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16th Jul '17 10:54:10 AM nombretomado
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* In books, films and accounts of WW2, the T34 is this trope, at least in German-sympathetic accounts. Many authors focus on Tiger and Panther tanks sweeping forward, knocking out T34's by the dozen. This is despite the fact that initially, the T34 tank outclassed anything the Germans could field. The T34 medium and its heavy partner the KV-1 were capable of turning the average 1941 panzer tank into Mook Mobiles. (There is an account of a single KV-1 knocking out THIRTY panzers in a single engagement). By 1944 the Germans had a far smaller number of better tanks which could turn a T34/76 unit into a scrapyard.

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* In books, films and accounts of WW2, [=WW2=], the T34 [=T34=] is this trope, at least in German-sympathetic accounts. Many authors focus on Tiger and Panther tanks sweeping forward, knocking out T34's [=T34=]'s by the dozen. This is despite the fact that initially, the T34 tank outclassed anything the Germans could field. The T34 [=T34=] medium and its heavy partner the KV-1 were capable of turning the average 1941 panzer tank into Mook Mobiles. (There is an account of a single KV-1 knocking out THIRTY panzers in a single engagement). By 1944 the Germans had a far smaller number of better tanks which could turn a T34/76 [=T34=]/76 unit into a scrapyard.
22nd Apr '17 2:58:44 AM Getta
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6th Apr '17 9:08:27 AM Mhazard
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** The name "Zaku" is also derived from the Japanese term "Zako" [[note]]雑魚, literally "inferior fish"[[/note]], in which the term means "[[MeaningfulName expendable grunts]]".

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** The name "Zaku" is also derived from the Japanese term "Zako" "[[MeaningfulName Zako]]" [[note]]雑魚, literally "inferior fish"[[/note]], in which the term means "[[MeaningfulName "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin expendable grunts]]".
6th Apr '17 9:07:44 AM Mhazard
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** The name "Zaku" is also derived from the Japanese term "Zako" [[note]]雑魚, literally "inferior fish"[[/note]], in which the term means "[[MeaningfulName expendable grunts]]".
5th Mar '17 9:29:13 AM nombretomado
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* Villain organizations in MarvelComics such as ComicBook/{{Hydra}}, AIM, and the Secret Empire all drive around on various hovercrafts, only to get shot down en masse by the heroes.

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* Villain organizations in MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics such as ComicBook/{{Hydra}}, AIM, and the Secret Empire all drive around on various hovercrafts, only to get shot down en masse by the heroes.
4th Dec '16 1:18:18 PM Morgenthaler
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* The ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games have a few iconic bot's of their own, in addition to many of the anime examples listed above. Most notably the [[http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091120235207/superrobotwars/images/7/7a/Gespenst.gif Gespenst]] series. Mind you, in these games even a regular grunt unit can be pretty {{Badass}} in the right hands. Watch [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWBTwDa4Wy4 here]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB4SP1sqU7g here]] as [[BadassNormal Major Kai]] demonstrates why you don't need no fancy AceCustom to kick ass. The closest to the trope is probably the DC built Lions. While actually packing a decent edge when first deployed (they all have Tesla Drives which allow atmospheric flight, something the Gespenst standard variation lacks) they are only vaguely human shaped, more like fighter jets with stumpy limbs, and have only one gun and a few missiles, with light armor leaving them much easier to destroy than the EFA Gespenst's. As a result while initially threatening in large numbers they die in droves, with only extremely skilled aces managing to keep themselves alive, let alone do damage, all of whom are very quickly given better machines to make better use of their skills. Still due to their cheap and easy production every side and rebel faction has some, and they continue to appear in every game, though any pilot worth their salt would quickly pick something better.

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* The ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games have a few iconic bot's of their own, in addition to many of the anime examples listed above. Most notably the [[http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091120235207/superrobotwars/images/7/7a/Gespenst.gif Gespenst]] series. Mind you, in these games even a regular grunt unit can be pretty {{Badass}} badass in the right hands. Watch [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWBTwDa4Wy4 here]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB4SP1sqU7g here]] as [[BadassNormal Major Kai]] demonstrates why you don't need no fancy AceCustom to kick ass. The closest to the trope is probably the DC built Lions. While actually packing a decent edge when first deployed (they all have Tesla Drives which allow atmospheric flight, something the Gespenst standard variation lacks) they are only vaguely human shaped, more like fighter jets with stumpy limbs, and have only one gun and a few missiles, with light armor leaving them much easier to destroy than the EFA Gespenst's. As a result while initially threatening in large numbers they die in droves, with only extremely skilled aces managing to keep themselves alive, let alone do damage, all of whom are very quickly given better machines to make better use of their skills. Still due to their cheap and easy production every side and rebel faction has some, and they continue to appear in every game, though any pilot worth their salt would quickly pick something better.
31st Oct '16 3:59:58 AM StFan
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In contrast to the AceCustom and SuperPrototype, the Mookmobile is the standard craft designated for Mooks to drive around and get blown up in. May be equipped with basic armaments and little in terms of protection. The hero or heroes may talk them up for dramatic purposes, but when engaged in actual combat, the Mook Mobiles die like flies. People may wonder if they're made out of cardboard and intentionally designed to kill the occupant inside without damage to the hero. But at least they're cheap to make!

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In contrast to the AceCustom and SuperPrototype, the Mookmobile Mook Mobile is the standard craft designated for Mooks to drive around and get blown up in. May be equipped with basic armaments and little in terms of protection. The hero or heroes may talk them up for dramatic purposes, but when engaged in actual combat, the Mook Mobiles die like flies. People may wonder if they're made out of cardboard and intentionally designed to kill the occupant inside without damage to the hero. But at least they're cheap to make!



* Goa'uld death gliders in the Franchise/StargateVerse. In the [[Film/{{Stargate}} movie]] and the first half of ''Series/StargateSG1'', they subverted the trope in that they were a serious threat to ground-bound SG teams (never mind bystanders), against which the only defense (other than running away) was a shoulder-fired missile or grenade launcher (not exactly something they carry around at all times). Once it entered service, the Tau'ri F-302 quickly proved itself far superior to the glider, which was built in line with [[AwesomeButImpractical the typical Goa'uld design philosophy]].

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* Goa'uld death gliders in the Franchise/StargateVerse. In the [[Film/{{Stargate}} movie]] and the first half of ''Series/StargateSG1'', they subverted subvert the trope in that they were are a serious threat to ground-bound SG teams (never mind bystanders), against which the only defense (other than running away) was is a shoulder-fired missile or grenade launcher (not exactly something they carry around at all times). Once it entered enters service, the Tau'ri F-302 quickly proved proves itself far superior to the glider, which was is built in line with [[AwesomeButImpractical the typical Goa'uld design philosophy]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime,'' the Vehicons are ''both'' Mooks and Mook Mobiles.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime,'' the ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime,'':
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Vehicons are ''both'' Mooks and Mook Mobiles.



** If it's set in the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, expect Russian [=MiGs=] to exhibit the flying and combat qualities of a poorly-thrown brick. Yes, ''even in documentaries'', although it was {{Averted}} on History Channel's Dogfights series. You'll frequently see the same thing happen to their tanks.
** This is a result of the fact that the Soviets fought the UsefulNotes/ColdWar by proxy, and the reason Soviet gear was always available in plenty was because, outside the Soviet military and a select few allies, it came in "Monkey Models", which were significantly downgraded - for instance, the T-72 has early composite armor, but the T-72M had simple rolled steel (granted, as thick as the [[TankGoodness friggin' Maus]] in [[AttackItsWeakPoint some places]]). Combine that with subpar training, [[GeneralFailure tactical ineptitude]], supply problems, and often [[LensmanArmsRace Western gear being from a newer generation]], and, well... When your fancy tanks like the [[YanksWithTanks Abrams]] (1990s, 120 mm smoothbore main gun) face T-55s (1950s, 100 mm rifled main gun) with the occasional, similar-looking T-72 (1980s, 125 mm smoothbore, mostly assembled from spare parts by Iraqis), with undertrained and demoralized crews, suffering from constant [[DeathFromAbove aerial attacks]] and armed with training ammunition (mild steel rounds instead of tungsten or depleted uranium), [[CurbStompBattle the result is predictable]]. And this is called CombatPragmatism, not bad tanks.
* In books, films and accounts of WW2, the T34 is this trope, at least in German-sympathetic accounts. Many authors focus on Tiger and Panther tanks sweeping forward, knocking out T34's by the dozen. This is despite the fact that initially, the T34 tank outclassed anything the Germans could field. The T34 medium and its heavy partner the KV-1 were capable of turning the average 1941 panzer tank into Mookmobiles. (There is an account of a single KV-1 knocking out THIRTY panzers in a single engagement). By 1944 the Germans had a far smaller number of better tanks which could turn a T34/76 unit into a scrapyard.

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** If it's set in the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, expect Russian [=MiGs=] to exhibit the flying and combat qualities of a poorly-thrown brick. Yes, ''even in documentaries'', although it was {{Averted}} on History Channel's Dogfights ''Dogfights'' series. You'll frequently see the same thing happen to their tanks.
** This is a result of the fact that the Soviets fought the UsefulNotes/ColdWar by proxy, and the reason Soviet gear was always available in plenty was because, outside the Soviet military and a select few allies, it came in "Monkey Models", which were significantly downgraded - -- for instance, the T-72 has early composite armor, but the T-72M had simple rolled steel (granted, as thick as the [[TankGoodness friggin' Maus]] in [[AttackItsWeakPoint some places]]). Combine that with subpar training, [[GeneralFailure tactical ineptitude]], supply problems, and often [[LensmanArmsRace Western gear being from a newer generation]], and, well... When your fancy tanks like the [[YanksWithTanks Abrams]] (1990s, 120 mm smoothbore main gun) face T-55s (1950s, 100 mm rifled main gun) with the occasional, similar-looking T-72 (1980s, 125 mm smoothbore, mostly assembled from spare parts by Iraqis), with undertrained and demoralized crews, suffering from constant [[DeathFromAbove aerial attacks]] and armed with training ammunition (mild steel rounds instead of tungsten or depleted uranium), [[CurbStompBattle the result is predictable]]. And this is called CombatPragmatism, not bad tanks.
* In books, films and accounts of WW2, the T34 is this trope, at least in German-sympathetic accounts. Many authors focus on Tiger and Panther tanks sweeping forward, knocking out T34's by the dozen. This is despite the fact that initially, the T34 tank outclassed anything the Germans could field. The T34 medium and its heavy partner the KV-1 were capable of turning the average 1941 panzer tank into Mookmobiles.Mook Mobiles. (There is an account of a single KV-1 knocking out THIRTY panzers in a single engagement). By 1944 the Germans had a far smaller number of better tanks which could turn a T34/76 unit into a scrapyard.



8th Aug '16 9:23:52 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Every Covenant ground vehicle in ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', with the Ghost, Wraith and Banshee being the most common. If you're on foot with only an assault rifle, they can be deadly (especially in the [[VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved first game]], which had no boarding). But once you get a vehicle of your own, they're often doomed by {{Artificial Stupidity}} and weak weaponry; the Wraiths are the only ones with weaponry that can consistently damage your Scorpion tank, and their projectiles tend to be slow and easy to dodge. Standout examples are "Metropolis" in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}'' where you take a tank down a highway and destroy about 20 Ghosts along with several Wraiths and Banshees [[TankGoodness in a row]], "Tsavo Highway" in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' where you take on almost two dozen Choppers and Prowlers around a highway overpass, and the air battle in ''3''[='s=] "The Covenant" where you alone in a Hornet can single-handedly destroy a swarm of Banshees with ease.

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* Every Covenant ground vehicle in ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', with the Ghost, Wraith and Banshee being the most common. If you're on foot with only an assault rifle, they can be deadly (especially in the [[VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved first game]], which had no boarding). But once you get a vehicle of your own, they're often doomed by {{Artificial Stupidity}} and weak weaponry; the Wraiths are the only ones with weaponry that can consistently damage your Scorpion tank, and their projectiles tend to be slow and easy to dodge. Standout examples are "Metropolis" in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}'' where you take a tank down a highway and destroy about 20 Ghosts along with several Wraiths and Banshees [[TankGoodness in a row]], "Tsavo Highway" in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' where you take on almost two dozen Choppers and Prowlers around a highway overpass, and the air battle in ''3''[='s=] "The Covenant" where you alone in a Hornet can single-handedly destroy a swarm of Banshees with ease. That said, Covenant vehicles are quite deadly in ''multiplayer'' if they have a competent pilot.
8th Aug '16 9:22:14 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Every ground vehicle in the Covenant Army in ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', with the Ghost, Wraith and Banshee being the most common. If you're on foot with only an assault rifle, they can be deadly (especially in the first game, with no boarding). But once you get a vehicle of your own, they're doomed by {{Artificial Stupidity}} and weak weaponry; the Wraiths are the only ones with weaponry that can actually damage the light Scorpion tanks you can drive, and their projectiles are slow and easy to dodge. Standout examples are a level in ''Halo 2'' where you take a tank down a highway and destroy about 20 Ghosts along with several Wraiths and Banshees [[TankGoodness in a row]], Tsavo Highway in ''Halo 3'' where you take on almost two dozen Choppers and Prowlers around a highway overpass, and the air battle in the Covenant where you in a Hornet can single-handedly destroy a swarm of Banshees with ease.

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* Every Covenant ground vehicle in the Covenant Army in ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', with the Ghost, Wraith and Banshee being the most common. If you're on foot with only an assault rifle, they can be deadly (especially in the [[VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved first game, with game]], which had no boarding). But once you get a vehicle of your own, they're often doomed by {{Artificial Stupidity}} and weak weaponry; the Wraiths are the only ones with weaponry that can actually consistently damage the light your Scorpion tanks you can drive, tank, and their projectiles are tend to be slow and easy to dodge. Standout examples are a level "Metropolis" in ''Halo 2'' ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}'' where you take a tank down a highway and destroy about 20 Ghosts along with several Wraiths and Banshees [[TankGoodness in a row]], Tsavo Highway "Tsavo Highway" in ''Halo 3'' ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' where you take on almost two dozen Choppers and Prowlers around a highway overpass, and the air battle in the Covenant ''3''[='s=] "The Covenant" where you alone in a Hornet can single-handedly destroy a swarm of Banshees with ease.
7th Apr '16 3:30:19 PM Laevatein
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** The Federation's mass-produced mobile suit, the GM, even has the FanNickname of "[=GruntMobile=]".
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