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8th Nov '17 2:41:57 AM bt8257
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* G: 1-3
* PG: 4-5
* [=PG13=]: 6-7
* R: 8-9
* [=NC17=]: 10-11

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* G: 1-3
13
* PG: 4-5
45
* [=PG13=]: 6-7
PG-13: 67
* R: 8-9
89
* [=NC17=]: 10-11
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25th Aug '17 2:10:47 AM Nick98
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# This is most DeathMetal and BlackMetal[='=]s home level. Lyrics start to get positively disturbing and/or {{gorn}}y and the singer will always be growling or screaming, though clean vocals can be used for [[SopranoAndGravel contrast]] or [[OneWomanWail for]] [[OminousLatinChanting sound]] [[CreepyChildrenSinging effects]]. The hardest variants of ThrashMetal,[[note]]especially German thrash metal[[/note]] MelodicDeathMetal,[[note]]See the examples from Septicflesh and The Black Dahlia Murder at this level[[/note]] and viking/folk metal can hit this point, but that is quite uncommon. At this point hardcore bands become indistinguishable from metal to anyone who's not a loyal fan of both genres, since hardcore at this level is blatantly influenced by metal. Likewise, Thrash Metal on this level can sound pretty close to Death Metal to the uninitiated. AvantGardeMetal can be found here, but it involves crossover with Extreme Metal genres at this point (see Music/{{Gorguts}} , Music/DeathspellOmega and [[Music/JohnZorn Naked City]] for examples) At this point HardcorePunk becomes {{grindcore}}, and while it is possible for a {{metalcore}} band to get this high, it's very rare, although this is Music/{{Chimaira}}, Music/{{Converge}} and Music/TheDillingerEscapePlan's home level, and Heaven Shall Burn often reaches this level as well. GrooveMetal at this level usually has a lot of DeathMetal influence.[[note]]See the examples from Chimaira, Fear Factory, [=DevilDriver=], Gojira, Meshuggah, Pantera and Slipknot at this level.[[/note]] {{Dubstep}} with a significant metal infusion ("metalstep"/"brostep") can also be found here.[[note]]Most of Music/{{Skrillex}}'s harsher output resides at this level.[[/note]] This is also where you start to see Funeral Doom, Drone Doom, and Death/Doom.

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# This is most DeathMetal and BlackMetal[='=]s home level. Lyrics start to get positively disturbing and/or {{gorn}}y and the singer will always be growling or screaming, though clean vocals can be used for [[SopranoAndGravel contrast]] or [[OneWomanWail for]] [[OminousLatinChanting sound]] [[CreepyChildrenSinging effects]]. The hardest variants of ThrashMetal,[[note]]especially German thrash metal[[/note]] MelodicDeathMetal,[[note]]See the examples from Septicflesh and The Black Dahlia Murder at this level[[/note]] and viking/folk metal can hit this point, but that is quite uncommon. At this point hardcore bands become indistinguishable from metal to anyone who's not a loyal fan of both genres, since hardcore at this level is blatantly influenced by metal. Likewise, Thrash Metal on this level can sound pretty close to Death Metal to the uninitiated. AvantGardeMetal can be found here, but it involves crossover with Extreme Metal genres at this point (see Music/{{Gorguts}} , Music/DeathspellOmega and [[Music/JohnZorn Naked City]] for examples) At this point HardcorePunk becomes {{grindcore}}, and while it is possible for a {{metalcore}} band to get this high, it's very rare, although this is Music/{{Chimaira}}, Music/{{Converge}} and Music/TheDillingerEscapePlan's home level, and Heaven Shall Burn often reaches this level as well.most {{Deathcore}} comfortably sits here. GrooveMetal at this level usually has a lot of DeathMetal influence.[[note]]See the examples from Chimaira, Fear Factory, [=DevilDriver=], Gojira, Meshuggah, Pantera and Slipknot at this level.[[/note]] {{Dubstep}} with a significant metal infusion ("metalstep"/"brostep") can also be found here.[[note]]Most of Music/{{Skrillex}}'s harsher output resides at this level.[[/note]] This is also where you start to see Funeral Doom, Drone Doom, and Death/Doom.
11th Jun '17 3:47:33 AM TT454
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* [=PG13=]:6-7

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* [=PG13=]:6-7[=PG13=]: 6-7
11th Jun '17 3:46:41 AM TT454
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!!!Suggestion for parental guidance level comparability:
* G: 1-3
* PG: 4-5
* [=PG13=]:6-7
* R: 8-9
* [=NC17=]: 10-11
31st May '17 4:30:42 AM LooneyCartoons
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# As soft as rock (and to an extent, most music) gets. May be an otherwise 2 song without any guitar to distort, or a song which is generally slow and light. Most acoustic music, baroque pop, and DreamPop can be found here. Additionally, folk without a significant rock influence is mostly here.

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# As soft as rock (and to an extent, most music) gets. May be an otherwise 2 song without any guitar to distort, or a song which is generally slow and light. Most acoustic music, baroque pop, and DreamPop can be found here. Additionally, folk without a significant rock influence is mostly here. Some early pop can also be found here.
9th May '17 6:14:38 PM Noisynoisy56
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# Soft rock and most pop. A lot of early rock can be found here. This is also the level where guitar distortion starts to appear. The lighter end of ClassicalMusic can also be found here. Pop ballads begin at this level. PostPunk starts appearing here. The softest AlternativeRock is found here.

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# Soft rock and most pop. A lot of early rock can be found here. This is also the level where guitar distortion starts to appear. The lighter end of ClassicalMusic can also be found here. Pop ballads begin at this level. PostPunk starts appearing here. The softest AlternativeRock is found here. At this point the instrumentation of Pop music is very soft and consist of bass sounds and a softer beats without dense layers of sounds.
2nd Apr '17 7:29:12 AM Nick98
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# UpToEleven: Music/AnalCunt is here, along with the harder side of [=grindcore=] especially the subgenres of pornogrind, noisegrind and goregrind. The most extreme DeathMetal (examples from the brutal death metal and slam death metal subgenres usually end up here) and BlackMetal [[note]]See Teitanblood's, Deathspell Omega's and Anaal Nathrakh's examples at this level[[/note]] also lies here. The very heaviest mathcore (technical[[note]]e.g. Ion Dissonance, Music/TheDillingerEscapePlan[[/note]], chaotic hardcore[[note]]e.g. Converge, Death Dust Extractor[[/note]]) can also reach this level. Most recently, DoomMetal has also managed to climb to this level; in recent years this level has become the province of death/doom, funeral doom, and drone metal[[note]]See [[Music/SunnO Sunn O)))]]'s and Music/{{Khanate}}'s examples at this level.[[/note]]. Crossovers of HeavyMetal and electronic music rarely get up to this level, but this is home to power electronics and most hardcore techno (especially speedcore and noisecore), and most of the hardest IDM/Braindance[[note]]See Autechre's, Venetian Snares's and Squarepusher's examples at this level, you will see...[[/note]], the most extreme drum and bass[[note]]Level 11 dnb will often have monster speed and may sound near-indistinguishable from industrial music to most people. Music/{{Noisia}}[='=]s harsher output resides here, for example.[[/note]] and dubstep[[note]]Level 11 dubstep will have a very harsh drop, heavily distorted bass and hardly any room for breathing. This is Music/{{Excision}}[='=]s home level, but other dubstep musicians such as Flux Pavilion, Doctor P, Skrillex and Devilman have managed to creep up here.[[/note]] can be found here too. Songs at this level often invoke auditory SensoryAbuse in [[HellIsThatNoise all]] [[BrownNote its]] [[ScareChord forms]], and can quickly become MostAnnoyingSound incarnate to many listeners. [[HarshVocals Growling]] or [[ScreamsLikeALittleGirl screaming]] will always sound [[TheUnintelligible unintelligible]] and almost inhuman, and often pitch-shifting or other computer-aided effects are used to drive the vocal range beyond what could normally be sustained during singing[[note]](astoundingly though, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ObHhRnvCqk not always]])[[/note]]. Cleans are virtually absent, but if cleans are present, they'll usually be a haunting OneWomanWail or OminousLatinChanting. Drums are so fast that it sounds like a ''solid wall of black noise'', or are so slow that a snare hits at the first second and the next beat ''never comes.'' Guitars and bass are heavier than a black hole, the heaviest known object in reality, and will (almost) surely sound like a chainsaw. Any and all electronic instrumentation will sound like a mess of chattering noise and beeping sounds. Production plays a ''very important'' role at this level: it may be [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth extremely raw and low-fi]], or [[LoudnessWar highly polished but intentionally brickwalled to deafening levels]]. In other words, [[WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}} the music is blacker than the blackest black times infinity.]] Significant elements of this class are [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible experimental]] in nature, although [[StealthParody stealth parodists]] commonly make their way up here as well.

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# UpToEleven: Music/AnalCunt is here, along with the harder side of [=grindcore=] especially the subgenres of pornogrind, noisegrind and goregrind. The most extreme DeathMetal (examples from the brutal death metal and slam death metal subgenres usually end up here) and BlackMetal [[note]]See Teitanblood's, Deathspell Omega's and Anaal Nathrakh's examples at this level[[/note]] also lies here. The very heaviest mathcore (technical[[note]]e.g. Ion Dissonance, Music/TheDillingerEscapePlan[[/note]], chaotic hardcore[[note]]e.g. Converge, Death Dust Extractor[[/note]]) can also reach this level. Most recently, DoomMetal has also managed to climb to this level; in recent years this level has become the province of death/doom, funeral doom, and drone metal[[note]]See [[Music/SunnO Sunn O)))]]'s and Music/{{Khanate}}'s examples at this level.[[/note]]. Crossovers of HeavyMetal and electronic music rarely get up to this level, but this is home to power electronics and most hardcore techno (especially speedcore and noisecore), and most of the hardest IDM/Braindance[[note]]See Autechre's, Venetian Snares's and Squarepusher's examples at this level, you will see...[[/note]], the most extreme drum and bass[[note]]Level 11 dnb will often have monster speed and may sound near-indistinguishable from industrial music to most people. Music/{{Noisia}}[='=]s harsher output resides here, for example.[[/note]] and dubstep[[note]]Level 11 dubstep will have a very harsh drop, heavily distorted bass and hardly any room for breathing. This is Music/{{Excision}}[='=]s home level, but other dubstep musicians such as Flux Pavilion, Doctor P, Skrillex and Devilman have managed to creep up here.[[/note]] can be found here too. Songs at this level often invoke auditory SensoryAbuse in [[HellIsThatNoise all]] [[BrownNote its]] [[ScareChord forms]], and can quickly become MostAnnoyingSound incarnate to many listeners. [[HarshVocals Growling]] or [[ScreamsLikeALittleGirl screaming]] will always sound [[TheUnintelligible unintelligible]] and almost inhuman, and often pitch-shifting or other computer-aided effects are used to drive the vocal range beyond what could normally be sustained during singing[[note]](astoundingly though, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ObHhRnvCqk not always]])[[/note]]. Cleans are virtually absent, but if cleans are present, they'll usually be a haunting OneWomanWail or OminousLatinChanting. Drums are so fast that it sounds like a ''solid wall of black noise'', or are so slow that a snare hits at the first second and the next beat ''never comes.'' Guitars and bass are heavier than a black hole, the heaviest known object in reality, and will (almost) surely sound like a chainsaw. Any and all electronic instrumentation will sound like a mess of chattering noise and beeping sounds. Production plays a ''very important'' role at this level: it may be [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth extremely raw and low-fi]], or [[LoudnessWar highly polished but intentionally brickwalled to deafening levels]]. In other words, the music in this level is [[WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}} the music is blacker than the blackest black times infinity.]] Significant elements of this class are [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible experimental]] in nature, although [[StealthParody stealth parodists]] commonly make their way up here as well.
28th Mar '17 3:06:06 PM Aspie1987
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# Most ThrashMetal, and heavier forms of PowerMetal along with some classic metal. HairMetal tends to creep into this level as well (think of early Music/XJapan or Music/{{Loudness}}). Lyrics are usually very dark at this point. Vocal style is usually a snarl (most thrash metal uses this singing type), but clean singing is also common. Occasionally [[HarshVocals growls]] and [[MetalScream screams]] will be employed. Most hardcore punk is here, as well as the lighter end of {{metalcore}} and crossover thrash (fusion of thrash metal and hardcore punk). Whether purists want to hear it or not, the lighter and more atmospheric side of BlackMetal also starts here as does very light MelodicDeathMetal. Grunge and post-grunge occasionally creep into this level as well. You'll also find yet more viking/folk metal populating this region. Most GrooveMetal is here. In general, this is also pretty much as hard as you can get with significant radio or MTV play or if you want your song featured in VideoGame/GuitarHero or VideoGame/RockBand (Music/{{Slayer}} seems to be curiously immune to this however). AlternativeMetal or NuMetal at this level usually has a lot of influence from more aggressive metal genres. The heavier sides of ProgressiveMetal can be found here. Of the Big 4 of Thrash, Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax were often found here, at least when they were still unambiguously thrash. This is also the point where pure {{Industrial}} and IndustrialMetal begin to sound almost indistinguishable from one another. {[Grunge}} rarely hits this level, and when it does its usually straight up Hardcore or DoomMetal. (see Alice in Chains' songs at this level).

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# Most ThrashMetal, and heavier forms of PowerMetal along with some classic metal. HairMetal tends to creep into this level as well (think of early Music/XJapan or Music/{{Loudness}}). Lyrics are usually very dark at this point. Vocal style is usually a snarl (most thrash metal uses this singing type), but clean singing is also common. Occasionally [[HarshVocals growls]] and [[MetalScream screams]] will be employed. Most hardcore punk is here, as well as the lighter end of {{metalcore}} and crossover thrash (fusion of thrash metal and hardcore punk). Whether purists want to hear it or not, the lighter and more atmospheric side of BlackMetal also starts here as does very light MelodicDeathMetal. Grunge and post-grunge occasionally creep into this level as well. You'll also find yet more viking/folk metal populating this region. Most GrooveMetal is here. In general, this is also pretty much as hard as you can get with significant radio or MTV play or if you want your song featured in VideoGame/GuitarHero or VideoGame/RockBand (Music/{{Slayer}} seems to be curiously immune to this however). AlternativeMetal or NuMetal at this level usually has a lot of influence from more aggressive metal genres. The heavier sides of ProgressiveMetal can be found here. Of the Big 4 of Thrash, Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax were often found here, at least when they were still unambiguously thrash. This is also the point where pure {{Industrial}} and IndustrialMetal begin to sound almost indistinguishable from one another. {[Grunge}} {{Grunge}} rarely hits this level, and when it does its usually straight up Hardcore or DoomMetal. (see Alice in Chains' songs at this level).
22nd Mar '17 12:01:08 AM LooneyCartoons
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# Rock sans intensifier. A bit faster/louder/darker than 2, but still pretty soft. The heaviest soft rock and the softest hard rock (most hard rock ballads are found here) and dance-punk can both be found here. PopPunk begins at this level. Most of the songs in this level come across as more "radio-friendly/MTV-friendly" than those on higher levels. Cinematic music/film score starts at this level. Most "danceable" ElectronicMusic (especially the lighter end of {{Eurobeat}}, [[HardcoreTechno happy hardcore]] and {{trance}}) end up at this level. This is also the home level for {{Synthpop}}, [[NewWaveMusic New Wave]], and {{Disco}}.

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# Rock sans intensifier. A bit faster/louder/darker than 2, but still pretty soft. The heaviest soft rock and the softest hard rock (most [[note]]most hard rock ballads are found here) here.[[/note]] and dance-punk can both be found here. PopPunk begins at this level. Most of the songs in this level come across as more "radio-friendly/MTV-friendly" than those on higher levels. Cinematic music/film score starts at this level. Most "danceable" ElectronicMusic (especially the lighter end of {{Eurobeat}}, [[HardcoreTechno happy hardcore]] and {{trance}}) end up at this level. This is also the home level for {{Synthpop}}, [[NewWaveMusic New Wave]], and {{Disco}}.
26th Feb '17 8:36:30 AM LooneyCartoons
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# Rock sans intensifier. A bit faster/louder/darker than 2, but still pretty soft. The heaviest soft rock and the softest hard rock and dance-punk can both be found here. PopPunk begins at this level. Most of the songs in this level come across as more "radio-friendly/MTV-friendly" than those on higher levels. Cinematic music/film score starts at this level. Most "danceable" ElectronicMusic (especially the lighter end of {{Eurobeat}}, [[HardcoreTechno happy hardcore]] and {{trance}}) end up at this level. This is also the home level for {{Synthpop}}, [[NewWaveMusic New Wave]], and {{Disco}}.

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# Rock sans intensifier. A bit faster/louder/darker than 2, but still pretty soft. The heaviest soft rock and the softest hard rock (most hard rock ballads are found here) and dance-punk can both be found here. PopPunk begins at this level. Most of the songs in this level come across as more "radio-friendly/MTV-friendly" than those on higher levels. Cinematic music/film score starts at this level. Most "danceable" ElectronicMusic (especially the lighter end of {{Eurobeat}}, [[HardcoreTechno happy hardcore]] and {{trance}}) end up at this level. This is also the home level for {{Synthpop}}, [[NewWaveMusic New Wave]], and {{Disco}}.
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