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15th Jan '17 3:23:25 PM DustSnitch
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The PintsizedPowerhouse is able to physically outperform heavily-muscled guys ten times his size, and is more than capable of sending them flying with a single punch, physics be damned. A thin, wiry character may have no difficulty lifting or punching way above his weight class. This is generally done to [[TheWorfEffect show]] just how BadAss he or she really is. Usually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by SuperStrength, and often more dubiously by a CharlesAtlasSuperpower. Alternatively, TheBigGuy may not be very strong at all, but usually his strength is simply dwarfed in comparison. TheBigGuy being physically dominated is usually a GiantMook or similarly unimportant character. Generally, when it comes to important [[TheBigGuy Big Guys]], MusclesAreMeaningful.

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The PintsizedPowerhouse is able to physically outperform heavily-muscled guys ten times his size, and is more than capable of sending them flying with a single punch, physics be damned. A thin, wiry character may have no difficulty lifting or punching way above his weight class. This is generally done to [[TheWorfEffect show]] just how BadAss badass he or she really is. Usually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by SuperStrength, and often more dubiously by a CharlesAtlasSuperpower. Alternatively, TheBigGuy may not be very strong at all, but usually his strength is simply dwarfed in comparison. TheBigGuy being physically dominated is usually a GiantMook or similarly unimportant character. Generally, when it comes to important [[TheBigGuy Big Guys]], MusclesAreMeaningful.
17th Dec '16 9:52:08 PM caivu
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* Violet Paige, the title character of ''ComicBook/MotherPanic'', possesses SuperStrength but has no significant muscle tone.
17th Dec '16 4:26:18 PM Monsund
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* Little Mac from ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' isn't even five feet tall and weighs a little over a hundred pounds, but he can defeat a variety of legendary heavyweight boxers such as Mike Tyson himself. This isn't due to his physical prowess but rather due to exploiting their stupidity and fighting patterns.

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* Little Mac from ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' isn't even five feet tall and weighs a little over a hundred pounds, but he can defeat a variety of legendary heavyweight boxers such as Mike Tyson himself. This isn't PlayedWith in that Little Mac has significantly less attack power, and stamina then the [[BossGame other opponents]], but wins due to his physical prowess but rather due to the player exploiting their stupidity the bosses mistakes, and fighting patterns.
7th Dec '16 2:19:20 PM Morgenthaler
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* First played straight in ''Literature/{{Graceling}}'', as Katsa's extreme talent, flexibility, and speed make her too BadAss for strength to matter much, but subverted once she meets another Graced fighter ([[spoiler:though of course Po's Grace is a bit more complex than that]]) and realizes her size and relative weakness do disadvantage her.

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* First played straight in ''Literature/{{Graceling}}'', as Katsa's extreme talent, flexibility, and speed make her too BadAss badass for strength to matter much, but subverted once she meets another Graced fighter ([[spoiler:though of course Po's Grace is a bit more complex than that]]) and realizes her size and relative weakness do disadvantage her.
4th Dec '16 1:33:42 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', size and muscle mass is hardly ever an indicator of strength, barring a few exceptions like [[{{Badass}} Gildarts]]. The incredibly thin Sol was able to overpower [[HeroicBuild Elfman]] with ease, and so could [[MsFanservice Mirajane]].

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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', size and muscle mass is hardly ever an indicator of strength, barring a few exceptions like [[{{Badass}} Gildarts]].Gildarts. The incredibly thin Sol was able to overpower [[HeroicBuild Elfman]] with ease, and so could [[MsFanservice Mirajane]].
19th Nov '16 1:18:37 PM Tron80
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** In ''Comicbook/SupergirlBeingSuper'' Kara's friend Jen is taller and brawnier. However Kara can bench press vehicles.
18th Nov '16 3:26:53 AM Tron80
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** Batman himself is experienced and Genre Savvy enough to be fully aware of this, even remarking on it when the situation calls for it. Once, when he hiding in the shadows and preparing to take down a drug dealer, he glanced at the man's two bodyguards and immediately dismissed them. ''Big guys. They've packed on a lot of muscle. Absolutely meaningless unless they've got fighting skills to go with it. Judging by the fact that they have callouses on their palms, from lifting weights, and none on their knuckles from practicing strikes, I don't think these two have spent any time learning how to throw a punch.''

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** Batman himself is experienced and Genre Savvy enough to be fully aware of this, even remarking on it when the situation calls for it. Once, when he hiding in the shadows and preparing to take down a drug dealer, he glanced at the man's two bodyguards and immediately dismissed them. ''Big them.
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guys. They've packed on a lot of muscle. Absolutely meaningless unless they've got fighting skills to go with it. Judging by the fact that they have callouses on their palms, from lifting weights, and none on their knuckles from practicing strikes, I don't think these two have spent any time learning how to throw a punch.''



** So common in fact that when Kara Zor-El -Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}- returned in 2004, writers were easily able to tease the fan base with the idea that the slender 16 year old girl might be stronger than her full grown powerfully built cousin Superman. Turns out, he just holds himself back [[WorldofCardboardSpeech due to living his whole life in a world made of cardboard]]. Though one of the teases was correct. She can fly faster owing to her smaller size.

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** So common in fact that when Kara Zor-El -Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}- ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 2005}} returned in 2004, 2004]]'', writers were easily able to tease the fan base with the idea that the slender 16 year old girl might be stronger than her full grown powerfully built cousin Superman. Turns out, he just holds himself back [[WorldofCardboardSpeech due to living his whole life in a world made of cardboard]]. Though one of the teases was correct. She can fly faster owing to her smaller size.size.
** In ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1972}} her first solo book]]'' Kara met a bunch of guys. All of them were buff and larger than her. Neither of them could move planets (which she did back in the Bronze Age).
26th Oct '16 10:46:07 PM BattleMaster
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* Franchise/SpiderMan possesses incredible strength but also possesses a thin physique that earned him the nickname "Puny Parker".

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* Franchise/SpiderMan possesses incredible strength but also possesses a thin physique that earned him the nickname "Puny Parker". He's typically drawn as having a decent physique, just one more befitting a gymnast or runner rather than the bulk of someone with a lot of upper body strength. ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, for example, has much larger arm and chest muscles despite Spider-Man being several times stronger.
17th Oct '16 6:33:26 PM merotoker
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* Inner Power. It's a common spiritual idea that inner strength equates physical strength. This is often used as a justification in universes where [[KiAttacks the spirit is the true source of a character's strength]]. This is famously known as ''qi'' (or ''ch'i'') in Chinese ''gongfu'' (kung fu) philosophy.

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* Inner Power. It's a common spiritual idea that inner strength equates physical strength. This is often used as a justification in universes where [[KiAttacks [[KiManipulation the spirit is the true source of a character's strength]]. This is famously known as ''qi'' (or ''ch'i'') in Chinese ''gongfu'' (kung fu) philosophy.



* ''Manga/DragonBall'', of course. Soon justified by [[KiAttacks ki energy]], but even before that, Goku could destroy rocks as a child when he was still the size of a watermelon and had stubby arms like a baby.

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* ''Manga/DragonBall'', of course. Soon justified by [[KiAttacks [[KiManipulation ki energy]], but even before that, Goku could destroy rocks as a child when he was still the size of a watermelon and had stubby arms like a baby.



* ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' deals with this a lot. In one of the first arcs, it's specifically shown that physical strength is different (and weaker) than spiritual strength. If you see someone who is muscular in a fight, chances are he'll be relatively weak (with the exception of [[DragonInChief Younger Toguro]]). Particularly addressed in the final Tournament fight, when Yusuke reveals his [[spoiler: Spirit Cuffs, and the flashback to when he got them shows him trying to tear them apart, to no avail. Genkai comments that it measures spiritual energy, NOT physical, so knock it off.]]
** In another sense, as various characters get stronger they don't gain much in physical size; they retain the same basic body style that they start the show with.

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* ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' deals with this a lot. In one of the first arcs, it's specifically shown that physical strength is different (and weaker) than spiritual strength. If you see someone who is muscular in a fight, chances are he'll be relatively weak (with the exception of [[DragonInChief Younger Toguro]]). Particularly addressed in the final Tournament fight, when Yusuke reveals his [[spoiler: Spirit Cuffs, and the flashback to when he got them shows him trying to tear them apart, to no avail. Genkai comments that it measures spiritual energy, NOT physical, so knock it off.]]
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off]]. In another sense, as various characters get stronger they don't gain much in physical size; they retain the same basic body style that they start the show with.



** A specific case of this is Nuriko, whose power is super strength, yet [[spoiler:he's skinny enough to convincingly crossdress as a woman.]]

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** A specific case of this is Nuriko, whose power is super strength, yet [[spoiler:he's skinny enough to convincingly crossdress as a woman.]]woman]].



** Sakura and Tsunade's hard hitting explicitly ''doesn't'' have anything to do with muscles, as it's actually them [[KiAttacks gathering chakra into their fists and blasting it all out on impact]]. Most of their actual physical ability involves heightened agility to [[DeadlyDodging avoid getting hit]]. When it comes to raw physical strength, the strongest tend to be pretty big guys ([[StoutStrength Choji and his father]], [[GiantMook Jirobo]], [[GentleGiant Jugo]], [[LargeAndInCharge the Raikage]]) or use some form of body modification ([[PoweredByAForsakenChild Kakuzu]], cursed seal user, Naruto and Jiraiya in [[SuperMode Sage Mode]]) except for Mighty Guy and Rock Lee, who tend towards the "defined, but lean" [[BruceLeeClone in the style of Bruce Lee]] (see below) as they value both speed and strength. It's outright (and hilariously) subverted when Sasuke (who's really rather scrawny) tries to kick Killer Bee (who is quite large, tall, and muscular)... [[PunchPunchPunchUhOh and it does absolutely nothing]].

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** Sakura and Tsunade's hard hitting explicitly ''doesn't'' have anything to do with muscles, as it's actually them [[KiAttacks [[KiManipulation gathering chakra into their fists and blasting it all out on impact]]. Most of their actual physical ability involves heightened agility to [[DeadlyDodging avoid getting hit]]. When it comes to raw physical strength, the strongest tend to be pretty big guys ([[StoutStrength Choji and his father]], [[GiantMook Jirobo]], [[GentleGiant Jugo]], [[LargeAndInCharge the Raikage]]) or use some form of body modification ([[PoweredByAForsakenChild Kakuzu]], cursed seal user, Naruto and Jiraiya in [[SuperMode Sage Mode]]) except for Mighty Guy and Rock Lee, who tend towards the "defined, but lean" [[BruceLeeClone in the style of Bruce Lee]] (see below) as they value both speed and strength. It's outright (and hilariously) subverted when Sasuke (who's really rather scrawny) tries to kick Killer Bee (who is quite large, tall, and muscular)... [[PunchPunchPunchUhOh and it does absolutely nothing]].



** Tsunade, due to being a hybrid of a Senju and a Uzumaki (both clans with massive amount of pure physical ability and vitality) has incredibly high natural physical strength. So much so that without chakra she could lift and wield Gamabunta's sword after being seriously worn out...and when she enhances her strength with chakra she can [[spoiler: bust through [[BigBad Madara's]] [[InstantArmor Susano'o]].]]

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** Tsunade, due to being a hybrid of a Senju and a Uzumaki (both clans with massive amount of pure physical ability and vitality) has incredibly high natural physical strength. So much so that without chakra she could lift and wield Gamabunta's sword after being seriously worn out...and when she enhances her strength with chakra she can [[spoiler: bust through [[BigBad Madara's]] [[InstantArmor Susano'o]].]]Susano'o]]]].



* The mages in the ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' universe are extremely strong physically, but it doesn't show much in their physique. In the beginning of season two, the nine-year old Nanoha protected herself from attacks from both sides, holding the shields apart with her bare hands in a Franchise/StarWars-like double-AdvancingWallOfDoom manner. Both attacks had the momentum to blow a hole in an average building and eventually made Nanoha ''sink ankle-deep into the concrete floor''. And that's a nine-year old girl with no excessive muscle mass. [[LightningBruiser Powerhouses]] like [[LadyOfWar Signum]] could probably punch holes in reinforced concrete with just those sleek, sexy hands of theirs. (This probably has to do with the series' target demographic, which prefers cute girls to muscular warriors.)

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* The mages in the ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' universe are extremely strong physically, but it doesn't show much in their physique. In the beginning of season two, the nine-year old Nanoha protected herself from attacks from both sides, holding the shields apart with her bare hands in a Franchise/StarWars-like ''Franchise/StarWars''-like double-AdvancingWallOfDoom manner. Both attacks had the momentum to blow a hole in an average building and eventually made Nanoha ''sink ankle-deep into the concrete floor''. And that's a nine-year old girl with no excessive muscle mass. [[LightningBruiser Powerhouses]] like [[LadyOfWar Signum]] could probably punch holes in reinforced concrete with just those sleek, sexy hands of theirs. (This probably has to do with the series' target demographic, which prefers cute girls to muscular warriors.)



** [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Batgirl -Cassandra Cain-]] is noted in the comics as being far stronger (and faster) than even a highly athletic girl her size should be. This is mostly down to her [[MyKungFuIsStrongerThanYours training]]. She very rarely lets lose, but when she does she is fully capable of punching a recently-zombified Joey N'Bobo [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe in half,]] kicking through brick walls, shattering three-inch-thick glass, and throwing around 8-foot tall metahumans.

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** [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Batgirl -Cassandra Cain-]] [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl2000}} Cassandra Cain]] is noted in the comics as being far stronger (and faster) than even a highly athletic girl her size should be. This is mostly down to her [[MyKungFuIsStrongerThanYours training]]. She very rarely lets lose, loose, but when she does she is fully capable of punching a recently-zombified Joey N'Bobo [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe in half,]] kicking through brick walls, shattering three-inch-thick glass, and throwing around 8-foot tall metahumans.



* Fawcett's (and later DC's) character Captain Marvel Jr. looks about 12 and has a spindly physique, but thanks to the COmicBook/{{Shazam}} powers is one of the world's strongest heroes.
* [[Characters/XMen80sMembers Rogue]] is drawn as an athletic woman, but rarely with muscles anywhere approximating what she can do. Justified in that [[PowerParasite she stole the strength powers from]] [[Comicbook/MsMarvel another hero]].

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* Fawcett's (and later DC's) character Captain Marvel Jr. looks about 12 and has a spindly physique, but thanks to the COmicBook/{{Shazam}} ComicBook/{{Shazam}} powers is one of the world's strongest heroes.
* [[Characters/XMen80sMembers Rogue]] ComicBook/{{Rogue}} is drawn as an athletic woman, but rarely with muscles anywhere approximating what she can do. Justified in that [[PowerParasite she stole the strength powers from]] [[Comicbook/MsMarvel another hero]].



* The second [[Film/{{Transformers}} live action Transformers movie]] has Optimus Prime dominating Megatron in battle, despite Prime being smaller and getting beat up by the latter in the first film. Justified in that Prime was distracted by his fear of collateral damage in the first film, whereas he can cut loose with no problems in the second.

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* The second [[Film/{{Transformers}} live action Transformers movie]] ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'' has Optimus Prime dominating Megatron in battle, despite Prime being smaller and getting beat up by the latter in [[Film/{{Transformers}} the first film.film]]. Justified in that Prime was distracted by his fear of collateral damage in the first film, whereas he can cut loose with no problems in the second.



* Justified for force users in StarWars in that [[MindOverMatter the force]] is much more powerful than mere physical strength and can even enhance it,which means that both Jedi and Sith don't need to be extremely fit in order to defeat an opponent twice their size or lift heavy objects that would crush a normal person.

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* Justified for force users in StarWars ''Franchise/StarWars'' in that [[MindOverMatter the force]] is much more powerful than mere physical strength and can even enhance it,which means that both Jedi and Sith don't need to be extremely fit in order to defeat an opponent twice their size or lift heavy objects that would crush a normal person.



* ''[[Film/{{Deadpool2016}} Deadpool]]'' gives us an interesting case. While Angel Dust is a powerfully built woman (played by Creator/GinaCarano), she's still significantly smaller than Colossus, and lacks his organic steel skin. Despite this, she matches him in both strength and durability.

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* ''[[Film/{{Deadpool2016}} Deadpool]]'' ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'' gives us an interesting case. While Angel Dust is a powerfully built woman (played by Creator/GinaCarano), she's still significantly smaller than Colossus, and lacks his organic steel skin. Despite this, she matches him in both strength and durability.



** And totally {{Averted}} with Feruchemists, who actually get more muscles when they tap Strength.

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** And totally {{Averted}} {{averted|Trope}} with Feruchemists, who actually get more muscles when they tap Strength.



** A more realistic example than some series. Leaner combatants can get by through skill or speed, but never or rarely overpower the larger fighters. No one has ever overpowered Ser Gregor Clegane, for example. [[spoiler: But a lean warrior such as Oberyn could certaintly outmaneuver him into a killing blow.]]

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** A more realistic example than some series. Leaner combatants can get by through skill or speed, but never or rarely overpower the larger fighters. No one has ever overpowered Ser Gregor Clegane, for example. [[spoiler: But a lean warrior such as Oberyn could certaintly certainly outmaneuver him into a killing blow.]]



** Vulcans are even stronger in Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath's fanworks. In ''The Promethean Design'', where we meet the legendary Vulcan admiral Savaj, Vulcans are revealed to be virtual demigods. He preaches at Spock to admit he's living in a [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech World Of Cardboard]] and not indulging his full Vulcan potential. This is their explanation for why there are all-Vulcan ships like the ''Intrepid''; Savaj tells Kirk he wouldn't even be able to ''push buttons'' on a Vulcan ship. At one point, having taken this to heart, Spock actually leaps a tall wall in a single bound.

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** Vulcans are even stronger in Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath's fanworks. In ''The Promethean Design'', where we meet the legendary Vulcan admiral Savaj, Vulcans are revealed to be virtual demigods. He preaches at Spock to admit he's living in a [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech World Of Cardboard]] {{World of Cardboard|Speech}} and not indulging his full Vulcan potential. This is their explanation for why there are all-Vulcan ships like the ''Intrepid''; Savaj tells Kirk he wouldn't even be able to ''push buttons'' on a Vulcan ship. At one point, having taken this to heart, Spock actually leaps a tall wall in a single bound.



* X-5 series transgenic supersoldiers in ''DarkAngel''. While Zack is fairly bulky, Max and Alec have roughly the same level of enhanced physical prowess.

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* X-5 series transgenic supersoldiers in ''DarkAngel''.''Series/DarkAngel''. While Zack is fairly bulky, Max and Alec have roughly the same level of enhanced physical prowess.



* Pro wrestling usually averts this trope, but when {{Wrestling/WWE}} had The Hurricane, he would often chokeslam wrestlers several times his own size. (The chokeslam normally being reserved for [[TheGiant huge wrestlers]].) Hey, he is supposed to be a SuperHero, after all. Only when he was a good guy. When he first entered the WWE and was a villain, it was played for laughs.

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* Pro wrestling usually averts this trope, but when {{Wrestling/WWE}} had [[Wrestling/GregoryHelms The Hurricane, Hurricane]], he would often chokeslam wrestlers several times his own size. (The chokeslam normally being reserved for [[TheGiant huge wrestlers]].) Hey, he is supposed to be a SuperHero, after all. Only However this was only the case when he was a good guy. When guy; when he first entered the WWE and was as a villain, it was played for laughs.



* In one of his books Wrestling/MickFoley once wrote that when a wrestler had a less than stellar physique, the commentators would often cover for the wrestler's ability to throw guys around by claiming they had exceptional ''tendon'' strength. In some cases, such as with Dan "The Beast" Severn, it was true.
* While it is normal for lightweight wrestlers to be squashed by the big guys they are plenty of cases where the smaller guys (and girls) can get the win against them. This can normally only be done with high flyers who rely on hit-and-run type tactics.
** Wrestling/{{ECW}}'s [[Wrestling/TheDudleyBoys Little Spike Dudley]] made a career of this as a "Giant-Killer," who would run into the ring, [[GroinAttack low-blow]] his opponent and hit the Acid Drop (running-up-turnbuckles bulldog) and pin the big guy in about 15 seconds or so.

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* In one of his books Wrestling/MickFoley once wrote that when a wrestler had a less than stellar physique, the commentators would often cover for the wrestler's ability to throw guys around by claiming they had exceptional ''tendon'' strength. In some cases, such as with [[Wrestling/DanSevern Dan "The Beast" Severn, Severn]], it was true.
* While it is normal for lightweight wrestlers to be squashed by the big guys they there are plenty of cases where the smaller guys (and girls) can get the win against them. This can normally only be done with high flyers who rely on hit-and-run type tactics.
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tactics. Wrestling/{{ECW}}'s [[Wrestling/TheDudleyBoys [[Wrestling/SpikeDudley Little Spike Dudley]] made a career of this as a "Giant-Killer," who would run into the ring, [[GroinAttack low-blow]] his opponent and hit the Acid Drop (running-up-turnbuckles bulldog) and pin the big guy in about 15 seconds or so.



* In TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}, the physical prowess of an Exalt is more linked to the way Essence empowers his body than to the amount of muscles. This is especially true for supernatural Strength level; someone with Strength 6 or 7 will usually look very strong, but not more than any well-built guy although he can casually bend thick steel bars, punch metal-reinforced doors out of their frames or lift horses.

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* In TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}, ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', the physical prowess of an Exalt is more linked to the way Essence empowers his body than to the amount of muscles. This is especially true for supernatural Strength level; someone with Strength 6 or 7 will usually look very strong, but not more than any well-built guy although he can casually bend thick steel bars, punch metal-reinforced doors out of their frames or lift horses.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Dungeons And Dragons}}'': 3.5 has a rather infamous splatbook called Tome of Battle: Book of Nine Swords, which is an attempt to help shorten [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards the gap between meleers and spellcasters]] through the usage of maneuvers, which are kind of like spells. One of the ninth-level maneuvers, Tornado Throw, fits this trope perfectly, as you can have a rather spindly human take a running start and ''hurl a dragon to the moon''.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Dungeons And Dragons}}'': ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'': 3.5 has a rather infamous splatbook called Tome of Battle: Book of Nine Swords, which is an attempt to help shorten [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards the gap between meleers and spellcasters]] through the usage of maneuvers, which are kind of like spells. One of the ninth-level maneuvers, Tornado Throw, fits this trope perfectly, as you can have a rather spindly human take a running start and ''hurl a dragon to the moon''.



* In ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', the FragileSpeedster Fox is not only possibly the fastest character, he also has two of the most powerful KO-moves in his up-aerial and up-smash, the latter of which is the second-most powerful of its sort in the whole game, easily beating the much slower up-smashes of Characters/DonkeyKong and [[Characters/TheLegendOfZelda Ganondorf]] in terms of raw power. And the strongest up-smash? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Pikachu's.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'', the Melee''
** The
FragileSpeedster Fox is not only possibly the fastest character, he also has two of the most powerful KO-moves in his up-aerial and up-smash, the latter of which is the second-most powerful of its sort in the whole game, easily beating the much slower up-smashes of Characters/DonkeyKong and [[Characters/TheLegendOfZelda Ganondorf]] in terms of raw power. And the strongest up-smash? [[ViolationOfCommonSense Pikachu's.]]



* [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] as well; he can do things like lift Bowser by the tail, spin him around swiftly and throw him across an arena [[ShapedLikeItself with just his arms]] in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', despite being a short, somewhat pudgy guy. Also applies to Luigi, who's a bit thinner overall but nearly as strong.
** However, in proportion to their size, Mario and Luigi do have the thickest legs and second-thickest arms out of the humanoid characters. They still don't appear to be very muscular, though.

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* [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] as well; he ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros''
** Mario
can do things like lift Bowser by the tail, spin him around swiftly and throw him across an arena [[ShapedLikeItself with just his arms]] in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', despite being a short, somewhat pudgy guy. Also applies to Luigi, who's a bit thinner overall but nearly as strong.
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strong. However, in proportion to their size, Mario and Luigi do have the thickest legs and second-thickest arms out of the humanoid characters. They still don't appear to be very muscular, though.



* ''VideoGame/{{Mega Man|1}}'' allows you to gain the same strength as Gutsman, a boss robot at least twice your size. The strength Mega Man shows in the end of [[VideoGame/MegaMan5 the fifth game]] needs to be seen. The former is justified by his nature as a robot as well as his power set, but the latter case is absolutely ludicrous for a robot designed to be a lab assistant.
** In its spinoffs, MegaManBattleNetwork and MegaManStarForce, both version of the title character show surprising strength despite their thin frames, wielding weaponry as large or larger than they are with ease. This is taken further in the anime, where the first action scenes have them punching out a Navi twice their size and catching a falling train car with ease respectively.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Mega Man|1}}'' allows you to gain the same strength as Gutsman, a boss robot at least twice your size. The strength Mega Man shows in the end of [[VideoGame/MegaMan5 the fifth game]] needs to be seen. The former is justified by his nature as a robot as well as his power set, but the latter case is absolutely ludicrous for a robot designed to be a lab assistant.
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assistant. In its spinoffs, MegaManBattleNetwork ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' and MegaManStarForce, ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'', both version versions of the title character show surprising strength despite their thin frames, wielding weaponry as large or larger than they are with ease. This is taken further in the anime, where the first action scenes have them punching out a Navi twice their size and catching a falling train car with ease respectively.



* Kinda averted in {{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}} and the {{Nasuverse}}. Arc and Saber are stated to be as weak as they appear if not for their high levels of supernatural magical energies. Then again, it does fit this trope in that MusclesAreMeaningless compare to magical energies and just about everyone that matters uses magical energies.

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* Kinda averted in {{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}} and the {{Nasuverse}}. Arc and Saber are stated to be as weak as they appear if not for their high levels of supernatural magical energies. Then again, it does fit this trope in that MusclesAreMeaningless compare muscles are meaningless compared to magical energies and just about everyone that matters uses magical energies.



** Prior to the SuperSoldier treatment, the an InUniverse explanation for this trope was the presence of genetic enchancements in all Alliance soldier, including Shepard, that make them considerably stronger than they appear, and all combat armor has a built in exoskeleton. Also, it's worth noting that neither the male nor female Shepard do much heavy lifting in the first game, sticking to firearms and grenades instead. Hard melee attacks were introduced in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''.

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** Prior to the SuperSoldier treatment, the an InUniverse explanation for this trope was the presence of genetic enchancements enhancements in all Alliance soldier, including Shepard, that make them considerably stronger than they appear, and all combat armor has a built in exoskeleton. Also, it's worth noting that neither the male nor female Shepard do much heavy lifting in the first game, sticking to firearms and grenades instead. Hard melee attacks were introduced in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''.



** Cloud. He's 5'7", making him the shortest human male in the cast. Also, while having well defined muscles, is much smaller than [[TheBigGuy Barret]]. Yet he's significantly stronger than anyone else in the party, carries a {{BFS}} like it's a feather, and in ''[[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]'' he ''carries'' Barret ''one-handed'' at high speed. {{Justified}} in that he's been enhanced via magical techniques. His actual degree of musculature varies on the [[AdaptationalAttractiveness specific portrayal]] - it caused some minor InternetBackdraft when ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' was announced, in which Cloud is less muscular than he's usually portrayed and [[NothingButSkinAndBones very, very thin]]. Many fans thought this was silly, but many others thought it was appropriate for his [[PeopleJars history]] and [[DeathOfPersonality character at that point]].

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** Cloud. He's 5'7", making him the shortest human male in the cast. Also, while having well defined muscles, is much smaller than [[TheBigGuy Barret]]. Yet he's significantly stronger than anyone else in the party, carries a {{BFS}} like it's a feather, and in ''[[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]'' he ''carries'' Barret ''one-handed'' at high speed. {{Justified}} {{Justified|Trope}} in that he's been enhanced via magical techniques. His actual degree of musculature varies on the [[AdaptationalAttractiveness specific portrayal]] - it caused some minor InternetBackdraft when ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' was announced, in which Cloud is less muscular than he's usually portrayed and [[NothingButSkinAndBones very, very thin]]. Many fans thought this was silly, but many others thought it was appropriate for his [[PeopleJars history]] and [[DeathOfPersonality character at that point]].



** Averted with regards to normal enemies, though, as Sammy is the only character who can't throw an opponent using his strength alone. while even the short but muscular Blaze can throw out out a [[SuplexFinisher suplex or three]], Skate's only actual throw comes from [[CombatParkour flipping over the opponent]] and using the momentum and leverage to toss ''them'' forward.

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** Averted with regards to normal enemies, though, as Sammy is the only character who can't throw an opponent using his strength alone. while even the short but muscular Blaze can throw out out a [[SuplexFinisher suplex or three]], Skate's only actual throw comes from [[CombatParkour flipping over the opponent]] and using the momentum and leverage to toss ''them'' forward.



* The Boss in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3'' seems the be built like an average woman, but is capable of firing an assault rifle with one hand and carrying Davy Crockett miniature nuclear platform weighing 300kg around effortlessly.

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* The Boss in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' seems the be built like an average woman, but is capable of firing an assault rifle with one hand and carrying Davy Crockett miniature nuclear platform weighing 300kg around effortlessly.



* Stewie Griffin of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' can brutalize adults and fire an automatic weapon with no recoil problems despite being a baby. And then he'll get his ass whooped by an infant younger than him.

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Stewie Griffin of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' can brutalize adults and fire an automatic weapon with no recoil problems despite being a baby. And then he'll get his ass whooped by an infant younger than him.



* ''TeamUmizoomi'' has Geo, who can easily lift one person and several cartons of milk even for his ''size and age''.

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* ''TeamUmizoomi'' ''WesternAnimation/TeamUmizoomi'' has Geo, who can easily lift one person and several cartons of milk even for his ''size and age''.



* Black Canary demonstrated this in ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' as she easily bested Superboy in a sparring match despite the fact that being half-Kryptonian, he was much stronger than her. This is mostly due to A) her being highly skilled fighter, and B) Superboy's anger clouded much of his judgement.
* WesternAnimation/FoghornLeghorn of ''Looney Tunes'' is a large, powerfully-built rooster who is constantly getting his butt kicked by baby Henery Hawk! Of course, he has no problem picking on a dog his own size, as long as said dog isn't on the lookout.
* WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown Master Fung said to the monks "It's not the strength of one's size, but the size of one's strength that matters." Omi then relayed this message to them again only for Kimiko to say "But he's just a small bean."

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* Black Canary demonstrated this in ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' as she easily bested Superboy in a sparring match despite the fact that being half-Kryptonian, he was much stronger than her. This is mostly due to A) her being a highly skilled fighter, and B) Superboy's anger clouded much of his judgement.
* WesternAnimation/FoghornLeghorn of ''Looney Tunes'' ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' is a large, powerfully-built rooster who is constantly getting his butt kicked by baby Henery Hawk! Of course, he has no problem picking on a dog his own size, as long as said dog isn't on the lookout.
* WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'': Master Fung said to the monks "It's not the strength of one's size, but the size of one's strength that matters." Omi then relayed this message to them again only for Kimiko to say "But he's just a small bean."
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