History Main / MisplacedVegetation

16th Jan '18 7:55:46 AM Sharlee
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** Likewise, the common dandelion isn't native to North America. It was introduced by European settlers as a salad green and medicinal herb, and has gone on to become the single most recognizable lawn-and-garden weed on the continent. There ''are'' native species in the same genus, but ironically they're mostly being driven extinct by competition from the invasive sort and/or by gardeners' indiscriminate attempts to eradicate anything that ''looks'' like a dandelion.
3rd Jan '18 8:13:31 AM TheDragonDemands
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**...While rarely and inconsistently mentioned, there are undeniable examples of New World Crops in Westeros. In the second novel there's a scene in which Arya is in the riverlands and clearly eating roasted maize-corn on the cob, in its own ears. Repeated mention is also made of Dornish hot peppers - and if you thought they might just be pepper spices, reference is made to them being ''stuffed'', so they're clearly bell peppers, a New World Crop.
30th Nov '17 12:52:48 PM word_smuggler
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** In one episode of Deep Space Nine, Dr. Bashir [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] it outright, by wondering why there's so much chlorophyll in the cells of plants on a planet orbiting a red giant.
29th Nov '17 11:45:21 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The vegetation in Skyrim is certainly very tropical for what is supposed to be Scandinavia. You'll see Boston ferns everywhere (Florida and the Caribbean), Orchids growing in the ground (Philippines, they're supposed to be growing in trees), Cryptanthus (Brazil), Norfolk Island pines (New Zealand) Potatoes and tomatoes (South America) and even variegated Algerian ivy (a modern garden cultivar that was certainly not available to the Scandinavians in the Middle Ages). Unless the Nords are secretly living in the tropics, none of these plants should be growing in Skyrim.

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* ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': The vegetation ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** Tamriel, primarily a MedievalEuropeanFantasy setting, includes real-life plants from Europe, Africa, and the Americas all
in one continent. For example, despite otherwise being closer to a North African desert, Hammerfell includes [[AllDesertsHaveCacti cacti]]. Further, poisonous nightshades (Europe) can be found growing among edible "new world" plants like potatoes, tomatoes, and corn.
** Many plant species are also found growing outside of their typical climates. In the [[GrimUpNorth cold northern clime]] of
Skyrim is certainly very tropical for what is supposed to be Scandinavia. You'll see alone, one can find Boston ferns everywhere Ferns (Florida and the Caribbean), Orchids growing in the ground (Philippines, they're supposed to be growing and they grow in trees), ''trees''), Cryptanthus (Brazil), Norfolk Island pines Pines (New Zealand) Potatoes and tomatoes (South America) Zealand), and even variegated Algerian ivy Ivy (a modern garden cultivar that was certainly not available to the Scandinavians in the Middle Ages). Unless the Nords are secretly living Likewise, [[FantasticDrug Moon Sugar]], a FantasticDrug similar in appearance and effect to real-world cocaine, is primarily grown in the tropics, none desert environment of these Elsweyr. Real life Coca plants should be growing are almost entirely grown in Skyrim.low-altitude South American jungle environments.
30th Sep '17 11:50:41 AM Prfnoff
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* ''Franchise/{{Tintin}} in the Congo'' had rubber trees, native to South America, growing wild in Africa. Could possibly be [[FanWank justified post-hoc]] if they're not not truly wild, but simply feral. There are commercial rubber plantations in Africa. Also counts as EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, as the author infamously didn't do any research for the rest of this volume.
* Roman legionaries are seen peeling potatoes as part of their chores in Comicbook/{{Asterix}}, some 1700 years before their discovery by the western world. Justified by RuleOfFunny, as AnachronismStew is nearly the entire point.

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* ''Franchise/{{Tintin}} in the Congo'' had rubber trees, native to South America, growing wild in Africa. Could possibly be [[FanWank justified post-hoc]] if they're not not truly wild, but simply feral. There are commercial rubber plantations in Africa. Also counts as EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, as the author infamously didn't do any research for the rest of this volume.
* Roman legionaries are seen peeling potatoes PeelingPotatoes as part of their chores in Comicbook/{{Asterix}}, some 1700 years before their discovery by the western world. Justified by RuleOfFunny, as AnachronismStew is nearly the entire point.



* Disney's ''Disney/TheJungleBook'': if you look very closely during the Elephant Patrol's first appearance in the film, you can actually see acacia trees in the background. Acacias grow in very dry deserts and scrubland, not jungles. In the same movie, Baloo explains to Mowgli in a song how to pick the fruit of the prickly pear... which is a species of cactus from the arid zones of America.

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* Disney's ''Disney/TheJungleBook'': if you look very closely during the Elephant Patrol's first appearance in the film, you can actually see acacia trees in the background. Acacias grow in very dry deserts and scrubland, not jungles. In the same movie, Baloo explains to Mowgli in a song how to pick the fruit of the prickly pear... which is a species of cactus from the arid zones of America.America (though it's known to become an invasive species elsewhere, especially in Australia).
9th Sep '17 4:29:38 AM AndIntroducingALeg
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* In ''Last Chance to See'', Douglas Adams notes that privet, that plant synonymous with dull suburban hedgerows, has become an absolute menace on islands where European settlers wanted to mark their borders with something that reminded them of home.
30th Aug '17 11:52:53 AM TheDragonDemands
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* {{Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire}} is a bit of a different situation from Tolkien, in that the author stated it ''is not'' supposed to be our real-life world in the distant past or future, just an alternate Fantasy world - albeit one loosely inspired by the real Middle Ages. Westeros is essentially a continent-sized version of the British Isles (roughly the size of South America), Essos is pseudo-Eurasia, Sothoryos is pseudo-Africa, etc. Generally, New World Crops have never been mentioned: tobacco, potatoes, tomatoes, maize-corn, rubber. There are one or two mentions of "pumpkins" or "turkeys" in the entire, Door Stopper length novel series, but these might just be random errors. Instead of tobacco, they have a loose analogue called "sourleaf", though it's not smoked, only chewed (much like chewing tobacco). Some readers might be confused that Martin uses the term "corn", though apparently much like Tolkien he's just using it in the general sense of "grain".
30th Aug '17 11:46:10 AM TheDragonDemands
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This can come up frequently in Fantasy works set in pseudo-Medieval Europe: it's actually anachronistic for them to have New World crops like tobacco, potatoes, tomatoes, maize-corn, etc. For that matter, ''rubber'' shouldn't exist in such worlds (rubber trees have been exported around the world, but they're native to South America). Different Fantasy series handle this different ways - with some just embracing the anachronism.
30th Aug '17 11:42:57 AM TheDragonDemands
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* {{Literature/TheLordOftheRings}}: J.R.R. Tolkien stated that Middle-earth is supposed to actually ''be'' our real world, thousands of years ago in some lost historical era (as opposed to a pure fantasy construction), and the parts were actually see more or less turned into Europe many eons later. Tolkien was also painfully aware, however, that it would be anachronistic for New World crops to exist in a pseudo-medieval setting like this (particularly one actually meant to be in the real past). This infamously led Tolkien to come up with an elaborate explanation for how the Hobbits can still smoke tobacco: the Numenorean explorers ''brought it'' to Middle-earth from some other continent (i.e. the ancient analogue of the Americas or something). Potatoes also exist in Middle-earth, and presumably were brought to it in the same fashion.
**As an expert linguist, Tolkien also thought it was anachronistic to have characters use the real-life ''words'' for these plants, which are of Native American origin (someone in the distant past of Europe wouldn't call it "tobacco"). This is why he came up with calling it "pipe-weed". He also has characters refer to "taters" most often (except for the one memorable scene when Samwell spells out that by "taters" he means "po-tay-toes"). Tolkien went so far as to even remove references to "tomatoes" from later editions of ''The Hobbit'' after the first publication edition.
**There are some references to "corn" in Tolkien's works, but apparently he's using it very specifically in the more old-fashioned sense of "grain" in general ("corn" and "grain" used to be synonyms), not referring to "maize-corn" like the Maya would eat in the Americas.
11th Jul '17 8:58:17 PM karstovich2
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** Similarly, tomatoes. Tomatoes originated in South America; nowadays Italian cuisine puts tomatoes in a ''lot''.

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** Similarly, tomatoes. Tomatoes originated in South America; nowadays America. Today, Italian cuisine puts tomatoes in a ''lot''.''lot''--and even then, the Italians don't use tomato as much as some of the other Mediterraneans (the Spaniards, Turks, and Egyptians come to mind for putting tomatoes in anything they can think of).
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