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31st Mar '16 12:12:09 PM bwburke94
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fic ''Roll for Initiative'', Princess Luna turns out to be an incredibly infuriating min-maxer, rules lawyer, loot stealer, and AttentionWhore to boot. Her gaming group asks her to play a level 10 rouge--and she plays a multiclassed level 37 [[PhysicalGod alicorn]] ([[ExactWords because it has 10 levels in rogue]]). After one session of putting up with Luna, the GM creates a new campaign specifically to [[BroughtDownToNormal neutralize Luna's character]] and let the rest of the party actually do something.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fic ''Roll for Initiative'', Princess Luna turns out to be an incredibly infuriating min-maxer, rules lawyer, loot stealer, and AttentionWhore to boot. Her gaming group asks her to play a level 10 rouge--and rogue--and she plays a multiclassed level 37 [[PhysicalGod alicorn]] ([[ExactWords because it has 10 levels in rogue]]). After one session of putting up with Luna, the GM creates a new campaign specifically to [[BroughtDownToNormal neutralize Luna's character]] and let the rest of the party actually do something.
17th Mar '16 8:11:49 PM Wyvernil
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* RulesLawyer: This Munchkin disputes every GameMaster ruling and has memorized every loophole in the game manual. For some reason, he never seems to "correct" the DM when the rules as written would hurt him. The GameMaster's best tactic against this guy is RuleZero; what the DM says, goes, no matter what page 54, column 2, line 41, word 5 of the book says. The LawfulGood variety of RulesLawyer hate this kind of Munchkin for missing the point of having rules in the first place.

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* RulesLawyer: This Munchkin disputes every GameMaster ruling and has memorized every loophole in the game manual. For some reason, he never seems to "correct" the DM when the rules as written would hurt him. The GameMaster's best tactic against this guy is RuleZero; what the DM says, goes, no matter what page 54, column 2, line 41, word 5 of the book says. The LawfulGood variety of RulesLawyer hate this kind of Munchkin for missing the point of having rules in the first place. Other players hate this guy for grinding play to a halt every ten minutes to argue over pointless rules minutia.
20th Feb '16 1:41:31 PM CheeseDogX
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The name "munchkin" refers to the tendency of younger players to adopt this play style. Munchkins are, more than anything else, immature. They tend to grow out of it.

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The name "munchkin" refers to the tendency of younger players to adopt this play style. Munchkins are, more than anything else, immature. They tend to grow out of it.
it. An old, possibly apocryphal, story states that they were originally called "muchkins" on UseNET, due to their tendency to try and acquire as "much" as they possibly can.
3rd Feb '16 2:32:27 PM Aquillion
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* Apparently Enryu from ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod''. When the goal of the story is to advance through each Floor of the Tower by passing the tests made by the Guardians of said Floors, Enryu decided to kill the Guardian of the 43rd Floor. You're not supposed to do that. Now, with no Guardian, Regulars do not take a test there.

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* Apparently Enryu from ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod''.''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'' has been described as such ''[[WordOfGod by the author]]''. When the goal of the story is to advance through each Floor of the Tower by passing the tests made by the Guardians of said Floors, Enryu decided to kill the Guardian of the 43rd Floor. You're not supposed to do that. Now, with no Guardian, Regulars do not take a test there.
1st Feb '16 8:09:49 PM SmartGirl333
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** The alien Vriska Sekret is of the "Gamebuster" variety, who takes time out from being a KillerGameMaster to be a [[ExpospeakGag Petticoat Seagrift]] in the "extreme role playing" game F{{LARP}}. She has ''all'' the levels. [[MemeticMutation All of them.]]\\

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** The alien Vriska Sekret Serket is of the "Gamebuster" variety, who takes time out from being a KillerGameMaster to be a [[ExpospeakGag Petticoat Seagrift]] in the "extreme role playing" game F{{LARP}}. She has ''all'' the levels. [[MemeticMutation All of them.]]\\
25th Jan '16 5:20:48 PM pablo360
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* The {{Troll}}: This player isn't there to have fun with others - he or she is there to have fun at the expense of others. In a role playing game, they'll make the most disruptive character they can and cause as much havoc as they can, even at the expense of the other players (which isn't the same as the other PlayerCharacters). They'll excuse bad behavior with, "I'm just playing my character!" In a competitive game, they'll use a mix of {{Metagame}}r and Gamebuster tricks along with the above until no one is having fun. The Troll will take smack-talking way beyond any level the group is comfortable with until tempers flare. The only solution for these Munchkins is to tell them how the other players feel, then show them the door if they don't change.

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* The {{Troll}}: This player isn't there to have fun with others - he or she is there to have fun at the expense of others. In a role playing game, they'll make the most disruptive character they can and cause as much havoc as they can, even at the expense of the other players (which isn't the same as the other PlayerCharacters). They'll excuse bad behavior with, "I'm just playing my character!" In a competitive game, they'll use a mix of {{Metagame}}r and Gamebuster GameBreaker tricks along with the above until no one is having fun. The Troll will take smack-talking way beyond any level the group is comfortable with until tempers flare. The only solution for these Munchkins is to tell them how the other players feel, then show them the door if they don't change.
17th Jan '16 9:54:22 PM morenohijazo
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** ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' twinks dominated PlayerVersusPlayer battlegrounds in the lower level brackets, often frustrating more "average" low level players. One famous twink had a dodge rating of 120% at level 10. Blizzard really ought to know better; Diablo II had level restrictions on enhancement items way back in the late '90s.

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** ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' twinks dominated PlayerVersusPlayer battlegrounds in the lower level brackets, often frustrating more "average" low level players. One famous twink had a dodge rating of 120% at level 10. Blizzard really ought to know better; Diablo II ''VideoGame/DiabloII'' had level restrictions on enhancement items way back in the late '90s.



* Implied lampshading in DiabloIII: Diablo uses illusions (formed by physically manifested parts of his violent psyche) just to insult the player. The most poignant one is Captain Leonidas, who calls out the heroes for being on the side of good, yet fighting for, in order: wealth, violence, and the chance to be a total dick to the people around them. THIS IS YOU, PLAYER. The player character shrugs it off but it's obvious who the real target was there; you literally butchered thousands of demons, grinding for experience points and generally not considering the lives you just saved over the loot you just earned, outright ignoring people in distress just to kill a goblin with a sack of moolah, selling and recycling weapons that soldiers gave you in thanks or with their dying breath, and all this time did you even consider the fact that [[spoiler: heaven]] is LITERALLY BURNING? You'll play anyway.

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* Implied lampshading in DiabloIII: ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'': Diablo uses illusions (formed by physically manifested parts of his violent psyche) just to insult the player. The most poignant one is Captain Leonidas, who calls out the heroes for being on the side of good, yet fighting for, in order: wealth, violence, and the chance to be a total dick to the people around them. THIS IS YOU, PLAYER. The player character shrugs it off but it's obvious who the real target was there; you literally butchered thousands of demons, grinding for experience points and generally not considering the lives you just saved over the loot you just earned, outright ignoring people in distress just to kill a goblin with a sack of moolah, selling and recycling weapons that soldiers gave you in thanks or with their dying breath, and all this time did you even consider the fact that [[spoiler: heaven]] is LITERALLY BURNING? You'll play anyway.
6th Jan '16 5:29:47 AM Demotivator
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* Apparently Enryu from ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod''. When the goal of the story is to advance through each floor of the Tower by passing the tests made by the guardians of that floor, Enryu decided to kill the Guardian of 43F. You're not supposed to do that. Now, with no guardian, regulars do not take a test there.

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* Apparently Enryu from ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod''. When the goal of the story is to advance through each floor Floor of the Tower by passing the tests made by the guardians Guardians of that floor, said Floors, Enryu decided to kill the Guardian of 43F.the 43rd Floor. You're not supposed to do that. Now, with no guardian, regulars Guardian, Regulars do not take a test there.
2nd Jan '16 12:16:04 AM Tuckerscreator
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* ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' turns [[Franchise/StarWars R2-D2]] into this. To be exact, his form comes from taking [[DoAnythingRobot so many gadgets and abilities]], offset with lots of flaws and downsides like lack of height, no arms, and inability to speak Basic. However, R2's player frequently ignores the latter drawback, claiming it only applies when he's "talking in-character". His "win at all cost" tendencies are further displayed when he temporarily becomes the Dungeon Master and so lures the other players into a cruelly designed obstacle course (represented by ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' refinery), where all the players struggle to even survive while he just flies past on rocket boosters.

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* ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' turns [[Franchise/StarWars R2-D2]] into this. To be exact, his form comes from taking [[DoAnythingRobot so many gadgets and abilities]], offset with lots of flaws and downsides like lack of height, no arms, and inability to speak Basic. However, R2's player frequently ignores the latter drawback, claiming it only applies when he's "talking in-character". His "win at all cost" tendencies are further displayed when he temporarily becomes the Dungeon Master and so lures the other players into a cruelly designed obstacle course (represented by the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' refinery), where all the players struggle to even survive while he just flies past on rocket boosters.
2nd Jan '16 12:13:47 AM Tuckerscreator
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* The Einzberns in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and ''LightNovel/FateZero'' are solid examples. Generally, they seem to have a penchant for summoning the most powerful servants available, such as Angra Mainyu in the 3rd war ([[spoiler:only he [[ShroudedInMyth wasn't what they expected]]]]), [[spoiler:King Arthur]], the most powerful Saber-type Servant, in the 4th war, and Heracles, who they [[MinMaxing MinMaxed]] despite the fact that he was already very formidable without it. Specifically in his case: sacrificing all his sanity points for a boost to all stats, even though he would be much more dangerous with his mind intact despite the slightly lower stats, seeing as he's Heracles and all. His Master [[EnfantTerrible Illyasviel von Einzbern]] is just as badly minmaxed, her creators having modified her body so she has enough {{mana}} to continuously feed his energy-expensive mad enhancement ability. The process they used [[OlderThanTheyLook stopped her growth before hitting puberty]] and shortened her lifespan to less than 20 years. Additionally, they stole her [[TrainingFromHell childhood]] in order get the two of them to bond, thus earning her his total obedience. Ironically, they always lose.

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* The Einzberns in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and ''LightNovel/FateZero'' are solid examples. Generally, they seem to have a penchant for summoning the most powerful servants available, such as Angra Mainyu in the 3rd war ([[spoiler:only he [[ShroudedInMyth wasn't what they expected]]]]), [[spoiler:King Arthur]], King Arthur, the most powerful Saber-type Servant, in the 4th war, and Heracles, who they [[MinMaxing MinMaxed]] despite the fact that he was already very formidable without it. Specifically in his case: sacrificing all his sanity points for a boost to all stats, even though he would be much more dangerous with his mind intact despite the slightly lower stats, seeing as he's Heracles and all. His Master [[EnfantTerrible Illyasviel von Einzbern]] is just as badly minmaxed, her creators having modified her body so she has enough {{mana}} to continuously feed his energy-expensive mad enhancement ability. The process they used [[OlderThanTheyLook stopped her growth before hitting puberty]] and shortened her lifespan to less than 20 years. Additionally, they stole her [[TrainingFromHell childhood]] in order get the two of them to bond, thus earning her his total obedience. Ironically, they always lose.
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