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18th Mar '17 5:53:20 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', what establishes Griffin Grey as a villain is him kindapping Dr. Wells, which he did because he was dying and desperately wanted to find a cure. When Barry kidnapped someone (not a villain) for less understandable reason few episodes earlier no one cared.

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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', what establishes Griffin Grey as a villain is him kindapping Dr. Wells, which he did because he was dying and desperately wanted to find a cure. When Barry kidnapped someone (not a villain) for less understandable reason a few episodes earlier no one cared.
6th Mar '17 7:47:56 AM HighCrate
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** The game has two side quests where you can help people with romantic complications. In Girdershade, Ronald Laren wants you to get him a full case of Nuka-Cola Quantum so he can wow his neighbor Sierra, a die-hard fan of the stuff, and (he hopes) convince her to put out for him. (If you do so, she's grateful but misunderstands his advances and doesn't sleep with him; he doesn't pursue the matter further.) This gives you bad karma. In Rivet City, Angela has the hots for young, celibate acolyte Diego, who has his heart set on becoming a priest. To "help" them, you have to provide Angela with the [[FantasticDrug pheromones of a mutated ant queen]] which will make her irresistible enough for Diego to do the dirty deed with her... and once it wears off, he's kicked out of the priesthood and married off to Angela. Your "helpful assistance" nets you good karma. Help a man give a woman he likes a gift: evil. Help a woman [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale drug and date rape a man]]: good.

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** The game has two side quests where you can help people with romantic complications. In Girdershade, Ronald Laren wants you to get him a full case of Nuka-Cola Quantum so he can wow his neighbor Sierra, a die-hard fan of the stuff, and (he hopes) convince her to put out for him. (If you do so, she's grateful but misunderstands his advances and doesn't sleep with him; he doesn't pursue the matter further.) This gives you bad karma. In Rivet City, Angela has the hots for young, celibate acolyte Diego, who has his heart set on becoming a priest. To "help" them, you have to provide Angela with the [[FantasticDrug pheromones of a mutated ant queen]] which will make her literally irresistible for long enough for to seduce Diego to do the dirty deed with her...into a one-night stand... and once it wears off, he's kicked out of the priesthood and married off to Angela. Your "helpful assistance" nets you good karma. Help a man give a woman he likes a gift: evil. Help a woman [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale drug and date rape a man]]: good.
6th Mar '17 7:46:18 AM HighCrate
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** It has two side quests where you can help people with romantic complications. In Girdershade, Ronald Laren wants you to get him a full case of Nuka-Cola Quantum so he can wow his neighbor Sierra, a die-hard fan of the stuff, and (he hopes) convince her to put out for him. This gives you bad karma. In Rivet City, Angela has the hots for young, celibate acolyte Diego, who likes her but really has his heart set on becoming a priest. To "help" them, you have to provide Angela with pheromones which will make her irresistible enough for Diego to do the dirty deed with her... and once it wears off, he's kicked out of the priesthood and married off to Angela. Your helpful assistance nets you good karma.

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** It The game has two side quests where you can help people with romantic complications. In Girdershade, Ronald Laren wants you to get him a full case of Nuka-Cola Quantum so he can wow his neighbor Sierra, a die-hard fan of the stuff, and (he hopes) convince her to put out for him. (If you do so, she's grateful but misunderstands his advances and doesn't sleep with him; he doesn't pursue the matter further.) This gives you bad karma. In Rivet City, Angela has the hots for young, celibate acolyte Diego, who likes her but really has his heart set on becoming a priest. To "help" them, you have to provide Angela with the [[FantasticDrug pheromones of a mutated ant queen]] which will make her irresistible enough for Diego to do the dirty deed with her... and once it wears off, he's kicked out of the priesthood and married off to Angela. Your helpful assistance "helpful assistance" nets you good karma. karma. Help a man give a woman he likes a gift: evil. Help a woman [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale drug and date rape a man]]: good.
6th Mar '17 5:25:33 AM MagBas
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** It has two side quests where you can help people with romantic complications. In Girdershade, Ronald Laren wants you to get him a full case of Nuka-Cola Quantum so he can wow his neighbor Sierra, a die-hard fan of the stuff, and (he hopes) convince her to put out for him. This gives you bad karma. In Rivet City, Angela has the hots for young, celibate acolyte Diego, who likes her but really has his heart set on becoming a priest. To "help" them, you have to provide Angela with pheromones which will make her irresistible enough for Diego to do the dirty deed with her... and once it wears off, he's kicked out of the priesthood and married off to a woman who ''drugged and date-raped him''. Your helpful assistance nets you good karma. Cue DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale.

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** It has two side quests where you can help people with romantic complications. In Girdershade, Ronald Laren wants you to get him a full case of Nuka-Cola Quantum so he can wow his neighbor Sierra, a die-hard fan of the stuff, and (he hopes) convince her to put out for him. This gives you bad karma. In Rivet City, Angela has the hots for young, celibate acolyte Diego, who likes her but really has his heart set on becoming a priest. To "help" them, you have to provide Angela with pheromones which will make her irresistible enough for Diego to do the dirty deed with her... and once it wears off, he's kicked out of the priesthood and married off to a woman who ''drugged and date-raped him''.Angela. Your helpful assistance nets you good karma. Cue DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale.
6th Mar '17 3:22:29 AM NNinja
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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in ''VideoGame/VandalHearts'' where the BigBad, after revealing his plot to [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt cleanse the world]], partly as an [[DisproportionateRetribution act of vengeance for his father's death]], partly because he's AxCrazy, makes [[TheHero the hero's]] PatrickStewartSpeech backfire.
-->'''Ash''': You're wrong! Though this world may be wicked, life itself is precious! Good and evil, love and hate. Each man contains the potential for both. You would exterminate mankind for their sins? I would fight the gods themselves to save them!\\
'''Dolf''': [[ShutUpKirk Sanctimonious whelp!]] [[NotSoDifferent How many souls have you yourself released from their corporeal bondage?]]
20th Feb '17 8:12:56 PM HighCrate
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'':
** In the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E18UpTheLongLadder Up the Long Ladder]]", a population of clones is dying out from [[CloneDegeneration a lack of genetic variation in their people]]. They ask if they can use the Enterprise crew to make clones to help them expand their population but when the entire crew refuses, they drug Riker and Pulaski and create clones of them anyway. Awful though this is, when Riker and Pulaski find the room with their growing clones, they calmly ''murder them all'' without the slightest moral qualm. These are living, if-not-yet-aware-and-sentient beings, but no one calls Riker or Pulaski out on this, despite the fact that she is a ''doctor'' and (you would think) therefore should do no harm. Immediately after that, they force the clones to marry a group of [[UsefulNotes/IrishTravellers Irish Traveller]]-like colonists from another world by threatening to take away their cloning technology on the grounds that the clones need to relearn sexual reproduction and the two groups can provide "breeding stock" (yes, those are the words that Pulaski uses to describe these people) for each other.
** Capt. Janeway of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' regularly ran into this, since ''Voyager'''s disregard for consistency meant that her moral perspectives were prone to change, often radically, DependingOnTheWriter. More than once, she would chew out crew members for morally ambiguous decisions that she would equal or exceed only a few episodes later. Even Kate Mulgrew had no idea how her character's mind worked, leading to her proposing at one point that Janeway suffered from some kind of bipolar disorder.
** So, it's wrong to discriminate against people based on race, ethnicity, or species, but ''legally enforced'' discrimination against genetic augments is okay because a bunch of them were vicious dictators ''on parts of one planet'' several hundred years ago? How does that work out? Ask the guy who wrote the ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' episode: "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr. Bashir, I Presume]]".
*** ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' originally established that genetic augments took over most parts of the world in the 1990s (the Eugenics Wars) before they were driven. It was after this that gene therapy and genetic engineering were banned (except for treating genetic disorders) as people had abused it to make Nietzschean supermen. It's still done on the black market, but many of the treatments are flawed and result in problems for those affected.
20th Feb '17 6:34:48 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'': Valentine is perfectly okay with committing global genocide, as long as he's not directly witnessing it. He also genuinely feels awful about [[spoiler:shooting Harry]]... and goes on to say that, while he's not fine with killing anyone personally, he's fine with making them kill each other.
20th Feb '17 6:33:19 PM Brainiac0982
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** So, it's wrong to discriminate against people based on race, ethnicity, or species, but ''legally enforced'' discrimination against genetic augments is okay because a bunch of them were vicious dictators ''on parts of one planet'' several hundred years ago? How does that work out? Ask the guy who wrote the ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine'' episode: "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr. Bashir, I Presume]]".

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** So, it's wrong to discriminate against people based on race, ethnicity, or species, but ''legally enforced'' discrimination against genetic augments is okay because a bunch of them were vicious dictators ''on parts of one planet'' several hundred years ago? How does that work out? Ask the guy who wrote the ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine'' Nine]]'' episode: "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr. Bashir, I Presume]]".
19th Jan '17 12:16:17 PM luord
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* ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'': Valentine is perfectly okay with committing global genocide, as long as he's not directly witnessing it. He also genuinely feels awful about [[spoiler:shooting Harry]]... and goes on to say that, while he's not fine with killing anyone personally, he's fine with making them kill each other.
16th Dec '16 12:26:34 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', what establishes Griffin Grey as a villain is him kindapping Dr. Wells, which he did because he was dying and desperately wanted to find a cure. When Barry kidnapped someone(not a villain) for less understandable reason few episodes earlier no one cared.

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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', what establishes Griffin Grey as a villain is him kindapping Dr. Wells, which he did because he was dying and desperately wanted to find a cure. When Barry kidnapped someone(not someone (not a villain) for less understandable reason few episodes earlier no one cared.
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