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12th Feb '17 6:49:17 PM ading
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' puts a RealityEnsues twist on the AlternateUniverse version by having all the musical numbers [[StylisticSuck be very obviously unrehearsed with terrible melodies and worse lyrics]]. The only exceptions are a handful of characters like Marceline for whom musical talent is part of their personalities.
2nd Feb '17 8:16:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''TotalDramaWorldTour'' is mostly Digetic (except for the part where they plan songs out in advance); but the visuals, such as a cut to Team Amazon playing in a real band or both teams dancing in jumpsuits, are Adaptions even when they're signing the song in real time.

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* ''TotalDramaWorldTour'' ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaWorldTour'' is mostly Digetic (except for the part where they plan songs out in advance); but the visuals, such as a cut to Team Amazon playing in a real band or both teams dancing in jumpsuits, are Adaptions even when they're signing the song in real time.
10th Jan '17 6:45:53 PM nombretomado
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* There's a music number about it in ''LoadingReadyRun'' appropriately named "[[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief Suspend Your Disbelief]]".[[http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/86/Suspend-your-Disbelief]]

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* There's a music number about it in ''LoadingReadyRun'' ''WebVideo/LoadingReadyRun'' appropriately named "[[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief Suspend Your Disbelief]]".[[http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/86/Suspend-your-Disbelief]]
4th Jan '17 7:12:54 PM nombretomado
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* One ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' skit, ZacEfron plays his signature character, the star of the ''HighSchoolMusical'' series, giving a speech to his former classmates after he'd spent a year at college. He crushes their illusions (and lack of MediumAwareness) by explaining that the music seems to stop after graduation, and spontaneous singing just gets you funny looks. (So it's the alternate universe interpretation combined with LikeRealityUnlessNoted.)

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* One ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' skit, ZacEfron plays his signature character, the star of the ''HighSchoolMusical'' ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' series, giving a speech to his former classmates after he'd spent a year at college. He crushes their illusions (and lack of MediumAwareness) by explaining that the music seems to stop after graduation, and spontaneous singing just gets you funny looks. (So it's the alternate universe interpretation combined with LikeRealityUnlessNoted.)



* Like ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons,'' ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' (especially TheMovie) falls into the AlternateUniverse Hypothesis, as the boys are quite aware that they're bursting into song and treat it like a perfectly normal thing to do. This made "Elementary School Musical" extremely odd, as Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny find themselves rejected by AllOfTheOtherReindeer because they won't sing: however, WordOfGod says that while they're comfortable with Broadway-style showtunes, they can't bring themselves to sing HighSchoolMusical-style songs [[TakeThat because they suck.]] There also seem to be further "rules" in place about when singing is and isn't acceptable, as the boys found it weird and didn't join in when the Canadians were all singing in "It's Christmas in Canada".

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* Like ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons,'' ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' (especially TheMovie) falls into the AlternateUniverse Hypothesis, as the boys are quite aware that they're bursting into song and treat it like a perfectly normal thing to do. This made "Elementary School Musical" extremely odd, as Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny find themselves rejected by AllOfTheOtherReindeer because they won't sing: however, WordOfGod says that while they're comfortable with Broadway-style showtunes, they can't bring themselves to sing HighSchoolMusical-style Film/HighSchoolMusical-style songs [[TakeThat because they suck.]] There also seem to be further "rules" in place about when singing is and isn't acceptable, as the boys found it weird and didn't join in when the Canadians were all singing in "It's Christmas in Canada".
25th Oct '16 9:17:41 AM MisterApple
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* There's a music number about it in ''LoadingReadyRun'' approrpiately named "[[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief Suspend Your Disbelief]]".[[http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/86/Suspend-your-Disbelief]]

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* There's a music number about it in ''LoadingReadyRun'' approrpiately appropriately named "[[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief Suspend Your Disbelief]]".[[http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/86/Suspend-your-Disbelief]]
23rd Oct '16 5:03:13 AM erforce
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* ''TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' takes place in a universe where every work of fiction is true (poems and musicals being no exception), so this naturally comes up at one point. In one section of "The New Travelers' Almanac" in the second volume, we learn that the events of Creator/LewisCarroll's poem ''Literature/TheHuntingOfTheSnark'' were just a hallucination that unfolded in the mind of one Dr. Eric Bellman, a psychiatrist who went insane after trying to lead an expedition into [[Literature/AliceInWonderland Wonderland]]. The dialogue in that poem is said to be in verse because Bellman's deteriorating mental state left him incapable of speaking in coherent prose.

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* ''TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' takes place in a universe where every work of fiction is true (poems and musicals being no exception), so this naturally comes up at one point. In one section of "The New Travelers' Almanac" in the second volume, we learn that the events of Creator/LewisCarroll's poem ''Literature/TheHuntingOfTheSnark'' were just a hallucination that unfolded in the mind of one Dr. Eric Bellman, a psychiatrist who went insane after trying to lead an expedition into [[Literature/AliceInWonderland Wonderland]]. The dialogue in that poem is said to be in verse because Bellman's deteriorating mental state left him incapable of speaking in coherent prose.



* The film version of ''{{Cabaret}}'' is diegetic. All the songs take place in a night club, with the single exception of "Tomorrow Belongs To Me", a patriotic song that a boy sings to a luncheon, with the diners joining in for the last chorus.

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* The film version of ''{{Cabaret}}'' ''Film/{{Cabaret}}'' is diegetic. All the songs take place in a night club, with the single exception of "Tomorrow Belongs To Me", a patriotic song that a boy sings to a luncheon, with the diners joining in for the last chorus.
20th Oct '16 6:46:55 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Film/SantaAndTheIceCreamBunny'' is most likely diegetic (though the producers [[TheyJustDidntCare likely didn't give it much thought]]). All the musical numbers except for one have no background accompaniment, and the singing sounds ''exactly'' the way it would in real life.

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* ''Film/SantaAndTheIceCreamBunny'' is most likely diegetic (though the producers [[TheyJustDidntCare likely didn't give it much thought]]).thought). All the musical numbers except for one have no background accompaniment, and the singing sounds ''exactly'' the way it would in real life.
11th Oct '16 8:42:32 AM dsneybuf
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* ''Theatre/TheWiz'' seems to follow the Alternate Universe hypothesis for most of the play's numbers. In the screen versions, "You Can't Win" (which didn't appear in the original Broadway production) provides a Digetic example, while songs that Dorothy sings when she has the set all to herself appear staged in a way that suggest that they occur All In Her Head.

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* ''Theatre/TheWiz'' seems to follow the Alternate Universe hypothesis for most of the play's numbers. In the screen versions, "You Can't Win" (which didn't appear in the original Broadway production) provides a Digetic example, while songs that Dorothy sings when she has the set all to herself appear staged in a way that suggest that they occur All In Her Head. [[Film/TheWiz The movie]] also uses "The Feeling That We Have" as a Digetic example.
16th Sep '16 8:56:57 PM thatother1dude
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** Probably helped by the fact that Steven is a ChildProdigy, able to play ukulele and compose songs as a little kid.
11th Sep '16 11:21:08 AM shirekh34ce
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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' might be Adaption for some of the songs: Anna clearly did spend many years asking Elsa to come out and play during "Do You Want to Build a Snowman" and did argue with her about returning to Arendelle and the eternal winter she'd caused in the reprise of "For the First Time in Forever", even if there was no actual occurrence of singing in either case. Anna's duet with Hans, "Love Is An Open Door", probably would be this too, since the song involved Hans charming Anna into falling for him and presumably in actuality was done without singing. "Let It Go" is probably All in Elsa's Head, since Elsa is all by herself at the time of the song, meaning that it's probably an inner monologue. The original "For the First Time in Forever" could be All In Their Heads as well: none of the servants take notice of Anna moving some of the salad plates, nor does anyone pay any attention to Anna singing as she travels down the railing of the bridge to the castle against the arriving guests. For Elsa's solo in that song, it could be argued that all of her lines, except for "Tell the guards to open up the gates!" are an internal monologue instead.

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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' might be Adaption for some of the songs: Anna clearly did spend many years asking Elsa to come out and play during "Do You Want to Build a Snowman" and did argue with her about returning to Arendelle and the eternal winter she'd caused in the reprise of "For the First Time in Forever", even if there was no actual occurrence of singing in either case. Anna's duet with Hans, "Love Is An Open Door", probably would be this too, since the song involved Hans charming Anna into falling for him and presumably in actuality was done without singing. "Let It Go" is probably All in Elsa's Head, since Elsa is all by herself at the time of the song, meaning that it's probably an inner monologue. The original "For the First Time in Forever" could be All In Their Heads as well: none of the servants take notice of Anna moving some of the salad plates, nor does anyone pay any attention to Anna singing as she travels down the railing of the bridge to the castle against the arriving guests. For Elsa's solo in that song, it could be argued that all of her lines, except for "Tell the guards to open up the gates!" are an internal monologue instead. "Fixer Upper" also counts, as the trolls clearly prepared Anna and Kristoff for a wedding.
**"Frozen Heart" and "Reindeer(s) Are Better Than People" are the only songs in the film that are diegetic; the former could be a song that the ice harvesters frequently sing while working while the latter serves as Kristoff's lullaby to Sven.
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