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17th Jul '17 2:58:09 AM Doug86
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** ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'': Negasonic Teenage Warhead asks her mentor Colossus what the perks of being with the {{X-Men}} are, considering [[DoomMagnet the mansion gets completely destroyed every couple of years]]. Colossus then cheerfully responds that "House blowing up builds character."

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** ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'': Negasonic Teenage Warhead asks her mentor Colossus what the perks of being with the {{X-Men}} Franchise/XMen are, considering [[DoomMagnet the mansion gets completely destroyed every couple of years]]. Colossus then cheerfully responds that "House blowing up builds character."
9th Jul '17 1:28:17 PM nombretomado
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* On ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'', Johnny's dad explains why he's forcing Johnny to use his old WorldWarII issue backpack which put Johnny at the bottom of the [[JuniorHigh middle school]] [[PopularityFoodChain food chain]]:

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* On ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyTest'', Johnny's dad explains why he's forcing Johnny to use his old WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII issue backpack which put Johnny at the bottom of the [[JuniorHigh middle school]] [[PopularityFoodChain food chain]]:
30th May '17 6:33:21 AM matruz
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** ''Even if you do something to overcome it'', there are ''still'' good chances of developing post-traumatic stress disorder ([[http://bullyonline.org/old/stress/ptsd.htm PTSD]]). This trope is in the RealLife more or less crapshoot: it can build character, it may break you up - or do both.

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** ''Even if you do something to overcome it'', if the trauma is strong enough there are ''still'' good chances of developing post-traumatic stress disorder ([[http://bullyonline.org/old/stress/ptsd.htm PTSD]]). This trope is in the RealLife more or less crapshoot: it can build character, it may break you up - or do both.
26th May '17 6:20:07 AM Vovka
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** Though other studies imply this is more correlation than causation. Children who showed a greater ability to put off instant gratification for later rewards were found to generally be more successful in life than those who couldn't. They were willing to suffer for a greater reward because they already had the willpower and not because they had to gain this ability through suffering.
18th May '17 3:15:59 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* This is also averted with a ShellShockedVeteran, especially in the first World War, as the heavy artillery barrages left soldiers traumatized and not "strong willed heroes". The Seale Hayne Hospital in Devon, England treated veterans with shell shock and tried to return them to a semblance of previous life [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jll9_EiyA going from them shambling around mindlessly in a room to a functioning member of society.]]
4th May '17 1:00:01 AM SunriseWarrior
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** In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham as descends into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, and manages to destroy them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life in the end.]]

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** In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham as it descends into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, and manages to destroy them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life in the end.]]
23rd Apr '17 3:46:00 AM Scabbard
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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Dreamscaperers", Stan claims the reason he's so rough on Dipper is because he's trying to toughen him up, citing the boxing lessons his own dad made him take as a child as an example. Unfortunately, this trope is Deconstructed; Because Stan never showed Dipper much affection, it only took one sentence out of context to convince Dipper that Stan hated him.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Dreamscaperers", Stan claims the reason he's so rough on Dipper is because he's trying to toughen him up, citing the boxing lessons his own dad made him take as a child as an example. Unfortunately, this trope is Deconstructed; Because deconstructed: because Stan never showed Dipper much affection, affection on top being so hard on him and only him, it only took one sentence out of context to convince Dipper that Stan hated him.
23rd Apr '17 3:45:04 AM Scabbard
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** In ''WesternAnimation/LegendofKorra''[[spoiler: Korra makes a similar statement to Tenzin after she managed to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath talk Kuvira down]], saying that her suffering made her more compassionate]].

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** In ''WesternAnimation/LegendofKorra''[[spoiler: Korra ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendofKorra'' [[spoiler:Korra makes a similar statement to Tenzin after she managed to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath talk Kuvira down]], saying that her suffering made her more compassionate]].
23rd Apr '17 3:44:37 AM Scabbard
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** [[spoiler: Korra makes a similar statement to Tenzin after she managed to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath talk Kuvira down]], saying that her suffering made her more compassionate]].

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** [[spoiler: In ''WesternAnimation/LegendofKorra''[[spoiler: Korra makes a similar statement to Tenzin after she managed to [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath talk Kuvira down]], saying that her suffering made her more compassionate]].
4th Apr '17 11:06:35 AM DustSnitch
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* A couple of deleted scenes in ''Film/BruceAlmighty'' ended up expanding on the consequences of Bruce granting the wishes of every person who prays to him, with God showing Bruce a couple of the people whose prayers he answered and how, though he's made them happy now, they'll actually be worse off in the long run.
-->'''God''': Triumph is born out of struggle, faith is the alchemist. If you want pictures like these, you'll need to use some dark colors.
* A recurring theme in ''Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982''; the years of physical and emotional hardship shape Conan into the powerhouse he becomes as an adult.
* A central theme throughout ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' is Bruce overcoming increasing adversity and hardship to become stronger. Interestingly it also shows a darker side to this trope in that many of the ''villains'' he faces have also been forged by past tragedy and suffering.
** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' has Bruce endure the TrainingFromHell in order to become Batman. All fueled by the death of his parents and personal vengeance denied to him. His mentor Ducard was similarly motivated by the loss of the woman he loved [[spoiler:though he chose a more [[WellIntentionedExtremist extreme path]]]].
** In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham as descends into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, and manages to destroy them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life in the end.]]
* ''A Gentle Art'':
-->'''Lance''': Pain, they say, builds character... and you, my dear, are about to have more character than you know what to do with.



* ''Motorama'': A boy with an injured eye will lose his sight if it isn't operated on.
-->'''Darrell''': I guess he'll have to lose his sight. [snip] You see, loss builds character.

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* ''Motorama'': A boy with an injured eye will lose his sight if In the movie version of ''Film/{{Holes}}'', the staff at Camp Green Lake claim the juvenile delinquents are forced to dig holes because it isn't operated on.
-->'''Darrell''': I guess he'll have to lose his sight. [snip] You see, loss
builds character.character. The real reason is [[spoiler:there's a fortune buried somewhere in the dried up lake bed and camp was created to try to find it.]]
* Frank in ''Film/LittleMissSunshine'' tries to teach this to Dwayne, relating the story of Marcel Proust's coming of age and realizing that his difficult and painful teenage years "were the best years of his life, because they made him who he was."
* Film/MajorPayne did this deliberately to mold his students into a cohesive unit. The Guidance Councilor thinks this was an incredibly cynical plan. But by God, it ''worked!'' This became less "making them suffer to be better," which he himself went through, but "making them suffer together equally, and have a shared target of ire," a very common tactic among Drill Instructors, Sports coaches, etc. And yes, it is damned effective if done right.
* ''Film/TheMatrix'': Agent Smith believes this to be humanity's [[PlanetOfHats hat]], citing humanity's refusal to accept the first utopic Matrix as real. Something of an {{inversion}}; he uses this, not as evidence that suffering is good and necessary, but that HumansAreFlawed for needing it.
-->"Some believed that we lacked the programming language to design your 'perfect world,' but I believe that human beings as a species define their existence through ''misery and suffering.''"
* A deleted scene in ''Film/RockyBalboa'' has Rocky talking about how as a kid he would stare into streetlights without blinking and squeeze a ball in his hand until it was unbearably painful. He did this to make himself used to being uncomfortable and tolerate pain better. It paid off ''big time''.



* ''A Gentle Art'':
-->'''Lance''': Pain, they say, builds character... and you, my dear, are about to have more character than you know what to do with.
* Film/MajorPayne did this deliberately to mold his students into a cohesive unit. The Guidance Councilor thinks this was an incredibly cynical plan. But by God, it ''worked!'' This became less "making them suffer to be better," which he himself went through, but "making them suffer together equally, and have a shared target of ire," a very common tactic among Drill Instructors, Sports coaches, etc. And yes, it is damned effective if done right.
* ''Film/TheMatrix'': Agent Smith believes this to be humanity's [[PlanetOfHats hat]], citing humanity's refusal to accept the first utopic Matrix as real. Something of an {{inversion}}; he uses this, not as evidence that suffering is good and necessary, but that HumansAreFlawed for needing it.
-->"Some believed that we lacked the programming language to design your 'perfect world,' but I believe that human beings as a species define their existence through ''misery and suffering.''"
* Invoked by Evilene in ''Film/TheWiz'':
-->''"Suffering is food for the soul. NOW SUFFER!"''



* A central theme throughout ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' is Bruce overcoming increasing adversity and hardship to become stronger. Interestingly it also shows a darker side to this trope in that many of the ''villains'' he faces have also been forged by past tragedy and suffering.
** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' has Bruce endure the TrainingFromHell in order to become Batman. All fueled by the death of his parents and personal vengeance denied to him. His mentor Ducard was similarly motivated by the loss of the woman he loved [[spoiler:though he chose a more [[WellIntentionedExtremist extreme path]]]].
** In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham as descends into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, and manages to destroy them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life in the end.]]
* In the movie version of ''Film/{{Holes}}'', the staff at Camp Green Lake claim the juvenile delinquents are forced to dig holes because it builds character. The real reason is [[spoiler:there's a fortune buried somewhere in the dried up lake bed and camp was created to try to find it.]]
* A couple of deleted scenes in ''Film/BruceAlmighty'' ended up expanding on the consequences of Bruce granting the wishes of every person who prays to him, with God showing Bruce a couple of the people whose prayers he answered and how, though he's made them happy now, they'll actually be worse off in the long run.
-->'''God''': Triumph is born out of struggle, faith is the alchemist. If you want pictures like these, you'll need to use some dark colors.
* A deleted scene in ''Film/RockyBalboa'' has Rocky talking about how as a kid he would stare into streetlights without blinking and squeeze a ball in his hand until it was unbearably painful. He did this to make himself used to being uncomfortable and tolerate pain better. It paid off ''big time''.
* Frank in ''Film/LittleMissSunshine'' tries to teach this to Dwayne, relating the story of Marcel Proust's coming of age and realizing that his difficult and painful teenage years "were the best years of his life, because they made him who he was."
* A recurring theme in ''Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982''; the years of physical and emotional hardship shape Conan into the powerhouse he becomes as an adult.

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* A central theme throughout ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' is Bruce overcoming increasing adversity ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'': Fletcher’s “Good Job” speech can be summed up as 'humiliation and hardship to become stronger. Interestingly it also shows a darker side to this trope in that many of the ''villains'' he faces have also been forged by past tragedy self-loathing drive self-improvement, while undeserved praise breeds complacency and suffering.
** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' has Bruce endure the TrainingFromHell in order to become Batman. All fueled by the death of his parents and personal vengeance denied to him. His mentor Ducard was similarly motivated by the loss of the woman he loved [[spoiler:though he chose a more [[WellIntentionedExtremist extreme path]]]].
** In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce
mediocrity'. This becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] as descends Fletcher's regimen does improve his students proficiency as musicians, [[TookALevelInJerkass but turns them into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, cutthroat jerks at best,]] and manages to destroy renders them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life [[SanitySlippage psychologically broken]] at worst.
* Invoked by Evilene
in ''Film/TheWiz'':
-->''"Suffering is food for
the end.]]
* In the movie version of ''Film/{{Holes}}'', the staff at Camp Green Lake claim the juvenile delinquents are forced to dig holes because it builds character. The real reason is [[spoiler:there's a fortune buried somewhere in the dried up lake bed and camp was created to try to find it.]]
* A couple of deleted scenes in ''Film/BruceAlmighty'' ended up expanding on the consequences of Bruce granting the wishes of every person who prays to him, with God showing Bruce a couple of the people whose prayers he answered and how, though he's made them happy now, they'll actually be worse off in the long run.
-->'''God''': Triumph is born out of struggle, faith is the alchemist. If you want pictures like these, you'll need to use some dark colors.
* A deleted scene in ''Film/RockyBalboa'' has Rocky talking about how as a kid he would stare into streetlights without blinking and squeeze a ball in his hand until it was unbearably painful. He did this to make himself used to being uncomfortable and tolerate pain better. It paid off ''big time''.
* Frank in ''Film/LittleMissSunshine'' tries to teach this to Dwayne, relating the story of Marcel Proust's coming of age and realizing that his difficult and painful teenage years "were the best years of his life, because they made him who he was."
* A recurring theme in ''Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982''; the years of physical and emotional hardship shape Conan into the powerhouse he becomes as an adult.
soul. NOW SUFFER!"''



* ''Literature/TheBible'': The Apostle Paul discusses this in [[Literature/BookOfRomans Romans]] [[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%205:3-5&version=ESV5: 3-5]], where he notes that suffering builds endurance, endurance builds character, and character builds hope. Considering the time period, he and many of the other Christians that were physically tortured and martyred for their faith knew what they were talking about from many experiences they could count by the lashes on their backs.

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* ''Literature/TheBible'': The Apostle Paul discusses this in [[Literature/BookOfRomans Romans]] the Literature/BookOfRomans [[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%205:3-5&version=ESV5: 3-5]], where he notes that suffering builds endurance, endurance builds character, and character builds hope. Considering the time period, he and many of the other Christians that were physically tortured and martyred for their faith knew what they were talking about from many experiences they could count by the lashes on their backs.
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