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27th Nov '17 10:04:25 PM nendroid
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* TheSociopath: One of the most frequent crossers of the MEH, as a complete LackOfEmpathy, overarching egotism and grandiosity, ability to feign social cues to such an extent that it appears genuine to regulars, and willingness to escalate their depravity when they've grown bored with garden-variety cruelty are a lethal combination.
21st Nov '17 8:56:30 PM HasturHasturHastur
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* DickDastardlyStopsToCheat: Giving up an advantage just to hurt someone, while definitely stupid, petty, and pointless, can also be a Moral Event Horizon if it involves a truly heinous act.

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* DickDastardlyStopsToCheat: Giving up an advantage just to hurt someone, while definitely stupid, petty, and pointless, can also be a Moral Event Horizon if it involves a truly heinous act.act due to the underlying thought process: they care less about winning and more about inflicting harm, and they're totally willing to throw away what was a guaranteed victory just to indulge in petty cruelty.
19th Nov '17 6:43:07 PM Peridonyx
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* Jonathan Coachman crossed it during his DisproportionateRetribution phase against Wrestling/JohnCena and his father -- an elderly non-wrestler, by the way -- for invoking admittedly NecessaryEvil extremes against Wrestling/RandyOrton for repeatedly terrorizing them at the time.

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* Jonathan Coachman crossed it during his DisproportionateRetribution phase against Wrestling/JohnCena and his father -- an (an elderly non-wrestler, by the way -- non-wrestler) for invoking their admittedly NecessaryEvil NecessarilyEvil extremes against Wrestling/RandyOrton for repeatedly terrorizing them at the time.



* Wrestling/RomanReigns driving an ambulance with Wrestling/BraunStrowman inside into a production truck with a clear attempt to murder him. And that's after [[SoreLoser he lost a match to Strowman]]. And he's supposed to be the ''face'' here.

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* Wrestling/RomanReigns driving an ambulance with Wrestling/BraunStrowman inside into a production truck with a clear seeming attempt to murder him. And that's after [[SoreLoser he lost a match to Strowman]]. And he's supposed to be the ''face'' here. [[note]]Granted, this might be mitigated as PayEvilUntoEvil, given Strowman's own viciousness against Reigns and many others.[[/note]]
18th Nov '17 12:45:42 PM Njein
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* CainAndAbel: SiblingRivalry gone too far to the point that they're now at each other's necks for a variety of reasons, such as ParentalFavoritism, being passed over for inheritance, etc. Usually ends up with one sibling killing the other.



* EvilFeelsGood: Being on TheDarkSide after a FaceHeelTurn makes a character feel good committing evil deeds.



* ForTheEvulz: Many usually KickTheDog for no reason than EvilFeelsGood and to get a sick kick at others' expense.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: The character will react with remorse after he/she crosses the Moral Event Horizon.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: The character will react with great remorse after he/she crosses the Moral Event Horizon.
18th Nov '17 6:03:59 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* DickDastardlyStopsToCheat: Giving up an advantage just to hurt someone, while definitely stupid, petty, and pointless, can also be a Moral Event Horizon if it involves a truly heinous act.


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* TheFarmerAndTheViper: Rewarding selfless acts of kindness with wanton cruelty can absolutely be a Moral Event Horizon.
17th Nov '17 9:35:25 PM HasturHasturHastur
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* StupidEvil: Characters who act like this tend to cross the MEH with alarming regularity, as the behavior is inherently pointless and purposeless and they also very frequently escalate their behavior when they've grown bored with garden-variety cruelty. If a character with a long history of being a massive dick for no good reason decides to seriously up the ante, it's probably going to be an MEH.
15th Nov '17 6:39:17 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* KnightTemplar: A character with this mindset may enter the Moral Event Horizon while either being deluded enough to believe that their actions were just or knowing that their means are unjust but truly believing that the ends will vindicate them.

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* KnightTemplar: A character with this mindset may enter One of the Moral Event Horizon while most frequent crossers of the MEH, as moral absolutism, extreme ruthlessness, and a self-reinforcing code of ethics are a lethal combination. They also tend to be horrible at realizing the error of their ways, as they're usually either being too deluded enough to realize that they're in the wrong or (more favorably) at least know that their methodology is extremely questionable but believe that their actions were just or knowing that their means are unjust but truly believing that the ends outcome will vindicate them.



* PayEvilUntoEvil: Like KickTheSonOfABitch, it involves harm befalling someone who really had it coming. Unlike that trope, the perpetrator is motivated by a desire to mete out justice and the victim's contemptible nature plays a central role in the decision to inflict harm upon them. It may still be an MEH (though much more rarely) if RevengeByProxy was involved or if the perpetrator was, at the core, motivated more by impersonal malice than anything else and was just looking for a good excuse to hurt someone.

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* PayEvilUntoEvil: Like KickTheSonOfABitch, it involves harm befalling someone who really had it coming. Unlike that trope, the perpetrator is motivated by a desire to mete out justice and the victim's contemptible nature plays a central role in the decision to inflict harm upon them. It may still be an MEH (though much more rarely) if RevengeByProxy was involved involved, the act was DisproportionateRetribution, or if the perpetrator was, at the core, motivated more by impersonal malice than anything else and was just looking for a good excuse to hurt someone.someone. Basically, if someone can say "yeah, they were a scumbag, but they didn't deserve ''that''", chances are good that it crossed into an MEH.
14th Nov '17 12:36:24 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* EasilyForgiven / InsaneForgiveness: Sometimes, acts that really should be unforgivable are shrugged off in-universe (only).

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* EasilyForgiven / InsaneForgiveness: EasilyForgiven: Sometimes, acts that really should be seem unforgivable are shrugged off in-universe (only).in-universe.
9th Nov '17 12:28:00 AM FruityOatyBars
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A CompleteMonster lives on the other side of the Moral Event Horizon, but crossing the Moral Event Horizon does ''not'' automatically imply that the crosser is a CompleteMonster. The character can just be a bad person (and maybe even [[WellIntentionedExtremist somewhat]] [[AntiVillain sympathetic]]); the Moral Event Horizon is a black mark in their history that can never be forgiven. A character who performs an act that should make them irredeemale but somehow gets away with it is a KarmaHoudini. Unless [[HeelRealization they realize it]], [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feel horrible]], and [[TheAtoner work their ass off to atone for that crossing]]. Then maybe it'll evolve into ForgivenButNotForgotten; that one crossing certainly will stay as a black mark, but they're working to be a better person. Such instances, however, are rare.

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A CompleteMonster lives on the other side of the Moral Event Horizon, but crossing the Moral Event Horizon does ''not'' automatically imply that the crosser is a CompleteMonster. The character can just be a bad person (and maybe even [[WellIntentionedExtremist somewhat]] [[AntiVillain sympathetic]]); the Moral Event Horizon is a black mark in their history that can never be forgiven. A character who performs an act that should make them irredeemale irredeemable but somehow gets away with it is a KarmaHoudini. Unless [[HeelRealization they realize it]], [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feel horrible]], and [[TheAtoner work their ass off to atone for that crossing]]. Then maybe it'll evolve into ForgivenButNotForgotten; that one crossing certainly will stay as a black mark, but they're working to be a better person. Such instances, however, are rare.



* HeelFaceDoorSlam: A HeelFaceTurn and/or an apology is ''attempted'', but for whatever reason(s) is rejected; in other words, it's too little, too late, and beyond.

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* HeelFaceDoorSlam: A HeelFaceTurn and/or an apology is ''attempted'', but for whatever reason(s) is rejected; in other words, it's too little, too late, and beyond.late.
3rd Oct '17 9:30:49 PM 313Bluestreak
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* SuicideDare: Telling someone to kill themselves is a heartless act.
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