the huge global conflict and TimeyWimeyBall repercussions that results when Einstein prevents UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. At the start of ''Red Alert 3'', the Soviets erase Einstein himself from history after he removes Hitler, to prevent their own defeat. This works in the short term... but both ends up creating a new faction even more dangerous to them than the Allies were, and wiping out some of the most powerful weapons in their arsenal because nuclear technology was never developed without Einstein.
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* ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'' ** The ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'' series as a whole essentially invokes this, by having the plot of the games be the huge global conflict and TimeyWimeyBall repercussions that results when Einstein prevents UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. At UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. ** Furthermore, at the start of ''Red Alert 3'', the Soviets erase Einstein himself from history after he removes Hitler, to prevent their own defeat. This works in the short term... but both ends up creating a new faction even more dangerous to them than the Allies were, and wiping out some of the most powerful weapons in their arsenal because nuclear technology was never developed without Einstein.
3rd Oct '15 6:19:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* Pretty much the whole point of ''SlumdogMillionaire''. If Jamal's life had sucked any less then he never would have been on WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire let alone [[spoiler: win the million and his happily ever after with Latika.]]
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* Pretty much the whole point of ''SlumdogMillionaire''.''Film/SlumdogMillionaire''. If Jamal's life had sucked any less then he never would have been on WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire let alone [[spoiler: win the million and his happily ever after with Latika.]]

* In ''Film/StarTrek'' (reboot), it is implied that the ''Kelvin's'' destruction at the hands of the ''Narada'' led to Starfleet developed a beefed up and tough brand new ''Enterprise''. Also Subverted (And therefore ultimately zigzagged), in that one of the themes is regardless of how their starting points had changed (Particularly Kirk and Spock, whose circumstances had changed most significantly over the original universe), the entire main cast still wound up on the Enterprise in the same configuration as in the original universe
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': ** In a non-time-travel example, ''Film/{{Star Trek VI|The Undiscovered Country}}'' shows that it was the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis that caused the Klingons to even consider peace with the Federation. ** In ''Film/StarTrek'' (reboot), it is implied that the ''Kelvin's'' destruction at the hands of the ''Narada'' led to Starfleet developed a beefed up and tough brand new ''Enterprise''. Also Subverted (And therefore ultimately zigzagged), in that one of the themes is regardless of how their starting points had changed (Particularly Kirk and Spock, whose circumstances had changed most significantly over the original universe), the entire main cast still wound up on the Enterprise in the same configuration as in the original universe

*** In a non-time-travel example, ''Film/{{Star Trek VI|The Undiscovered Country}}'' shows that it was the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis that caused the Klingons to even consider peace with the Federation.
3rd Oct '15 6:18:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Film/StarTrek'', it is implied that the ''Kelvin's'' destruction at the hands of the ''Narada'' led to Starfleet developed a beefed up and tough brand new ''Enterprise''. ** Also Subverted (And therefore ultimately zigzagged), in that one of the themes is regardless of how their starting points had changed (Particularly Kirk and Spock, whose circumstances had changed most significantly over the original universe), the entire main cast still wound up on the Enterprise in the same configuration as in the original universe
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* In ''Film/StarTrek'', ''Film/StarTrek'' (reboot), it is implied that the ''Kelvin's'' destruction at the hands of the ''Narada'' led to Starfleet developed a beefed up and tough brand new ''Enterprise''. ** ''Enterprise''. Also Subverted (And therefore ultimately zigzagged), in that one of the themes is regardless of how their starting points had changed (Particularly Kirk and Spock, whose circumstances had changed most significantly over the original universe), the entire main cast still wound up on the Enterprise in the same configuration as in the original universe

* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': In the episode "Tapestry", Captain Picard expresses regret for his hot-headed ways which led to him getting stabbed in a bar fight. Of course, he learns that if not for that bar fight, he wouldn't have become TheCaptain that everybody came to know and love. ** ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Next Generation]]'' also played with this again in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" where it is discovered that the destruction of an earlier Enterprise[[note]]The featured ship was the -D, the earlier Enterprise was the -C.[[/note]] helped lead to peace between the Klingons and the Federation.
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': ** In the episode "Tapestry", Captain Picard expresses regret for his hot-headed ways which led to him getting stabbed in a bar fight. Of course, he learns that if not for that bar fight, he wouldn't have become TheCaptain that everybody came to know and love. ** ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Next Generation]]'' also played Played with this again in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" where it is discovered that the destruction of an earlier Enterprise[[note]]The featured ship was the -D, the earlier Enterprise was the -C.[[/note]] helped lead to peace between the Klingons and the Federation.

** In ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' the faction from the future specifically state while they could've warned Earth about the initial Xindi attack that kills 7 million people, they figured it only be after the sneak attack that Starfleet would heed the greater danger. Notably it is the attack that leads to the ''Enterprise'' being retrofitted into a warship and the introduction of the famous photon torpedoes. * In the famous ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial "Genesis of the Daleks", the Doctor states that although the creation of his [[BigBad archenemies the Daleks]] will have horrific consequences for the universe, there is good that will come of it, namely the many species that will join forces out of necessity to defeat them. ** Of course, it ''also'' lead to the extinction of the Time Lords. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, Doctor]]. *** On the other hand, maybe that was the good. [[spoiler: Particularly since it's revealed in "The End Of Time" that they're planning on committing genocide on an unthinkable scale by destroying ''time itself'', in order that they can win the Time War and ascend to godhood.]] *** The Time War would not have happened had the Daleks never come into existence. *** The Doctor also says that the war [[WhatYouAreInTheDark showed who they really were]], so even without the Daleks they may have planned on destroying time anyway. The Daleks just pushed the plan forward
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** * In ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' the faction from the future specifically state while they could've warned Earth about the initial Xindi attack that kills 7 million people, they figured it only be after the sneak attack that Starfleet would heed the greater danger. Notably it is the attack that leads to the ''Enterprise'' being retrofitted into a warship and the introduction of the famous photon torpedoes. * ''Series/DoctorWho'': ** In the famous ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial "Genesis of the Daleks", the Doctor states that although the creation of his [[BigBad archenemies the Daleks]] will have horrific consequences for the universe, there is good that will come of it, namely the many species that will join forces out of necessity to defeat them. ** Of course, it ''also'' lead to the extinction of the Time Lords. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, Doctor]]. *** On the other hand, maybe that was the good. [[spoiler: Particularly since it's revealed in "The End Of Time" that they're planning on committing genocide on an unthinkable scale by destroying ''time itself'', in order that they can win the Time War and ascend to godhood.]] *** The Time War would not have happened had the Daleks never come into existence. *** The Doctor also says that the war [[WhatYouAreInTheDark showed who they really were]], so even without the Daleks they may have planned on destroying time anyway. The Daleks just pushed the plan forwardthem.

*** The mission leader was also inspired by a Dalek not exterminating her during the events of "Journey's End." ** Don't forget the Doctor not only letting but ''causing'' the Vesuvius eruption that destroyed the city of Pompeii. The alternative was to let the Pyroviles take over the world.

* The difference between Ace Rimmer (what a guy!) and the loser Rimmer in ''Series/RedDwarf'' is that Ace was held back in school one year. It made him determined to succeed.
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* ''Series/RedDwarf'': ** The difference between Ace Rimmer (what a guy!) and the loser Rimmer in ''Series/RedDwarf'' is that Ace was held back in school one year. It made him determined to succeed.

* John Sheppard in ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', whose reputation was [[ReassignedToAntarctica ruined]] by his ill-fated attempt to rescue his friends in Afghanistan against direct orders. Had this not happened, he would've likely not been found to have an ATA gene and a natural knack at using it (on par with O'Neill) and wouldn't have ended up as part of the Atlantis mission. It would've likely failed without him. Ditto for Eli Wallace in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', who was forced to drop out of MIT when his mother contracted HIV from a patient of hers. He probably wouldn't have spent his time playing [=MMORPGs=] and solving puzzles that the government had secretly planted there. He wouldn't have ended up on the ''Destiny'' and saved their hides multiple times.
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* John Sheppard in ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', whose reputation was [[ReassignedToAntarctica ruined]] by his ill-fated attempt to rescue his friends in Afghanistan against direct orders. Had this not happened, he would've likely not been found to have an ATA gene and a natural knack at using it (on par with O'Neill) and wouldn't have ended up as part of the Atlantis mission. It would've likely failed without him. Ditto for him. * Eli Wallace in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', who was forced to drop out of MIT when his mother contracted HIV from a patient of hers. He probably wouldn't have spent his time playing [=MMORPGs=] and solving puzzles that the government had secretly planted there. He wouldn't have ended up on the ''Destiny'' and saved their hides multiple times.

** AlternativeCharacterInterpretation in that [[spoiler:Loghain knew the battle was lost and knew that sending more troops to die was futile. In all fairness, he tried to keep the king away from the battle (Cailan ''was'' his best friend's son, after all), but Cailan's head was filled with glorious stories of brave Grey Wardens defeating hordes of darkspawn. That and the fact that the whole battle plan at Ostagar was stupid in the first place]].

** Some quest lines require the player to be fooled by a villain into helping him before they can proceed to bash his head in. *** Including one that starts around level 10, and ends at level 80ish [[spoiler:involving Grand Apothecary Putress betraying Sylvanas and the Horde.]] * The ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'' essentially invokes this, by having the plot of the games be the huge global conflict and TimeyWimeyBall repercussions that results when Einstein prevents UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. ** At the start of ''Red Alert III'', the Soviets erase Einstein from history after he removes Hitler, to prevent their own defeat. This works in the short term... but both ends up creating a new faction even more dangerous to them than the Allies were, and wiping out some of the most powerful weapons in their arsenal because nuclear technology was never developed without Einstein.
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** Some quest lines require the player to be fooled by a villain into helping him before they can proceed to bash his head in. *** Including one that starts around level 10, and ends at level 80ish [[spoiler:involving Grand Apothecary Putress betraying Sylvanas and the Horde.]] * The ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'' essentially invokes this, by having the plot of the games be the huge global conflict and TimeyWimeyBall repercussions that results when Einstein prevents UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. ** UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. At the start of ''Red Alert III'', 3'', the Soviets erase Einstein himself from history after he removes Hitler, to prevent their own defeat. This works in the short term... but both ends up creating a new faction even more dangerous to them than the Allies were, and wiping out some of the most powerful weapons in their arsenal because nuclear technology was never developed without Einstein.

* ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Star Trek: Borg]]'': When you're part of an Away Team beamed aboard a Borg cube, you have to take the option to disregard what your fandom sense tells you, and start a fight with a few Borg drones who would have ignored you otherwise, even though you inevitably lose and get assimilated. This means you get the access codes to the cube's systems, and once Q sends you back in time to try again you use them to your advantage.
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* ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Star Trek: Borg]]'': ''VideoGame/StarTrekBorg'': When you're part of an Away Team beamed aboard a Borg cube, you have to take the option to disregard what your fandom sense tells you, and start a fight with a few Borg drones who would have ignored you otherwise, even though you inevitably lose and get assimilated. This means you get the access codes to the cube's systems, and once Q sends you back in time to try again you use them to your advantage.
3rd Oct '15 6:14:17 AM Morgenthaler
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* The quote above comes from the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode in which Captain Picard expresses regret for his hot-headed ways which led to him getting stabbed in a bar fight. Of course, he learns that if not for that bar fight, he wouldn't have become TheCaptain that everybody came to know and love.
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* The quote above comes from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': In the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode in which "Tapestry", Captain Picard expresses regret for his hot-headed ways which led to him getting stabbed in a bar fight. Of course, he learns that if not for that bar fight, he wouldn't have become TheCaptain that everybody came to know and love.
3rd Oct '15 6:13:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the most recent film adaptation of ''TheTimeMachine'' the protagonist invents the machine so he could save his fiancée's life. So, since if not for her death, he wouldn't have invented it, she has to die in every timeline in which he and his machine appear.
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* In the most recent film adaptation of ''TheTimeMachine'' ''Film/TheTimeMachine2002'' the protagonist invents the machine so he could save his fiancée's life. So, since if not for her death, he wouldn't have invented it, she has to die in every timeline in which he and his machine appear.
3rd Oct '15 3:15:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''MiamiVice'', the two detectives come together over the loss of their partner/brother.
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* In ''MiamiVice'', ''Series/MiamiVice'', the two detectives come together over the loss of their partner/brother.

** Also John Sheppard in ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', whose reputation was [[ReassignedToAntarctica ruined]] by his ill-fated attempt to rescue his friends in Afghanistan against direct orders. Had this not happened, he would've likely not been found to have an ATA gene and a natural knack at using it (on par with O'Neill) and wouldn't have ended up as part of the Atlantis mission. It would've likely failed without him. Ditto for Eli Wallace in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', who was forced to drop out of MIT when his mother contracted HIV from a patient of hers. He probably wouldn't have spent his time playing [=MMORPGs=] and solving puzzles that the government had secretly planted there. He wouldn't have ended up on the ''Destiny'' and saved their hides multiple times. * On ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' it is the [[CurbStompBattle defeat]] Starfleet suffered at the hands of the Borg that directly led to the design and construction of [[CoolStarship the Defiant class of ships]]. These came in handy when the war with the Dominion broke out.
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** Also * John Sheppard in ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', whose reputation was [[ReassignedToAntarctica ruined]] by his ill-fated attempt to rescue his friends in Afghanistan against direct orders. Had this not happened, he would've likely not been found to have an ATA gene and a natural knack at using it (on par with O'Neill) and wouldn't have ended up as part of the Atlantis mission. It would've likely failed without him. Ditto for Eli Wallace in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', who was forced to drop out of MIT when his mother contracted HIV from a patient of hers. He probably wouldn't have spent his time playing [=MMORPGs=] and solving puzzles that the government had secretly planted there. He wouldn't have ended up on the ''Destiny'' and saved their hides multiple times. * On ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' it is the [[CurbStompBattle defeat]] Starfleet suffered at the hands of the Borg that directly led to the design and construction of [[CoolStarship the Defiant class of ships]]. These came in handy when the war with the Dominion broke out.

* Despite the stigma of the "cursed jacket" from an episode of BetterWithYou, the characters realize that the horrible failures they suffered while wearing it actually led to something better. In one story, if his jacket hadn't fallen, interfering with the game and causing the Yankees to lose, giving him the stigma of "that guy who screwed the Yankees," he would have fallen to his death instead.
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* Despite the stigma of the "cursed jacket" from an episode of BetterWithYou, ''Series/BetterWithYou'', the characters realize that the horrible failures they suffered while wearing it actually led to something better. In one story, if his jacket hadn't fallen, interfering with the game and causing the Yankees to lose, giving him the stigma of "that guy who screwed the Yankees," he would have fallen to his death instead.

* In "Profile in Silver," an episode of the 1980's revival of ''TheTwilightZone'', a 22nd-century Harvard history professor time-travels to observe the assassination of his ancestor John F. Kennedy. Unable to just stand by and watch, he intervenes and prevents the assassination, only to learn that his act will lead to nuclear war and the destruction of humanity. He finds a way to save JFK and prevent the war. * In ''[[Series/{{The100}} The 100]]'', the group sent down to test whether Earth had recovered enough to be habitable were supposed to land near Mount Weather so they could take advantage of the site's shelter and supplies. They actually landed about twenty miles away -- a good thing, since [[spoiler:they would have been much easier prey for the Mountain Men if they had encountered them immediately upon landing]].
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* In "Profile in Silver," an episode of the 1980's revival of ''TheTwilightZone'', ''Series/TheTwilightZone1985'', a 22nd-century Harvard history professor time-travels to observe the assassination of his ancestor John F. Kennedy. Unable to just stand by and watch, he intervenes and prevents the assassination, only to learn that his act will lead to nuclear war and the destruction of humanity. He finds a way to save JFK and prevent the war. * In ''[[Series/{{The100}} The 100]]'', ''Series/{{The 100}}'', the group sent down to test whether Earth had recovered enough to be habitable were supposed to land near Mount Weather so they could take advantage of the site's shelter and supplies. They actually landed about twenty miles away -- a good thing, since [[spoiler:they would have been much easier prey for the Mountain Men if they had encountered them immediately upon landing]].
18th Aug '15 2:08:17 PM Prfnoff
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* The opera ''BeethovensLastNight'' revolves around Fate giving Beethoven the chance to erase miserable moments from his life. In each instance, Beethoven discovers his misery, heartbreak, and eventual deafness all contributed to his incredible music. In the end, Beethoven refuses to erase even a single moment.
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* The opera ''BeethovensLastNight'' RockOpera ''Music/BeethovensLastNight'' revolves around Fate giving Beethoven the chance to erase miserable moments from his life. In each instance, Beethoven discovers his misery, heartbreak, and eventual deafness all contributed to his incredible music. In the end, Beethoven refuses to erase even a single moment.
31st Jul '15 2:35:44 PM phoenix
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* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "The City on the Edge of Forever", Kirk realizes he must allow his LoveInterest Edith Keeler to die in order to prevent a nuclear war--and the triumph of NaziGermany in WorldWarII.
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* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "The City on the Edge of Forever", Kirk realizes he must allow his LoveInterest Edith Keeler to die in order to prevent a nuclear war--and the triumph of NaziGermany UsefulNotes/NaziGermany in WorldWarII.
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