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22nd Jan '18 1:46:37 AM Silverblade2
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* "[[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker John Doe]]" from ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTellTaleSeries'' combines TheSociopath with PsychopathicManchild, but the two things he views as genuinely ''wrong'' are [[UndyingLoyalty betraying a friend]] and [[FelonyMisdemeanor being rude]]. Of all the things you can do to him, the one thing that seems to genuinely cross him is "rudely" putting a tracking device on him.

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* "[[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker "[[ComicBook/TheJoker John Doe]]" from ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTellTaleSeries'' combines TheSociopath with PsychopathicManchild, but the two things he views as genuinely ''wrong'' are [[UndyingLoyalty betraying a friend]] and [[FelonyMisdemeanor being rude]]. Of all the things you can do to him, the one thing that seems to genuinely cross him is "rudely" putting a tracking device on him.
14th Dec '17 5:20:54 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted with Hrathen in ''{{Elantris}}'', who seems like a religious fanatic at first, but turns out to be one of the more reasonable antagonists and goes through crippling guilt for his actions -- he supports his theocratic religion because he believes it is too logical and well-organized to be wrong [[spoiler:and turns against it when it ''stops'' behaving logically]]. [[spoiler:Played straight with Dilaf, who is such a fanatic and has such a serious case of FantasticRacism for the Elantrians that he can justify any atrocity]].

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* Subverted with Hrathen in ''{{Elantris}}'', ''Literature/{{Elantris}}'', who seems like a religious fanatic at first, but turns out to be one of the more reasonable antagonists and goes through crippling guilt for his actions -- he supports his theocratic religion because he believes it is too logical and well-organized to be wrong [[spoiler:and turns against it when it ''stops'' behaving logically]]. [[spoiler:Played straight with Dilaf, who is such a fanatic and has such a serious case of FantasticRacism for the Elantrians that he can justify any atrocity]].
10th Dec '17 10:19:51 AM gophergiggles
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* "[[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker John Doe]]" from ''VideoGame/BatmanTheTellTaleSeries'' combines TheSociopath with PsychopathicManchild, but the two things he views as genuinely ''wrong'' are [[UndyingLoyalty betraying a friend]] and [[FelonyMisdemeanor being rude]]. Of all the things you can do to him, the one thing that seems to genuinely cross him is "rudely" putting a tracking device on him.
6th Dec '17 2:14:28 AM cdenton
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* The Rani, from ''Series/DoctorWho'' and its extended universe. Unlike another former classmate of the Doctor's-turned-Time Lord renegade, The Master, The Rani dislikes needless violence and exercising power over others for its own sake. She'll even help people who are in danger when it doesn't benefit her. She genuinely sees herself as working toward scientific knowledge and at one point thinks an entire planet she's been experimenting on will benefit in the long-term from her actions. It's just that her quest for knowledge tends to benefit her and inflict ''tremendous'' suffering on beings she considers lesser species (which, naturally, would be any species that isn't Gallifreyan). Nor does she really understand the Doctor's ethics. In the Big Finish audio ''The Rani Elite'', when the Doctor is angry when she [[MercyKill kills a man who is trapped in a decaying body as a direct result of her experiments]], she's genuinely taken aback that the Doctor isn't instead praising her for her compassion.

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* The Rani, from ''Series/DoctorWho'' and its extended universe. Unlike another former classmate of the Doctor's-turned-Time Lord renegade, The Master, The Rani dislikes needless violence and exercising power over others for its own sake. She'll even help people who are in danger when it doesn't benefit her. She genuinely sees herself as working toward scientific knowledge and at one point thinks an entire planet she's been experimenting on will benefit in the long-term from her actions. It's just that her quest for knowledge tends to benefit her and inflict while inflicting ''tremendous'' suffering on beings she considers lesser species (which, naturally, would be any species that isn't Gallifreyan). Nor does she really understand the Doctor's ethics. In the Big Finish audio ''The Rani Elite'', when the Doctor is angry when she [[MercyKill kills a man who is trapped in a decaying body as a direct result of her experiments]], she's genuinely taken aback that the Doctor isn't instead praising her for her compassion.
6th Dec '17 2:13:09 AM cdenton
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*The Rani, from ''Series/DoctorWho'' and its extended universe. Unlike another former classmate of the Doctor's-turned-Time Lord renegade, The Master, The Rani dislikes needless violence and exercising power over others for its own sake. She'll even help people who are in danger when it doesn't benefit her. She genuinely sees herself as working toward scientific knowledge and at one point thinks an entire planet she's been experimenting on will benefit in the long-term from her actions. It's just that her quest for knowledge tends to benefit her and inflict ''tremendous'' suffering on beings she considers lesser species (which, naturally, would be any species that isn't Gallifreyan). Nor does she really understand the Doctor's ethics. In the Big Finish audio ''The Rani Elite'', when the Doctor is angry when she [[MercyKill kills a man who is trapped in a decaying body as a direct result of her experiments]], she's genuinely taken aback that the Doctor isn't instead praising her for her compassion.
14th Nov '17 3:10:00 AM IchigoMontoya
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Sociopaths are essentially the human version of AlwaysChaoticEvil in media. Since we consider morality to be good, they are naturally depicted as selfish and immoral.

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Sociopaths [[TheSociopath Sociopaths]] are essentially the human version of AlwaysChaoticEvil in media. Since we consider morality to be good, they are naturally depicted as selfish and immoral.
13th Oct '17 3:55:05 AM Euodiachloris
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Bronn. He makes no bones about it: He does [[PrivateMilitaryContractors his job]] to the best of his abilities, whatever it might [[PunchClockVillain currently]] [[PunchClockHero entail]] as part of the agreed package. All while maintaining a professional and personable demeanour to all and sundry where suitable. But outside the job? [[ItsAllAboutMe He comes first]]. [[NothingPersonal Always]]. He seems to find it somewhat disagreeable when people mistreat those he regards as having more worth (or just a load more bad luck) than society deems them to have. But, [[LackOfEmpathy he won't actually step in to act on their behalf]] unless there is something for him to gain by it. There is very little he is unwilling to do for the right price, but the more distasteful (or dangerous) he finds the act, the more money or concessions you'll have to pony up. Oh, and don't try insulting him by suggesting he go against his underlying "[[HonestyIsTheBestPolicy keep it honest; keep in business]]" code for enough recompense: no dice.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Bronn. He makes no bones about it: He does [[PrivateMilitaryContractors his job]] to the best of his abilities, whatever it might [[PunchClockVillain currently]] [[PunchClockHero entail]] as part of the agreed package. All while maintaining a professional and personable demeanour to all and sundry where suitable. But outside the job? [[ItsAllAboutMe He comes first]]. [[NothingPersonal Always]]. He seems to find it somewhat disagreeable when people mistreat those he regards as having more worth (or just a load more bad luck) than society deems them to have. But, [[LackOfEmpathy he won't actually step in to act on their behalf]] unless there is [[OnlyInItForTheMoney something for him to gain by it.it]]. There is very little he is unwilling to do for the right price, but the more distasteful (or dangerous) he finds the act, the more money or concessions you'll have to pony up. Oh, and don't try insulting him by suggesting he go against his underlying "[[HonestyIsTheBestPolicy keep it honest; honest]]; [[ConsummateProfessional keep in business]]" code for enough recompense: no dice.
31st Aug '17 8:45:13 PM BurgerLord
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Zamasu, the ArcVillain of the Future Trunks Saga, truly and honestly believes that mortals are foolish and dangerous creatures that can challenge the gods and should be destroyed for the good of the universe. When [[spoiler:he tries to kill Gowasu for his earrings, he freely admits that what he's doing is evil, but he believes that [[NecessarilyEvil said evil will lead to a greater good]].]]

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Zamasu, [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Zamasu]], the ArcVillain of the Future Trunks Saga, truly and honestly believes that mortals are foolish and dangerous creatures that can challenge the gods and should be destroyed for the good of the universe. When [[spoiler:he tries to kill Gowasu for his earrings, he freely admits that what he's doing is evil, but he believes that [[NecessarilyEvil said evil will lead to a greater good]].]]
19th Aug '17 11:42:12 PM gophergiggles
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* [[TheDragon ThePrincess]] from ''FanFic/BadFutureCrusaders'' has one of these just barely concealed by her [[AffablyEvil affable nature]], as best seen when she politely claims lying is wrong while calmly ''strangling Silver Spoon to death'':
--> '''The Princess:''' It did not have to end like this, but no matter. I would say it was nice knowing you, but quite frankly that would be a lie, which is wrong.
14th May '17 1:53:24 AM SkidTroper
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