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5th Jun '17 5:34:45 PM JoeMerl
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-->'''Fan:''' [[LampshadeHanging And how is it possible that you guys can sing the exact same song, at the exact same time, in perfect unison without any kind of rehearsal or script involved...and ''WHEN YOU ARE IN DIFFERENT PLACES AS WELL?'' IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!]]

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-->'''Fan:''' [[LampshadeHanging And how is it possible possible]] that you guys can sing the exact same song, at the exact same time, in perfect unison without any kind of rehearsal or script involved...and ''WHEN ''[[DistantDuet WHEN YOU ARE IN DIFFERENT PLACES AS WELL?'' WELL]]?'' IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!]]IMPOSSIBLE!



** One could argue that it's a weird mixture of Digetic and Alternate Universe: this is not a world where breaking into song is normal, and the characters explicitly do not prepare in advance or know what their songs will be about. Nevertheless when Chris ordains it, music seems to come out of nowhere and the characters are able to [[MusicalisInterruptus spontaneously sing]] [[SpontaneousChoreography and dance]] with only an occasional broken rhyme or confused look.

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** One could argue that it's a weird mixture of Digetic and Alternate Universe: this is not a world where breaking into song is normal, and the characters explicitly do not prepare in advance or know what their songs will be about. Nevertheless [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem when Chris ordains it, it]], music seems to come comes out of nowhere and the characters are able to [[MusicalisInterruptus spontaneously sing]] [[SpontaneousChoreography and dance]] with only an occasional broken rhyme or confused look.
5th Jun '17 5:32:02 PM JoeMerl
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* In ''Fanfic/CandyForYourThoughts,'' a fanfic of ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaWorldTour'' (see below), a fan actually contacts the cast during the Aftermath episode and accuses the whole show of being scripted.
-->'''Fan:''' [[LampshadeHanging And how is it possible that you guys can sing the exact same song, at the exact same time, in perfect unison without any kind of rehearsal or script involved...and ''WHEN YOU ARE IN DIFFERENT PLACES AS WELL?'' IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!]]
-->'''Geoff:''' [[HandWave ...'Cause the music's from the heart, bro]]...[[ThePowerOfRock it's from the heart]].
-->'''Fan:''' What the hell kind of answer is that? [[CurseCutShort This show is so fu...]]
* In ''Fanfic/ChangeOfPlans,'' another ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaWorldTour'' fanfic, the parts that seem Adaptational are explained as either being [=CGI=] or [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem Chris]] forcing the characters to re-sing parts of the song in different settings.
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14th May '17 3:33:17 PM thatother1dude
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* Songs from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' are generally Diegetic, with characters listening to each other sing or the behavior being otherwise acknowledged in-universe. The few exceptions are usually ambiguously All In Their Head, such as [[DiegeticSwitch diegetic switches]] halfway through "Strong in the Real Way" and "Stronger Than You", and "Full Disclosure" which is sung while Steven is by himself. "Giant Woman" is a notable example in that the song is sung over a montage, yet Opal later references the song to prove to Steven that she shares the memories of [[spoiler: Amethyst and Pearl]].

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* Songs from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' are generally Diegetic, with characters listening to each other sing or the behavior being otherwise acknowledged in-universe. The few exceptions are usually ambiguously All In Their Head, such as [[DiegeticSwitch diegetic switches]] halfway through "Strong in the Real Way" and "Stronger Than You", and "Full Disclosure" which is sung while Steven is by himself. "Giant Woman" is a notable example in that the song is sung over a montage, yet Opal later references the song to prove to Steven that she shares the memories of [[spoiler: Amethyst and Pearl]].Pearl. There's a joke where Pearl is said to be prone to "random outbursts of singing, crying, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs singing while crying]]..."
13th May '17 12:48:37 AM RacattackForce
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' seems to be a mixture of Diegetic and Alternative Universe. Any songs done by [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Pinkie Pie]] are usually the former, while most other solo songs and all whole cast numbers are the latter.
** Pinkie Pie's solo songs are all Diegetic (as other characters [[LampshadeHanging point out]] her tendency to burst into song, and she's shown preparing/rehearsing on several occasions), while most of the other songs generally follow the Alternate Universe or Adaptational concepts. "Find a Pet" was a completely unrehearsed duet, but was explicitly acknowledged to have been sung in-universe when Fluttershy asked Rainbow Dash "should we sing about it again?", and multiple characters have made in-universe shout-outs to the ensemble song "Winter Wrap Up", implying that the singing actually happened and is a normal thing for this universe. "This Day Aria", meanwhile, is a DistantDuet, which seems impossible to explain without resorting to the Adaptational view (not to mention that fake Cadance's part is her boasting about her evil plans out loud in front of everypony she fooled), and many songs (such as "True True Friend") flow across several scenes which could not possibly be taking place at the speed of the song. In the case of "Generosity", Rainbow Dash points out the weirdness of bursting into song randomly, implying it's an unusual thing in this universe, which, considering the earlier examples, makes for a bona fide MindScrew...which is made even MORE confusing when ''Rainbow herself'' seems to reference "The Failure Song" in ''Testing Testing 1, 2, 3''.
** Rarity also got a song in "Suited For Success" called "Art Of The Dress", though that could be considered her just singing while she works.
*** The reprise of "Art of the Dress" is at least partially in Rarity's head, since it contains a part where the others complain about their ''own'' behavior towards her: "All we ever want is indecision/All we ever like is what we know..."

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' seems to be a mixture makes use of '''all four variations''', with the most common being Diegetic and Alternative Universe. Any This is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] somewhat regularly, with characters calling back to previous songs or noting how odd it is that that they burst into song so often. A general rule of thumb is any songs done by [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Pinkie Pie]] are usually the former, former (she's shown preparing/rehearsing on several occasions, and one episode even has "sing random song" as part of a mental checklist), while most other solo songs and all whole cast numbers are the latter.
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latter. Some fans believe that every song in the series could be Diagetic though, with ponies simply having an innate ability to sing songs are all Diegetic (as other characters [[LampshadeHanging point out]] her tendency to burst into song, together without preparation and she's shown preparing/rehearsing on several occasions), while most of the other songs generally follow the Alternate Universe or Adaptational concepts. "Find a Pet" was a completely unrehearsed duet, but was explicitly acknowledged to have been sung in-universe when Fluttershy asked Rainbow Dash "should we sing about it again?", and multiple characters have made in-universe shout-outs to the ensemble song "Winter Wrap Up", implying that the singing actually happened and is a normal thing for this universe. rehearsal.
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"This Day Aria", meanwhile, is a DistantDuet, which seems impossible to explain without resorting to the Adaptational view (not to mention that fake Cadance's part is her boasting about her evil plans out loud in front of everypony she fooled), view, and many songs (such as "True True Friend") flow across several scenes which could not possibly be taking place at the speed of the song. In the case of "Generosity", Rainbow Dash points out the weirdness of bursting into song randomly, implying it's an unusual thing in this universe, which, considering the earlier examples, makes for a bona fide MindScrew...which is made even MORE confusing when ''Rainbow herself'' seems to reference "The Failure Song" in ''Testing Testing 1, 2, 3''.
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** Rarity also got a song in "Suited For Success" called "Art Of The Dress", though that could be considered her just singing while she works.
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works. The reprise of "Art of the Dress" is at least partially in Rarity's head, since it contains a part where the others complain about their ''own'' behavior towards her: "All we ever want is indecision/All we ever like is what we know..."



** Pinkie's IAmSong from "A Friend in Deed" seems to be the Alternate Universe option, but the rest of the songs seem to come from her RealityWarper ability to just spontaneously create random music. This is actually lampshaded when she includes "sing random song out of nowhere" on her mental checklist of steps to making friends with somepony.
** From the season 2 Finale, "A Canterlot Wedding", you have the "BBBFF Song" which is likely an Alternate Universe example, "This Day Aria" which is also Alternate Universe with a pinch of All In Their Head as detailed above, and a very much Diegetic "Love Is In Bloom".
** Note that given the setting, which categories each song belongs to depends on personal interpretation; there are many that believe that nearly every song in the series is Diagetic, with ponies simply having an innate ability to sing songs together without preparation and rehearsal.
3rd May '17 12:16:55 AM jtierney50
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** The Play-Within-A-Play ''The Drowsy Chaperone'' is mostly Alternate Universe, as almost every number is followed by a comment on it:

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** The Play-Within-A-Play ShowWithinAShow ''The Drowsy Chaperone'' is mostly Alternate Universe, as almost every number is followed by a comment on it:



*** Janet questions why they're so happily dancing to the upbeat-yet-life-ruining "Toledo Surprise", which begins as Feldzieg teaches the Gangsters how to dance.

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*** Janet questions why they're so happily dancing to the upbeat-yet-life-ruining "Toledo Surprise", which and Robert responds that the tune is [[EarWorm too infectious]] to resist. The song itself begins as Feldzieg teaches the Gangsters how to dance.
3rd May '17 12:14:59 AM jtierney50
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* ''Theatre/TheDrowsyChaperone'' plays with this.
** The Play-Within-A-Play ''The Drowsy Chaperone'' is mostly Alternate Universe, as almost every number is followed by a comment on it:
*** George says it's too dangerous for Robert to be tap dancing after the tap number "Cold Feet".
*** Kitty says she's surprised Janet didn't do an encore after "Show-Off", which is immediately followed by "Show Off - Reprise".
*** Janet and the Chaperone seem to be impatiently waiting for the end of "As We Stumble Along" and "I Am Adoplho", respectively. The former just wants some real advice instead of having to listen to the Chaperone sing about her alcoholism, and the latter just wants to [[ArentYouGoingToRavishMe have sex with Adolpho]] instead of being subjected to his IAmGreatSong.
*** Janet questions why they're so happily dancing to the upbeat-yet-life-ruining "Toledo Surprise", which begins as Feldzieg teaches the Gangsters how to dance.
*** Underling fetches himself a glass of "[[BrickJoke ice water]]" after the softshoe portion of "Love is Always Lovely in the End".
** However, the number "Bride's Lament" is entirely within Janet's head, as the Man in the Chair even points out when she begins to go into "a complete mental breakdown" when the song ramps up [[ItMakesSenseInContext and the monkeys appear]].
** Furthermore, the entire ''show'', as we see it, is in the Man in the Chair's head: he's listening to the cast album of the show ''The Drowsy Chaperone'', and imagining it as it happens. At times he even joins in in certain numbers and pauses, skips, or rewinds certain scenes, none of which the "characters" notice. When his Super shows up, he doesn't seem to notice the plane onstage.
** The finale, "As We Stumble Along (Reprise)", is entirely in the Man in the Chair's head and features a strange portmanteau of the characters and their actors - Tottendale, for example, who was played in-universe by a woman named Ukulele Lil, begins the song by playing the ukulele to accompany the Man in the Chair's singing.
2nd Apr '17 9:59:08 AM Julia1984
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'' special ''WesternAnimation/SchoolsOutTheMusical'', Wanda's and Cosmo's "Floating With You" is definitely diegetic, since they used it in-universe to [[WeNeedADistraction distract Jorgen]]. The rest all seem to fit the Adaptation Hypothesis, with each number serving as a condensed way of portraying events that happened and decisions characters made.
6th Mar '17 9:02:18 AM Fwahm
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** Note that given the setting, which categories each song belongs to will depend on the viewer; there are many that believe that nearly every song in the series is Diagetic, with ponies simply having an innate ability to sing songs together without preparation and rehearsal.

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** Note that given the setting, which categories each song belongs to will depend depends on the viewer; personal interpretation; there are many that believe that nearly every song in the series is Diagetic, with ponies simply having an innate ability to sing songs together without preparation and rehearsal.
6th Mar '17 9:01:46 AM Fwahm
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** Note that which categories each song belongs to will depend on the viewer; there are many that believe that nearly every song in the series is Diagetic, with ponies simply having the ability to sing songs together without preparation and rehearsal.

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** Note that given the setting, which categories each song belongs to will depend on the viewer; there are many that believe that nearly every song in the series is Diagetic, with ponies simply having the an innate ability to sing songs together without preparation and rehearsal.
6th Mar '17 8:59:16 AM Fwahm
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** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames'' is a mixture; Human Twilight's IWantSong and Cinch's villain song are the Alternate Universe type; "ACADECA" is generally All In Their Head, with a hint of Alternate Universe and Adaption.

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** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames'' is a mixture; Human Twilight's IWantSong and Cinch's villain song are the Alternate Universe Diagetic type; "ACADECA" is generally All In Their Head, with a hint of Alternate Universe and Adaption.



* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is a mixture of Diegetic and Alternative Universe. Any songs done by [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Pinkie Pie]] are usually the former, while most other solo songs and all whole cast numbers are the latter.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is seems to be a mixture of Diegetic and Alternative Universe. Any songs done by [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Pinkie Pie]] are usually the former, while most other solo songs and all whole cast numbers are the latter.


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** Note that which categories each song belongs to will depend on the viewer; there are many that believe that nearly every song in the series is Diagetic, with ponies simply having the ability to sing songs together without preparation and rehearsal.
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