History Main / MoreThanMindControl

2nd Aug '17 5:51:15 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


What makes this "more than mind control" rather than simple [[ManipulativeBastard manipulation]] is that this can still be ''assisted'' by magic or technology. [[TheDarkSide Magic forces may be at work]], but it's really the despair, trickery, lies, and sometimes even [[ExactWords carefully-selected]] [[MetaphoricallyTrue truths]], that are thrown in that successfully break the victim's spirit. Instead of the villain forcing a victim to do something against their will, the villain ''changes'' the victim's will. It's DealWithTheDevil [[XMeetsY meets]] BreakThemByTalking. This can even be justified depending on the setting; a very common limitation on mind control across many different works (for example ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'') is that the would-be-controller simply cannot induce an idea or a command into the victim that is either completely alien to their mind or goes against their base instincts. Much like a body's immune system will fight against a virus or a bacteria, the mind in-question will recognize the thought as a foreign object and will resist or even completely reject it.

to:

What makes this "more than mind control" rather than simple [[ManipulativeBastard manipulation]] is that this can still be ''assisted'' by magic or technology. [[TheDarkSide Magic forces may be at work]], but it's really the despair, trickery, lies, and sometimes even [[ExactWords carefully-selected]] [[MetaphoricallyTrue truths]], that are thrown in that successfully break the victim's spirit. Instead of the villain forcing a victim to do something against their will, the villain ''changes'' the victim's will. It's DealWithTheDevil [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] BreakThemByTalking. This can even be justified depending on the setting; a very common limitation on mind control across many different works (for example ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'') is that the would-be-controller simply cannot induce an idea or a command into the victim that is either completely alien to their mind or goes against their base instincts. Much like a body's immune system will fight against a virus or a bacteria, the mind in-question will recognize the thought as a foreign object and will resist or even completely reject it.
29th Jul '17 5:01:31 PM LovePsychothefirst
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''FanFic/{{Forward}}'' this is how [[EmotionBomb Inducers]] work; they take emotions, impulses people already have and build on them. One that has a particular importance to the plot (Inducer One-One-Nine aka [[spoiler: [[EnfanteTerrible Katie]]]] out right says [[spoiler: she]] can't make anyone do anything they don't have some ability or desire to, even if it's deep down inside. It just makes the MindRape Inducer One-One-Nine does even more horrifying.
27th Jul '17 12:42:13 PM LovePsychothefirst
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' this is how Curse Slots work; they agitate hidden emotions and memories, using them to manipulate the one marked with it. [[spoiler: This puts the fact Guy has been attacking Luke, and only Luke, when the Curse Slot is active in a very dark light. It ultimately turns out he originally came to the Fabre Manor for a RevengeByProxy plan and does, still deep inside, bear the grudge against the Fabre House that makes him want to kill Luke. That said, he's [[TookALevelInKindness changed]] since then and his [[HeterosexualLifePartners friendship]] with Luke is genuine now.]]
23rd Jul '17 2:48:31 AM Piterpicher
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''[[TheHalfbloodChronicles Elvenborn]]'', this is Aelmarkin's favorite pasttime. He picks his favorite concubine, deliberately picked to be easily duped and manipulated, and tricks them into believing that he is eternally kind, loving, and right... and then uses that belief to deliberately destroy their self-esteem and mental faculties, until they're anorexic-bulimics starving and purging themselves in a desperate attempt to be 'beautiful' even as he pretends to be concerned for their well-being and asking them to eat more. If he's feeling particularly generous, when they're near death he'll memory-wipe them and have them retrained as normal concubines again.

to:

* In ''[[TheHalfbloodChronicles ''[[Literature/TheHalfbloodChronicles Elvenborn]]'', this is Aelmarkin's favorite pasttime. He picks his favorite concubine, deliberately picked to be easily duped and manipulated, and tricks them into believing that he is eternally kind, loving, and right... and then uses that belief to deliberately destroy their self-esteem and mental faculties, until they're anorexic-bulimics starving and purging themselves in a desperate attempt to be 'beautiful' even as he pretends to be concerned for their well-being and asking them to eat more. If he's feeling particularly generous, when they're near death he'll memory-wipe them and have them retrained as normal concubines again.
16th Jul '17 5:50:44 PM lalalei2001
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''Anime/YuGiOhTheMoviePyramidOfLight'', Kaiba isn't outright possessed by Anubis, but he is nudged into following his orders by thinking they're his own thoughts.
28th Jun '17 6:12:52 PM redandready45
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''FanFic/HerInnerDemons'': Human Twilight reveals that [[TraumaCongaLine the bullying and abuse]] she received during [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames the movie]] was [[CorruptTheCutie turning her power hungry]]. [[spoiler: Once she gained power after unleashing the magic, it was easy for her to become power hungry and transform into Midnight Sparkle]].

to:

* ''FanFic/HerInnerDemons'': Human Twilight reveals that [[TraumaCongaLine the bullying and abuse]] she received during [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames the movie]] was [[CorruptTheCutie turning her power hungry]]. [[spoiler: Once she gained power after unleashing the magic, it was easy for her dark side to consume her and become power hungry and transform into Midnight Sparkle]].
28th Jun '17 4:22:28 PM redandready45
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''FanFic/HerInnerDemons'': Human Twilight reveals that [[TraumaCongaLine the bullying and abuse]] she received during [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames the movie]] was [[CorruptTheCutie turning her power hungry]]. [[spoiler: Once she gained power after unleashing the magic, it was easy for her to become power hungry and transform into Midnight Sparkle]].
25th Jun '17 8:49:30 PM Nintendoman01
Is there an issue? Send a Message
25th Jun '17 8:49:16 PM Nintendoman01
Is there an issue? Send a Message
25th Jun '17 8:49:14 PM Nintendoman01
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* ''ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog'': [[EvilSorcerer Ixis Naugus]] is able to generate a HatePlague to turn people against each other, doing so to drive the Mobians and [[UnwillingRoboticisation Robians]] to civil war, and later to turn the citizens of New Mobotropolis against NICOLE. Naugus himself states that he doesn't create said HatePlague on its own; he merely amplifies emotions that are already there.


Added DiffLines:

** Spike himself pulls this off in Season 4, exploiting the existing tensions within the Scooby Gang (Buffy's intense focus on her newfound relationship with Riley, Giles' feelings of uselessness, Xander's lack of direction, and Willow's recent gay relationship with Tara) in order to DivideAndConquer. As he himself points out, he didn't create said tensions, he just exploited them.
This list shows the last 10 events of 259. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.MoreThanMindControl