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12th Mar '18 2:02:32 PM TrendingToon1
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* ''WesternAnimation'':''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'':



** ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames Friendship Games]]'' is a mixture; Human Twilight's IWantSong and Cinch's villain song are the Diagetic type; "ACADECA" is mostly All In Their Head, with a hint of Alternate Universe and Adaption.

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** ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames Friendship Games]]'' is a mixture; Human Twilight's IWantSong and Cinch's villain song are the Diagetic Alternate Universe type; "ACADECA" is mostly All In Their Head, with a hint of Alternate Universe and Adaption.Adaptation.
26th Feb '18 9:06:22 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'':
** [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls The first film]] is almost completely All In Their Head, with almost every song being done during a montage, reflecting the characters inner thoughts. The only song that averts this is the cafeteria song, which is diegetic, with the characters having rehearsed prior to the scene.

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* ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'':
''WesternAnimation'':
** [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls2013 The first film]] is almost completely All In Their Head, with almost every song being done during a montage, reflecting the characters inner thoughts. The only song that averts this is the cafeteria song, which is diegetic, with the characters having rehearsed prior to the scene.



** The ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' shorts and specials also make plenty use of all four types, with the most common also being Diegetic and Alternative Universe. In particular, ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsForgottenFriendship Forgotten Friendship]]'' uses Alternate World for its two songs, with said songs immediately being acknowledged by other characters both while and after they were sung.

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** The ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' shorts and specials also make plenty use of all four types, with the most common also being Diegetic and Alternative Universe. In particular, ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsForgottenFriendship Forgotten Friendship]]'' uses Alternate World for its two songs, with said songs immediately being acknowledged by other characters both while and after they were sung.
26th Feb '18 2:02:57 PM RacattackForce
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* For ''My Little Pony Equestria Girls'':
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' is almost completely All In Their Head - almost all the songs are sung offscreen during a montage, given to the thought the characters are singing in their head. The only song that averts this is the cafeteria song, which is somewhat diegetic.
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks'' is a diegetic type work -- all of the songs (about 8 total, excluding the opening theme) are shown to be performed by the characters within the context of the film's plot, though several cut away to various scenes, or during a song emphasizing the BattleOfTheBands theme, to ''literal'' battling between bands on the high points of the song.
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames'' is a mixture; Human Twilight's IWantSong and Cinch's villain song are the Diagetic type; "ACADECA" is generally All In Their Head, with a hint of Alternate Universe and Adaption.

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* For ''My Little Pony Equestria Girls'':
''Franchise/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'':
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls The first film]] is almost completely All In Their Head - Head, with almost all the songs are sung offscreen every song being done during a montage, given to the thought reflecting the characters are singing in their head. inner thoughts. The only song that averts this is the cafeteria song, which is somewhat diegetic.
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks'' is a diegetic type work -- all of
diegetic, with the songs (about 8 total, excluding characters having rehearsed prior to the scene.
** ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'' is completely diegetic, with everything except
the opening theme) are shown to be theme being performed by the characters within the context of the film's plot, though several cut away to various scenes, or during a song emphasizing the BattleOfTheBands theme, to ''literal'' battling between bands on the high points of the song.
** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames'' ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames Friendship Games]]'' is a mixture; Human Twilight's IWantSong and Cinch's villain song are the Diagetic type; "ACADECA" is generally mostly All In Their Head, with a hint of Alternate Universe and Adaption.



** The ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' shorts and specials also make plenty use of all four types, with the most common also being Diegetic and Alternative Universe. In particular, ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsForgottenFriendship Forgotten Friendship]]'' uses Alternate World for its two songs, with said songs immediately being acknowledged by other characters both while and after they were sung.
-->'''Sunset Shimmer''': I'm sorry. I didn't see you come in.\\
'''Wallflower Blush''': I've been trying to get your attention for, like, half the song.



* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is always AlternateUniverse, with characters listening to each other sing or the behavior being otherwise acknowledged in-universe. While there are a few exceptions, with some being ambiguous All In Their Head ("Strong in the Real Way", "Stronger Than You", "Full Disclosure") or Adaptation ("Giant Woman", "Both of You"), all of these songs still have a {{diegetic switch}} partway through. All these musical numbers have been [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] on two separate occasions, with Lars complaining that Steven was just singing while they were doing all the actual work in one episode, and Peridot shares a data log where she noted that Pearl is prone to "random outbursts of singing, crying, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs singing while crying]]..." in another.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is always AlternateUniverse, with characters listening to each other sing or the behavior being otherwise acknowledged in-universe. While there are a few exceptions, with some being ambiguous All In Their Head ("Strong in the Real Way", "Stronger Than You", "Full Disclosure") or Adaptation ("Giant Woman", "Both of You"), all of these songs still have a {{diegetic switch}} partway through. All these musical numbers have been [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] on at least two separate occasions, with Lars complaining that Steven was just singing while they were doing all the actual work in one episode, and Peridot shares sharing a data log where she noted notes that Pearl is prone to "random outbursts of singing, crying, [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs singing while crying]]..." in another.



* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' puts a RealityEnsues twist on the AlternateUniverse version by having many musical numbers [[StylisticSuck be very obviously unrehearsed with terrible melodies and worse lyrics]]. The only exceptions are a handful of characters like Marceline for whom musical talent is part of their personalities.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' puts occasionally uses Diegetic, while also putting a RealityEnsues twist on the AlternateUniverse version by having many musical numbers [[StylisticSuck be very obviously unrehearsed joke songs]] with terrible melodies and worse lyrics]]. The only exceptions are a handful of or lyrics if not sung by characters like Marceline for whom musical talent is part of their personalities.Marceline, who are explicitly stated to be musically inclined in general.
24th Feb '18 2:30:20 AM DragonRanger
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** ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' acts as an AlternateUniverse, but [[LampshadeHanging calls attention to this nature]]. "How Far I'll Go" passes without comment, but Maui continues humming "You're Welcome" to himself even after the song is over, and "Shiny" is explicitly done "in song form" with Tamatoa asking the heroes if they liked it afterward. Maui also comments at one point that if Moana breaks into song, he's going to throw up. "We Know The Way", on the other hand, may be All in Moana's Head as she's given a spirit vision of her ancestors; but then again, it's a Musical Universe so her ancestors might well have actually sung that. Likewise, "Where You Are" is a montage song, making this song the only one that fits the Adaptation format.

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** ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' acts as an AlternateUniverse, a Musical Universe, but [[LampshadeHanging calls attention to this nature]]. "How Far I'll Go" passes without comment, but Maui continues humming "You're Welcome" to himself even after the song is over, over (and later brings back the tune for a MadnessMantra of sorts), and "Shiny" is explicitly done "in song form" with Tamatoa asking the heroes if they liked it afterward. Maui also comments at one point that if Moana breaks into song, he's going to throw up. "We Know The Way", on the other hand, may could be All in Moana's Head as she's given a spirit vision of her ancestors; but then again, it's a Musical Universe so her ancestors might well have actually sung that. Likewise, "How Far I'll Go" may or may not be an Adaptation of Moana's internal struggle, since she only sings to herself and nobody else takes notice. The only one that ''can't'' be justified by the Musical Universe is "Where You Are" is a montage song, making this song the only one that fits the Adaptation format.Are", as it's an AgeProgressionSong and therefore an Adaptation.



* ''Series/TheFlash2014''/''Series/Supergirl2015'' MusicalEpisode "Duet" is a Musical Universe via outside influence, as the heroes are trapped in a musical dream world. But since the dream is set in a 40s/50s night club, this allows some songs to be Diagetic as well. The final song, "Running Back to You", is %100 Diagetic, as it takes place after escaping the dream world and Barry is inspired by the ordeal to prep a song to sing to Iris.

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* ''Series/TheFlash2014''/''Series/Supergirl2015'' MusicalEpisode "Duet" is a Musical Universe via outside influence, as the heroes are trapped in a musical dream world. But since the dream is set in a 40s/50s night club, this allows some songs to be Diagetic as well. The final song, "Running Back to You", is %100 100% Diagetic, as it takes place after escaping the dream world and Barry is inspired by the ordeal experience to prep a song to sing to Iris.
14th Feb '18 5:36:06 PM lakingsif
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* ''Theatre/{{Nine}}'' is done by the same director, and does the same thing. Since it's an adaptation of ''8 1/2'', this works pretty well. The protagonist is having a mid-life crisis and is a creative film director.

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* ''Theatre/{{Nine}}'' ''Theatre/NineMusical'' is done by the same director, and does the same thing. Since it's an adaptation of ''8 1/2'', this works pretty well. The protagonist is having a mid-life crisis and is a creative film director.
4th Jan '18 4:30:57 PM Snicka
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* In ''Film/JungleBook2016'', "Bare Necessities" is clearly Diegetic, with Baloo and Mowgli explicitly singing it (Baloo refers to it as "a song about the good life"). "I Wanna Be Like You", on the other hand, is most likely Adaptation: Louie was just talking to Mowgli about telling him the secret of fire rather than singing about it.

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* In ''Film/JungleBook2016'', ''Film/TheJungleBook2016'', "Bare Necessities" is clearly Diegetic, with Baloo and Mowgli explicitly singing it (Baloo refers to it as "a song about the good life"). "I Wanna Be Like You", on the other hand, is most likely Adaptation: Louie was just talking to Mowgli about telling him the secret of fire rather than singing about it.
4th Jan '18 4:30:20 PM Snicka
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* In ''Film/JungleBook2016'', "Bare Necessities" is clearly Diegetic, with Baloo and Mowgli explicitly singing it (Baloo refers to it as "a song about the good life"). "I Wanna Be Like You", on the other hand, is most likely Adaptation: Louie was just talking to Mowgli about telling him the secret of fire rather than singing about it.
29th Dec '17 1:35:20 AM WingedCat
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* '''All-Maestro Cast''': If it is explicitly shown or implied (other than by the mere fact of their singing) that all of the characters in a musical who sing have great (by RealLife's standards) skill at improvised music, it is at least plausible that these characters really are capable of coming up with tunes and rhymes on the fly, and do so during the musical. This is easier to justify with a smaller cast, but even so, this is rare. This case differs from the Diegetic Hypothesis in that the songs are improvised in-universe.

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* '''All-Maestro Cast''': If it is explicitly shown or implied (other than by the mere fact of their singing) that all of the characters in a musical who sing have great (by RealLife's standards) skill at improvised music, it is at least plausible that these characters really are capable of coming up with tunes and rhymes on the fly, and do so during the musical. This is easier to justify with a smaller cast, but even so, cast. Given the needed plot support, this case is rare. This case differs from the Diegetic Hypothesis in that the songs are improvised in-universe.
29th Dec '17 1:30:47 AM WingedCat
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* '''All-Maestro Cast''': If it is explicitly shown or implied (other than by the mere fact of their singing) that all of the characters in a musical who sing have great (by RealLife's standards) skill at improvised music, it is at least plausible that these characters really are capable of coming up with tunes and rhymes on the fly, and do so during the musical. This is easier to justify with a smaller cast, but even so, this is rare. This case differs from the Diegetic Hypothesis in that the songs are improvised in-universe.
19th Dec '17 10:20:43 AM JoeMerl
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* ''WesternAnimation/PepperAnn'' had a MusicalEpisode where the title character acknowledged the singing as weird and eventually grew to hate it. In this case it turned out to be AllJustADream.
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