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13th Oct '17 12:03:44 AM KeithM
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** Another example involves the asari. As the ''de facto'' leaders of the Council, they've made it a point of Council rules that discovered technology like the Prothean beacon should be shared among Council members. Yet in the third game it's revealed that they've been secretly sitting on a functioning beacon on Thessia since the last Reaper cycle and the knowledge they were able to extract from it is the reason why they were the first major spacefaring species in the current cycle. It takes the actual Reaper attack on Thessia before they admit what they have.
11th Oct '17 9:51:13 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* Pretty much the stock in trade of the [[Literature/NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]]. Jedi kills one of your family? Foul, heretical murder that demands vengeance in the name of the gods, usually in the form of slaughtering their friends, family and everyone they ever met. This is a direct result of their [[ReligionOfEvil psychopathic religious teachings]], and they get better. Eventually.

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* Pretty much Literature/NewJediOrder: This is the stock in trade of the [[Literature/NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]].Vong. Jedi kills one of your family? Foul, heretical murder that demands vengeance in the name of the gods, usually in the form of slaughtering their friends, family and everyone they ever met. This is a direct result of their [[ReligionOfEvil psychopathic religious teachings]], and they get better. Eventually.
21st Sep '17 5:59:54 PM N1KF
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* In ''Literature/TheBible'', Laban and his family see nothing wrong with cheating Jacob out of Rachel, forcing him to work 20 years for them, enriching themselves on his labor in the process, and MovingTheGoalposts ten times. But when Jacob prospers despite their attempts, they think he's stealing from them and get angry, leading to God telling Jacob to get a move on.
** Also from ''Literature/TheBible'', the prophet Nathan manages to force David to see his own crime ([[TheUriahGambit sending Uriah out to be killed]] in order to steal his wife) as others see it by retelling the story of his own deeds to him in disguised form. Until TheReveal prompts a "MyGodWhatHaveIDone", David's righteous outrage at the cruelty of this horrible guy Nathan's just told him about is an example of moral myopia.

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* In ''Literature/TheBible'', Literature/TheBible:
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Laban and his family see nothing wrong with cheating Jacob out of Rachel, forcing him to work 20 years for them, enriching themselves on his labor in the process, and MovingTheGoalposts ten times. But when Jacob prospers despite their attempts, they think he's stealing from them and get angry, leading to God telling Jacob to get a move on.
** Also from ''Literature/TheBible'', the The prophet Nathan manages to force David to see his own crime ([[TheUriahGambit sending Uriah out to be killed]] in order to steal his wife) as others see it by retelling the story of his own deeds to him in disguised form. Until TheReveal prompts a "MyGodWhatHaveIDone", David's righteous outrage at the cruelty of this horrible guy Nathan's just told him about is an example of moral myopia.
12th Sep '17 8:24:26 PM merotoker
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** Envy often complains about others not fighting fair when they get the advantage over him in battle. Coming from a guy who throws around [[ShapeshifterGuiltTrip Shapeshifter Guilt Trips]] and [[KickTheDog dog kickings]] almost constantly, it rings a little hollow.

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** Envy often complains about others not fighting fair when they get the advantage over him in battle. Coming from a guy who throws around [[ShapeshifterGuiltTrip Shapeshifter {{Shapeshifter Guilt Trips]] Trip}}s and [[KickTheDog dog kickings]] almost constantly, it rings a little hollow.



* ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'': Leonard Testarossa despises [[TheHero Sosuke Sagara]], calling him a horrible monster beyond redemption because he's killed people before, and even tries using this argument to drive a wedge between Sosuke and his LoveInterest Kaname. The problem is, Leonard is the leader of Amalgam, a massive terrorist organization that's causes worldwide death and destruction in pursuit of their own selfish goals, while Sosuke's a soldier who fights to protect people with special abilities from being captured and exploited...by Amalgam. Essentially, Leonard believes that ordering minions to kill people isn't anywhere near the same as pulling the trigger himself, and he doesn't get why Kaname thinks [[YoureInsane he's out of his mind]].

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* ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'': Leonard Testarossa despises [[TheHero Sosuke Sagara]], calling him a horrible monster beyond redemption because he's killed people before, and even tries using this argument to drive a wedge between Sosuke and his LoveInterest {{Love Interest|s}} Kaname. The problem is, Leonard is the leader of Amalgam, a massive terrorist organization that's causes worldwide death and destruction in pursuit of their own selfish goals, while Sosuke's a soldier who fights to protect people with special abilities from being captured and exploited...by Amalgam. Essentially, Leonard believes that ordering minions to kill people isn't anywhere near the same as pulling the trigger himself, and he doesn't get why Kaname thinks [[YoureInsane he's out of his mind]].



** And speaking of Danzo, his idea of the right thing to do puts him second only to Orochimaru for trauma produced. If that. Danzo has a standard policy of abusing and brainwashing small children into his minions, he's strongly implied to have conspired with Orochimaru after Orochimaru betrayed the village. He's also responsible for Kabuto's StartOfDarkness; Not only did he blackmail Kabuto and his mother figure into spying for Root, he ''set them up to kill each other'' when he felt that they [[HeKnowsTooMuch knew too much]] and had become a liability. Consequently, Kabuto betrays Konoha. Most importantly, [[spoiler:he's the one who leaked the fact that Naruto had the Kyuubi sealed inside him and is responsible for the boy's rotten childhood.]] He is clearly in the top five evil people stakes for the series, but he ''[[IDidWhatIHadToDo doesn't think he's a bad person]]''.

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** And speaking of Danzo, his idea of the right thing to do puts him second only to Orochimaru for trauma produced. If that. Danzo has a standard policy of abusing and brainwashing small children into his minions, he's strongly implied to have conspired with Orochimaru after Orochimaru betrayed the village. He's also responsible for Kabuto's StartOfDarkness; Not only did he blackmail Kabuto and his mother figure into spying for Root, he ''set them up to kill each other'' when he felt that they [[HeKnowsTooMuch knew too much]] and had become a liability. Consequently, Kabuto betrays Konoha. Most importantly, [[spoiler:he's the one who leaked the fact that Naruto had the Kyuubi sealed inside him and is responsible for the boy's rotten childhood.]] childhood]]. He is clearly in the top five evil people stakes for the series, but he ''[[IDidWhatIHadToDo doesn't think he's a bad person]]''.



** Vinsmoke Judge is a SocialDarwinist who thinks VirtueIsWeakness, and that MightMakesRight. He's not afraid to use his own soldiers as Human Shields, and spent most of the arc threatening Sanji's father-figure Zeff to get his cooperation. When he realizes that the Big Mom Pirates are going to kill him and his family, he breaks down and begs for his life. Those around him, even his own family, mock Judge for his VillainousBreakdown.

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** Vinsmoke Judge is a SocialDarwinist TheSocialDarwinist who thinks VirtueIsWeakness, and that MightMakesRight. He's not afraid to use his own soldiers as Human Shields, and spent most of the arc threatening Sanji's father-figure Zeff to get his cooperation. When he realizes that the Big Mom Pirates are going to kill him and his family, he breaks down and begs for his life. Those around him, even his own family, mock Judge for his VillainousBreakdown.



* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' villainess Poison Ivy frequently reacts this way to her beloved plants being ''pruned''. Gaia save you if you use weed killer. Meanwhile, she kills one or two ''humans'' per appearance. Of course, in Ivy's case its sort of justified since its implied she hears plants scream in pain whenever they're damaged (plants DO notice things like that), but its hard to tell if it actually happens or if she's just so mentally unbalanced she imagines it.

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* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' villainess Poison Ivy ComicBook/PoisonIvy frequently reacts this way to her beloved plants being ''pruned''. Gaia save you if you use weed killer. Meanwhile, she kills one or two ''humans'' per appearance. Of course, in Ivy's case its sort of justified since its implied she hears plants scream in pain whenever they're damaged (plants DO notice things like that), but its hard to tell if it actually happens or if she's just so mentally unbalanced she imagines it.



** {{Bane}}, after a lifetime of murder, destruction and brutality, is shocked to discover that he's set for Hell when the team briefly goes there to rescue Ragdoll II. Bane insists that he followed a "code of honor", I.E avoided certain types of crimes like rape or killing children. In his mind, thats the same thing as actually being a good person. The demons laugh at him, and tells him that "men of honor" are a dime a dozen among the damned, and him following a personal moral code doesnt protect him one bit from the consequences of his sins. However, Bane takes the exact opposite moral from his experience and decides that if he's damned anyway he might as well become TheUnfettered when they're back on Earth.
* One of ComicBook/{{Superman}}'s enemies was NinetiesAntiHero Manchester Black, the leader of a group of "superheroes" who executed supervillains and gained a lot of public support for doing so. When Superman challenges them to a fight and [[spoiler:pretends to]] use lethal force against them, Black is horrified that Superman is using the exact same methods that he had against him.

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** {{Bane}}, ComicBook/{{Bane}}, after a lifetime of murder, destruction and brutality, is shocked to discover that he's set for Hell when the team briefly goes there to rescue Ragdoll II. Bane insists that he followed a "code of honor", I.E avoided certain types of crimes like rape or killing children. In his mind, thats the same thing as actually being a good person. The demons laugh at him, and tells him that "men of honor" are a dime a dozen among the damned, and him following a personal moral code doesnt doesn't protect him one bit from the consequences of his sins. However, Bane takes the exact opposite moral from his experience and decides that if he's damned anyway he might as well become TheUnfettered when they're back on Earth.
* One of ComicBook/{{Superman}}'s Franchise/{{Superman}}'s enemies was NinetiesAntiHero Manchester Black, the leader of a group of "superheroes" who executed supervillains and gained a lot of public support for doing so. When Superman challenges them to a fight and [[spoiler:pretends to]] use lethal force against them, Black is horrified that Superman is using the exact same methods that he had against him.



** (King) Leonard and a small army of his piggy subjects sail over to Bird Island, lull the residents into a false sense of security with false acts of kindness and proceed to steal their eggs with the intention of eating them. When the birds spurred on by Red start attacking their village in retaliation, the pigs are all too quick to act like they’ve done nothing wrong and frame the whole thing as the birds being UngratefulBastards.

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** (King) Leonard and a small army of his piggy subjects sail over to Bird Island, lull the residents into a false sense of security with false acts of kindness and proceed to steal their eggs with the intention of eating them. When the birds spurred on by Red start attacking their village in retaliation, the pigs are all too quick to act like they’ve done nothing wrong and frame the whole thing as the birds being UngratefulBastards.{{Ungrateful Bastard}}s.



* Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar: Helmut Zemo seeks to [[spoiler: avenge his family, who were killed during the Avenger's battle with Iron Man's creation Ultron, but he ends up killing multiple innocents who surely had family of their own. He does seem to acknowledge this, seeing as how he apologizes to Black Panther for killing his father.]]

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* Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar: Helmut Zemo seeks to [[spoiler: avenge his family, who were killed during the Avenger's battle with Iron Man's creation Ultron, but he ends up killing multiple innocents who surely had family of their own. He does seem to acknowledge this, seeing as how he apologizes to Black Panther for killing his father.]]father]].



* In the 2010 version of ''Film/{{Clash of the Titans|2010}}'', Zeus is made aware of his son Perseus but refuses to show him any favor. He says his son has shown no love for him either, casually ignoring the fact that Perseus is a discarded byproduct of one of Zeus's nights of lust with a mortal woman. Eventually Zeus warms up to Perseus and helps him on his quest, even claiming him as his own in the end.

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* In the 2010 version of ''Film/{{Clash of the Titans|2010}}'', ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans2010'', Zeus is made aware of his son Perseus but refuses to show him any favor. He says his son has shown no love for him either, casually ignoring the fact that Perseus is a discarded byproduct of one of Zeus's nights of lust with a mortal woman. Eventually Zeus warms up to Perseus and helps him on his quest, even claiming him as his own in the end.



** The Tau are an [[ZigZagged interesting]] case: while they think other species can be callous and/or barbaric, they generally try to use diplomacy or political maneuvering before they resort to a military conquest of a planet; and even then they take pains to try to integrate the local population of a species, and will resort to trying to exterminating them only if they have been judged as being incompatible with [[TheNeedsOfTheMany the Greater Good]]. This is in contrast to humans, Orks, Tyranids, and some Necron dynasties who will happily conquer a world upon first contact and try to exterminate the local alien species as soon as look at them. Tau society, rather deliberately, scales on how idealistic is looks [[DependingOnTheAuthor depending on the perspective its seen from]]. From the side sympathetic to the Tau, they have one highest standards of living in the galaxy and it's about as idealistic as the Tau are. Opposite is that the Tau hierarchy is [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood secretly manipulative]], and their society is oppressive and incredibly Orwellian, and will resort to "reeducation", genocide, and using conquest as a first option if it suits their purposes. Given how a Tau society and how they interact with their neighbors, planet to planet, can be pretty diverse, and these two opinions aren't mutually exclusive.

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** The Tau are an [[ZigZagged [[ZigZaggingTrope interesting]] case: while they think other species can be callous and/or barbaric, they generally try to use diplomacy or political maneuvering before they resort to a military conquest of a planet; and even then they take pains to try to integrate the local population of a species, and will resort to trying to exterminating them only if they have been judged as being incompatible with [[TheNeedsOfTheMany the Greater Good]]. This is in contrast to humans, Orks, Tyranids, and some Necron dynasties who will happily conquer a world upon first contact and try to exterminate the local alien species as soon as look at them. Tau society, rather deliberately, scales on how idealistic is looks [[DependingOnTheAuthor depending on the perspective its seen from]]. From the side sympathetic to the Tau, they have one highest standards of living in the galaxy and it's about as idealistic as the Tau are. Opposite is that the Tau hierarchy is [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood secretly manipulative]], and their society is oppressive and incredibly Orwellian, and will resort to "reeducation", genocide, and using conquest as a first option if it suits their purposes. Given how a Tau society and how they interact with their neighbors, planet to planet, can be pretty diverse, and these two opinions aren't mutually exclusive.



* In ''VideoGame/MegaManZero 3'', Copy X accuses Ciel and LaResistance of being extremists for not giving up the alternate energy system she had developed. Never mind that not only was Copy X the one who started the mass extermination of Reploids in Neo Arcadia in the first place, but he also had no qualms about [[spoiler:destroying an entire human residential district with a missile holding Omega, just to get the Dark Elf.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/MegaManZero 3'', Copy X accuses Ciel and LaResistance of being extremists for not giving up the alternate energy system she had developed. Never mind that not only was Copy X the one who started the mass extermination of Reploids in Neo Arcadia in the first place, but he also had no qualms about [[spoiler:destroying an entire human residential district with a missile holding Omega, just to get the Dark Elf.]]Elf]].



** Nowhere is this this more evident than the mind of Admiral Margaret Parangosky, the Director of ONI who authorized both Halsey's arrest ''and'' the SPARTAN-[=II=] and SPARTAN-[=III=] Programs. When Halsey goes behind Parangosky's back to replace the kidnapped Spartan-[=II=]s with flash-clones that would eventually die to prevent their parents being tormented by their disappearance, it's condemned as an unforgivable crime that forced 75 sets of parents to watching their children die slowly. When Parangosky commits actual treason by going behind Fleet Admiral Terrance Hood's back to instigate a CivilWar among the Elites he's trying to negotiate a meaningful peace with (in fact, Parangosky's plan ends up hurting the pro-human Elites more than the anti-human ones), it's about trying to neutralize a threat.

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** Nowhere is this this more evident than the mind of Admiral Margaret Parangosky, the Director of ONI who authorized both Halsey's arrest ''and'' the SPARTAN-[=II=] and SPARTAN-[=III=] Programs. When Halsey goes behind Parangosky's back to replace the kidnapped Spartan-[=II=]s with flash-clones that would eventually die to prevent their parents being tormented by their disappearance, it's condemned as an unforgivable crime that forced 75 sets of parents to watching their children die slowly. When Parangosky commits actual treason by going behind Fleet Admiral Terrance Hood's back to instigate a CivilWar among the Elites he's trying to negotiate a meaningful peace with (in fact, Parangosky's plan ends up hurting the pro-human Elites more than the anti-human ones), it's about trying to neutralize a threat.



* ''Franchise/DeadOrAlive'': The Mugen Tenshin Clan has shades of this. Raidou, the BigBad of the first game, had previously [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raped]] Ayame, the wife of his brother (and then-leader of the clan) Shiden, stolen their most sacred technique, and put Hayate into a coma, and the clan decides to just move on and forget it ever happened. However, when Kasumi [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight decides to do something about Raidou herself]] and ditches the clan, she is immediately declared a traitor and MarkedForDeath.

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* ''Franchise/DeadOrAlive'': ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive'': The Mugen Tenshin Clan has shades of this. Raidou, the BigBad of the first game, had previously [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raped]] {{rape|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}}d Ayame, the wife of his brother (and then-leader of the clan) Shiden, stolen their most sacred technique, and put Hayate into a coma, and the clan decides to just move on and forget it ever happened. However, when Kasumi [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight decides to do something about Raidou herself]] and ditches the clan, she is immediately declared a traitor and MarkedForDeath.



* ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock}}'': Andrew Ryan founded Rapture on strict secular Objectivist principles, a society where free market capitalism is the only morality, to the point that one of the first things you see in the game is a slideshow he used to greet newcomers with about how evil the goverments on the surface were for interfering with taxes and laws. That is, until Frank Fontaine showed up and started to outcompete Ryans own businesses and threatened his power over the city, at which point Ryan ended up nationalizing Fontaines businesses and branded him a criminal. In all fairness, Fontaine WAS a criminal, but Ryan never had any official evidence of that, and pretty much just flushed all his principles because he didnt like not having all the power himself.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock}}'': Andrew Ryan founded Rapture on strict secular Objectivist principles, a society where free market capitalism is the only morality, to the point that one of the first things you see in the game is a slideshow he used to greet newcomers with about how evil the goverments governments on the surface were for interfering with taxes and laws. That is, until Frank Fontaine showed up and started to outcompete Ryans own businesses and threatened his power over the city, at which point Ryan ended up nationalizing Fontaines businesses and branded him a criminal. In all fairness, Fontaine WAS a criminal, but Ryan never had any official evidence of that, and pretty much just flushed all his principles because he didnt like not having all the power himself.



* In ''VideoGame/Injustice2'', Harley Quinn (who's undegoing a HeelFaceTurn, berates [[KnightTemplar Superman]] for still being angry against her, saying he holds a pointless grudge and that she "changed career path". She seemingly forgets that one of the things she did (and the reason Supes hates) her, is the very act that destroyed everything Superman ever held dear and made him such tyrannical. (She was the Joker's accomplice in: a)bombing Metropolis, destroying it, and B) poisoning him with Scarecrow Fear Toxin that made him ''kill his wife and thus their unborn child during a hallucination'').

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* In ''VideoGame/Injustice2'', Harley Quinn (who's undegoing undergoing a HeelFaceTurn, berates [[KnightTemplar Superman]] for still being angry against her, saying he holds a pointless grudge and that she "changed career path". She seemingly forgets that one of the things she did (and the reason Supes hates) her, is the very act that destroyed everything Superman ever held dear and made him such tyrannical. (She was the Joker's accomplice in: a)bombing a) bombing Metropolis, destroying it, and B) poisoning him with Scarecrow Fear Toxin that made him ''kill his wife and thus their unborn child during a hallucination'').



** The Slaughterhouse Nine gleefully, remorselessly torture and kill many people in sadistic manners while daring the heroes to stop them. But when they find themselves on the back foot they flip out and flip the metaphorical table. This is best demonstrated by Jack Slash; he '''loves''' to hear himself talk and doles out {{Breaking Speech}}es like one might give away candy at Halloween. But when one of his enemies tries to return the favour, out comes his knife.

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** The Slaughterhouse Nine gleefully, remorselessly torture and kill many people in sadistic manners while daring the heroes to stop them. But when they find themselves on the back foot they flip out and flip the metaphorical table. This is best demonstrated by Jack Slash; he '''loves''' to hear himself talk and doles out {{Breaking Speech}}es [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Speeches]] like one might give away candy at Halloween. But when one of his enemies tries to return the favour, out comes his knife.



* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'': SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker: "You killed Captain Clown. '''[[SeriousBusiness YOU KILLED CAPTAIN CLOWN!!!]]'''" (Captain Clown was a mindless robot, while Joker's current plot is driving an entire city insane.)

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'': SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker: ComicBook/TheJoker: "You killed Captain Clown. '''[[SeriousBusiness YOU KILLED CAPTAIN CLOWN!!!]]'''" (Captain Clown was a mindless robot, while Joker's current plot is driving an entire city insane.)
11th Sep '17 4:42:57 AM Owlorange1995
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See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NoTrueScotsman, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism. Related to the OriginalPositionFallacy.

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See also SpeciesLoyalty, ApeShallNeverKillApe, AMillionIsAStatistic, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters, MoralDissonance, NoTrueScotsman, NeverMyFault, TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies, TautologicalTemplar, and WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide. Also compare with MoralDissonance if DoubleStandard is portrayed as justified in-universe and nobody calls protagonists for any act they do. SuperTrope to RevengeMyopia. Likely to be at best a "gray" in BlackAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, or WhiteAndGreyMorality. When the writers seem to wholeheartedly privilege the protagonists this way, it's a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. The CannibalTribe may employ this to avoid self-depopulation while also refusing to abandon cannibalism. Related to the OriginalPositionFallacy.
OriginalPositionFallacy, where someone supports a policy or idea because they ''assume'' they will benefit from it, and then react with outrage and shock when they realize that's not the case at all.
21st Aug '17 1:01:03 AM PaulA
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* In Creator/MercedesLackey's''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms The Fairy Godmother]]'': Alexander starts off with a severe case of "anything a noble like me does is fine". Trying to trample a crippled old woman under his warhorse's hooves? A reasonable tactic. Being [[BalefulPolymorph transformed]] by the not-so-crippled, not-so-old Godmother he just tried to kill, and dragged off for lessons in being a decent person? She's obviously a peasant, which makes this totally unforgivable. [[BreakTheHaughty She quickly breaks him of this thought process.]]
** In the same author's retelling of [[Literature/TheBlackSwan Swan Lake]], nearly every major character thinks what they are doing is only right and fair, even though some of them are doing terrible things. The sympathetic ones get enough character development to grow out of it.

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The Fairy Godmother]]'': Alexander starts off with a severe case of "anything a noble like me does is fine". Trying to trample a crippled old woman under his warhorse's hooves? A reasonable tactic. Being [[BalefulPolymorph transformed]] by the not-so-crippled, not-so-old Godmother he just tried to kill, and dragged off for lessons in being a decent person? She's obviously a peasant, which makes this totally unforgivable. [[BreakTheHaughty She quickly breaks him of this thought process.]]
** In the same author's ''Literature/TheBlackSwan'', a retelling of [[Literature/TheBlackSwan Swan Lake]], ''Swan Lake'', nearly every major character thinks what they are doing is only right and fair, even though some of them are doing terrible things. The sympathetic ones get enough character development to grow out of it.
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** Also in Act III chapter 8, Felucia and Mizore, after openly supporting Dark's view that Tsukune's inner ghoul is too dangerous to be kept alive even with the Holy Lock, actively fight Moka and Kokoa to prevent them from stopping Dark from killing Tsukune. Kokoa calls them out on it, pointing out that they know how it feels to lose someone they love and are doing the same thing to Moka; while this gets through to Mizore and causes her to hesitate, Felucia is not so easily swayed.



** In Volume 4, Raven tries to call out Qrow on cutting ties with their [[BanditClan "family"]], only for Qrow to point out [[ParentalAbandonment she walked out on her husband right after their daughter Yang was born]], and has made ''no'' attempt to get in contact with them since, [[spoiler: even after Yang lost her arm in the Battle of Beacon]]. Raven quickly changed the subject.

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** In Volume 4, Raven tries to call out Qrow on cutting ties with their [[BanditClan "family"]], only for Qrow to point out [[ParentalAbandonment she walked out on her husband right after their daughter Yang was born]], and has made ''no'' attempt to get in contact with them since, [[spoiler: even after Yang lost her arm in the Battle of Beacon]]. Raven quickly changed changes the subject.
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** On a minor-but-no-less-Jerkass note, the pig’s ship wrecks Red’s house when the former first arrives and at no point do they apologise or offer to help fix it (keep in mind that Red built that house himself and had no help due to spending most of his life as a pariah). For extra KickTheDog points, when Red rightfully calls him out, Leonard brushes it off with “Your house was ugly!”

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** On a minor-but-no-less-Jerkass note, the pig’s ship wrecks Red’s house when the former first arrives and at no point do they apologise or offer to help fix it (keep in mind that Red built that house himself and had no help due to spending most of his life as a pariah). But when the bird's rescue mission leads to ''his'' house getting wrecked, Leonard is pissed. For extra KickTheDog points, when Red rightfully calls him out, Leonard brushes it off with “Your house was ugly!”
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**(King) Leonard and a small army of his piggy subjects sail over to Bird Island, lull the residents into a false sense of security with false acts of kindness and proceed to steal their eggs with the intention of eating them. When the birds spurred on by Red start attacking their village in retaliation, the pigs are all too quick to act like they’ve done nothing wrong and frame the whole thing as the birds being UngratefulBastards.
**On a minor-but-no-less-Jerkass note, the pig’s ship wrecks Red’s house when the former first arrives and at no point do they apologise or offer to help fix it (keep in mind that Red built that house himself and had no help due to spending most of his life as a pariah). For extra KickTheDog points, when Red rightfully calls him out, Leonard brushes it off with “Your house was ugly!”
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