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17th Mar '17 6:59:01 PM nombretomado
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* Kinda averted in {{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}} and the {{Nasuverse}}. Arc and Saber are stated to be as weak as they appear if not for their high levels of supernatural magical energies. Then again, it does fit this trope in that muscles are meaningless compared to magical energies and just about everyone that matters uses magical energies.

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* Kinda averted in {{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}} and the {{Nasuverse}}.{{Franchise/Nasuverse}}. Arc and Saber are stated to be as weak as they appear if not for their high levels of supernatural magical energies. Then again, it does fit this trope in that muscles are meaningless compared to magical energies and just about everyone that matters uses magical energies.
16th Feb '17 1:38:35 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Loras is considered one of the best knights in the Seven Kingdoms, yet his shirtless scene shows that he's slender and not particularly muscular. Since this reputation was earned in peace time, it likely stems mostly from his prowess at tourney jousting.
9th Feb '17 4:14:47 PM JoeMerl
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** This applies to Kryptonian children, too--see, for example, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/superman/images/8/8a/Christopher_Kent.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090608181303 Superman's foster-son Chris]].
15th Jan '17 3:23:25 PM DustSnitch
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The PintsizedPowerhouse is able to physically outperform heavily-muscled guys ten times his size, and is more than capable of sending them flying with a single punch, physics be damned. A thin, wiry character may have no difficulty lifting or punching way above his weight class. This is generally done to [[TheWorfEffect show]] just how BadAss he or she really is. Usually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by SuperStrength, and often more dubiously by a CharlesAtlasSuperpower. Alternatively, TheBigGuy may not be very strong at all, but usually his strength is simply dwarfed in comparison. TheBigGuy being physically dominated is usually a GiantMook or similarly unimportant character. Generally, when it comes to important [[TheBigGuy Big Guys]], MusclesAreMeaningful.

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The PintsizedPowerhouse is able to physically outperform heavily-muscled guys ten times his size, and is more than capable of sending them flying with a single punch, physics be damned. A thin, wiry character may have no difficulty lifting or punching way above his weight class. This is generally done to [[TheWorfEffect show]] just how BadAss badass he or she really is. Usually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by SuperStrength, and often more dubiously by a CharlesAtlasSuperpower. Alternatively, TheBigGuy may not be very strong at all, but usually his strength is simply dwarfed in comparison. TheBigGuy being physically dominated is usually a GiantMook or similarly unimportant character. Generally, when it comes to important [[TheBigGuy Big Guys]], MusclesAreMeaningful.
17th Dec '16 9:52:08 PM caivu
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* Violet Paige, the title character of ''ComicBook/MotherPanic'', possesses SuperStrength but has no significant muscle tone.
17th Dec '16 4:26:18 PM Monsund
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* Little Mac from ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' isn't even five feet tall and weighs a little over a hundred pounds, but he can defeat a variety of legendary heavyweight boxers such as Mike Tyson himself. This isn't due to his physical prowess but rather due to exploiting their stupidity and fighting patterns.

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* Little Mac from ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' isn't even five feet tall and weighs a little over a hundred pounds, but he can defeat a variety of legendary heavyweight boxers such as Mike Tyson himself. This isn't PlayedWith in that Little Mac has significantly less attack power, and stamina then the [[BossGame other opponents]], but wins due to his physical prowess but rather due to the player exploiting their stupidity the bosses mistakes, and fighting patterns.
7th Dec '16 2:19:20 PM Morgenthaler
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* First played straight in ''Literature/{{Graceling}}'', as Katsa's extreme talent, flexibility, and speed make her too BadAss for strength to matter much, but subverted once she meets another Graced fighter ([[spoiler:though of course Po's Grace is a bit more complex than that]]) and realizes her size and relative weakness do disadvantage her.

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* First played straight in ''Literature/{{Graceling}}'', as Katsa's extreme talent, flexibility, and speed make her too BadAss badass for strength to matter much, but subverted once she meets another Graced fighter ([[spoiler:though of course Po's Grace is a bit more complex than that]]) and realizes her size and relative weakness do disadvantage her.
4th Dec '16 1:33:42 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', size and muscle mass is hardly ever an indicator of strength, barring a few exceptions like [[{{Badass}} Gildarts]]. The incredibly thin Sol was able to overpower [[HeroicBuild Elfman]] with ease, and so could [[MsFanservice Mirajane]].

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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', size and muscle mass is hardly ever an indicator of strength, barring a few exceptions like [[{{Badass}} Gildarts]].Gildarts. The incredibly thin Sol was able to overpower [[HeroicBuild Elfman]] with ease, and so could [[MsFanservice Mirajane]].
19th Nov '16 1:18:37 PM Tron80
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** In ''Comicbook/SupergirlBeingSuper'' Kara's friend Jen is taller and brawnier. However Kara can bench press vehicles.
18th Nov '16 3:26:53 AM Tron80
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** Batman himself is experienced and Genre Savvy enough to be fully aware of this, even remarking on it when the situation calls for it. Once, when he hiding in the shadows and preparing to take down a drug dealer, he glanced at the man's two bodyguards and immediately dismissed them. ''Big guys. They've packed on a lot of muscle. Absolutely meaningless unless they've got fighting skills to go with it. Judging by the fact that they have callouses on their palms, from lifting weights, and none on their knuckles from practicing strikes, I don't think these two have spent any time learning how to throw a punch.''

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** Batman himself is experienced and Genre Savvy enough to be fully aware of this, even remarking on it when the situation calls for it. Once, when he hiding in the shadows and preparing to take down a drug dealer, he glanced at the man's two bodyguards and immediately dismissed them. ''Big them.
--->'''Batman:''' Big
guys. They've packed on a lot of muscle. Absolutely meaningless unless they've got fighting skills to go with it. Judging by the fact that they have callouses on their palms, from lifting weights, and none on their knuckles from practicing strikes, I don't think these two have spent any time learning how to throw a punch.''



** So common in fact that when Kara Zor-El -Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}- returned in 2004, writers were easily able to tease the fan base with the idea that the slender 16 year old girl might be stronger than her full grown powerfully built cousin Superman. Turns out, he just holds himself back [[WorldofCardboardSpeech due to living his whole life in a world made of cardboard]]. Though one of the teases was correct. She can fly faster owing to her smaller size.

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** So common in fact that when Kara Zor-El -Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}- ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 2005}} returned in 2004, 2004]]'', writers were easily able to tease the fan base with the idea that the slender 16 year old girl might be stronger than her full grown powerfully built cousin Superman. Turns out, he just holds himself back [[WorldofCardboardSpeech due to living his whole life in a world made of cardboard]]. Though one of the teases was correct. She can fly faster owing to her smaller size.size.
** In ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1972}} her first solo book]]'' Kara met a bunch of guys. All of them were buff and larger than her. Neither of them could move planets (which she did back in the Bronze Age).
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