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25th Apr '16 2:45:26 PM tomandtish
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**However, given that boxing is generally held to be responsible for his Parkinson's disease, YMMV on if the short-term gains he got in strength and endurance were worth the long-term consequences, much the same way bullying/hazing can cause significant mental health issues.
22nd Apr '16 12:17:12 AM KimiFW
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* ''Film/BatmanBegins'' has Bruce endure the TrainingFromHell in order to become Batman. All fueled by the death of his parents and personal vengeance denied to him. His mentor Ducard was similarly motivated by the loss of the woman he loved [[spoiler:though he chose a more [[WellIntentionedExtremist extreme path]]]].
* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham as descends into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, and manages to destroy them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life in the end.]]

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* ** ''Film/BatmanBegins'' has Bruce endure the TrainingFromHell in order to become Batman. All fueled by the death of his parents and personal vengeance denied to him. His mentor Ducard was similarly motivated by the loss of the woman he loved [[spoiler:though he chose a more [[WellIntentionedExtremist extreme path]]]].
* ** In ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', [[spoiler:Bruce becomes stronger from being forced to watch Gotham as descends into anarchy, while he's trapped in a Moroccan prison half a world away, unable to do anything about it.]] [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] when Miranda Tate says this, nearly verbatim, to Bruce Wayne. [[spoiler:Despite the baddies' familiarity with this trope, Bane in particular is utterly shocked when Wayne crawls out of the hole, and manages to destroy them both. It's also - possibly - why Wayne has recovered enough from his childhood trauma to finally quit angsting and enjoy life in the end.]]
8th Apr '16 4:36:20 PM SilentStranger
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** On the other hand [[spoiler:Casca most definitely did [[BreakTheCutie NOT]] become stronger from her misery.]] After all, this trope only works when applied moderately, not in [[TraumaCongaLine excessive doses.]] It says a lot about the [[DarkFantasy series]] and the [[CrapsackWorld setting]] that Guts' misery can be considered 'moderate'.

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** On the other hand [[spoiler:Casca most definitely did [[BreakTheCutie NOT]] become stronger from her misery.]] After all, this trope only works when applied moderately, not in [[TraumaCongaLine excessive doses.]] It says a lot about the [[DarkFantasy series]] and the [[CrapsackWorld setting]] that Guts' misery can be considered 'moderate'. Of course, Guts "advantage" was that his suffering didnt all happen at once, it came in succesively worse turns, so when the Eclipse happened, he was already tough enough that it didnt completely break him. [[spoiler: Caska, on the other hand, while she didnt have a super fun life, had it relatively easier than Guts. So, then the Eclipse happens, and...]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'', after the Eds wrongfully accuse Jonny of being a "serial toucher" and sentence him to rolling down a hill in a giant tire, Eddy justifies it by citing the trope. [[spoiler:And given his rather shocking history of abuse from his brother seen in TheMovie, he might just believe it.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'', after the Eds wrongfully accuse Jonny of being a "serial toucher" (the episode revolved around someone touching and taking the kids things. It later turned out the items were just misplaced) and sentence him to rolling down a hill in a giant tire, Eddy justifies it by citing the trope. [[spoiler:And given his rather shocking history of abuse from his brother seen in TheMovie, he might just believe it.]]



* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' Stan decided that Steve needed to be bullied for being [[ExtremeDoormat too passive]] and WeakWilled and took up the job himself. In response Steve found the guy who tormented his dad in school on Facebook and paid him to beat Stan up. A few seasons later, it turns out Stan's original lesson was right, and Steve not only gets beaten up by said bully, but also the new bully he had been dealing with.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' Stan decided that Steve needed to be bullied for being [[ExtremeDoormat too passive]] and WeakWilled and took up the job himself. In response Steve found the guy who tormented his dad in school on Facebook and paid him to beat Stan up. A few seasons later, it turns out Stan's original lesson was right, and Steve not only gets beaten up by said bully, but also the new bully he had been dealing with. Of course, it didnt adress the original problem that Steve is completely physically incapable of fighting, and no amount of bullying is going to solve that.



** After Homer has a massive heart attack and ends up in the hospital needing a quadruple bypass, he asks Dr Hibbert if "what doesnt kill him willl make him stronger". Hibbert points out that this only applies to ''mental'' suffering, and that Homer is currently as weak as a newborn kitten.



* In the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "The List", after Kyle becomes depressed because he's voted as the ugliest boy in school, he is visited by the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, who shows him that ugliness can be a [[BlessedWithSuck blessing in disguise]]: Ugly people have nothing handed to them and they must earn what they seek and thus will develop character, while [[BeautyIsBad beautiful people will have no redeeming character]] when their looks begin to fade.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "The List", after Kyle becomes depressed because he's voted as the ugliest boy in school, he is visited by the ghost of Abraham Lincoln, who shows him that ugliness can be a [[BlessedWithSuck blessing in disguise]]: Ugly people have nothing handed to them and they must earn what they seek and thus will develop character, while [[BeautyIsBad beautiful people will have no redeeming character]] when their looks begin to fade. Subverted at first as Kyle is angered at constantly being told what to feel and that he doesnt want to wait until he's an adult to be happy, but by the end of the episode, its revealed that the list had been faked as part of a plot by some of the girls to get free shoes, Kyle decides against reading the real list and finding out his true status on it, prefering to work on himself rather than base his self esteem on what other people think.
24th Mar '16 12:02:04 AM VVK
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A form of NecessaryFail. Also see IfItTastesBadItMustBeGoodForYou, TeachHimAnger, and WhenIWasYourAge. Please, do not mistake for Creator/StephenKing's [[{{Literature/Misery}} book]], that...goes a little too far from this. Related to TrainingFromHell, TheSpartanWay, BecauseYouCanCope and HadToBeSharp. Invoked by DrillSergeantNasty. See also EnemiesEqualsGreatness if having enemies or detractors makes a character strong.

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A form of NecessaryFail. Also see IfItTastesBadItMustBeGoodForYou, TeachHimAnger, and WhenIWasYourAge. Please, do not mistake for Creator/StephenKing's [[{{Literature/Misery}} book]], that... goes a little too far from this. Related to TrainingFromHell, TheSpartanWay, BecauseYouCanCope and HadToBeSharp. Invoked by DrillSergeantNasty. See also EnemiesEqualsGreatness if having enemies or detractors makes a character strong.
3rd Mar '16 9:47:16 AM Prfnoff
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** In an arc where [[JerkJock Moe]] successfully pressures Calvin to join the baseball team, Calvin's dad has the idea to help him practice, because "it builds character." He hits a grounder to Calvin, and it bounces up into his face, leaving him with a nosebleed and a desire to never play baseball again.

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** In an arc where [[JerkJock Moe]] successfully pressures Calvin to join the play baseball team, at recess, Calvin's dad has the idea to help him practice, because "it builds character." He hits a grounder to Calvin, and it bounces up into his face, leaving him with a nosebleed and a desire to never play baseball again.
3rd Mar '16 9:45:34 AM Prfnoff
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** In an arc where [[JerkJock Moe]] successfully pressures Calvin to join the baseball team, Calvin's dad has the idea to help him practice, because "it builds character." He hits a grounder to Calvin, and it bounces up into his face, leaving him with a nosebleed and a desire to never play baseball again.
--->'''Calvin''': All by charagder id drippig out by node!



-->'''Calvin's Dad''': [[ActuallyPrettyFunny OK, the voice was a little funny]], but that's still one darn sarcastic kid we're raising.

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-->'''Calvin's --->'''Calvin's Dad''': [[ActuallyPrettyFunny OK, the voice was a little funny]], but that's still one darn sarcastic kid we're raising.
25th Feb '16 7:32:39 PM ladyofprocrastination
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* In ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'', Negasonic Teenage Warhead asks his mentor Colossus what the perks of being with the {{X-Men}} are, considering [[DoomMagnet the mansion gets completely destroyed every couple of years]]. Colossus then cheerfully responds that "House blowing up builds character."

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* In ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'', Negasonic Teenage Warhead asks his her mentor Colossus what the perks of being with the {{X-Men}} are, considering [[DoomMagnet the mansion gets completely destroyed every couple of years]]. Colossus then cheerfully responds that "House blowing up builds character."
16th Feb '16 7:33:51 PM Peteman
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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' has Durkon applying this philosophy:

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' has ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
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** A subdued subversion: when the new High Priest of Thor offers Miko a seat while she writes a response to Durkon's request, Miko says that standing builds character. Then adds that she had been riding a horse for four days.
16th Feb '16 3:24:44 PM igordebraga
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* In the movie version of Film/{{Holes}}, the staff at Camp Green Lake claim the juvenile delinquents are forced to dig holes because it builds character. The real reason is [[spoiler:there's a fortune buried somewhere in the dried up lake bed and camp was created to try to find it.]]

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* In the movie version of Film/{{Holes}}, ''Film/{{Holes}}'', the staff at Camp Green Lake claim the juvenile delinquents are forced to dig holes because it builds character. The real reason is [[spoiler:there's a fortune buried somewhere in the dried up lake bed and camp was created to try to find it.]]


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* In ''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}'', Negasonic Teenage Warhead asks his mentor Colossus what the perks of being with the {{X-Men}} are, considering [[DoomMagnet the mansion gets completely destroyed every couple of years]]. Colossus then cheerfully responds that "House blowing up builds character."
3rd Feb '16 1:57:45 PM margdean56
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* This is implied in ''Literature/HarryPotter''; growing up with his abusive Aunt and Uncle gave him a lot more humility than his father had at the same age (although his father grew out his JerkJock phase eventually). However, within the books, the reason Harry is a HumbleHero is because the love and sacrifice of his GoodParents never left him, even when he was raised by the Dursleys as Dumbledore repeatedly clarifies. Dumbledore even notes that Harry is exceptional for being so kind and caring despite growing up the way he did.
** In the books, there are several instances where misery does not build character, the young Tom Riddle had a bad childhood, growing up without parents but he didn't become a HeartwarmingOrphan, he came TheSociopath. Severus Snape barely managed to escape this but even then he became a Dark wizard who struck out at the one person who was very nice to him and even after his HeelFaceTurn, remains a difficult, unpleasant, person haunted by his past. The theme of the books is choice and even in exceptionally difficult situations people have to make a choice to determine their character.

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* This is implied in ''Literature/HarryPotter''; growing up with his abusive Aunt and Uncle gave him a lot more humility than his father had at the same age (although his father grew out his JerkJock phase eventually). However, within the books, the reason Harry is a HumbleHero is because the love and sacrifice of his GoodParents never left him, even when he was raised by the Dursleys Dursleys, as Dumbledore repeatedly clarifies. Dumbledore even notes that Harry is exceptional for being so kind and caring despite growing up the way he did.
** In the books, there are several instances where misery does not build character, the character. The young Tom Riddle had a bad childhood, growing up without parents parents, but he didn't become a HeartwarmingOrphan, he came became TheSociopath. Severus Snape barely managed to escape this this, but even then he became a Dark wizard who struck out at the one person who was very nice to him and even after his HeelFaceTurn, remains a difficult, unpleasant, unpleasant person haunted by his past. The theme of the books is choice choice, and even in exceptionally difficult situations people have to make a choice to determine their character.



* A recurring theme in ''Literature/TallTaleAmerica'' is that people can only get to be heroes if they've got plenty of "rock-ribbed harships" to overcome. Heck, Pecos Bill intentionally makes the cowboy business extraordinarily difficult, just so the cowboys who manage to survive it will be the best there ever was.

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* A recurring theme in ''Literature/TallTaleAmerica'' is that people can only get to be heroes if they've got plenty of "rock-ribbed harships" hardships" to overcome. Heck, Pecos Bill intentionally makes the cowboy business extraordinarily difficult, just so the cowboys who manage to survive it will be the best there ever was.



* Vergere does this to Jacen BIG time in ''Literature/NewJediOrder'''s ''Traitor''. This is a fundamental part of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]] philosophy- the Vong believe that anything worth having or any lesson worth learning can ''only'' be purcashed through pain (stemming from their belief that the Creator made the universe by ritually sacrificing his own body). Vergere pciked this up from the Vong, though her definition of "character" turns out to differ rather substantially from theirs.
* In Bryan Miranda's ''Literature/TheJourneyToAtlantis'', all of the main characters jointly survive a shipwreck, only to be stranded on a deserted island and have to survive through various other hardships while on said island, forcing them to adapt and grow.
* In one of the sequels in the ''Literature/{{BriansSaga}}'', Brian clarifies that he did ''not'' beat Nature - Nature beat and kicked the stupid out of him until he learned his place in the forest.

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* Vergere does this to Jacen BIG time in ''Literature/NewJediOrder'''s ''Traitor''. This is a fundamental part of [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]] philosophy- the philosophy--the Vong believe that anything worth having or any lesson worth learning can ''only'' be purcashed purchased through pain (stemming from their belief that the Creator made the universe by ritually sacrificing his own body). Vergere pciked picked this up from the Vong, though her definition of "character" turns out to differ rather substantially from theirs.
* In Bryan Miranda's ''Literature/TheJourneyToAtlantis'', all of the main characters jointly survive a shipwreck, shipwreck only to be stranded on a deserted island island, and have to survive through various other hardships while on said island, forcing them to adapt and grow.
* In one of the sequels in the ''Literature/{{BriansSaga}}'', ''Literature/{{Brians Saga}}'', Brian clarifies that he did ''not'' beat Nature - -- Nature beat and kicked the stupid out of him until he learned his place in the forest.
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