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20th Jun '16 1:54:53 PM Art199
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It is a given that in battles between the forces of good and evil, [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin the heroes will win 99% of the time and the villains will be defeated in the end]]. So, the writers will come up with scenarios that stack the odds in the villains' favor and give them minor victories, thus raising tension by getting the audience to think that ''maybe'' this time the hero won't save the day.

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It is a given that in battles between the forces of good and evil, [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin the heroes will win 99% most of the time and the villains will be defeated in the end]].end. So, the writers will come up with scenarios that stack the odds in the villains' favor and give them minor victories, thus raising tension by getting the audience to think that ''maybe'' this time the hero won't save the day.
25th May '16 9:53:01 AM Willbyr
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* In ''ProjectARMS'', Alice has possessed Katsume, Ryo appears to have no choice but to kill them both, Keith White is quickly on his way to being a living god and destroying everyone on the planet to prove it, and the ARMS weapons - the only things that have a chance of stopping him - have been deactivated. [[spoiler:It's only after Kei is able to appeal to Azreal and get the ARMS weapons back up that things start to turn in their favor.]]

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* In ''ProjectARMS'', ''Manga/ProjectARMS'', Alice has possessed Katsume, Ryo appears to have no choice but to kill them both, Keith White is quickly on his way to being a living god and destroying everyone on the planet to prove it, and the ARMS weapons - the only things that have a chance of stopping him - have been deactivated. [[spoiler:It's only after Kei is able to appeal to Azreal and get the ARMS weapons back up that things start to turn in their favor.]]
23rd May '16 7:50:41 AM PaulA
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* Creator/DavidGemmell's novel ''Literature/{{Legend}}'' is about an undertrained and massively outnumbered group of defenders holding the line against an invading horde, knowing that they have no chance of actually defeating the invaders but hoping to take long enough to die that reinforcements will arrive. The horde is literally moments away from killing the last of the defenders when salvation arrives.
24th Apr '16 3:55:37 AM erforce
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** ''MortalKombat9'' sees things get worse: [[spoiler:Raiden's attempts to prevent Armageddon see the situation deteriorate until the only surviving Earthrealm warriors are Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade. The only reason Shao Khan's attempt to conquer the realm failed was because Raiden finally realized that the future message of "He must win" referred to Shao Khan: allowing him to conquer Earthrealm would force the Elder Gods into action.]]

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** ''MortalKombat9'' ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'' sees things get worse: [[spoiler:Raiden's attempts to prevent Armageddon see the situation deteriorate until the only surviving Earthrealm warriors are Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade. The only reason Shao Khan's attempt to conquer the realm failed was because Raiden finally realized that the future message of "He must win" referred to Shao Khan: allowing him to conquer Earthrealm would force the Elder Gods into action.]]
24th Apr '16 3:54:02 AM erforce
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* At one point in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', ''every single playable character'' (and Master Hand) is dead (well, trophyified). Then Dedede's timed badges go off...

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* At one point in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'', ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', ''every single playable character'' (and Master Hand) is dead (well, trophyified). Then Dedede's timed badges go off...



* ''[[MortalKombat Mortal Kombat 3]]'': To break it down, Shao Khan revives his dead wife on Earthrealm, allowing him to step through the boundaries separating it from Outworld and claim her, thus forcing a merger of the two realms without the need of the eponymous tournament. Not only that, but he immediately steals the souls of everyone on Earth, and sends out extermination squads to take care of {{The Chosen One}}s who had their souls spared. He barely avoided victory, due to his underestimating the power and tenacity of his foes.

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* ''[[MortalKombat Mortal Kombat 3]]'': ''Franchise/MortalKombat''
** ''VideoGame/MortalKombat3'':
To break it down, Shao Khan revives his dead wife on Earthrealm, allowing him to step through the boundaries separating it from Outworld and claim her, thus forcing a merger of the two realms without the need of the eponymous tournament. Not only that, but he immediately steals the souls of everyone on Earth, and sends out extermination squads to take care of {{The Chosen One}}s who had their souls spared. He barely avoided victory, due to his underestimating the power and tenacity of his foes.



** ''New Vegas'' has this as a ''possible'' ending; depending on how thoroughly you complete sidequests and make friends with folks that have a lot of firepower, the ultimate battle for Hoover Dam is either an unbelievably harsh battle of attrition, or a hysterically drawn out CurbStompBattle as all your allies come rushing in for one BigDamnHeroes moment after the other.

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** ''New Vegas'' ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' has this as a ''possible'' ending; depending on how thoroughly you complete sidequests and make friends with folks that have a lot of firepower, the ultimate battle for Hoover Dam is either an unbelievably harsh battle of attrition, or a hysterically drawn out CurbStompBattle as all your allies come rushing in for one BigDamnHeroes moment after the other.



* The second Air Gem test in the FanRemake of VideoGame/KingsQuestII. The canonical games glossed over this point, but the kingdom is in ruins, the hero's kids have been condemned to death, and the hero himself is close to breaking... then in walks the BigBad offering a DealWithTheDevil.
** Canonical ones in the series: walking into the wedding hall in VideoGame/KingsQuestVI to see "Cassima" enthusiastically declaring her intent to marry the GrandVizier. And in VideoGame/KingsQuestIV when Lolotte nastily declares that Rosella will have the StandardHeroReward of marrying her grotesque "son" [[spoiler: turns out he's just a prisoner, too]], strips Rosella of all her possessions, and locks her up.

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* The second Air Gem test in the FanRemake of VideoGame/KingsQuestII.''VideoGame/KingsQuestII''. The canonical games glossed over this point, but the kingdom is in ruins, the hero's kids have been condemned to death, and the hero himself is close to breaking... then in walks the BigBad offering a DealWithTheDevil.
** Canonical ones in the series: walking into the wedding hall in VideoGame/KingsQuestVI to see "Cassima" enthusiastically declaring her intent to marry the GrandVizier. And in VideoGame/KingsQuestIV ''VideoGame/KingsQuestIV'' when Lolotte nastily declares that Rosella will have the StandardHeroReward of marrying her grotesque "son" [[spoiler: turns out he's just a prisoner, too]], strips Rosella of all her possessions, and locks her up.
19th Apr '16 1:40:44 AM erforce
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* Common occurrence throughout the Franchise/IndianaJones series:
** The Last Crusade: First, Donovan thinks he’s found the grail when he enters its secret chamber. However, Elsa hands him a gaudy cup and he drinks from it, assuming he’ll become immortal, but he ages to death instead. Afterward, Elsa takes the grail within yards of the temple’s exit, but sets off a self-destruct sequence by stepping on the forbidden seal. In a TakeMyHand scenario, she reaches for the grail below as she hangs onto Indy over a chasm. Her hand can nearly grasp it, which encourages her to keep trying despite the danger. Right as she’s about to grab it, her other hand slips from Indy’s hold and she falls to her death.
** The Raiders of the Lost Ark: Indiana Jones arrives on the Nazi-controlled island and finds The Ark, but the Nazis capture him and hold him and Marion prisoner while they open it up. [[spoiler:This turns out to be a bad idea on their part, due to God hating the Nazis and the fact that the Nazis look at the Ark when it is opened. The angels that come out of the Ark soon attack everyone except Indy and Marion (who kept their eyes closed). All the Nazis on the island are killed and Indy and Marion are freed, as when they reopen their eyes they find that their bonds are cut.]]

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* Common occurrence throughout the Franchise/IndianaJones ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series:
** The Last Crusade: ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade'': First, Donovan thinks he’s found the grail when he enters its secret chamber. However, Elsa hands him a gaudy cup and he drinks from it, assuming he’ll become immortal, but he ages to death instead. Afterward, Elsa takes the grail within yards of the temple’s exit, but sets off a self-destruct sequence by stepping on the forbidden seal. In a TakeMyHand scenario, she reaches for the grail below as she hangs onto Indy over a chasm. Her hand can nearly grasp it, which encourages her to keep trying despite the danger. Right as she’s about to grab it, her other hand slips from Indy’s hold and she falls to her death.
** The Raiders of the Lost Ark: ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'': Indiana Jones arrives on the Nazi-controlled island and finds The Ark, but the Nazis capture him and hold him and Marion prisoner while they open it up. [[spoiler:This turns out to be a bad idea on their part, due to God hating the Nazis and the fact that the Nazis look at the Ark when it is opened. The angels that come out of the Ark soon attack everyone except Indy and Marion (who kept their eyes closed). All the Nazis on the island are killed and Indy and Marion are freed, as when they reopen their eyes they find that their bonds are cut.]]
30th Mar '16 8:18:17 PM TrendingToon1
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* In ''WesternAnimation/BarbieMariposa'', Henna comes within two seconds of killing Queen Marabella, becoming Queen herself and letting the Skeezites invade Flutterfield.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/BarbieMariposa'', Henna comes within two seconds of killing Queen Marabella, becoming Queen herself and letting the Skeezites invade Flutterfield.Flutterfield, but she wakes up just in time.
26th Mar '16 7:22:58 PM ngh93
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* Jafar comes disturbingly close to triumphing over ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', but chooses to try and subject Aladdin to a FateWorseThanDeath rather than actually killing him. It's a bit more justified in the [[Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar sequel]] since Jafar's a genie and can't directly kill Aladdin, but still, he comes close several times. And if it weren't for Iago's HeelFaceTurn, Jafar very likely would've won.

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* Jafar comes disturbingly close to triumphing over ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', but chooses to try and subject Aladdin to a FateWorseThanDeath rather than actually killing him. It's a bit more justified in the [[Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar sequel]] since Jafar's a genie and can't directly kill Aladdin, but still, he comes close several times. And if it weren't for Iago's HeelFaceTurn, Iago pulling a HeelFaceTurn and betraying him, Jafar very likely would've won.
26th Mar '16 7:21:52 PM ngh93
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* Jafar comes disturbingly close to triumphing over ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', but chooses to try and subject Aladdin to a FateWorseThanDeath rather than actually killing him. It's a bit more justified in the [[Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar sequel]] since Jafar's a genie and can't directly kill Aladdin, but still, he comes close several times. If it weren't for Iago betraying him, Jafar would've won.

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* Jafar comes disturbingly close to triumphing over ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', but chooses to try and subject Aladdin to a FateWorseThanDeath rather than actually killing him. It's a bit more justified in the [[Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar sequel]] since Jafar's a genie and can't directly kill Aladdin, but still, he comes close several times. If And if it weren't for Iago betraying him, Iago's HeelFaceTurn, Jafar very likely would've won.
26th Mar '16 4:31:35 PM MajinAkuma
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** [[Main/StalkerWithACrush Yubel]] activated a Card that let her remove 5 of her Cards and Jaden has to choose one to get into her Hand, whenever he used 2 Spellcards. At the End he had to choose between Super Polymerization (a Card Yubel wants to use in order to fuse the 12 Dimentions together) and Grinder Golem (which would have cause Jaden to use, thanks to Yubels Main Monsters [[AttackReflector Effect]]) Jaden chooses the former, but counters by fusing him and Yubel instead

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** [[Main/StalkerWithACrush Yubel]] activated a Card that let her remove 5 of her Cards and Jaden Judai has to choose one to get into her Hand, whenever he used 2 Spellcards. At the End he had to choose between Super Polymerization (a Card Yubel wants to use in order to fuse the 12 Dimentions together) and Grinder Golem (which would have cause Jaden Judai to use, thanks to Yubels Main Monsters [[AttackReflector Effect]]) Jaden Judai chooses the former, but counters by fusing him and Yubel instead
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