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20th Apr '18 8:13:57 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* Hypnotism only works if the planned subject is ''willing'' to go along with being hypnotised, and the subject will only go along with the hypnotist's suggestions if they ''want'' to do whatever the hypnotist tries to "make" them do.

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* Hypnotism only works if the planned subject is ''willing'' to go along with being hypnotised, and even when under hypnosis, the subject will only go along with the hypnotist's suggestions if they ''want'' to do whatever the hypnotist tries to "make" them do.
20th Apr '18 8:12:31 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* Hypnotism only works if the planned subject is ''willing'' to go along with hypnotised, and the subject will only go along with the hypnotist's suggestions if they ''want'' to do whatever the hypnotist tries to "make" them do.

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* Hypnotism only works if the planned subject is ''willing'' to go along with being hypnotised, and the subject will only go along with the hypnotist's suggestions if they ''want'' to do whatever the hypnotist tries to "make" them do.
3rd Apr '18 3:28:42 AM JackG
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* ''ComicBook/Batwoman''. Almost immediately after breaking up with Maggie, Kate Kane was hypnotized into an abusive sexual relationship with the vampire Nocturna. Kate had multiple blackouts during this time, implying she was raped repeatedly. After Kate was freed of the hypnosis (with the help of Red Alice/Beth Kane, her twin sister), Nocturna claimed that subconsciously Kate wanted to have sex with her and [[EvilGloating gloats]] [[KickTheDog how she (Nocturna) enjoyed it]].

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* ''ComicBook/Batwoman''.''ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}''. Almost immediately after breaking up with Maggie, Kate Kane was hypnotized into an abusive sexual relationship with the vampire Nocturna. Kate had multiple blackouts during this time, implying she was raped repeatedly. After Kate was freed of the hypnosis (with the help of Red Alice/Beth Kane, her twin sister), Nocturna claimed that subconsciously Kate wanted to have sex with her and [[EvilGloating gloats]] [[KickTheDog how she (Nocturna) enjoyed it]].
3rd Apr '18 3:28:07 AM JackG
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* ''ComicBook/Batwoman''. Almost immediately after breaking up with Maggie, Kate Kane was hypnotized into an abusive sexual relationship with the vampire Nocturna. Kate had multiple blackouts during this time, implying she was raped repeatedly. After Kate was freed of the hypnosis (with the help of Red Alice/Beth Kane, her twin sister), Nocturna claimed that subconsciously Kate wanted to have sex with her and [[EvilGloating gloats]] [[KickTheDog how she (Nocturna) enjoyed it]].
-->'''Batwoman''': "So, ''none'' of it was true? You don't... love me?"\\
'''Nocturna''': "Love you? I don't even ''like'' you. You were just so easy to snare. All your broken-hearted martyr-complex self-loathing... it was like a neon sign flashing ' ''Over here!'' ' I couldn't resist."\\
'''Batwoman''': "You used your powers to ''make'' me sleep with you?"\\
'''Nocturna''': I bet you ''wish'' that were true. No, Kate. That was all you. I'm no ''rapist''. You wanted me, so I figured 'I haven't done this since college, [[SureWhyNot so why not]]? You ''are'' sexy, after all. Damaged, yes, but so much fun. You wanted something raw, a lesbian ''Sid and Nancy'' thing. Kinky, yes? But that was all ''yours''."\\
'''Batwoman''': "[[YouMonster You... monster]]."\\
'''Nocturna''': "[[InsultBackfire Maybe]], but all I did was find an open door in your head. All the interior decorating in that room? ''Yours''."\\
'''Batwoman''': "[[FreakOut AAAHH!!!]]"\\
'''Nocturna''': "What's the matter, ''Katey''? ''Disgusted'' by your own subconscious?"
1st Apr '18 2:12:30 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* Hypnotism only works if the person ''wants'' the change to happen or if the person ''wants'' to do whatever the hypnotist "makes" them do.

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* Hypnotism only works if the person ''wants'' planned subject is ''willing'' to go along with hypnotised, and the change to happen or if subject will only go along with the person ''wants'' hypnotist's suggestions if they ''want'' to do whatever the hypnotist "makes" tries to "make" them do.
31st Mar '18 11:13:00 PM Arha
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* Dark magic in ''LightNovel/DestructionFlagOtome'' can be used to control emotions, but the emphasis is on ''control.'' While it can heighten feelings like hatred or envy those feelings have to be there to begin with. Since Katarina feels no jealousy towards Maria, the dark magician who wants to drive Katarina away can't destroy her reputation and get her expelled by making her bully Maria.
28th Mar '18 4:25:06 AM annieholmes
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* Theatre/{{Elisabeth}}: Varies with each production and particular actors, though the general consensus is that Death exerts this over Rudolf. The difference lies in how much, and whether Rudolf was in full control of himself when [[spoiler:he committed suicide.]] Some productions have Rudolf actively resisting Death during their seduction duet (German), some have him actively pursuing Death (Japan, both Takarazuka and Toho).
14th Mar '18 8:42:14 PM Qrow
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The BigBad's powers work something like this, targeting people who are feeling extremely angry, sad, or otherwise emotional, and offering them the power to get what they want in return for stealing the [[TransformationTrinket Miraculouses]], thus turning them into the VillainOfTheWeek. It's not a perfect method though. The villains he creates have been known to ignore or argue with his orders in favor of pursuing their own agendas, and [[spoiler: Robostus turns on him outright to try and take the Miraculouses for himself]].
8th Mar '18 5:04:29 PM costanton11
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* Masuken and Teru in ''Manga/DigimonDCyber'', initially hooked with [=MetalPhantomon's=] promise of giving them super powers and then playing on their insecurities from there.

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* Masuken and Teru in ''Manga/DigimonDCyber'', ''Manhua/DigimonDCyber'', initially hooked with [=MetalPhantomon's=] promise of giving them super powers and then playing on their insecurities from there.
27th Feb '18 1:39:00 PM ScribeRetro
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* Zigzagged with Arthas in ''Series/Warcraft'' [[DependingOnTheWriter depending on the writer]]. ''Warcraft III'' establishes that Arthas lost his sanity and had his soul claimed by picking up Frostmourne, yet the Silver Hand paladins act as though he willingly betrayed his people. ''Rise of the Lich King'' clearly depicts Arthas in the moment his soul is claimed by Frostmourne, with Ner'zhul's whispers directing his action. Conversely, the same novel suggests that Arthas was capable of independent thought and rationalizing his actions as being his choice. The question of just how mind controlled Arthas was is left ambiguous, likely on purpose, but Ner'zhul seemed to deliberately give Arthas more autonomy to let him think he was in control, as opposed to the situation Sylvanas or other Forsaken were in.
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