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2nd Dec '17 4:58:49 AM Vir
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* In 2005, [[http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/savetoby.asp an email forward]] made the rounds, stating that the original sender of the email had hit some financial hard times, and would have to cook and eat his pet rabbit if he didn't receive enough donations. (A variation on the same also appeared, with an alleged young couple threatening to have an abortion unless they received enough donations.) In both cases, either the amount asked for, or the time in which to donate the money were increased.

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* In 2005, [[http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/savetoby.asp an email forward]] made the rounds, stating that the original sender of the email had hit some financial hard times, and would have to cook and eat his pet rabbit if he didn't receive enough donations. (A variation on the same also appeared, with an alleged young couple threatening to have an abortion unless they received enough donations.) In both cases, either the amount asked for, or the time in which to donate the money were was increased.



** "Neptune's Spatula" had [=SpongeBob=] trying to be declared the greatest chef ever. Neptune at one point added more and more conditions a person must meet to be the greatest chef (such as "must be left-handed"), often contradicting previous conditions ("Must wear blue underwear, no, RED!"). [=SpongeBob=] kept meeting ALL of them.



** Another episode had Spongebob trying to be declared the greatest chef ever. Poseidon at one point adding more and more conditions a person must meet to be the greatest chef (such as "must be left handed"), often contradicting previous conditions ("Must wear blue underwear, no, RED!"). Spongebob kept meeting ALL of them.
26th Nov '17 12:10:59 PM CheeseDogX
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* The Battle School in ''Literature/EndersGame'' uses this principle. Ender is virtually unbeatable in his war exercises, so the administration of the school start stacking the odds against him. Ender's opponents are given such benefits as head-starts to strategically place their troops, partial immunity to Ender's weapons, and eventually are allowed to attack him with vastly superior numbers. Ender starts using technically-legal but unconventional strategies to win, which the administration always makes illegal after every victory. Ender eventually gets so pissed off at the blatant cheating that he starts outright breaking the rules of combat himself, which it turns out was [[HiddenPurposeTest exactly what the administration wanted]]. Most army commanders start resenting Ender for his unending string of victories. Bonzo in particular keeps claiming that the teachers are rigging the game in ''Ender'''s favor. Only an idiot would believe that, given all the advantages the other armies get.

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* The Battle School in ''Literature/EndersGame'' uses this principle. Ender is virtually unbeatable in his war exercises, so the administration of the school start stacking the odds against him. Ender's opponents are given such benefits as head-starts to strategically place their troops, partial immunity to Ender's weapons, and eventually are allowed to attack him with vastly superior numbers. Ender starts using technically-legal but unconventional strategies to win, which the administration always makes illegal after every victory. Ender eventually gets so pissed off at the blatant cheating that he starts outright breaking the rules of combat himself, which it turns out was [[HiddenPurposeTest exactly what the administration wanted]]. Most army commanders start resenting Ender for his unending string of victories. Bonzo in particular keeps claiming that the teachers are rigging the game in ''Ender'''s favor. Only an idiot would believe that, that[[note]]Bonzo isn't an idiot, no one in Battle School is, but he is blinded by pride and hatred of Ender[[/note]], given all the advantages the other armies get.
18th Nov '17 5:55:12 AM Omeganian
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* In ''Fanfic/ProjectDelta'', once Jortan returns to his masters after the battle of Mindoir, he expects to be punished for failure. However, with them having other plans, all it takes is a tiny bit of indoctrination to make him "remember" the objective wasn't killing Jane, but merely removing the weaklings from their own organization.
10th Nov '17 11:40:29 AM ZimFan89
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* In ''Fanfic/AManOfIron'', after Bronn defeats Ser Vardis to win Tyrion's TrialByCombat, Lysa suddenly declares Tyrion must immediately endure a ''second'' trial by combat for a separate charge, and Bronn cannot champion him anymore. Clynt takes up the challenge and simply [[CombatPragmatist shoots Lysa's second champion with an arrow]], finally winning Tyrion's freedom.
17th Oct '17 8:08:40 AM thatother1dude
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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', this is more or less Nami's backstory. Arlong forced her to amass a very large sum of money to buy back her village's freedom. When she finally does (a process that takes her several years), he gets a corrupt Marine buddy of his to confiscate it before she can officially pay him back, and tells her to start from scratch. Fortunately for Nami, Luffy and his crew decide to [[RightMakesMight beat the everloving tar out of Arlong and his men]].

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', this is more or less Nami's backstory. ''Manga/OnePiece'': Arlong forced her Nami to amass a very large sum of money to buy back her village's freedom. When she finally does (a process that takes her several years), he gets a corrupt Marine buddy of his to confiscate it before she can officially pay him back, and tells her to start from scratch. Fortunately for Nami, Luffy and his crew decide to [[RightMakesMight beat the everloving tar out of Arlong and his men]].
17th Oct '17 8:07:28 AM thatother1dude
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* In ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', a village hosts a race: whoever arrives first wins an all-expenses-paid trip to a spring resort of their choosing (including the Cursed Springs that gave the main character his curse and also has the cure). However, the village doesn't actually ''have'' the money to pay for the trip, so they place increasingly dangerous obstacles on the course to dissuade everyone from finishing, finally resorting, when everything else fails, to Moving The Goalposts; in this case, two villagers lift the goal and carry it away from the approaching racers.

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* In ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', a village hosts a race: whoever arrives first wins an all-expenses-paid trip to a spring resort of their choosing (including the Cursed Springs that gave the main character his curse and also has the cure). However, the village doesn't actually ''have'' the money to pay for the trip, so they place increasingly dangerous obstacles on the course to dissuade everyone from finishing, finally resorting, when everything else fails, to Moving The Goalposts; in this case, two villagers lift literally lifting the goal and carry it away from the approaching racers.
16th Oct '17 7:22:56 PM BattleMaster
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* Mercenary players are warned of this as a possible screw-job tactic by unscrupulous employers in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech''. In an effort to save money, some employers may claim that mercenaries 'failed to do their utmost' even if the mercenary unit successfully completed their mission (for instance, claiming that mercenaries failed a defensive mission by not [[KillEmAll killing or destroying every enemy on the field]] even when they drove off the opponent and kept their objective safe).

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* Mercenary players are warned of this as a possible screw-job tactic by unscrupulous employers in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech''. In an effort to save money, some employers may claim that mercenaries 'failed to do their utmost' even if the mercenary unit successfully completed their mission (for instance, claiming that mercenaries failed a defensive mission by not [[KillEmAll killing or destroying every enemy on the field]] even when they drove off the opponent and kept their objective safe). Frustration over this led to the formation of the [[NGOSuperpower Mercenary Review and Bonding Commission]], which oversaw contracts and offered neutral arbitration in the event of disputes. Unfortunately for mercenaries, the Word of Blake Jihad resulted in the MRCB's destruction.
15th Oct '17 3:52:42 PM CASCHero
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* An episode of ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'' with shades of VerySpecialEpisode had Will and Carlton pledging for a fraternity. The leader takes an instant dislike to Carlton and begins singling him out by making the tasks specifically difficult for him. Will tries to tell Carlton that he shouldn't let them treat him like this but [[{{Determinator}} Carlton pushes through them all because he's so desperate for membership]]. In the end, Carlton completes all the tasks but the leader still refuses his membership, leading to Will giving up his membership in disgust and a more reasonable senior member suggesting the leader be removed.

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* An episode of ''Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir'' with shades of VerySpecialEpisode had Will and Carlton pledging for a fraternity. The leader takes an instant dislike to Carlton (as he's from a well off family which the leader considers as a sell out) and begins singling him out by making the tasks specifically difficult for him. Will tries to tell Carlton that he shouldn't let them treat him like this but [[{{Determinator}} Carlton pushes through them all because he's so desperate for membership]]. In the end, Carlton completes all the tasks but the leader still refuses his membership, leading to Will giving up his membership in disgust disgust, Carlton calling the man out on his bigotry and a more reasonable senior member suggesting telling the leader be current one one that he plans to get the university committee to have him removed.
11th Oct '17 11:07:16 PM DrOO7
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* The members of the ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'' put Mallory through numerous pointless trials so that she can join. Fed up with their unfair treatment, she quits, making them realize that they've been acting like jerks. Similarly, in a ''Sweet Valley Twins'' edition, Jessica bullies a girl who wants to be a member of the Unicorns by giving her impossible tasks to complete, to the point where even the ringleaders of the group tell her she's taking things too far. Sure enough, the girl finally grows a spine and tells her off.

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* The members of the ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'' put Mallory through numerous pointless trials so that she can join. Fed up with their unfair treatment, she quits, making them realize that they've been acting like jerks.
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Similarly, in a ''Sweet ''[[Literature/SweetValleyHigh Sweet Valley Twins'' edition, Twins]]'' book, Jessica bullies a girl who wants to be a member of the Unicorns by giving her impossible tasks to complete, to the point where even the ringleaders of the group tell her she's taking things too far. Sure enough, the girl finally grows a spine and tells her off.
10th Oct '17 4:11:01 AM bwburke94
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** The novel ''Literature/KobayashiMaru'' goes into enough detail of the progression of the test (especially in Chekhov's and Scott's experience with it) to reveal that it's one long series of Moving The Goalposts on the part of the administering [=AI=]. No matter what the cadet taking it does, the AI will add something more that they have to beat. Defeat one Klingon cruiser? Two more show up. Beat them? Four more. Somehow beat them? Well, hi there, Klingon Dreadnought, fancy meeting you here...

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** The novel ''Literature/KobayashiMaru'' goes into enough detail of the progression of the test (especially in Chekhov's Chekov's and Scott's experience with it) to reveal that it's one long series of Moving The Goalposts on the part of the administering [=AI=]. No matter what the cadet taking it does, the AI will add something more that they have to beat. Defeat one Klingon cruiser? Two more show up. Beat them? Four more. Somehow beat them? Well, hi there, Klingon Dreadnought, fancy meeting you here...
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