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8th Oct '17 1:13:41 PM wingedcatgirl
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'''Man 1''': I don't have to. I just have to run faster than ''you''!

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'''Man 1''': I don't have to. I just have to run faster than ''you''!''you''!\\
5th Sep '17 9:05:24 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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-'''Joke'''



* The US Civil War showed shades of this. Originally the Union was predicting a curb stomp of the Confederacy, but losses in early battles at Bull Run/Manassas to the Confederates killed those hopes. At the start, the Confederacy had about as much manpower, machinery (though lacking a bit in artillery), and competent commanding officers as the Union did. But the Union had the larger and more industrial population, and was able to replace lost manpower and equipment much better than the Confederacy did. While Confederate campaigns would find successes here and there years into the war, Robert E Lee's army making it as far north as Gettysburg, PA, serious defeats would inevitably stop them, and they were unable to recover. While the Union, particularly Ulysses Grant's crazy ass, could fight in bloodbaths, overwhelm the Confederates, and bring in supplies and reinforcements behind them to press the advantage. Once the Union managed to secure the momentum against the Confederacy, there was no way for the Confederates to produce the fighting power to turn things around.

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* The US Civil War showed shades of this. Originally the Union was predicting a curb stomp of the Confederacy, but losses in early battles at Bull Run/Manassas to (Union called it by the Confederates killed those hopes. At the start, the first name, Confederacy by the second) nixed those hopes, resulting in this type of victory after a long and bloody slog. The South had about as much manpower, machinery (though lacking a bit in artillery), decent army and several of the U.S.'s more competent commanding officers as the Union did. But generals, but the Union had the a larger and more industrial population, population and was able to replace lost manpower more industrialized (much of the South's industry was based on commercial crops like cotton and equipment indigo). As the war raged on, battle casualties, Lincoln's naval blockade of Southern ports, and Sherman destroying a large amount of what heavy industry and food production the South had pretty much better than hamstrung the Confederacy did. While Confederate campaigns would find successes here and there years into Confederacy's ability to fight in the war, Robert E Lee's army making it as far north as Gettysburg, PA, serious defeats would inevitably stop them, and they were long term, while except for Gettysburg (which did not end well) the South was unable to recover. While effectively strike at the Union, particularly Ulysses Grant's crazy ass, could fight in bloodbaths, overwhelm the Confederates, and bring in supplies and reinforcements behind them Union's capability to press the advantage. fight. Once the Union managed to secure North finally found competent leadership for its forces, the momentum against the Confederacy, there war was no way for the Confederates to produce the fighting power to turn things around.basically already over.
25th Aug '17 12:59:26 PM CosmicFerret
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* Rather unique defense arrangement of 2e Alchemical {{Exalted}}: my power shield fails eventually but perfectly blocks, my last [=HPs=] don't go out Terminator-like (the appropriate charm has both a development and fanon name Terminator Charm)... all the while I keep coming at you. The catch? Your defenses cost essence, and mine didn't, so if your pool is out before my layers, guess what happens?

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* Rather unique defense arrangement of 2e Alchemical {{Exalted}}: TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}: my power shield fails eventually but perfectly blocks, my last [=HPs=] don't go out Terminator-like (the appropriate charm has both a development and fanon name Terminator Charm)... all the while I keep coming at you. The catch? Your defenses cost essence, and mine didn't, so if your pool is out before my layers, guess what happens?
20th Jun '17 10:45:42 PM SpitbreakFTW
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* Horde or wave defense modes in shooters or RPG games often function like the RTS examples above.

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* Horde or wave defense modes in shooters or RPG [=RPGs=] games often function like the RTS examples above.
20th Jun '17 10:44:24 PM SpitbreakFTW
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* Horde or wave defense modes in shooters or =RPGs= often function like the RTS examples above.

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* Horde or wave defense modes in shooters or =RPGs= RPG games often function like the RTS examples above.
20th Jun '17 1:16:27 AM SpitbreakFTW
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* Horde or wave defense modes in shooters or =RPGs= often function like the RTS examples above.
** The multiplayer modes in VideoGame/MassEffect3 and VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda are essentially this. A few objective oriented waves aside, the point is basically to stay alive and kill advancing forces until your evac shuttle arrives to extricate you.
** Beseiged and Campaign fights in VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI also functioned like this to a point. While it was possible to win the fights by kicking enough ass, there was a time limit imposed on the advancing beastmen before they retreated. In Beseiged, if they couldn't kill the remaining allied Generals and capture the Astral Candesence in an hour, they'd automatically retreat. Against an Level 8 beastmen army, the best most servers could muster was to kill the mooks, and occupy the Notorious Monsters/Beastmen Generals until time was up. Likewise, in defensive Campaign fights, it was possibly to drive off the attackers, but simply guarding the fortifications that were under attack long enough that the beastmen retreated was considered as victory as well.
** Call of Duty zombies modes avert this. Except on very few "winnable" maps, your defenses ''do'' need to hold out forever. They don't.
20th Jun '17 12:29:25 AM SpitbreakFTW
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* The US Civil War showed shades of this. Originally the Union was predicting a curb stomp of the Confederacy, but losses in early battles at Bull Run/Manassas to the Confederates killed those hopes. At the start, the Confederacy had about as much manpower, machinery (though lacking a bit in artillery), and competent commanding officers as the Union did. But the Union had the larger and more industrial population, and was able to replace lost manpower and equipment much better than the Confederacy did. While Confederate campaigns would find successes here and there years into the war, Robert E Lee's army making it as far north as Gettysburg, PA, serious defeats would inevitably stop them, and they were unable to recover. While the Union, particularly Ulysses Grant's crazy ass, could fight in bloodbaths, overwhelm the Confederates, and bring in supplies and reinforcements behind them to press the advantage. Once the Union managed to secure the momentum against the Confederacy, there was no way for the Confederates to produce the fighting power to turn things around.
10th Apr '17 6:53:46 PM Filosera
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*** Earth Dragon-Blooded also have a variant. "My smaller essence pool and relative squishiness is irrelevant when I'm able to shred even your best essence efficiency tactics to nothing and then force the issue by pestering you with small but persistent attacks that you nonetheless can't afford to take without burning essence at a horrendously unsustainable rate." More terrifying pre-errata, as the former component didn't have a keyword immunity that could prevent it, and the latter component was (and still is) typically the most convoluted immunity to acquire. The fact that they're generally the sturdiest of the Dragon-Blooded helps with this tactic as well.
10th Apr '17 6:38:41 PM Filosera
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** Fire Dragon-Blooded in the same edition also share this trait, and it's something that trips up a surprising number of players used to fighting other Celestial-tier Exalts. "Sure, my defenses might not be great, and my essence pool is smaller than yours, but if you mess up your timing ''once'', I will ''slaughter you''." The biggest timing mistake that can be made against them? Infinite Ability Mastery, which is ''standard operating procedure'' for most high-end Solar combatants.
9th Apr '17 5:29:22 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SaintSeiya'', the Perseus saint tells Shiryu he can't block his Medusa shield forever. Shiryu was unable to attack effectively at the moment, [[spoiler:so he decides to blind himself]].

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\n* In ''SaintSeiya'', ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', the Perseus saint tells Shiryu he can't block his Medusa shield forever. Shiryu was unable to attack effectively at the moment, [[spoiler:so he decides to blind himself]].
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