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13th Jan '18 11:47:19 AM Jeduthun
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** From the ''Literature/BookOfProverbs'':
--> "Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the Lord weighs the hearts." (Proverbs 21:2)
3rd Jan '18 8:41:40 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'': The episode "Girls Gone Mild" displays this perfectly with Stanley and Sandra Practice, two MoralGuardians who, fearing that the Girls' style of crime fighting may be a bad influence on children, force them to stop using their powers, threatening to sue Professor Utonium if they do so. Even as the crime rate in Townsville rises with the Girls unable to intervene, the Practices refuse to rescind the contract... until the villains come after ''them''.
31st Dec '17 4:18:26 PM Stealth
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** Word of Blake (a splinter faction of the techno-theocratic Comstar with the 'religious fervor' side turned UpToEleven) grabbed this trope and ran with it in their time after the split with Comstar, leaving Comstar as the larger, more secular branch. It's lies when Comstar edits the truth to suit their needs, but 'the true perspective' when the Word of Blake does it. It really puts their later Jihad into perspective: a holy crusade bring the universe to its proper order to the Word of Blake, but a violently omnicidal temper tantrum as thrown by religious fanatics to ''everyone else in existence''.
30th Nov '17 11:16:53 AM Eddy1215
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** In a Famous Studios cartoon, Popeye is the butt of several increasingly cruel April Fools Day pranks brought on by Bluto. Whenever Popeye got angry, Olive would accuse him of not having a sense of humor. Bluto later played a prank of Olive and set Popeye to take the blame. [[{{Hypocrite}} Suddenly, it wasn't very funny.]]

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** In a Famous Studios cartoon, Popeye is the butt of several increasingly cruel April Fools Day pranks brought on by Bluto. Whenever Popeye got angry, Olive would accuse him of not having a sense of humor. Bluto later played a prank of on Olive and set Popeye to take the blame. [[{{Hypocrite}} Suddenly, it wasn't very funny.]]
24th Nov '17 2:38:42 PM infernape612
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* In ''VideoGame/DmCDevilMayCry'', Mundus is absolutely ''pissed'' when Dante and Vergil kill his [[spoiler: unborn heir]] and flat-out asks why Dante did it. Never mind that Mundus himself brutally murdered Eva right in front of Dante, subjected Sparda to a FateWorseThanDeath, and has been trying to hunt down and kill Dante himself ever since.

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* In ''VideoGame/DmCDevilMayCry'', ''VideoGame/DMCDevilMayCry'', Mundus is absolutely ''pissed'' when Dante and Vergil kill his [[spoiler: unborn heir]] and flat-out asks why Dante did it. Never mind that Mundus himself brutally murdered Eva right in front of Dante, subjected Sparda to a FateWorseThanDeath, and has been trying to hunt down and kill Dante himself ever since.



-->'''Sam:''' Max, where should I put this so it doesn't hurt anyone we know or care about?
-->'''Max:''' Out the window, Sam. There's nothing but strangers out there!
-->''(Sam chucks the bomb out the window, whereupon it explodes)''
-->'''Sam:''' I hope there was nobody on that bus.
-->'''Max:''' Nobody we know, at least.

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-->'''Sam:''' Max, where should I put this so it doesn't hurt anyone we know or care about?
-->'''Max:'''
about?\\
'''Max:'''
Out the window, Sam. There's nothing but strangers out there!
-->''(Sam
there!\\
''(Sam
chucks the bomb out the window, whereupon it explodes)''
-->'''Sam:'''
explodes)''\\
'''Sam:'''
I hope there was nobody on that bus.
-->'''Max:'''
bus.\\
'''Max:'''
Nobody we know, at least.


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* In ''VideoGame/{{Iji}}'', on a violent playthrough, Iji's enemies berate her for solving all of her problems with violence... despite the fact that all of Iji's problems are trying to solve ''her'' with violence, and kinda-sorta ''blew up her planet'' while she was taking a cryo-nap.
16th Nov '17 8:23:27 PM FRizer
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The originating group may be [[BlueBlood royalty]], a {{Proud Warrior Race|Guy}}, TheBeautifulElite, ScaryDogmaticAliens, a [[TheClan close]] [[ThickerThanWater family]], or fervent [[MyCountryRightOrWrong nationalists/patriots]], but the attitude is all the same: they are justified in taking anything and delivering DisproportionateRetribution upon anyone who would take anything from them. LackOfEmpathy is on full display; everyone else is [[WhatMeasureIsANonhuman a nonperson, subhuman]], fair game. (Some may realize that non-members will attempt retribution, even if they deem it wrongheaded; others, however, [[BewilderingPunishment are shocked at attempts at punishment]].)

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The originating group may be [[BlueBlood royalty]], a {{Proud Warrior Race|Guy}}, TheBeautifulElite, ScaryDogmaticAliens, a [[TheClan close]] [[ThickerThanWater family]], or fervent [[MyCountryRightOrWrong nationalists/patriots]], but the attitude is all the same: they are justified in taking anything and delivering DisproportionateRetribution upon anyone who would take anything from them. LackOfEmpathy is on full display; everyone else is [[WhatMeasureIsANonhuman a nonperson, subhuman]], fair game. (Some may realize that non-members will attempt retribution, even if they deem it wrongheaded; others, however, [[BewilderingPunishment are shocked at attempts at punishment]].)
) Moral Myopia is also necessary in warfare situations - why care about "you killed my friend" when you're told to eliminate the opposition?



See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NoTrueScotsman, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism. Related to the OriginalPositionFallacy, where someone supports a policy or idea because they ''assume'' they will benefit from it, and then react with outrage and shock when they realize that's not the case at all.

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See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NoTrueScotsman, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do.do, and PayEvilUntoEvil when being morally myopic is a must for retribution. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism. Related to the OriginalPositionFallacy, where someone supports a policy or idea because they ''assume'' they will benefit from it, and then react with outrage and shock when they realize that's not the case at all.
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Contrast HypocrisyNod and AtLeastIAdmitIt, when they are actually far from myopic.
15th Nov '17 2:39:32 AM DarkWorld
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* In ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'', the Legends travel throughout time fixing aberrations in the timeline, yet generally cause almost as much damage as they fix. During the [[AlienInvasion 'Invasion!']] [[CrisisCrossover event]], when the team learns that [[Series/TheFlash2014 Barry]] went back in time to prevent his mother's death (which was an aberration as well), thus creating the [[AlternateTimeline Flashpoint timeline]], then went back again to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong undo the changes]], Ray and Sara chew him out. Sara is especially egregious, as she mentions how she doesn't try to go back and prevent her sister's death, even though she would've done just that had the others not stopped her from doing so.
14th Nov '17 3:29:42 PM TheNerevarine
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* In ''VideoGame/Injustice2'', Harley Quinn (who's undergoing a HeelFaceTurn, berates [[KnightTemplar Superman]] for still being angry against her, saying he holds a pointless grudge and that she "changed career path". She seemingly forgets that one of the things she did (and the reason Supes hates) her, is the very act that destroyed everything Superman ever held dear and made him such tyrannical. (She was the Joker's accomplice in: a) bombing Metropolis, destroying it, and B) poisoning him with Scarecrow Fear Toxin that made him ''kill his wife and thus their unborn child during a hallucination'').

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* In ''VideoGame/Injustice2'', ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' / ''VideoGame/Injustice2'':
** Superman is pushed down a path of villainy and rises as the [[EvilOverlord autocratic dictator of Earth]] following the destruction of Metropolis and the death of his wife and child are considered such catastrophic trauma that he vows to never allow another atrocity like this to happen again. Then he suffers a VillainousBreakdown after being foiled by the resistance and decides to destroy both Metropolis (again) and Gotham City to teach Batman and his allies a lesson. [[spoiler:And when Shazam protests, Superman kills him in cold-blood meaning he has no problem killing a child himself, despite the death of his own unborn one]].
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Harley Quinn (who's undergoing a HeelFaceTurn, berates [[KnightTemplar Superman]] for still being angry against her, saying he holds a pointless grudge and that she "changed career path". She seemingly forgets that one of the things she did (and the reason Supes hates) her, is the very act that destroyed everything Superman ever held dear and made him such tyrannical. (She was the Joker's accomplice in: a) bombing Metropolis, destroying it, and B) poisoning him with Scarecrow Fear Toxin that made him ''kill his wife and thus their unborn child during a hallucination'').hallucination'').
** Likewise, Batman is subject to this for drawing a line at taking lives and disowns his own son for breaking their one rule. Yet, he has no problem associating Harley and even formally inducts her to the Justice League during her Arcade Ending, despite all her being accomplice in the crimes that pushed Superman over the edge. And its not only Harley, {{guest fighter}}s like [[Franchise/MortalKombat Sub-Zero, Raiden]] and ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} - all three have [[PragmaticHero no problem with killing their opponents, but still are treated as heroes]] - are invited to work with Batman and his league on their respective endings, despite him drawing a line at not taking any lives.
13th Nov '17 6:00:09 AM YoriIroy
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* ''Legacy Of The Rasengan:Naruto'': A angry Naruto calls Sakura out on this. He points out that for all the times he and other people have tried being good friends to her, Sakura just keeps brushing them off for Sasuke. He also angrily points out how she never thinks of how her actions affect the people around her but doesn't care as long as she impresses Sasuke, which isn't helped by the fact that the reason he's chewing her out is because she impulsively broke into Naruto's apartment and stole his scrolls (even in context it isn't justified).

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* [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2938888/1/Legacy-of-the-Rasengan-I-Naruto ''Legacy Of The Rasengan:Naruto'': Rasengan:Naruto'']]: A angry Naruto calls Sakura out on this. He points out that for all the times he and other people have tried being good friends to her, Sakura just keeps brushing them off for Sasuke. He also angrily points out how she never thinks of how her actions affect the people around her but doesn't care as long as she impresses Sasuke, which isn't helped by the fact that the reason he's chewing her out is because she impulsively broke into Naruto's apartment and stole his scrolls (even in context it isn't justified).
12th Nov '17 3:18:18 AM Shadowgazer
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** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin kills a helpless Dooku, but he is shocked when Mace Windu is trying to kill [[WoundedGazelleGambit an apparently helpless Palpatine]], to the point of attacking Windu to save the Sith Lord.
*** Mace calls him out on the hypocrisy in the {{novelization}} and Anakin doesn't have much of an answer. But then Anakin's reaction was less about morality and more that he needed Palpatine alive.
*** He also actually expresses remorse over killing Dooku, saying it wasn’t “the Jedi way”. Also, to be fair, Dooku is his despised enemy who cut off his arm, seriously injured his master and attempted to kill the woman he loves. In contrast, he views Palpatine as a father figure (and his ticket to saving Padme).

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** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin kills a helpless Dooku, but he is shocked when Mace Windu is trying to kill [[WoundedGazelleGambit an apparently helpless Palpatine]], to the point of attacking Windu to save the Sith Lord.
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Lord. Mace calls him out on the hypocrisy in the {{novelization}} and Anakin doesn't have much of an answer. But then He actually expresses some remorse over killing Dooku, saying it wasn’t “the Jedi way”. It is ultimately subverted though, as Anakin's reaction was less about morality and more that he needed Palpatine alive.
*** He also actually expresses remorse over killing Dooku, saying it wasn’t “the Jedi way”. Also, to be fair,
alive and while Dooku is his despised enemy who cut off his arm, seriously injured his master and attempted to kill the woman he loves. In contrast, loves, he views Palpatine as a father figure (and his ticket to saving Padme).
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