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26th Jan '17 1:24:02 AM Xtifr
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# '''Mohs/SpeculativeScience:''' Stories in which there is no "big lie" -- the science of the tale is (or [[ScienceMarchesOn was]]) genuine speculative science or engineering, and the goal of the author to make as few errors with respect to known fact as possible. The first two books in Robert L. Forward's ''Rocheworld'' series and Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/TheMoonIsAHarshMistress'' fall in this class.\\

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# '''Mohs/SpeculativeScience:''' Stories in which there is no "big lie" -- the science of the tale is (or [[ScienceMarchesOn was]]) genuine speculative science or engineering, and the goal of the author to make as few errors with respect to known fact as possible. The first two books in Robert L. Forward's Creator/RobertLForward's ''Rocheworld'' series and Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/TheMoonIsAHarshMistress'' fall in this class.\\
21st Jan '17 3:22:19 PM Xtifr
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* '''In hard SF:''' "A good question with an interesting answer. [[{{Infodump}} Please have a seat while I bring you up to speed]] on the latest ideas in quantum theory, after which I will spend a chapter detailing an elaborate, yet plausible-sounding connection between quantum states, the unified field theory, and the means by which the brain stores memory, all tied into theories from both UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein [[SmallReferencePools and]] StephenHawking."

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* '''In hard SF:''' "A good question with an interesting answer. [[{{Infodump}} Please have a seat while I bring you up to speed]] on the latest ideas in quantum theory, after which I will spend a chapter detailing an elaborate, yet plausible-sounding connection between quantum states, the unified field theory, and the means by which the brain stores memory, all tied into theories from both UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein [[SmallReferencePools and]] StephenHawking.Creator/StephenHawking."
21st Jan '17 3:21:01 PM Xtifr
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# '''Mohs/OneBigLie:''' Authors of works in this class invent one (or, at most, a very few) counterfactual physical laws and writes a story that explores the implications of these principles. Most works in Creator/AlanDeanFoster's ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' series, the Ad Astra board games and Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/FarnhamsFreehold'' fall in this category, as do many of {{Vernor Vinge}}'s books.\\

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# '''Mohs/OneBigLie:''' Authors of works in this class invent one (or, at most, a very few) counterfactual physical laws and writes a story that explores the implications of these principles. Most works in Creator/AlanDeanFoster's ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' series, the Ad Astra board games and Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/FarnhamsFreehold'' fall in this category, as do many of {{Vernor Vinge}}'s Creator/VernorVinge's books.\\
21st Jan '17 1:43:45 PM BreadBull
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''Note 4:'' Sometimes a study hits the news that, if confirmed, would reassign many works on the scale. For example, [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/8782895/CERN-scientists-break-the-speed-of-light.html the September 2011 OPERA experiment which measured faster-than-light travel by neutrinos]] might have moved works whose Mohs/OneBigLie was FTLTravel into the Mohs/SpeculativeScience category. There are three reasons to be cautious about doing so: first, because mass media reporting of scientific results is often inaccurate due to the difficulty of presenting technical results to a non-technical audience; second, because revolutionary new results (and results in the ''news'' are generally new) are far more likely to be overturned than they appear (indeed, the OPERA anomaly was [[http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/02/breaking-news-error-undoes-faster-light-neutrino-results caused by faulty equipment]]); and third, for purposes of the Scale, the yardstick of scientific plausibility is what the science said ''at the time the work was written'', not what [[ScienceMarchesOn scientists discovered later]].

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''Note 4:'' Sometimes a study hits the news that, if confirmed, would reassign many works on the scale. For example, [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/8782895/CERN-scientists-break-the-speed-of-light.html the September 2011 OPERA experiment which measured faster-than-light travel by neutrinos]] might have moved works whose Mohs/OneBigLie was FTLTravel into the Mohs/SpeculativeScience category. There are three reasons to be cautious about doing so: first, because mass media reporting of scientific results is often inaccurate due to the difficulty of presenting technical results to a non-technical audience; second, because revolutionary new results (and results in the ''news'' are generally new) are far more likely to be overturned than they appear (indeed, the OPERA anomaly was [[http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/02/breaking-news-error-undoes-faster-light-neutrino-results caused by faulty equipment]]); and third, for purposes of the Scale, the yardstick of scientific plausibility is what the science said ''at the time the work was written'', not what [[ScienceMarchesOn scientists discovered later]].
later]]. If the story in question was based on a scientific model that, while now discredited, was widely accepted in its day, it still qualifies as "hard" science fiction because the author [[FairForItsDay did his best]] ''[[FairForItsDay with the information available at the time]]''.



''Note 7:'' Keep in mind that ScienceMarchesOn when categorizing older works. If the story in question was based on a scientific model that, while now discredited, was widely accepted in its day, it still qualifies as "hard" science fiction because the author [[FairForItsDay did his best]] ''[[FairForItsDay with the information available at the time]]''.

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''Note 7:'' Keep in mind that ScienceMarchesOn when categorizing older works. If the story in question was based on a scientific model that, while now discredited, was widely accepted in its day, it still qualifies as "hard" science fiction because the author [[FairForItsDay did his best]] ''[[FairForItsDay with the information available at the time]]''.

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* '''In medium SF:''' "You sit in this seat, set the date you want, and [[Film/BackToTheFuture drive to 88 mph]]."
2nd Oct '16 10:17:24 PM MorganBaines
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* '''In medium SF:''' "You sit in this seat, set the date you want, and [[Film/BackToTheFuture drive to 88 mph]]."
20th Sep '16 12:07:33 PM Korados
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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: 5. This work leans heavily into Mohs/SpeculativeScience -- the science of the tale is (or was) genuine speculative science or engineering, and the goal of the author to make as few errors with respect to known fact as possible.

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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: Mohs Scale Of Science Fiction Hardness: 5. This work leans heavily into Mohs/SpeculativeScience -- the science of the tale is (or was) genuine speculative science or engineering, and the goal of the author to make as few errors with respect to known fact as possible.
9th Aug '16 4:51:49 PM MarkLungo
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# '''Mohs/OneBigLie:''' Authors of works in this class invent one (or, at most, a very few) counterfactual physical laws and writes a story that explores the implications of these principles. Most works in Creator/AlanDeanFoster's ''HumanxCommonwealth'' series, the Ad Astra board games and Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/FarnhamsFreehold'' fall in this category, as do many of {{Vernor Vinge}}'s books.\\

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# '''Mohs/OneBigLie:''' Authors of works in this class invent one (or, at most, a very few) counterfactual physical laws and writes a story that explores the implications of these principles. Most works in Creator/AlanDeanFoster's ''HumanxCommonwealth'' ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' series, the Ad Astra board games and Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/FarnhamsFreehold'' fall in this category, as do many of {{Vernor Vinge}}'s books.\\



A subclass of this (5.5 on the scale) is ''Futurology:'' stories which function almost like a prediction of the future, extrapolating from current technology rather than inventing major new technologies or discoveries. (Naturally, {{Zeerust}} is common in older entries.) ''Film/{{Gattaca}}'', Manga/{{Planetes}}, ''TabletopGame/TranshumanSpace'' and the more SpeculativeFiction works of Creator/JulesVerne fall in this subclass.

# '''RealLife''' (aka Fiction in Genre Only): A SharedUniverse which spawned its own genre, known as "NonFiction". Despite the various problems noted at RealityIsUnrealistic, it is almost universally agreed that there is no other universe known so thoroughly worked out from established scientific principles. [[UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} The Apollo Program]], WorldWarII, {{a|rsonMurderAndJaywalking}}nd {{Woodstock}} fall in this class.

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A subclass of this (5.5 on the scale) is ''Futurology:'' stories which function almost like a prediction of the future, extrapolating from current technology rather than inventing major new technologies or discoveries. (Naturally, {{Zeerust}} is common in older entries.) ''Film/{{Gattaca}}'', Manga/{{Planetes}}, ''Manga/{{Planetes}}'', ''TabletopGame/TranshumanSpace'' and the more SpeculativeFiction works of Creator/JulesVerne fall in this subclass.

# '''RealLife''' (aka Fiction in Genre Only): A SharedUniverse which spawned its own genre, known as "NonFiction". Despite the various problems noted at RealityIsUnrealistic, it is almost universally agreed that there is no other universe known so thoroughly worked out from established scientific principles. [[UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} The Apollo Program]], WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, {{a|rsonMurderAndJaywalking}}nd {{Woodstock}} Film/{{Woodstock}} fall in this class.
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