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25th Oct '16 11:18:13 AM hydrix
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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of him, he was sent to court for corrupting the youth of Athens, in the hope that he would leave Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments because he broke the Athenian law and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner. He died at age 81, which is quite old by ancient Greek standards.

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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve Five years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of him, he was sent to court for corrupting the youth of Athens, in the hope that he would leave Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments because he broke the Athenian law and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner. He died at age 81, which is quite old by ancient Greek standards.
24th Oct '16 2:03:21 PM hydrix
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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of him, he was sent to court for 'corrupting the youth of Athens', in the hope that he would leave Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner. He died at age 81, which is quite old by ancient Greek standards.

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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of him, he was sent to court for 'corrupting corrupting the youth of Athens', Athens, in the hope that he would leave Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments because he broke the Athenian law and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner. He died at age 81, which is quite old by ancient Greek standards.
24th Oct '16 2:02:26 PM hydrix
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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of him, he was sent to court for 'corrupting the youth of Athens', in the hope that he would leave Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner.

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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of him, he was sent to court for 'corrupting the youth of Athens', in the hope that he would leave Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner. He died at age 81, which is quite old by ancient Greek standards.
24th Oct '16 1:56:49 PM hydrix
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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a very good deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of Socrates, he was sent to court for 'corrupting the youth of Athens', in the hope that he would leave Athens.

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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a very good deconstruction of this. During his life he was known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of Socrates, him, he was sent to court for 'corrupting the youth of Athens', in the hope that he would leave Athens. Athens for good. He however, refused defending himself and continued proposing worse and worse punishments and was in the end sentenced to death. Despite his fans offering him plans and strategies to leave Athens during his week in prison, which would have worked if for no other reason than because it is what the prosecutors wanted, he took his death and drank the poison that was given to him by the executioner.
24th Oct '16 1:49:21 PM hydrix
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* Creator/{{Socrates}} was sentenced to death for "corrupting the youth of Athens" in 399 BCE, making this OlderThanFeudalism. Although if Jack Thompson and his ilk heard video game people comparing themselves to Socrates, they'd probably have an apoplectic fit.

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* Creator/{{Socrates}} is a very good deconstruction of this. During his life he was sentenced to death known as a rather annoying brat that asked random people on the streets questions such as "What is justice?" and "What is good?". He did also make a school where people could study retoric for "corrupting free, out of belief that not making it free would be immoral. One of his students however turned out to be Alkibiades who, after having studied by Socrates and becoming a beloved political leader, restarted the war against Sparta and, later in his life, sided with the Spartans, where he uncovered all the military plans that Athens was making, which led to the Athenians inevitable losing of the war. This all was followed by a regime led by thirty tyrants that, due to fierce backlash of very charismatic Athenian politicians, only lasted for about a year. Twelve years later, due to everyone except his devoted fans being tired of Socrates, he was sent to court for 'corrupting the youth of Athens" Athens', in 399 BCE, making this OlderThanFeudalism. Although if Jack Thompson and his ilk heard video game people comparing themselves to Socrates, they'd probably have an apoplectic fit.the hope that he would leave Athens.
15th Oct '16 6:42:58 AM kome360
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** Bonus points for Ocelot's reasoning behind the "Five Billion Dollar Murder Simulator" theory: He's already seen [[spoiler:a completely regular soldier who was crippled and mind-raped turned into an indistinguishable replica of the legendary Big Boss via narrative, context, and hands-on visceral experience]]. Also known as the "NGO Military Leader / War-Crime Sociopath Simulator".
23rd Aug '16 9:58:04 AM Bisected8
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** "Intimidation Game" is supposedly based on [=GamerGate=]. The plot revolves around a group of murderous teenagers who want to kill a woman for the heinous crime of publishing the game while being female. The team figures out that the whole attack is a recreation of the game ''Kill or Be Slaughtered''. Near the end of the episode it's revealed that one of the would-be killers literally sees the world as if it's a video game (with HUD and all). Other highlights include when Fin screams about how real life doesn't have a reset button after threatening to shoot. It's considered one of the most biased representations of "gaming causes violence" in a long time, despite how well the series had handled the subject before.
23rd Aug '16 8:59:15 AM DracoKanji
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** "Intimidation Game" is supposedly based on [=GamerGate=]. The plot revolves around a group of murderous teenagers who want to kill a woman for the heinous crime of publishing the game while being female. The team figures out that the whole attack is a recreation of the game ''Kill or Be Slaughtered''. Near the end of the episode it's revealed that one of the would-be killers literally sees the world as if it's a video game (with HUD and all). Other highlights include when Fin screams about how real life doesn't have a reset button after threatening to shoot. It's considered one of the most biased representations of "gaming causes violence" in a long time, despite how well the series had handled the subject before.
23rd Aug '16 3:09:37 AM Morgenthaler
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* Andrew Schlafly of Wiki/{{Conservapedia}} has a love of InsaneTrollLogic and a hatred of video games and will invariably take advantage of the most tenuous connection to link any news story involving violence or misadventure to gaming. Highlights include the event of an apparently healthy college football star dying suddenly due to what turned out to be an undiagnosed heart condition; articles mentioned he had last been seen playing a video game, so Andy [[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.phptitle=Template%3AMainpageright&action=historysubmit&diff=939108&oldid=939064 felt free to speculate]] that the game was somehow responsible. He also announced that Kim Jong-un and the perpetrator of the Norway summer camp shooting were video game fans, as if this explained everything that was wrong with them, and managed to interpret a story about a boy accidentally shooting his younger brother to death because of an argument over a video game as being about the dangers of games rather than the dangers of leaving guns where your children can get them.

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* Andrew Schlafly of Wiki/{{Conservapedia}} Conservapedia has a love of InsaneTrollLogic and a hatred of video games and will invariably take advantage of the most tenuous connection to link any news story involving violence or misadventure to gaming. Highlights include the event of an apparently healthy college football star dying suddenly due to what turned out to be an undiagnosed heart condition; articles mentioned he had last been seen playing a video game, so Andy [[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.phptitle=Template%3AMainpageright&action=historysubmit&diff=939108&oldid=939064 felt free to speculate]] that the game was somehow responsible. He also announced that Kim Jong-un and the perpetrator of the Norway summer camp shooting were video game fans, as if this explained everything that was wrong with them, and managed to interpret a story about a boy accidentally shooting his younger brother to death because of an argument over a video game as being about the dangers of games rather than the dangers of leaving guns where your children can get them.
22nd Jul '16 8:07:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* Obligatory ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' example, when they mocked this trope back in the "play violent games and you're a criminal" days. Tycho and Gabe are waiting at a line, when Tycho, sick of waiting, shouts [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy "I play violent video games! I could snap any minute!"]]... only to make fun of the clerk hiding behind the counter immediately afterwards.

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* Obligatory ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' example, when they mocked this trope back in the "play violent games and you're a criminal" days. Tycho and Gabe are waiting at a line, when Tycho, sick of waiting, shouts [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[GenreSavvy "I play violent video games! I could snap any minute!"]]... only to make fun of the clerk hiding behind the counter immediately afterwards.
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