History Main / MiseryPoker

22nd Apr '17 12:32:34 PM rjd1922
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* [[http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=740 This forum post]] all the way, in which the posters find new ways to feel oppressed. [[PoesLaw No, it's not a joke]].

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* [[http://atheismplus.[[https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20160313075345/http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=740 This forum post]] all the way, in which the posters find new ways to feel oppressed. [[PoesLaw No, it's not a joke]].



* A very common game on the Internet. ({{Website/Tumblr}} and Reddit are ''[[MemeticMutation memetically]]'' famous for this.) Complain about how hard of a day you had, and then someone will respond that you have ''far'' more privilege than they do and they have it worse, only to get ''another'' person with ''less'' privilege saying that ''they'' have it worse, then it keeps going on and on until PoesLaw kicks in.

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* A very common game on the Internet. ({{Website/Tumblr}} and Reddit Website/{{Reddit}} are ''[[MemeticMutation memetically]]'' famous for this.) Complain about how hard of a day you had, and then someone will respond that you have ''far'' more privilege than they do and they have it worse, only to get ''another'' person with ''less'' privilege saying that ''they'' have it worse, then it keeps going on and on until PoesLaw kicks in.
21st Apr '17 2:05:54 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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->''"Now if you haven't been through it yourself, you may not be aware that {{coming out story}} is something of a competitive sport amongst gay people. It's like a ''Top Trumps'' of Who's Had the Worst Time. 'Oh, you got shot in the head? You win!'"''

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->''"Now if you haven't been through it yourself, you may not be aware that {{coming coming out story}} story is something of a competitive sport amongst gay people. It's like a ''Top Trumps'' of Who's Had the Worst Time. 'Oh, you got shot in the head? You win!'"''
19th Apr '17 1:56:01 AM Vir
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On the other extreme, this can be used for comedy... such as, for example, a character [[ItsAllAboutMe loudly complaining about their bad manicure as if it's the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone ever]] while someone else in the background is being chased by enraged rhinos. In such cases, it's clear that the viewer is supposed to see their worries as trivial, and usually we will -- unless FridgeLogic kicks in.

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On the other extreme, this can be used for comedy... such as, for example, a character [[ItsAllAboutMe loudly complaining about their bad manicure as if it's the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone ever]] [[FunnyBackgroundEvent while someone else in the background is being chased by enraged rhinos.rhinos]]. In such cases, it's clear that the viewer is supposed to see their worries as trivial, and usually we will -- unless FridgeLogic kicks in.
30th Mar '17 4:25:13 AM DoctorNemesis
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Sometimes this is a pretty logical trope -- a parking ticket isn't nice, but a bereavement is on a totally different level of grief altogether. At other times, though, the viewer might note that the character with the "lesser" gripe has every right to be downhearted -- for example, a character whose illness is serious, but not as serious as someone else's -- and may accuse the supporting cast of having NoSympathy when they fail to acknowledge this. [[AppealToWorseProblems Falsely setting up problems in competition]] seems to imply that only the biggest problem can be dealt with, whatever the feasibility issues or nature of the lesser one. At its worst, a character who consistently has severe problems but is always one-upped by different people who once or a few times have a worse problem, leaving their problems totally ignored, could [[BewareTheNiceOnes suddenly explode in rage over time from being subjected to this far too often]]. Even an IronButtMonkey has their limits.

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Sometimes this is a pretty logical trope -- a parking ticket isn't nice, but a bereavement is on a totally different level of grief altogether. At other times, though, the viewer might note that the character with the "lesser" gripe has every right to be downhearted -- for example, a character whose illness is serious, but not as serious as someone else's -- and may accuse the supporting cast of having NoSympathy when they fail to acknowledge this. [[AppealToWorseProblems Falsely setting up problems in competition]] seems to imply that only the biggest problem can be dealt with, whatever the feasibility issues or nature of the lesser one. At its worst, a character who consistently has severe problems but is always one-upped by different people who once or a few times have a worse problem, leaving their problems totally ignored, could [[BewareTheNiceOnes suddenly explode in rage over time from being subjected to this far too often]]. Even an IronButtMonkey has their limits.
limits. And, of course, even a minor problem can be made easier to cope with or slightly more tolerable if you know that the people around you have some sympathy; the character who got the parking ticket might not be demanding that everyone drop what they're doing and focus on them to the exclusion of the character dying from cancer, they might just be looking for a few kind words, which doesn't seem entirely unreasonable.
2nd Mar '17 8:28:24 PM LadyNorbert
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-->'''Juleka''': [[SuddenlyShouting Like they’ve done to both of us]]. (''long {{beat}}'') [[CallBack This…this isn’t the Crappy Life Olympics,]] Chloe.

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-->'''Juleka''': [[SuddenlyShouting Like they’ve done to both of us]]. (''long {{beat}}'') [[CallBack This…this This... this isn’t the Crappy Life Olympics,]] Chloe.Chloe.
* The Heralds of Andraste indulge in a playful version of this before the Halamshiral ball, in ''[[Fanfic/TwiceUponAnAge All This Sh*t is Twice as Weird]]''. Mahanon has to go explore the castle and face down a would-be assassin, plus who knows how many Venatori and other assorted deadly foes... but Victoria has to smile and make pleasant conversation with ''Orlesians''.



-->'''Luther''': You know high school is alot like prison; bad food, high fences, sex you want you ain't getting, sex you getting, you don't want. I've seen terrible things...\\
'''Dizzy''': Yesterday, an 80 year old librarian broke my penis.\\
'''Luther''':...You win.

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-->'''Luther''': You know high school is alot a lot like prison; bad food, high fences, sex you want you ain't getting, sex you getting, getting you don't want. I've seen terrible things...\\
'''Dizzy''': Yesterday, an 80 year old 80-year-old librarian broke my penis.\\
'''Luther''':...'''Luther''': ...You win.



* The Penguin in ''Film/BatmanReturns'' gets by mocking everyone else for their issues, obviously considering them trivial compared to his own, like telling to Catwoman:

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* The Penguin in ''Film/BatmanReturns'' gets by mocking everyone else for their issues, obviously considering them trivial compared to his own, like telling to Catwoman:



and to Batman later

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and Later, to Batman laterBatman:



* Forms rather large (but unspoken) part of the Cancer Support Group experience in ''Literature/TheFaultInOurStars''. People with more serious cancers tend to get more respect automatically, and people with "lesser" forms of cancer (like appendicial cancer) are somewhat looked down upon.

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* Forms a rather large (but unspoken) part of the Cancer Support Group experience in ''Literature/TheFaultInOurStars''. People with more serious cancers tend to get more respect automatically, and people with "lesser" forms of cancer (like appendicial appendicidal cancer) are somewhat looked down upon.



* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' featured a scene in which Penny expresses disbelief that Leonard, Howard, and Raj haven't gone fishing with their fathers before. Leonard and Raj both express misery that their fathers were always busy with their scientific jobs, and then Howard mentions that his "father son bonding" was spent waiting for his dad to come home. Leonard even says, "Okay, Howard wins." And that's not the only time Howard has pulled the "My dad left" card to trump someone else's complaints.

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* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' featured a scene in which Penny expresses disbelief that Leonard, Howard, and Raj haven't gone fishing with their fathers before. Leonard and Raj both express misery that their fathers were always busy with their scientific jobs, and then Howard mentions that his "father son "father-son bonding" time was spent waiting for his dad to come home. Leonard even says, "Okay, Howard wins." And that's not the only time Howard has pulled the "My dad left" card to trump someone else's complaints.
7th Feb '17 11:14:21 PM ChrisX
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* [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment Touya and Calvina]] get into this in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers]]''. Calvina had the facility she was employed with destroyed, with all of the friends she made and students she taught dying in the process and, worse, she discovers that one of her students and her boyfriend are still alive, only to find that both of them are members of the FURY, with the former going AxCrazy, and the latter being believed to be the one responsible for the attack on the earlier mentioned facility[[note]]He was in [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment Judgment]], but not in this game, he only showed up after the attack[[/note]]. Meanwhile, after years of living in isolation due to his mother's death and father's absence, Touya finally meets his dad again, only to see him just getting out of a sticky situation piloting the Granteed and trying to protect two girls, learn that he's a high ranking soldier of the FURY, reluctantly join him to survive the ongoing attacks of the FURY, and then see him die ''right in front of his eyes'', leaving Touya only his father's legacy as a Knight of the FURY to try to carry on. Though the both of them do have legitimate reasons to be upset, they tend to argue over who has it worse throughout the game.
%%* Aspects of the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' fandumb do tend to be unsympathetic towards characters who try to seek help for their problems instead of bottling all the pain up inside, saying that other characters who do bottle it up have faced far worse. The exemplar used for this is Ragna the Bloodedge, the main character who is oft the CosmicPlaything of the plot, the main character of the main story that everyone will be exposed of, and pretty much ''the'' golden standard by the fandumb on how to deal with grief, ignoring that not everyone is privy to his problems and yet judged as if they should be, let alone that people grieve or deal with pain in other manners. For instance, the character Litchi Faye-Ling has a GuiltComplex about not being able to save her friend, and ended up having to make the decision of joining the villains while not liking it and enduring her own distaste of them, but fandom tends to say that it's nothing compared to what Ragna went through and in turn, tends to paint her as an unsympathetic character (or being considered evil for daring to side with the bad guys) for not living up to the standard. There are also problems with bottling it all up as well, especially if there's no relief in sight; one runner-up Makoto outright stated that she hated having to [[JerkassFacade act like a bitch to cope with racism]], while other runner-up Carl changed into a much colder individual after learning [[HumanResources what Relius did to his sister Ada]] and outright frightened every relative not named Relius. If the 'standard' isn't Ragna, then the standard would be Noel Vermillion, pretty much [[TheWoobie the reigning Queen of Woobies]] in the game.

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* [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment Touya and Calvina]] get into this in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers]]''.Dwellers]]'' at their first meeting. Calvina had the facility she was employed with destroyed, with all of the friends she made and students she taught dying in the process and, worse, she discovers that one of her students and her boyfriend are still alive, only to find that both of them are members of the FURY, with the former going AxCrazy, and the latter being believed to be the one responsible for the attack on the earlier mentioned facility[[note]]He was in [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment Judgment]], but not in this game, he only showed up after the attack[[/note]]. Meanwhile, after years of living in isolation due to his mother's death and father's absence, Touya finally meets his dad again, only to see him just getting out of a sticky situation piloting the Granteed and trying to protect two girls, learn that he's a high ranking soldier of the FURY, reluctantly join him to survive the ongoing attacks of the FURY, and then see him die ''right in front of his eyes'', leaving Touya only his father's legacy as a Knight of the FURY to try to carry on. Though the both of them They don't do have legitimate reasons to be upset, they tend to argue over who has it worse throughout the game.
%%* Aspects of the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' fandumb do tend to be unsympathetic towards characters who try to seek help for their problems instead of bottling all the pain up inside, saying
that other characters who do bottle it up have faced far worse. The exemplar used for this is Ragna in the Bloodedge, the main character who is oft the CosmicPlaything of the plot, the main character of the main story that everyone will be exposed of, and pretty much ''the'' golden standard by the fandumb on how to deal with grief, ignoring that not everyone is privy to his problems and yet judged as if they should be, let alone that people grieve or deal with pain in other manners. For instance, the character Litchi Faye-Ling has a GuiltComplex about not being able to save her friend, and ended up having to make the decision of joining the villains while not liking it and enduring her own distaste of them, but fandom tends to say that future meetings, it's nothing compared to what Ragna went through mostly for different issues, and in turn, tends to paint her as an unsympathetic character (or being considered evil for daring to side with the bad guys) for not living up end, they're on good terms thanks to the standard. There are also problems with bottling it all up as well, especially if there's no relief in sight; one runner-up Makoto outright stated that she hated both sides having to [[JerkassFacade act like a bitch to cope with racism]], while other runner-up Carl changed into a much colder individual after learning [[HumanResources what Relius did to his sister Ada]] and outright frightened every relative not named Relius. If the 'standard' isn't Ragna, then the standard would be Noel Vermillion, pretty much [[TheWoobie the reigning Queen of Woobies]] in the game.CharacterDevelopment.
21st Dec '16 11:26:31 AM FullmetalHeart20
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* Happens between generations every single time. Nobody's complained to a significantly older person without hearing "back in my day..." at least once.
10th Dec '16 5:55:42 PM Kartoonkid95
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* ''Series/TheGeorgeLopezShow'': In "George to the Third Power", George argues with max's dentist over whose childhood was worse.
-->'''Dentist:''' My mom locked me in the closet for a day and a half just so she could go and party!
-->'''George:''' Oh yeah? Well, my neighbor touched me inappropriately, '''in my no-nos.'''
-->'''Angie:''' That never happened.
-->'''George:''' ''(to Angie)'' Quiet. I'm in it to win it.
9th Dec '16 4:56:13 PM KingLyger
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* Chris Titus as a line in Norman Rockwell is Bleeding
--> I bet a guy I was more screwed up than he was,then he raped me. So I Tipped him.

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\n* Chris Titus as a line Creator/ChristopherTitus referenced this in Norman his special ''Norman Rockwell is Bleeding
Bleeding''.
--> I bet a guy I was more screwed up than he was,then was. And he raped me. So I Tipped him.tipped him. I'm very competitive.
7th Dec '16 5:20:01 PM MarkLungo
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->''"Now if you haven't been through it yourself, you may not be aware that coming out story is something of a competitive sport amongst gay people. It's like a ''Top Trumps'' of Who's Had the Worst Time. 'Oh, you got shot in the head? You win!'"''

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->''"Now if you haven't been through it yourself, you may not be aware that coming {{coming out story story}} is something of a competitive sport amongst gay people. It's like a ''Top Trumps'' of Who's Had the Worst Time. 'Oh, you got shot in the head? You win!'"''
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