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8th Dec '17 8:42:55 AM V1nd1ctus
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* Izuru Kamukura from ''SuperDanganRonpa2''. Once a teenager named [[spoiler:Hajime Hinata]], he [[spoiler:decided to help Hope's Peak, not knowing it would be a surgery that would [[{{AmnesiacDissonance}} wipe his memory and personality]] for the sake of talent.]]
** It's heavily implied that the mastermind took his resentment and despair to turn him to her side, manipulating him to extremes.

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* Izuru Kamukura from ''SuperDanganRonpa2''.''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2''. Once a teenager named [[spoiler:Hajime Hinata]], he [[spoiler:decided to help Hope's Peak, not knowing it would be a surgery that would [[{{AmnesiacDissonance}} wipe his memory and personality]] for the sake of talent.]]
]] In ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' it is revealed that he did this to join his Ultimate Gamer friend Chiaki Nanami and her class and feel equal to her.
** It's heavily implied that the mastermind took his resentment and despair to turn him to her side, manipulating him to extremes.
***This is then proved wrong later in the series (but chronologically earlier) as in ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' it is shown that Izuru Kamakura almost never down right helped the mastermind but was more of an observer and his real reason for not stoping them was because he was interested in what would be more unpredictable and win in the end; hope or despair?
6th Dec '17 3:48:29 PM Benthelame
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*''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' is heavily implied to have an example in the form of Queen Eclipsa. Having [[spoiler: been released from her CrystalPrison following Toffee's death.]] She does little more than hang around the castle garden and feed birds but after Star has the slightest interaction with her, Queen Moon expresses great alarm and even considers going back on her promise stating that while Eclipsa may seem extremely convincing, she can get into your mind and "make you do things you don't want to do." She adds that if Star waits to find out the truth for herself, It'll be too late. Add in the fact that Star has been relying more and more on advice given by Eclipsa and it's pretty hard to deny.
24th Nov '17 11:16:41 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'', in the origin story of Ken. How much of his behavior as the Kaiser was a result of the spore's influence, how much was due to the trauma of his past and how much was just him going control freak on a [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential world that he didn't think was real]], is still up for debate.

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* ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'', in the origin story of Ken. How much of his behavior as the Kaiser was a result of the spore's influence, how much was due to the trauma of his past and how much was just him going control freak ControlFreak on a [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential world that he didn't think was real]], is still up for debate.



* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'': In "All Chalked Up", a disguised HIM gives Bubbles magic chalk that allows her drawings to come to life. He manipulates her by reminding her of when Buttercup shashed her old chalk not too long ago and encouraging her to let her anger out by drawing giant monsters, which then come to life and go on a rampage.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'': In "All Chalked Up", a disguised HIM gives Bubbles magic chalk that allows her drawings to come to life. He manipulates her by reminding her of when Buttercup shashed smashed her old chalk not too long ago and encouraging her to let her anger out by drawing giant monsters, which then come to life and go on a rampage.


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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'': Barbara Gordon is subject to this in "Eyewitness"; while [[MasterOfIllusion Spellbinder]] ''did'' cast an illusion on Barbara to make her think that she saw Batman kill Mad Stan in cold blood, even he points out that [[InspectorJavert Barbara's own biases towards Batman]] did most of the work for him—as he's being arrested, he even takes the time to gloat about it right to her face:
-->'''Spellbinder''': You were ''so'' ready to believe the worst, it was ''easy''.
11th Nov '17 7:36:48 PM NightShade96
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* This is the entire point of the [[ComicBook/NewGods Anti-Life Equation]]. It's not just a mind-control formula: it's a ''logical proof'' that free will is inherently paradoxical and meaningless, and that the only real meaning in life is to serve {{Darkseid}} and his will.
* In ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' story ''Comicbook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'', Comicbook/{{Darkseid}} kidnaps and brainwashes Supergirl. After being rescued, Kara fears that her brainwashed, evil self is her real self. [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Her cousin]] reassures her, thought. Playing mind tricks is Darkseid’s child's play. And he trusts her.

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* This is the entire point of the [[ComicBook/NewGods Anti-Life Equation]]. It's not just a mind-control formula: it's a ''logical proof'' that free will is inherently paradoxical and meaningless, and that the only real meaning in life is to serve {{Darkseid}} ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} and his will.
* In ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' the ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' story ''Comicbook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'', Comicbook/{{Darkseid}} ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} kidnaps and brainwashes Supergirl. After being rescued, Kara fears that her brainwashed, evil self is her real self. [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Her cousin]] reassures her, thought.though. Playing mind tricks is Darkseid’s child's play. And he trusts her.
5th Nov '17 8:59:57 AM armogohma
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* In TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'s ''Curse of the Crimson Throne'', about halfway through the campaign it is revealed that [[spoiler: Queen Ileosa]] has been possessed by the spirit of an ancient dragon named Kazavon. [[spoiler: Except she really hasn't. While many of the other characters think this is the case, in truth Kazavon has very little control over her, and simply encouraged her to go through with the plans that she'd always wanted to execute, but didn't have the power or confidence to go through with. Kazavon doesn't really mind, [[PsychoForHire so long as he can cause misery and destruction]].]]

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* In TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'s ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'''s ''Curse of the Crimson Throne'', about halfway through the campaign it is revealed that [[spoiler: Queen Ileosa]] has been possessed by the spirit of an ancient dragon named Kazavon. [[spoiler: Except she really hasn't. While many of the other characters think this is the case, in truth Kazavon has very little control over her, and simply encouraged her to go through with the plans that she'd always wanted to execute, but didn't have the power or confidence to go through with. Kazavon doesn't really mind, [[PsychoForHire so long as he can cause misery and destruction]].]]]]
* A simple matter of practicality in ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}''. A Mind Control roll of the target's Ego+30 can make them do anything, but you have to choose your command before you roll, so you are more likely to succeed the more inclined the target is to do what you're telling them to do.
22nd Oct '17 8:14:20 AM SenorCornholio
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* Nene's relationship with [=DarkKnightmon=] [[=AxeKnightmon=]] in ''Anime/DigimonXrosWars'' has shades of this. Dark Knightmon is pretty...well...dark. He certainly doesn't seem to have Nene's best interests at heart, which is apparent to anyone watching. [[spoiler: It's revealed in episode 19 that she only works with him because she believes he's the only one who could get her and her brother out of the Digital World]]

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* Nene's relationship with [=DarkKnightmon=] [[=AxeKnightmon=]] in ''Anime/DigimonXrosWars'' has shades of this. Dark Knightmon [=DarkKnightmon=] is pretty...well...dark. He certainly doesn't seem to have Nene's best interests at heart, which is apparent to anyone watching. [[spoiler: It's revealed in episode 19 that she only works with him because she believes he's the only one who could get her and her brother out of the Digital World]]
22nd Oct '17 8:13:38 AM SenorCornholio
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* Nene's relationship with Dark Knightmon in ''Anime/DigimonXrosWars'' has shades of this. Dark Knightmon is pretty...well...dark. He certainly doesn't seem to have Nene's best interests at heart, which is apparent to anyone watching. [[spoiler: It's revealed in episode 19 that she only works with him because she believes he's the only one who could get her and her brother out of the Digital World]]

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* Nene's relationship with Dark Knightmon [=DarkKnightmon=] [[=AxeKnightmon=]] in ''Anime/DigimonXrosWars'' has shades of this. Dark Knightmon is pretty...well...dark. He certainly doesn't seem to have Nene's best interests at heart, which is apparent to anyone watching. [[spoiler: It's revealed in episode 19 that she only works with him because she believes he's the only one who could get her and her brother out of the Digital World]]
9th Oct '17 10:36:24 PM Lanes17B
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* In ''Film/WonderWoman'', Ares tells Diana that although he wants [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans destroy humanity because they are too corrupt to inhabit the earth,]] he doesn't need to kill them himself. All he has to do is give humanity an inspiration to create a new weapon, or give their leaders an excuse to fight, and they willingly go into a destructive war with one another, and not stop until it ends.
24th Sep '17 4:55:37 AM pointycatears
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* Abusers often do this to their victims, convincing them that they are {{Asshole Victim}}s who deserve their mistreatment.
** Or, alternatively, rapists that use natural body reactions (such as a women's vagina being lubricated) to convince the victim that she enjoyed it to keep her from claiming it was rape.

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* Abusers often do this to their victims, convincing them that they are {{Asshole Victim}}s who deserve their mistreatment.
mistreatment. They also [[NeverMyFault deny that they are in the wrong]], convincing the victim that they're doing wrong instead.
** Or, alternatively, rapists that use natural body reactions (such as a women's vagina being lubricated) to convince the victim [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization that she enjoyed it to keep her from claiming it was rape.rape]].
7th Sep '17 8:48:22 AM CosmicFerret
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* Gorilla Grodd uses this in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', using his psychic powers to exacerbate the heroes' latent distrust and jealousy to split them up. When TheFlash takes this as an excuse to say none of them meant any of it, ComicBook/MartianManhunter corrects him - they meant every word, even if they wouldn't normally have said it out loud. It also has the side effect of making John / GL [[WillTheyOrWontThey blurt out that he'd give his life for Shayera.]]

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* Gorilla Grodd uses this in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', using his psychic powers to exacerbate the heroes' latent distrust and jealousy to split them up. When TheFlash ComicBook/TheFlash takes this as an excuse to say none of them meant any of it, ComicBook/MartianManhunter corrects him - they meant every word, even if they wouldn't normally have said it out loud. It also has the side effect of making John / GL [[WillTheyOrWontThey blurt out that he'd give his life for Shayera.]]
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