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28th Sep '16 9:59:03 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Various ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'' stories have the ponies and [[TheQuisling the PER]] committing ''very'' questionable if not outright villainous actions. If questioned, they'll state that those opposed to them are dooming humanity for selfish reasons while ''they're'' saving humanity out of altruism.
** Particularly in Chatoyance-verse stories where Princess Celestia outright states that she can do no evil and is saving humanity...even as she essentially obliterates Earth.
28th Sep '16 9:54:18 PM DialgaX
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* Various ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'' stories have the ponies and [[TheQuisling the PER]] committing ''very'' questionable if not outright villainous actions. If questioned, they'll state that those opposed to them are dooming humanity for selfish reasons while ''they're'' saving humanity out of altruism.
** Particularly in Chatoyance-verse stories where Princess Celestia outright states that she can do no evil and is saving humanity...even as she essentially obliterates Earth.
19th Sep '16 2:12:06 PM PugBuddies
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** ''Order of the Phoenix'' also brings us a moment where Harry witnesses a memory of James Potter tormenting Snape as their fellow students look on. To this point, Malfoy's bullying of the PowerTrio and Neville had been used to characterize him unequivocally as a PlotIrrelevantVillain; but when Harry mentions the incident, Lupin and Sirius dismiss the bullying with phrases like "people change" and "you can't judge a person by something they did when they were fifteen." Throughout the rest of the series, Malfoy continues to be portrayed as a contemptible character in large part because of his bullying. James, on the other hand, is nearly always spoken of positively, although it is [[ImpliedTrope implied]] that he never sought Snape's forgiveness for the continued mistreatment.

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** ''Order of the Phoenix'' also brings us a moment where Harry witnesses a memory of James Potter tormenting Snape as their fellow students look on. To this point, Malfoy's bullying of the PowerTrio and Neville had been used to characterize him unequivocally as a PlotIrrelevantVillain; but when Harry mentions the incident, incident with James, Lupin and Sirius dismiss the bullying with phrases like "people change" and "you can't judge a person by something they did when they were fifteen." Throughout the rest of the series, Malfoy continues to be portrayed as a contemptible character in large part because of his bullying. James, on the other hand, is nearly always spoken of positively, although it is [[ImpliedTrope implied]] that he never sought Snape's forgiveness for the continued mistreatment.
19th Sep '16 2:08:59 PM PugBuddies
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** ''Order of the Phoenix'' also brings us a moment where Harry witnesses a memory of James Potter tormenting Snape as their fellow students look on. To this point, Malfoy's bullying of the PowerTrio and Neville had been used to characterize him unequivocally as a PlotIrrelevantVillain; but when Harry mentions the incident, Lupin and Sirius dismiss the bullying with platitudes like "people change" and "you can't judge a person by something they did when they were fifteen."

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** ''Order of the Phoenix'' also brings us a moment where Harry witnesses a memory of James Potter tormenting Snape as their fellow students look on. To this point, Malfoy's bullying of the PowerTrio and Neville had been used to characterize him unequivocally as a PlotIrrelevantVillain; but when Harry mentions the incident, Lupin and Sirius dismiss the bullying with platitudes phrases like "people change" and "you can't judge a person by something they did when they were fifteen." Throughout the rest of the series, Malfoy continues to be portrayed as a contemptible character in large part because of his bullying. James, on the other hand, is nearly always spoken of positively, although it is [[ImpliedTrope implied]] that he never sought Snape's forgiveness for the continued mistreatment.
19th Sep '16 10:50:26 AM PugBuddies
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** In "Order Of the Phoenix", Dolores Umbridge forces Harry to write his punishment lines with an enchanted quill that would eventually leave his hand permanently scarred with said lines. This is, of course, presented as morally wrong. In the same book, Hermione secretly curses the "Dumbledore's Army" signup sheet so when Marietta Edgecombe betrays them (under pressure), the word "SNEAK" breaks out in acne across her face. None of the characters seem to see any problem with this. Few fans seem to see any problem with this. Rowling said that it left a few permanent scars, followed by "I loathe a traitor!", possibly pushing this into ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The film version of the situation, incidentally, simply had Cho dosed with truth serum.

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** In "Order ''Order Of the Phoenix", Phoenix'', Dolores Umbridge forces Harry to write his punishment lines with an enchanted quill that would eventually leave his hand permanently scarred with said lines. This is, of course, presented as morally wrong. In the same book, Hermione secretly curses the "Dumbledore's Army" signup sheet so when Marietta Edgecombe betrays them (under pressure), the word "SNEAK" breaks out in acne across her face. None of the characters seem to see any problem with this. Few fans seem to see any problem with this. Rowling said that it left a few permanent scars, followed by "I loathe a traitor!", possibly pushing this into ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The film version of the situation, incidentally, simply had Cho dosed with truth serum.serum.
** ''Order of the Phoenix'' also brings us a moment where Harry witnesses a memory of James Potter tormenting Snape as their fellow students look on. To this point, Malfoy's bullying of the PowerTrio and Neville had been used to characterize him unequivocally as a PlotIrrelevantVillain; but when Harry mentions the incident, Lupin and Sirius dismiss the bullying with platitudes like "people change" and "you can't judge a person by something they did when they were fifteen."
19th Sep '16 8:10:57 AM PugBuddies
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** In ''Deathly Hallows,'' Bellatrix uses the [[ColdBloodedTorture Cruciatus Curse]] on Hermione to try and divulge the location of the Sword of Gryffindor. This, like all previous uses of the curse, is portrayed as morally repugnant. Later in the same book, Harry leaps from his hiding place and Cruciates Amycus Carrow when the latter spits in McGonagall's face. McGonagall, rather than exhibit horror, calls Harry's actions "gallant."

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** In ''Deathly Hallows,'' Bellatrix uses the [[ColdBloodedTorture Cruciatus Curse]] on Hermione to try and divulge the location of the Sword of Gryffindor. This, like all previous uses of the curse, is portrayed as morally repugnant. Later in the same book, Harry leaps from his hiding place and Cruciates Amycus Carrow when the latter spits in McGonagall's [=McGonagall's=] face. McGonagall, [=McGonagall=], rather than exhibit horror, calls Harry's actions "gallant."
19th Sep '16 8:09:07 AM PugBuddies
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** In ''Deathly Hallows,'' Bellatrix uses the [[ColdBloodedTorture Cruciatus Curse]] on Hermione to try and divulge the location of the Sword of Gryffindor. This, like all previous uses of the curse, is portrayed as morally repugnant. Later in the same book, Harry leaps from his hiding place and Cruciates Amycus Carrow when the latter spits in McGonagall's face. McGonagall, rather than exhibit horror, calls Harry's actions "gallant."
17th Sep '16 9:27:17 AM MrTerrorist
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* In the 1999 film The Corruptor, Danny Wallace (Creator/MarkWahlberg) is an Undercover Cop from Internal Affairs sent to investigate Lieutenant Nick Chen (Creator/ChowYunFat) for corruption, which disgusts Danny's father that his son is a Snitch. Yet Danny's father himself is a former DirtyCop that took bribes. Apparently to him there's nothing wrong of taking bribes from criminals but going undercover to catch dirty cops is.
20th Aug '16 1:18:47 PM AnotherDuck
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* This applies to multiplayer games in general, when the other guy kills you with a certain weapon or tactic it is "cheap", or "noobish", but when you use it somehow it is now okay. Logical fallacies abound.
** The term for this behavior is {{Scrub}}.
19th Aug '16 10:28:10 PM EvilKid
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See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide.Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism.

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See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism.
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