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16th Nov '17 1:20:33 PM ironballs16
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* This is why they had to get Al Capone on tax evasion; everything ''worse'' that he'd done, he'd managed to squeazle his way out of. The taxes were the only thing the authorities could actually make stick.

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* This is why they had to get Al Capone on tax evasion; everything ''worse'' that he'd done, he'd managed to squeazle his way out of. [[JusticeByOtherLegalMeans The taxes were the only thing the authorities could actually make stick.stick]].
16th Nov '17 1:17:10 PM ironballs16
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* Happens frequently in ''TabletopGames/DungeonsAndDragons'', occasionally between players but more commonly between the player(s) and the DM. As an example, early versions of the rules for truth-divining spells (I.E. spells that would tell if player was lying or not) [[FromACertainPointOfView did not account for half-truths]], [[ExactWords creative wording]], or lies that [[IBelieveYouBelieveIt the teller believed were true]]. Thus they could be circumvented by inventive players, like mages hypnotizing their willing partymates to forget incriminating details of their activities, or smooth talkers finding ways to omit details from their responses or answer in a way that's "technically" truthful ("Me? No, I didn't kill the prince, that lion that mysteriously got released into his bedroom did.")

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* Happens frequently in ''TabletopGames/DungeonsAndDragons'', occasionally between players but more commonly between the player(s) and the DM. As an example, early versions of the rules for truth-divining spells (I.E. spells that would tell if player was lying or not) [[FromACertainPointOfView did not account for half-truths]], [[ExactWords creative wording]], or lies that [[IBelieveYouBelieveIt [[IBelieveThatYouBelieveIt the teller believed were true]]. Thus they could be circumvented by inventive players, like mages hypnotizing their willing partymates to forget incriminating details of their activities, or smooth talkers finding ways to omit details from their responses or answer in a way that's "technically" truthful ("Me? No, I didn't kill the prince, that lion that mysteriously got released into his bedroom did.")
16th Nov '17 1:16:50 PM ironballs16
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* Happens frequently in ''TabletopGames/DungeonsAndDragons'', occasionally between players but more commonly between the player(s) and the DM. As an example, early versions of the rules for truth-divining spells (I.E. spells that would tell if player was lying or not) did not account for half-truths, creative wording, or lies that the teller believed were true. Thus they could be circumvented by inventive players, like mages hypnotizing their willing partymates to forget incriminating details of their activities, or smooth talkers finding ways to omit details from their responses or answer in a way that's "technically" truthful ("Me? No, I didn't kill the prince, that lion that mysteriously got released into his bedroom did.")

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* Happens frequently in ''TabletopGames/DungeonsAndDragons'', occasionally between players but more commonly between the player(s) and the DM. As an example, early versions of the rules for truth-divining spells (I.E. spells that would tell if player was lying or not) [[FromACertainPointOfView did not account for half-truths, half-truths]], [[ExactWords creative wording, wording]], or lies that [[IBelieveYouBelieveIt the teller believed were true.true]]. Thus they could be circumvented by inventive players, like mages hypnotizing their willing partymates to forget incriminating details of their activities, or smooth talkers finding ways to omit details from their responses or answer in a way that's "technically" truthful ("Me? No, I didn't kill the prince, that lion that mysteriously got released into his bedroom did.")
10th Oct '17 8:36:39 PM Linda58
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* In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/10731591/chapters/23783283 Echoes of the Past]]'', a principal threatens to expel a 9-year old Laurel for punching a bully, citing she signed a contract "not to harm" another student. She replies that contracts signed by minors aren't legally binding; and if they ''were'' he'd have to expel the bullies too, since while their bullying might not have physical, it was still harmful. The principal backs down.
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6th Oct '17 1:46:02 PM leohuangcw
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* [[http://notalwaysworking.com/taxing-taxing-part-2/34362 A student harangued by the tax board]] finally decides that if they're going to be taxed as a resident of California, then they need to receive the services their taxes pay for... like a refund on the $10,000 out-of-state college tuition they've had to pay as a non-resident.

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* [[http://notalwaysworking.com/taxing-taxing-part-2/34362 [[https://notalwaysright.com/taxing-taxing-part-2/60491/ A student harangued by the tax board]] finally decides that if they're going to be taxed as a resident of California, then they need to receive the services their taxes pay for... like a refund on the $10,000 out-of-state college tuition they've had to pay as a non-resident.
8th Jul '17 4:07:00 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SkinHorse'', [[http://skin-horse.com/comic/will-be-provided/ when trying to save a client from a BlackOps base.]] ''[[http://skin-horse.com/comic/dismissed-from/ Twice.]]''

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* In ''SkinHorse'', ''Webcomic/SkinHorse'', [[http://skin-horse.com/comic/will-be-provided/ when trying to save a client from a BlackOps base.]] ''[[http://skin-horse.com/comic/dismissed-from/ Twice.]]''
8th Jun '17 9:41:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''WhateleyUniverse'' has Jadis' lawyer pull an epic one, made even more epic by going on for a good fifteen minutes, most of which is brushed over, but described as an epic battle, allowing the user to imagine it. Jadis got off.

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* ''WhateleyUniverse'' ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' has Jadis' lawyer pull an epic one, made even more epic by going on for a good fifteen minutes, most of which is brushed over, but described as an epic battle, allowing the user to imagine it. Jadis got off.
30th May '17 6:36:37 PM nombretomado
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* In one episode of ''TheWestWing'', the President inadvertently accepts a gift that becomes politically troublesome. When he tries to return it, the local ObstructiveBureaucrat won't allow him, because it now belongs to the American people. Charlie tries several tacks to get it back, but the bureaucrat always finds a rule to block him. Finally, Charlie digs up a lawyer who's committed the entire US code to memory, and finds a clause specifying that the President ''can't'' accept a gift that would embarrass the United States.

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* In one episode of ''TheWestWing'', ''Series/TheWestWing'', the President inadvertently accepts a gift that becomes politically troublesome. When he tries to return it, the local ObstructiveBureaucrat won't allow him, because it now belongs to the American people. Charlie tries several tacks to get it back, but the bureaucrat always finds a rule to block him. Finally, Charlie digs up a lawyer who's committed the entire US code to memory, and finds a clause specifying that the President ''can't'' accept a gift that would embarrass the United States.
1st May '17 7:41:44 PM shawnmstewart
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*** In this particular case, William was taking advantage of an archaic rule himself. Thornton had already been tried and had been acquitted by a jury, normally a bar to further prosecution. William was taking advantage of a by-then nearly obsolete rule which allowed a private individual to bring a criminal case. Trial by combat wasn't generally available to criminal defendants, but it was still listed as a defense in this sort of private prosecution. Thornton's attorneys advised him to invoke the trial by combat rule to point out how irregular the second prosecution was in the first place (and of course to win, since Thornton totally outmatched William). Parliament got rid of the trial by combat following this whole debacle, [[ObviousRulePatch but they eliminated the private appeal as well.]]
7th Apr '17 2:20:10 AM AdamC
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* In ''Series/Daredevil2015'', Grotto, a Nelson & Murdock client, is killed by the Punisher. After Frank Castle is caught, Matt, Foggy and Karen visit him at the hospital with the intent of possibly representing him. District attorney Samantha Reyes attempts to send them packing by stating it's illegal for lawyers to defend a murderer that killed one of their clients, only for Matt to counter that if she's going to file the conflict of interest, Reyes will have to admit that she's responsible for jeopardizing Grotto's witness protection.

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* In ''Series/Daredevil2015'', Grotto, a Nelson & Murdock client, is killed being targeted by The Punisher. When Nelson and Murdock (after much convincing) get him to agree to come forward to the Punisher.police, the District Attorney Samantha Reyes intentionally uses him as bait to lure The Punisher out of hiding, leading to his death. After Frank Castle is caught, Matt, Foggy and Karen visit him at the hospital with the intent of possibly representing him. District attorney Samantha Reyes attempts to send them packing by stating it's illegal for lawyers to defend a murderer that killed one of their clients, only for Matt to counter that if she's going to file the conflict of interest, Reyes will have to admit that she's responsible for jeopardizing Grotto's witness protection.
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