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30th Apr '18 4:49:37 PM patriciovalencia117
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* ''Film/BlackPanther'': Killmonger blames white people and Wakandans for the suffering of black people, accusing the former of colonizing and enslaving Africa and condemning the latter for hoarding advanced technology that could be used for helping the African diaspora. Yet he wants to create a global Wakandan empire with all races subservient to black Africans, and he [[spoiler:burns the Heart-Shaped herbs]] so that only he can have the powers of the Black Panther. In other words, he doesn't mind colonialism and hoarding power as long as he is doing it. This hasn't gone unnoticed with T'Challa accusing him of being a short-sighted hypocrite who is every bit as immoral as his enemies.

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* ''Film/BlackPanther'': Killmonger blames white people and Wakandans for the suffering of black people, people around the world, accusing the former of colonizing and enslaving pillaging Africa and condemning the latter for hoarding advanced technology that could be used for helping the African diaspora. Yet he wants to create a global Wakandan empire with all races subservient to black Africans, and he [[spoiler:burns the Heart-Shaped herbs]] so that only he can have the powers of the Black Panther. In other words, he doesn't mind colonialism oppressing races and hoarding power as long as he is doing it. This hasn't gone unnoticed with T'Challa accusing him of being a short-sighted hypocrite who is every bit as immoral as his enemies. it.
26th Apr '18 10:55:22 PM patriciovalencia117
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* Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar: Helmut Zemo seeks to [[spoiler: avenge his family, who were killed during the Avenger's battle with Iron Man's creation Ultron, but he ends up killing multiple innocents who surely had family of their own. He does seem to acknowledge this, seeing as how he apologizes to Black Panther for killing his father]].

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* Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar: ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'': Helmut Zemo seeks to [[spoiler: avenge his family, who were killed during the Avenger's battle with Iron Man's creation Ultron, but he ends up killing multiple innocents who surely had family of their own. He does seem to acknowledge this, seeing as how he apologizes to Black Panther for killing his father]].father]].
* ''Film/BlackPanther'': Killmonger blames white people and Wakandans for the suffering of black people, accusing the former of colonizing and enslaving Africa and condemning the latter for hoarding advanced technology that could be used for helping the African diaspora. Yet he wants to create a global Wakandan empire with all races subservient to black Africans, and he [[spoiler:burns the Heart-Shaped herbs]] so that only he can have the powers of the Black Panther. In other words, he doesn't mind colonialism and hoarding power as long as he is doing it. This hasn't gone unnoticed with T'Challa accusing him of being a short-sighted hypocrite who is every bit as immoral as his enemies.
22nd Apr '18 12:27:57 PM Malady
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* ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive'': The Mugen Tenshin Clan has shades of this. Raidou, the BigBad of the first game, had previously {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}}d Ayame, the wife of his brother (and then-leader of the clan) Shiden, stolen their most sacred technique, and put Hayate into a coma, and the clan decides to just move on and forget it ever happened. However, when Kasumi [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight decides to do something about Raidou herself]] and ditches the clan, she is immediately declared a traitor and MarkedForDeath.

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* ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive'': The Mugen Tenshin Clan has shades of this. Raidou, the BigBad of the first game, had previously {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}}d Ayame, the wife of his brother (and then-leader of the clan) Shiden, stolen their most sacred technique, and put Hayate into a coma, and the clan decides to just move on and forget it ever happened. However, when Kasumi [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight decides to do something about Raidou herself]] and ditches the clan, she is immediately declared a traitor and MarkedForDeath.MarkedToDie.



-->'''Witch Hunter''': Wh-What... What are you doing!?
-->'''Geralt''': [[NeutralNoLonger Killing]] ''[[IronicEcho monsters]]''.

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-->'''Witch Hunter''': Wh-What... What are you doing!?
-->'''Geralt''':
doing!?\\
'''Geralt''':
[[NeutralNoLonger Killing]] ''[[IronicEcho monsters]]''.
22nd Apr '18 10:04:55 AM captainaeroman
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**However, Gon has been showing signs of his own moral myopia since the very beginning and is even commented on by other characters, not really caring when fellow participants die in the hunter exams or that his training partner in Greed Island is a SerialKiller since all the other participants were strangers but he knew Binolt. [[spoiler:This eventually comes to a head when he dedicates everything to killing Pitou to avenge Kite, even threatening to kill an innocent woman until they come with him. Ends tragically when he decides to [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique "give up everything" for the power to brutally kill Pitou]] and needing to be saved from the brink of death in the next arc]]
14th Apr '18 2:46:21 PM Briguy52748
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** Archie's son-in-law, Mike, is often guilty of this as well. For instance, he'll call out Archie on an outmoded or sexist attitude, but during the course of the episode he demonstrates the very same behaviors he professes to be against, with Gloria often calling him on things.
11th Apr '18 8:37:15 AM Luigifan
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A trope whereby some in-universe group moral standard is portrayed as being [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] because the morality of actions depends ''entirely'' upon the identity of the actor(s). If it's ''us'' who do it then it's clearly [[IDidWhatIHadToDo justifiable and excusable]] -- though it's not a good thing [[TautologicalTemplar just because we do it]]. If ''others'' were to do it (''especially'' if it harms us!) then it's clearly unjustified, inexcusable, and ''evil''. ProtagonistCenteredMorality is the trope for when it's not the creator's or narrator's ''intention'' to portray the group moral standard as being hypocritical, but it can be seen that way anyway.

The originating group may be [[BlueBlood royalty]], a {{Proud Warrior Race|Guy}}, TheBeautifulElite, ScaryDogmaticAliens, a [[TheClan close]] [[ThickerThanWater family]], or fervent [[MyCountryRightOrWrong nationalists/patriots]], but the attitude is all the same: they are justified in taking anything and delivering DisproportionateRetribution upon anyone who would take anything from them. LackOfEmpathy is on full display; everyone else is [[WhatMeasureIsANonhuman a nonperson, subhuman]], fair game. (Some may realize that non-members will attempt retribution, even if they deem it wrongheaded; others, however, [[BewilderingPunishment are shocked at attempts at punishment]].) Moral Myopia is also necessary in warfare situations - why care about "you killed my friend" when you're told to eliminate the opposition?

If you ever accuse them of being evil and demand that they justify their actions -- if they even feel any need to justify something to an outsider -- don't expect any [[NecessarilyEvil remorse about their]] DirtyBusiness, or even admissions of villainy, whether [[IAmAMonster regretful]] or [[CardCarryingVillain gleeful]]. These are likely to spit at you that they [[WhatIsEvil do not subscribe to your idea of "evil"]]. After all, they claim, how many good men would speak against murder as the ultimate evil -- only to, if they found out a loved one committed it, [[MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal make excuses for them]] and let them get away with it if they could? What's more, how many do-gooders [[WhatMeasureIsAMook actually feel remorse for all the minor evil minions]] they kill to save the world? How many so-called "heroes" will [[AchillesInHisTent laze in their tents]] and [[HeroicNeutral turn a blind eye to the villain's actions]], ignoring the evil being allowed to exist by their inaction, until he makes the mistake of hitting their {{Protectorate}}?

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A trope whereby some in-universe group moral standard is portrayed as being [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] because the morality of actions depends ''entirely'' upon the identity of the actor(s). If it's ''us'' who do it then it's clearly [[IDidWhatIHadToDo justifiable and excusable]] -- though it's not a good thing [[TautologicalTemplar just because we do it]]. If ''others'' were to do it (''especially'' if it harms us!) then it's clearly unjustified, inexcusable, and ''evil''. ProtagonistCenteredMorality is the trope for when it's not the creator's or narrator's ''intention'' to portray the group moral standard as being hypocritical, but it can be seen that way anyway.

The originating group may be [[BlueBlood royalty]], a {{Proud Warrior Race|Guy}}, TheBeautifulElite, ScaryDogmaticAliens, a [[TheClan close]] [[ThickerThanWater family]], or fervent [[MyCountryRightOrWrong nationalists/patriots]], but the attitude is all the same: they are justified in taking anything and delivering DisproportionateRetribution upon anyone who would take anything from them. LackOfEmpathy is on full display; everyone else is [[WhatMeasureIsANonhuman a nonperson, subhuman]], fair game. (Some may realize that non-members will attempt retribution, even if they deem it wrongheaded; others, however, [[BewilderingPunishment are shocked at attempts at punishment]].) Moral Myopia is also necessary in warfare situations - why care about "you killed my friend" when you're told to eliminate the opposition?

If you ever accuse them of being evil and demand that they justify their actions -- if they even feel any need to justify something to an outsider -- don't expect any [[NecessarilyEvil remorse about their]] DirtyBusiness, or even admissions of villainy, whether [[IAmAMonster regretful]] or [[CardCarryingVillain gleeful]]. These are likely to spit at you that they [[WhatIsEvil do not subscribe to your idea of "evil"]]. After all, they claim, how many good men would speak against murder as the ultimate evil -- only to, if they found out a loved one committed it, [[MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal make excuses for them]] and let them get away with it if they could? What's more, how many do-gooders [[WhatMeasureIsAMook actually feel remorse for all the minor evil minions]] they kill to save the world? How many so-called "heroes" will [[AchillesInHisTent laze in their tents]] and [[HeroicNeutral turn a blind eye to the villain's actions]], [[BystanderSyndrome ignoring the evil being allowed to exist by their inaction, inaction]], until he makes the mistake of hitting their {{Protectorate}}?



See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NoTrueScotsman, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do, and PayEvilUntoEvil when being morally myopic is a must for retribution. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism. Related to the OriginalPositionFallacy, where someone supports a policy or idea because they ''assume'' they will benefit from it, and then react with outrage and shock when they realize that's not the case at all.

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See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NoTrueScotsman, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if a DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls the protagonists out for any act they do, and PayEvilUntoEvil when being morally myopic is a must for retribution. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism. Related to the OriginalPositionFallacy, where someone supports a policy or idea because they ''assume'' they will benefit from it, and then react with outrage and shock when they realize that's not the case at all.
4th Apr '18 4:52:22 PM nombretomado
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* Wrestling/HulkHogan (and just about every face wrestler during the WrestleMania era of the WWF): When they engaged in rulebreaking and the same behavior to defeat rulebreaking wrestlers, Wrestling/GorillaMonsoon usually portrayed it as "turnabout is fair play." Also, several male wrestlers beating up [[Wrestling/SherriMartel Sensational Sherri]] when she tried to interfere in Wrestling/RandySavage's matches. When the heels broke the rules, they would be called every bad name under the sun, particularly by Monsoon and Wrestling/VinceMcMahon. During a classic ''Saturday Night's Main Event'' promo, Hercules ? during his early heel run ? once cut a sly promo about this... the good guys get away with bending or breaking the rules, but when he (and his rulebreaking friends) step out of line, they are harshly condemned.

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* Wrestling/HulkHogan (and just about every face wrestler during the WrestleMania Wrestling/WrestleMania era of the WWF): When they engaged in rulebreaking and the same behavior to defeat rulebreaking wrestlers, Wrestling/GorillaMonsoon usually portrayed it as "turnabout is fair play." Also, several male wrestlers beating up [[Wrestling/SherriMartel Sensational Sherri]] when she tried to interfere in Wrestling/RandySavage's matches. When the heels broke the rules, they would be called every bad name under the sun, particularly by Monsoon and Wrestling/VinceMcMahon. During a classic ''Saturday Night's Main Event'' promo, Hercules ? during his early heel run ? once cut a sly promo about this... the good guys get away with bending or breaking the rules, but when he (and his rulebreaking friends) step out of line, they are harshly condemned.
29th Mar '18 12:46:19 PM ironballs16
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* In ''Film/ChildrenOfMen'', Patric, one of the two men sent to kill Theo, takes it personally when Theo inadvertently kills the other assassin in the process of saving his own life. When they meet again near the end of the film, Patric even knees him in the groin, shouting about his fallen comrade: "He was nineteen!" ([[ItMakesSenseInContext because young people are viewed as precious with human beings having stopped having children]]).

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* In ''Film/ChildrenOfMen'', Patric, one of the two men sent to kill Theo, takes it personally when Theo inadvertently kills the other assassin in the process of saving his own life. When they meet again near the end of the film, Patric even knees him in the groin, shouting about his fallen comrade: "He was nineteen!" ([[ItMakesSenseInContext because young people are viewed as precious with precious]] as human beings having [[SterilityPlague had stopped having children]]).
29th Mar '18 1:27:50 AM MinisterOfSinister
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** Not that Humans are any better, regularly decrying Eldar for viewing other species as inferior and irrelevant and their policies of casual genocide despite doing the exact same things themselves. [[EvilVersusEvil This was put in by the developers intentionally]].

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** Not that Humans the Imperium are any better, regularly decrying Eldar for viewing other species as inferior and irrelevant and their policies of casual genocide despite doing the exact same things themselves. [[EvilVersusEvil This was put in by the developers intentionally]].themselves on a regular basis. The God-Emperor also railed against aliens for attacking and enslaving humanity, then went on to wipe out entire species and force those he considered useful to KneelBeforeZod.
25th Mar '18 3:28:52 PM gophergiggles
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Of all the ponies to call out Trixie for being a showoff in "Boast Busters", it's Rainbow Dash who does it first. The same pony who is ''very'' quick to remind everyone around her just how awesome she is.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
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Of all the ponies to call out Trixie for being a showoff in "Boast Busters", it's Rainbow Dash who does it first. The same pony who is ''very'' quick to remind everyone around her just how awesome she is.is.
** Starlight Glimmer, the resident poster child for "[[HeelFaceTurn evil villain turned good guy]]", is very quick to outright refuse to give Thorax a chance to prove he's a good person or give up on Pharynx and write him off as a lost cause after he's not easily willing to change his ways. Both of these episodes have blink and you'll miss it scenes where she [[HeelRealization realizes the double standard]], and she's since become friends with both of them.
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